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hillbillies and idiots. and i can't imagine that going well with their membership. sadly it seemed as if they knew that the tension that they were creating among some individuals that were gun object owners were going to impact and who knew that they were forecasting what is happening now. tim mak, thank you. his book is in stores now. don't go anywhere, straight ahead, senator mazie hirono will join the conversation. we'll break down biden's agenda and a lot more. another hour of "velshi" starts right now. good morning, it is 9:00 a.m. in the east coast and 6:00 a.m. in the west. i'm into for ali velshi.
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the house select committee investigating the january 6 attack just got more powerful thanks to the justice department. a federal grand jury has indicted steve bannon on two counts of contempt of congress. the indictment stems from bannon's refusal to comply with subpoenas from the committee investigating the january 6 xpe himself over to law enforcement monday and scheduled to appear in court that afternoon. he now faces up to one year in prison and $100,000 fine if convicted. chair than bennie thompson and liz cheney issued this statement reading that the indictment should send a clear message to anyone who thinks that they can ignore the select committee or try to stone wall our investigation. no one is above the law. bannon has a lot of information that committee would find useful. here is a reminder of why the january 6 committee is so
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interested in talking to him. investigators have pointed to a conversation bannon had with trump on december 30th where bannon reportedly urged him to focus on the electoral college vote count on january 6. and they are also looking at ban bannon's actions when he said that all hell will break lose tomorrow. and also the january 5th meeting at the willard hotel where plans to overturn the election results were discussed. and joining me now is the justice reporter for the "new york times" and also an msnbc contributor. and also a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. katie, i'll start with you. what are you seeing right now that is unraveling in the steve bannon defense? he was claiming that he had executive privilege even though he was a private citizen at the time. he is now getting -- he is no longer just subpoenaed but
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indicted. talk a little bit about what we can expect from his story. >> the question of whether or not a private citizen could invoke executive privilege was somewhat of an open question. it had happened during the trump administration and the justice department had not pushed back. in this case they have. and also keep in mind when you are looking at executive privilege, you are looking at actions taken in the course of the duties of the president, running for re-election is not one of the duties of the president and clearly a lot of the conversations that the committee is interested in have to do with trump's strategy around both winning the race and then overturning the race. >> so cynthia, one of the reasons that i think that it was such a forceful commentary statement that came from liz cheney and from her colleague is to also send a clear message to mark meadows and the other individuals who are refusing to heed the committee's inquiry to have a conversation on what happened day. can you shed light on that strategy?
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>> yeah, i completely agree with that strategy because the truth of the matter is, bannon is never going to tell you anything. this criminal indictment punishes him for not coming, but it doesn't force him to come and testify. nobody will do that. and even if there were a civil case that forced him to testify, he would probably take the fifth amendment. we're not going to hear anything from bannon. this is really about all the other people. and maybe not the top people. you know, mike flynn is never going to say what he did, rudy giuliani is never going to say. but their assistants and people who have futures who are younger, who want to work in government, those people need to respond and they are looking at their families going, wow, i don't want to have to hire a lawyer, i don't want to go to jail. i just want to say what i know and move on. so i think those are the people who this indictment is really focused on. in addition, just generally, we haven't had the rule of law during the trump administration and we need to re-establish that as a rule that people come to
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congress when they are subpoenaed. >> and i think something that was really important is also the justice department stepping in and taking charge. and to quote what attorney general said yesterday, merrick garland, he said since my first day in office, i've promised justice department employees that together we would show the american people by word and deed that the department adheres to the rule of law, follows the facts and the law and pursues equal justice under the law. today's charges reflect the commitment to these principles. one of the this i thiof the thi interesting, he is emphasizing that it was the justice department, not the white house, it was the justice department and that they are not one in the same under the administration which is so different from what our understanding of the trump administration. why is this significant, katie? >> sure, what we saw during the trump administration was a proximity between the justice department and white house, a
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closeness we haven't really seen since the watergate era. and in the wake of watergate, there were safe guards put in place to try to keep the president from abusing the powers of the justice department. and we've seen some of those powers erode. and then that got us to where we were today with the trump administration. so garland is trying to create that distance. and when he say we follow the facts and the law, he is signaling to the american people that we act in this case as we have in previous cases, not all of which democrats like, they make recommendations and i stuck by them and this happened in that -- that is what happened in this case as well. >> so on the political front, some folks are saying that what trump is trying to do and his folks, they are trying to run the clock down. they are trying to avoid this actual ability to have the committee be successful. can you speak a little bit about that, cynthia?
