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and a judge overrules the governor's mask mandate in schools. the question is how will it impact legal battles in other states? it's "way too early" for this. ♪♪ good morning and welcome to "way too early," the show that thanks our veterans for their service. i'm jonathan lemire on this thursday, november 11th, veterans day. we'll start with the news. the white house is addressing economic worries after a report yesterday showed a 6.2% in consumer prices. a statement from president biden read this -- i have directed my national economic council to pursue means to try to further reduce these costs and have asked the federal trade commission to strike back at any market manipulation or price gouging in this sector. president biden promised to tackle inflation. >> today's economic report showing unemployment continued to fall, but consumer prices
remain too high. they tell the u.s. that they're recovering, but not to them. look out there. everything from a gallon of gas to a loaf of bread is going up. it's worrisome. we have to tackle challenges head on. >> meanwhile the white house was put on defense yesterday after senator joe manchin criticized the biden administration's argument that inflation will be short-lived. senator manchin, whose vote, of course, is critical to enact the president's social spending bill cited inflation as a reason to pause some parts of biden's economic agenda. the senator from west virginia tweeted this. by all accounts, the threat posed by record inflation to the american people is not transitory and instead is getting worse. from the grocery store to the gas pump, americans know the inflation tax is real.
the house republicans, meanwhile, who backed the bipartisan infrastructure bill are facing fierce and sometimes violent reactions. "the new york times" reveals there have been threatening noted receiving. one caller suggested adam kizlinger slip his wrist and rot in hello. another hoped he would slip and fall down a staircase. "the times" continues. the dynamic is a natural outgrowth of the slash-and-burn politics of former president donald trump who salve amged those in his party who backed the infrastructure bill as rinos. marjorie taylor greene posted her number. steve bannon sent out the
numbers of the senators who backed the legislation. several congressional aides tell "the new york times" to call the citizens and they conflate the separate pieces of legislation. listen up, but we warn you. this could be disturbing. >> [ bleep ] traitor, that's what you are. you're a [ bleep ] piece of traitor. i hope you die. i hope everyone in your [ bleep ] family dies. >> it's hard to listen to. joining us now, white house correspondent for politico and coauthor of "the playbook," eugene who will be joining our family next week. >> welcome to the family.
>> that's right. speak to it whether it's the law house, capitol police, whoever they are, more broadly, speak about how broken our politics are right now. >> i mean, i don't know if people saw that. i was kind of shaking my head and listening to that message that was left for fred upton because this is something that we've seen before and it's happening with more frequency. but you have lawmakers for kind of the first time being a lot more open about it, right? this is something that we've seen happen to aoc, ayanna pressley, and a lot of those on the left and now you're seeing the right attack its own. this has almost everything to do with donald trump because donald trump's edict has always been overpower, never give in, and, most importantly, never give the other side a win. and so when that is the mantra of a party for four-plus years, now you have, you know, everyday
folks calling lawmakers and telling them they hope they die, to slit their wrists, these kinds of things that are vial and disgusting, and it's hard to come back from that. it's unclear how we do that as a country because it is a problem not just for republicans to do it, right? this is happening to congress people on the left as well, and so it's one of those things that washington, d.c., has kind of coursed through the years and the way they talk about each other. this is the end result of that. >> eugene, let's circle back. for months they were saying they were worried about supply chain issues. it's surged to the forefront in these recent weeks and threatens to become the dominant political story. we heard those concerns from senator manchin. right now, these worries about inflation, how many affect democrats' efforts to get a vote on the president's build back
better package? are there going to be others who express a note of caution proceeding about putting more federal money into the system? >> no, i think so. manchin is usually never the only person who feels a certain way when he's talking, right? he's usually got the proxy for other conservative moderate democrats. this -- you're right though. the white house had not wanted to talk about inflation. we were in the -- in those briefing rooms begging them to talk about it, and they kind of -- you know, sometimes they would say don't worry about it, it's going to go away soon. that doesn't speak to what the -- the anxiety that people actually have when they see rising costs. you see -- you guys played this earlier. the president and the white house talking more about inflation, and they have to kind of steady their political standing. they're seeing their numbers go down, and it puts them in this kind of tough position where they have to thread the needle between the idea that, hey,