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>> one of the interesting things in the executive privilege dispute is that when the trump administration -- when the trump lawyers figured out that they weren't going to win with this judge, they had an alternative plan, that she would review every single document herself. and that is emblematic about the way that they dealt with the law, just run out the clock. because if this federal judge had to review the hundreds and hundreds of documents that are at issue from the national archives, we'd have the next presidential election. and that is really what they have done. and here what they hope do is run out the clock on all these subpoenas and then if the republicans take over the house and disband the committee, they can withdraw the subpoenas and game over. so it is a process that has worked for them for the last four years. it seems that finally the justice system is catching up and recognizing, no, no, we have to get this moving. executive privilege argument is
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on a fast track. it may not seem like a fast track to people who don't practice law, but two weeks out of d.c. circuit is very, very fast. and so i think that the justice system itself not only the department, but the court system, has figured out that the run the clock defense has been abused and it is time to get things moving. >> and if anybody didn't think that the midterm elections were important, this is another reason that if the republicans take a hold of the house, more than likely they will stop the committee and make sure that we never know what exactly happened on january 6. katie, cynthia, thank you both for joining me. for more on this, i'm now joined by senator mazie hirono of hawaii. she is member of the senate judiciary committee and thank you so much for joining me. you and your colleagues have had a heck of a fall making sure that you are passing legislation but at the same time, you are finding yourselves in this
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interesting dichotomy with your republican colleagues and i want to talk about what we're seeing specifically coming out of the house with the increased tension and increased violent rhetoric to members of, you know, of the house and senate. can you speak a little bit about that and how it feels in the workplace to be surrounded by that? >> the republican party is the party of insurrection, they are the party of the attitude that the rule of law doesn't apply to them. and when you have a member of the house literally putting up a video or whatever of him killing another member, we're at a point where they need to take stock but they won't and they will just keep on going. and that is why the rest of us are -- democrats are getting on with the job of helping our families get back to work and being supportive of lowering costs and all of that. meanwhile the republicans
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continue to sit on their hands doing nothing. all they do is attack. >> well, and do you think that there is a message being sent right now to the republicans now that steve bannon is being indicted that there will be consequences if they don't act? >> unlike the trump years where he considered the department of justice to be his law firm and the attorney general his lawyer. now you have an independent department of justice which i think is chris cal. >> and you were elected to pass legislation and work for the american people. one of the things that we saw was a historic infrastructure bill that passed that will alleviate not just our roads and clean water but has implications
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for a brighter future when it comes to climate energy and so on, so forth. however, now the second part of this plan, the human infrastructure, the one that will build back the population we need to actually drive on those roads and take advantage of the electric vehicles, that is up for discussion. senator manchin seems again to say that he may not vote for this bill because of inflation and, senator, one of the things that i often have conversations with is that people could care less about the private at the pump if they can't pay for child care and get back to work. can you speak to this? >> i agree with you, 4 billion women left the workforce during the pandemic because they have to take care of their children and their families. so a huge part of build back better is to lower child care costs, to provide pre-k which is important for young families. and so i disagree with joe that build better back is going to add to inflation.