progress is being made, look at this, bbb is coming down the line, but also it can't appear out of touch or too much happy talk for folks because then normal voters don't understand that. now, i will say on whether or not the bbb bill will cause more inflation, even larry summers, who feels like this is a white house that doesn't fully understand inflation and understands it's transitory, he even said the spending bills are not going to be an inflation problem because they're paid for and they're good investments. that's a good thing for the white house to talk about because he hasn't exactly been their friend on inflation for the last few months. >> you're certainly right about that. it's rare to see the white house tout larry summers as a voice in this case, but they did. thank you. we'll talk to you again soon. the same federal judge who
refused to block things from the former president rejected the president's latest efforts. late last night the u.s. district judge denied a request for an emergency injunction filed by former president trump's lawyers a day after her initial ruling. she wrote this -- she added that there's still time to file an appeal, though trump attorneys have yet to do so. the national archives plans to turn trump's white house records over to the select committee tomorrow. representatives for the former president did not immediately respond to request for comment. republicans are looking to censure gop rep piv paul gosar over violent video. it shows an anime character with
gosar's face depicting a killing of alexandria ocasio-cortez. we're not going to show it here. in a separate shot, he also slashes president biden with a weapon. the republican defended its posting and called it a, quote, syllabic cartoon. still ahead, the number of young children getting vaccinated against coronavirus is ramping up. what the president's top covid adviser is saying about that. plus we'll talk to a former prosecutor about yesterday's dramatic testimony in the kyle rittenhouse case and the possibility of a mistrial being granted. those stories and a check on the weather as we look at predawn washington, d.c. we'll be back in a few minutes. s
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organizers during the show said -- >> no, we didn't have on-scene, we didn't have direct communication with the organizers, no. >> reporter: firefighters not the only ones feeling cut off from the crisis. >> being in this crowd was literally a life threat, that is apparent. >> reporter: the emt talked about how he fought through crowds to reach fans who passed out and the music was drowning out radio calls for backup. he was forced to bypass the less injured as he tried to save critical patients. >> i had to tell all of them, i will try to come back for you, but there are people literally dead right now i need to go help. >> our thanks to morgan chesky for that report. the biden administration announced major progress in the vaccine rollout for younger children. the white house coordinator gave this update yesterday. >> while our program is just up and running this week, by the end of the day today, we
estimate that over 900,000 kids ages 5 through 11 will have already gotten their first shot. and through pharmacies alone, 700,000 additional appointments are already on the calendar at local pharmacies. parents and families across the country are breathing giant sighs of relief, and we are just getting started. a federal judge has struck down governor abbott's order banning masks in schools. in a 29-page ruling the judge ruled a federal law enacted in 1990 supersedes abbott's july order banning facial coverings in school adding it violates the americans with disabilities act.
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in self-defense in august last year when he killed two people during a protest in kenosha. rittenhouse broke down and the judge had to call for a recess. nbc's gabe gutierrez has the details. >> the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me god? >> yes. >> reporter: kyle rittenhouse broke down. >> there were people right there. >> take a deep breath, kyle. >> reporter: the judge calling a short break, some jurors feeling sympathetic. his mother within earshot sobbing. it was a dramatic seventh day of testimony where the 17-year-old now faces six charges including intentional homicide after shooting and killing two men and wounding another during last year's protest in kenosha,
wisconsin, following the police shooting of jacob blake. >> i didn't do anything wrong. i defended myself. >> reporter: rittenhouse speaking publicly at length for the first time describing how he came to ken know shah to provide aid and defend against rioters. >> i didn't notice mr. rosenbaum until he came out from behind the car and ambushed me. >> reporter: he said rosenbaum had threatened him earlier, yelling -- >> if i [ bleep ] catch any of you, i'm going to [ bleep ] kill you. >> everybody you shot at that night, you intended to kill, correct? >> i didn't intend to kill them. i intended to stop the people who were attacking me. >> you made an intentional decision in the middle of that incident to turn and point the gun at mr. rosenbaum, correct? >> yes. >> reporter: but with the jury out of the room, the judge suddenly raised his voice.