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in fact economists rarely agree about anything, but 12 nobel economists say that build back better will actually not add to the inflation and will be anti-inflationary over the long term. so we need to get on and pass the build back better to lower costs for families and address climate change and all of the other parts of the bill that will strengthen or families and our economy. >> and senator, i want to quote a tweet back to you that you tweeted, it says i would like to set the record straight as to who actually is working hard to help american families. as we continue to work on build back better, what are the republicans doing? nothing, nada, zero for american families. now, there is no doubt that if we saw what the republicans did last time around where there was zero support for legislation, in this case, you have folks for example like the delegation of texas where none of them voted
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for an infrastructure bill despite having a terrible grid that made people go into freezing weather and barely survive in some cases. now we're seeing perhaps the ability that they will come back and take credit for a bill that they did not vote for. how can you better message this, how can the democrats better make clear who is on the side of working families? >> by communicating it more effectively, by really showing the roads and bridges and the broadband and all the things that we're doing through the infrastructure bill for example. by the way, the infrastructure in our country has been neglected for decades. remember when president trump said we'll do infrastructure, that lasted for like ten minutes. andhe -- that got nowhere. and so now with this
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infrastructure bill and regarding build better back, that is all paid for. unlike what you mentioned with the republicans the last time which was to create this huge $1.9 trillion tax break for the richest people and companies in our country. that is what they did, that is what they are proud of. so the things that -- you are right, what the democrats have done with the rescue package and infrastructure, republicans will stand next to the bridge or the port that will get modernized and take credit for it. and we can't let that happen. the american people need to know who is actually screwing them over and it is not the democrats. >> my goodness, thank you so much, senator hirono, for bringing that fire this morning. democrat from hawaii, appreciate you. coming up, building bridges, we'll discuss the racist effects of the past infrastructure with new york congressman ritchey torez. plus as more and more kids
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under the age of 12 get vaccinated, we're asking young velshi fans to tell us about their experience getting their first covid-19 shot. and coming up next, the trial of the three white men accused of killing ahmaud arbery takes a turn. an attorney for one of the defendants said the quiet part out loud. defendants said the quiet part out loud >> we don't want anymore black pastors coming in here or other jesse jackson or whoever was in here earlier this week sitting with the victims' family trying to influence the jury in this case. this case ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪
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the trial of three white men accused of killing ahmaud arbery will resume monday after another week of contentious testimony. one of the most notable moments this week came from kevin goff, an attorney for one of the defendants. he said we don't want anymore black pastors coming in here.
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after al sharpton sat with the arbery family in court. for more, i'm joined by liz mclaughlin who is in brunswick, georgia. everything about this case has been racially charged and now we have goff's comments. he did apologize afterwards, but give viewers more context and what has been the reaction. >> reporter: maria, al sharpton was here by invitation from the family. so he didn't just show up. there was a prayer vigil outside and then he sat quietly in the courtroom with the family and by goff's own admission, he didn't even know sharpton was in the courtroom until after the court had adjourned. so it certainly wasn't a distraction. and he was basically bringing up that this could be intimidating for the jury. he even wondered out loud what if people came in white masks dressed as colonel sanders. it was really a face palm moment and the woman sitting next to him kind of buried her head in her hands. and that was sort of a metaphor for the pin reaction to these
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comments, widely condemned. the arbery family -- the mother wanda cooper jones called the comments rude and ensensitive. he did apologize saying that his statements were maybe too broad and that he plans do an official motion on monday. but she -- the mother said that those comments, that apology, wasn't necessarily sincere. so let's take a listen to that original comment and the defense lawyers who are distancing themselves from goff. >> there are only so many pastors that they can have. al sharpton right now, that is fine, but that is it. we don't want anymore black pastors coming in here or jesse jackson, whoever was in here earlier this week, setting with the victim's family trying to influence the jury. >> i know there is a lot of reporting on the statement made by kevin goff yesterday in court about wanting no more black pastors. that statement was totally asinine, ridiculous. and i think that kevin has
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realized that in the heat of what has happened in court and, you know, having concerns that this jury could be influenced by various things, that he said that and i think that he is trying to walk that back this morning. but in no way do we want to exclude anybody from this process. >> reporter: we expect to see more influential pastors, including jesse jackson who has not been in court yet, in the coming days. >> liz mclaughlin, you can't make some things up. thank you so much for your reporting. coming up, crying in the courtroom. a ring tone featuring anthem and inappropriate comments about asian food, the highly scrutinized kylerittenhouse trial is wrapping up. g up