>> don't get brazen with me. >> reporter: admonishing the prosecutor, accusing him of trying to inappropriately introduce testimony that was earlier prohibited. >> you're telling me when the judge says i'm excluding this, you take it upon yourself to put it in because you think you've found your way around it? come on. >> our thanks to gabe gutierrez for that report. the defense is asking for a mistrial with prejudice for what it claims are out-of-bounds questions. the judge did not immediately rule. joining us is an msnbc legal analyst. good morning. thanks so much for being here. let's start with this. explain to the audience what that means, what it would take to get there, and what it would mean for rittenhouse if it were granted? >> if the mistrial is granted
the defendant will be let off and the prosecutor won't be able to retry it. they won't get another bite at the apple. what the defense needs to prove is the prosecutor engaged in bad faith and that prejudiced the defendant. now, based on the comments from the judge, it's very clear that the judge kind of believes that the prosecutor engageded in bad, specifically when the prosecutor began to ask the defendant about it. in addition to that the prosecutor attempted to elicit testimony that the judge already excluded. paced on what the judge said when he said to the prosecutor he did not believe them, it's likely the judge will find that the prosecutor engaged in bad
faith, but the defense will still need to prove it prejudiced the defendant, and i think if the judge gives cautionary instructions during the jury instructions before the jury deliberates, it can probably eliminate any harm or prejudice to the defendant. >> kristen, you are obviously a former prosecutor. if you were there n his shoes, what would you assess at this point? how would you assess the case? is he potentially losing it? >> you know, i think the prosecution has an uphill battle. it's a very challenging case. in these cases we have grainy video. the prosecutor has a tough job to try to prove that kyle
rittenhouse is a cold-blooded killer. i will say up until yesterday i would have said the prosecutor really does -- i would assess the case as, you know, looking toward acquittal, however, the prosecutor did elicit some really good cross-examination testimony from kyle rittenhouse, so really, you know, he didn't have to take the stand, and, quite directly, on the examination, he came across very well, but on cross-examination, the prosecutor did prove some of the legal technicalities that he needed to prove that kyle rittenhouse really didn't have a reasonable belief that his life was in threat. for example, he elicit testimony when none of these individuals had any guns or at least the one did, but it wasn't pointing at him. none of them had any other types of weapons, none of them had it aimed at him.
and the other thing that was powerful testimony that the prosecutor was able to elicit was the fact that, you know, after he killed rosenbaum, he was running around with a gun and could have potentially been provoking any of the other two victims to attack him because he had just killed another person. so i think that's really bad testimony for the defense and can blow away this defense argument. >> kristen, let me ask you one less. if you could maybe briefly assess what you saw from rittenhouse himself on the stand yesterday, the decision to have him up there, you know, how he came across. i know we just said there's some of the jury who perhaps looked sympathetic, and some of those watching posted on social media thought less so, thought he was less convincing in his emotions. what's your sense of how he did, how he came across yesterday? >> honestly, i thought he came off really well on direct examination. keep in mind, jon, he's a
17-year-old kid. really when he started to cry, you know, it's not just -- the jury doesn't just see kyle rittenhouse. they're going to see his mom. and what it does is it humanizes the defendant and undermines the prosecution's narrative that this is a cold-blooded killer. >> all right. kristen gibbons feden, we appreciate you being here with all your insight. police come back soon. we'll pay attention to this trial as it continues. >> still ahead, what the highest inflation level spells for the future of the u.s. economy. we'll get a live report from cnbc here on "way too early." we'll be right back. "way too e. we'll be right back.
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economists have been predicting a decade-high reading on the cpi with supply chain shortages and increased demand pushing prices higher. food costs rose 5.3%. gas is up about 50%, and energy costs are up 30%. for more on that, let's bring in cnbc's julianna. good morning. congress intends to vote on another massive spending pack and. how big of a warning sign are these numbers? >> jonathan, good morning, and thanks for having me. these numbers came in stronger than the market had been expecting. core inflation came in showing the biggest gain since august 1991. these are some pretty hefty numbers. in terms of what matters, policy
makers have been arguing that the current prices are temporary and have been related to the pandemic. they have conceded recently they're likely to linger a little bit longer than they had originally been anticipated, but if they are wrong and stick around for even longer and become even more broad-based, it could have serious implications for interest rates, meaning the federal reserve may be forced to raise interest rates more quickly than anticipated. >> a lot of it is supply chain issues and there are dozens of cargo ships waiting off the california coast. what efforts are being put in place to beef up that part of the supply chain? >> they've been dealing with a struggle since a surge in demand. the biden administration has outlined several initiatives to
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forces from afghanistan, ending the longest war in our country's history. according to the defense department, some 800,000 american troops served in that conflict since 2001. among them is our next guest, democratic candidate for #, marine veteran, lucas kountze. you talk about this as a huge topic. the first two days very tumultuous, harrowing concerns, and whether our american soldiers and afghan friends were able to get out. how do you explain it to the constituents and did you support the withdrawal? >> it's wild. still several months later when i go around the state to all these different towns, that's one of the first things people ask me like what happened in afghanistan. they're still in shock. i was at a farm in palmyra and