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i didn't want to kill anybody. >> then why are you shooting at someone with an ar-15 at close
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range? you didn't pick up the ar-15 for any other reason? >> i thought it looked cool. but, no. >> the highly scrutinized trial of kyle rittenhouse is nearing its end with jury deliberations expected to begin next week. wisconsin's governor has already authorized hundreds of national guard troops to support local law enforcement in kenisha in case the verdict sparks unrest. he is on trial for killing two protestors last summer during demonstrations against the police shooting of jake sob blake. wednesday rittenhouse took the stand and testified that he shot the men in self-defense. >> people were screaming and i just was trying to get to the police running down the road. >> and you say i'm trying to get to the police. why? >> because i didn't do anything wrong. i depended myself. >> here with me now, writer for the boston globe and also former
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trial attorney. kimberly, talk about your take on judge schroeder, how his behavior can be perhaps be taking away from the actual trial. >> yeah, so it is always an issue how a judge behaves in trial even though that itself is not evidence for the jury to consider. it is part of what the jury sees. and of course it is impossible to the extent that they do see the things that he is doing and saying to sort of take that out of the deliberation. i do think sometimes, and we saw this also with the chauvin trial, sometimes what the judge is doing and saying can feel more impactful than it is in the long run. i haven't seen anything yet that raises to the level that i think could end up being potentially reversible error for the case, but it certainly raises concern that the comment about the asian food in particular. just tells you a little something about who this judge
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is and can really be concerning in terms of his ability to fairly judge this case. but i haven't seen any actual rulings that indicate that that could be a problem yet. >> and this is where i actually want to talk a little bit, but yes, he has given a little into perhaps his character, and if you recall, rittenhouse was embraced by members of the proud boys, and he was seen in pictures with them. and the reason that he was there was because of the racial explosion of again people trying to say we have to stop police brutality. how has that trial moved away from perhaps the original spark of racial tensions in america versus where we are today, is it still a pass-through to what we're seeing right now in court play out? >> yeah, it is an essential part, really the foundation of the entire trial. while what was going on and while the shooting of jacob blake is not a part of the
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elements that the prosecution has to prove in this case, it is the underlying foundation upon all of it. it is the reason that it -- it gets to the reason why rittenhouse believed that needed to travel across state with a gun that he did not procure legally as someone who is not a medic, he admitted on the stand, is not a security guard, but felt that it was his role to play that part, that spurs directly from the calls for racial justice and those who opposed those calls and who saw them as dangerous. so that is a fundamental part of this. i'm sure the jury does understand that. but at the same time, they are tasked can deciding whether the prosecution proved every element in the death of these two men and wounding of another. so it is there. not an element of the crime, but it doesn't mean it is not there. >> and i think that it is important to underline that because we seem to be for getting that just because the victims were not black, that they were white, that all of a
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sudden the whole issue of race is no longer to be discussed. but they were allies that came out in protest of something that was wrong. so kimberly, weare now hearing that there is lesser charges being considered for it aren house. can you speak to where that possibly might be? >> yeah, so it is not unusual at the end of a trial for the prosecution to ask that what are called lesser included charges be considered by the jury in their jury instructions. what that means, these are charges that the factors of them are included in some of the bigger charges, for example intentional homicide, lesser might be reckless endangerment and other things like that. generally speaking, you shouldn't read too much in the prosecution asking for that. they want to increase their chance for conviction. but what it could mean is that the prosecutor is a little less confident in the case that they put forward. if they really wanted someone to
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be put away for the maximum amount, then they may not ask for lesser included charges. so that way it doesn't give the jury an out if they are not completely unanimous on the larger charge. they don't just fall back on it. but at the same time, you don't want to shoot for the highest charge or nothing and if they think that they have made some lesser -- if they think that they have made the case on those other charges, adding those in now might be an indication that they want to get something. >> kimberly atkins, thank you so much for providing clarity on this saturday morning. appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. coming up, in their own words. young velshi fans share what it was like to get the covid-19 vaccine. start your saturday with some good news, coming up next. hi mr. charles. we made you dinner. aww, thank you. ♪♪