these farmers wanted to know how this happened, and i just -- i tell them, you know, here's the deal, like you were systematically lied to for 20 year, we all were. i thought when i was going there i was doing something good, and it's like there was this systematic honesty that told fers 20 years that the lives lost, the trillions of dollars spent were somehow worth it, and we did all see that collapse, and so people are still just shocked by it. for me it's fascinated because i tell them, i was there, and when i was there after 13 years we could tell that it wasn't going to work out. people deeply believe and they think they understand. until you were there, you would say, i've got it. we're going to have one of those days where everybody is posting on facebook, twitter, thank you for your service, let's honor our veterans today and all these
other things, and a lot of them, it's going to be the same politicians who for those 20 years were willing to spend $6.4 trillion overseas and send us over there, and now they're just squabbling about spending any dime, you know, here in our own country. so for me, like if they really want to honor veterans on veterans day, what they can do is invest in the communities that we all signed up to serve. i mean i signed up to serve my community and my city. when i came home from afghanistan, things were worse. it hurts to know so many of us went to serve our communities and we watch us spend all this money over there, build up other countries and not do anything here at home. >> so right now you're obviously running for office in missouri a state that has grown increasingly red, republican in recent years. how do you break through with your message there and elsewhere in the midwest where democrats have struggled in recent cycles? >> for us, it's not like a
left/right, republican/democratic campaign. it's a top/bottom campaign. i can tie this to afghanistan. again, we have a set of politicians on both sides of the aisle who were willing to spend 6.4 trillion dollars building up these other nations and not willing to invest here at home, and people are frustrated about it. they're mad about it. when they saw these so-called experts were building up in afghanistan collapsed in just two weeks, they have a righteous question on their hand, which is what were you doing with all that money and all those lives and in all that time. so for us when i go around the state, when i'm in st. joe, hay tie, jeff city, people want to invest here at home. they want to be told the truth. that's what i'm doing. we're winning on that message, and i'm really excited about it. >> you say the need to invest here at home. let's ask you this. we talked about inflation concerns earlier in the show.
were you -- were you to be in the senate now and had a vote to cast, would you support president biden's reconciliation package, the $1.75 trillion build back better act? >> the thing about inflation for me is why do things cost so much? it's because we don't make anything here anymore. and so when i see the fact that we don't make anything here anymore, i see a lot of our jobs being cut, i see a lot of good towns in jefferson city falling apart -- or in missouri falling apart because we're not willing to just make things here anymore. wall street and these massive corporations have shifted things overseas, they've stripped our communities of profit. for me i would go for anything that invests back here at home, invests for production here at home. this is a national security issue. imagine if you're a general and you're in the united states military and someone says you have to defend taiwan. defend ta.
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joining us now to look at axios, hans nichols. what's our one big thing today? >> it's inflation and the effect that's going to have on this overall build back better bill and joe manchin's instincts to slow things down. when that number landed, it validated his intentions and instincts to go much slower. you look at the rest of the calendar what needs to get done in november and december, it likely means that joe manchin is comfortable. this could get punted by 2022, this is the build back better bill. manchin says this before, he told a group of employers at proctor and gamble he wanted to wait until spring of 2022, that letter he signed with schumer,
he was clear that he wants to see effects of inflation, he's been warning of inflation and now we have a number and that gives him another reason to slow things done. when we broke the story last night and my phone started blowing up and people texting around, i was not surprised by it. joe manchin said this so many times. >> yeah, when joe manchin says things we should believe what he says. axios has a first look of mike allen's interview with chris christie. let's take a look together. >> you said that elections for republicans need to be about the future and not the grievances of the past. donald trump put out a statement says that you got absolutely massacred. >> well, look, i made the conscious decision that i want to spend my time combatting the policies of joe biden and kamala
harris and trying to help governors win the house in 2022. i will not get back and forth with donald trump. when i ran in reelection, i have the percent of the vote but when he ran against joe biden, he lost. >> wow, what do you think about that? >> i am going to say you have horrible taste in ties. that was chris christie throwing a great counter punch and we know all along and you want to ask his ability to throw a counter punch, ask marco rubio, he's clearly ready to mix things up with donald trump. he's not going to back down. chris christie was dying to say something like that. that's the practice rehearse come back line that you work on
with your campaign strategists, he delivered it. to me that tells me you will clearly see chris christie run for president and there will be potential fireworks with former president trump and now we have to wait donald trump sending out a statement criticiing him. he's no longer on twitter. >> chris christie is trying to stake out the lane. hans, briefly one of the things, you are covering house of republicans who voted for the infrastructure bill. what's the latest they may face for party leadership? >> i mean they could be but if you look at most of the noises saying these 13 should be stripped from their committee. he's got four people close to matter saying it's unlikely to happen. yes, there will be a lot of noise about this and there will
be a lot of criticism but them losing their committee assignments does not look like it's going to happen. jonathan. >> hans nichols, thank you. i think it's a good time, at least i bother to get dressed up this morning. thank you for waking up way too early this morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >> i know a lot of americans are worried whether there will be enough stocks on the shelves for thanksgiving and christmas and whether there will be enough of everything you need. i got off the phone with some local delicate test and the manager of a pigly wiggly, i am sure there is plenty of figgy pudding and make sure all the kids have yoyos and