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we're another step closer to defeating this thing. and another debate is gripping the right, left and even progressives in the use of the word woke. we're digging into the true menning tomorrow on velshi and so is the cross connection later today. call it the weakness of the wokeness. joining me now is tiffany cross. what do you have for us in store this morning? >> first of all, so awesome to see you, my friend. and i was looking for your kids in that friends of the show special. but i love sharing the screen with you this morning. so you were talking about the word woke. and the chances are people who are using it as a pejorative likely started using the word long after we stopped saying it. so it is really interesting to see everyone trying to define something that we don't even say anymore, especially still don't quite understand what the word actually means. so we'll dig into all of that. and we'll also talk about truckers. first of all, for woke, color of
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change president will be talking about that and how the word evolved and how the right and left are twisting its original intent for all the wrong reasons. and plus did you know there is a trucker shortage hampering the supply chain demand with long hours on the road, low pay and an industry steeped in racism. so they are struggling to find new recruits. and for fans of the '90s hit show a different world, dawn lewis will join me to talk about her latest role on broadway, she plays tina turner's mother. so all that and more coming up on a very jam-packed two hour cross connection right after my beautiful friend wraps up on velshi. >> you have such a good conversation in store and i love rashad, he can really break it down so folks truly understand the meaning. so stay tuned here, cross connection starts at 10:00 a.m. and another quick programming note, tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern, msnbc
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$110 billion dedicated to roads and bridges, $39 billion for public transit and $65 billion for expanding broadband access is just to name a few of the elements in the bill. new infrastructure money is being put towards remedying racial inequities in u.s. highways designs. on monday pete buttigieg discussed the racism embedded in american infrastructure and said that his agency plans to use about $1 billion to remove or rework highways and roads that have been built to divide communities of color from the white ones. take a listen. >> i'm still surprised that some people were surprised when i pointed to the fact that if a highway was built for the purpose of dividing a white and black neighborhood, or if an underpass was constructed such that bus carrying mostly black and puerto rican kids to a beach -- or would have been in this morning was designed too low for it to pass by, but that obviously reflects racism that went into those design choices. i don't think that we have
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anything to lose by confronting that simple reality. >> numerous roads and highways in this country have been built right through black and brown communities displacing millions from their homes over time and helping further shape the economic disparities between white people and people of color. for example, it looks at interstate 10 in houston, tense of thousand of people in mostly black and latino neighborhoods were forced from their homes so this highway could be built. and then there is the cross-bronx expressway here in new york city, it literally divides borough in half. and who lives there? millions of black and latino new yorkers. and for now, i'm joined by amy stallion, an urban designer who works in new orleans, and also congressman ritchey torez who represents the 15th district located in the bronx. i want to start but, amy. one of the things that i found
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so compelling, you stated when i was a kid, i vowed to take it down with my hands. you are speaking about the expressway that basically pitted your family on the other side of new orleans. talk a little bit about that impression as a child and why you dedicated your life to the service of making sure that we are more inclusive country through infrastructure. >> first of all, thank you for having me on. you know, i don't really remember the highway coming down. i was alive, but i can only imagine that the trauma of seeing my neighborhood destroyed is what made me vow to take it down. i walked claiborne avenue numerous times, i did as a kid. my family shopped there even at the few stores that were left after the highway was put up. and i just never liked experience. it is noisy, dirty and i never understood why our neighborhood couldn't be as pretty as other
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neighborhoods around the city. new orleans is a beautiful city. and to see this in my neighborhood was really distressing. so i made the promise to myself and as an adult came back and here i am, making every effort to get i-10 over claiborne avenue down. >> and sometimes we forget how our formative years help us identify what is wrong and we take it to. congressman, i want to bring you in because i think that that is also one of the reasons why you are so exemplary in the chamber. you quoted earlier this week to secretary buttigieg directly, the cross bronx expressway built by robert moss is literally and metaphorically a strublgts structure of racism. and secretary pete, cap the cross-bronx expressway. you know it well, so talk about why you tweeted that. >> if you lived in mid 20th century new york, robert moses
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had the power to wipe you and your family from the man. he had the power to declare your neighborhood a slum, displacing every family and demolishing every building in sight. the cross-bronx expresswes is ae of racism. in the south bronx there are about 15,000 truck strips to and from the terminal market every single day. and those trucks create massive construction on the cross-bronx. and children living near the cross-bronx or attending school are breathing in pollutants that cause them to have respiratory diseases like asthma. it is no accident that they have the highest rate of asthma in the country. that is a consequence of the cross-bronx expressway and the structural racism that it represents. >> congressman, amy, please stay with us. i want to continue the conversation after the break. ine conversation after the break th?
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. welcome back. let's continue this conversation about racism and infrastructure. i am joined, once again, which democratic congressman richieers to and amy sally. i want to talk first about something we are seeing coming out of the republican party. some of your company colleagues say that infrastructure and
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racism don't go together. this is once again brought in by the democrats. can you break that down for me? >> when, infrastructure can be racist, either the racism of robert bows is documented in the power breaker. but what concerns me about highways like across bronx is the racially disparate impact it has on communities of color. the people of color have a greater likely hod of not only living near highways but incinerators, waste transfer stations, the uses of land known to have the environmental burden. the different of life expectancy is as much as a decade. that has more to do with the environment than it does with individuals. >> amy, i want to actually read an excerpt that you wrote for "the washington post" and quote,
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i do not understand why we can't look at these infrastructure relic the way we look at monuments to white supremacy for confederate heroes like the sizing, the lost cause. the statute helps reminders at the times when black people are seen as commodities or nuances. is the in fact that the biden administration is acknowledging this racism today. does that give you hope we will once again move away from the sins of the past and into a brighter future? >> yeah, actually, it does give me a lot of hope but what we all have to do is make sure we do it together. it's one thing to express this intent. it's another thing for the cities and the states to get on board and for people who don't live in these kind of conditions to support those of us who do.
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it's going to take all of us to conquer this problem. >> congressman, there is a specific earmark of a billion dollars to address exactly this issue of tearing down some expressways, trying to revitalize and unify communities in the infrastructure bill s. that enough money? >> a billion dollars is far from enough. but the larger share of infrastructure funding could potentially go towards racial equity initiatives in infrastructure. for me the fundamental difference between fdr's new deal and joe biden's build back better is the emphasis on racial equity and there is no greater expegs of racial equity than recorrecting neighbors didivided by highways. >> when the infrastructure bill first came out, to that point, you were a little disappointed if what was because perhaps there was not enough. can you explain how your stance has changed and why it changed?
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>> yeah. well, i've had to look at this differently, because we have what we have. so i want to take the approach that this will be incremental development for new orleans. we will take the monies that we have and do things like update our track study. excuse me, and work to ensure proper community engagement around this, so that we can get it down and be on the same page as the community. so there are little things that we can do to get to the bigger goal, which is actually to remove and re-imagine clayborn avenue as a beautiful boulevard. so i've had to change my stance because you have to remain positive. we have to work with what we have. but to the congressman's point, a billion dollars not nearly enough to do all of the work that we have to do across this country to lift up people who
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have been acted and impacted by racist infrastructure. it's there. not only in highways, it's there on railroads, where requireds were used to divide communities. so we've got a lot of work to do in america to actually make things right. i think once we all get on the same page, we can do this. i am confident that we can do it. >> i do think it was strike for a city secretary to actually acknowledge the racism sometimes is very true, most don't realize when it comes as remote as infrastructure and it was intentional, congressman. can you talk a little about how this is going to perhaps make all the difference in the bronx? >> it can have the boeshl to be transformative. nothing would do more than improve the public health of the south bronx in america across the expressway.
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which would mean the air and the poisoning of our children. if the subbronx were wealthier and whiter, there would be no cross-bronx expressway releasing gas house emission and air pollution poisoning children. we would never allow a wealthy white chin to live in those conditions. people of color deserve better and clean air should be a right not a privilege. >> well said, thank you for your work and tenacity. i appreciate you having both as a guest today. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you here tomorrow on velshi at 8:00 a.m. eastern. don't go away. the "cross connection" with stephanie ross continues right now. >> all right. good morning. welcome to the cross connection.
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the justice department is finally flexing muscle into the investigation into the january 6th insurrection. a former trump aid steve bannon is expected to turn himself in on monday after a federal grand jury indicted him on two counts of contempt of congress. this is a first news history. bannon had defied under the guise of executive privilege of which he had none. he will find out things will get very real for donald trump's allies if they refuse to comply. mark meadows stifd them on friday. joining me is msnbc contributor, the author of the plot to betray american and former prosecutor and legal analyst glen kirchner. glen, i want to kick it off with you. you and i had a chance to talk a bit last night when this news was breaking. i asked you something. i want to re-visit that question.

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