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ceremony for supreme court nominee amy coney barrett. look forward to that. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hanie ruhle e coverage right now hey there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is monday, november 15th, and we have got a lot of news to get to this morning, so let's get smarter. right now, we're watching a federal courthouse where trump ally steve bannon could turn himself in any minute now. he is facing charges for defying a subpoena, and that is very season business. the january 6th committee warning he might not be the last to face a subpoena. while in kenosha, wisconsin, the trial of kyle rittenhouse will resume in one hour from now, each side set to deliver closing arguments before turning the case over to the jury. also today, the president
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finally set to sign the infrastructure bill as his administration deals with rising prices and shortages that are not going away. the big question, what needs to be done. the president's top economic adviser, brian deese will be here to answer that. we have got to start this hour with all eyes on washington where former trump senior adviser steve bannon is expected to surrender to authorities and appear in court later today. this comes after bannon was indicted on criminal contempt, for refusing to hand over documents to the january 6th committee, and the other for refusing to appear for deposition. ken dilanian is outside the courteous. yamiche alcindor, and harry litman, and brian, he wrote the new book corruptible.
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let's start with the basics, what's going to happen today? >> good morning, stephanie, we expect to see bannon to self-surrender at the fbi's washington field office a few blocks from where i'm standing, and then later early in the afternoon probably, he will appear in this courthouse behind me for a magistrate judge and an arraignment on the two counts of contempt of congress. the charges will be read and he'll have a chance to enter a plea. we found out today his lawyer is a man named david schoen, who represented president trump in his second impeachment trial. it's worth noting that it's very rare that the justice department brings a contempt of congress. there have only been a few over the last 30 years, and that's mainly because the doj is generally reluctant to get in the middle of political disputes between congress and the executive branch. this case is difference. this grand jury handed down this
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indictment on friday and in announcing it, this is about the rule of law. steve bannon has flouted the express will of congress, citing executive privilege. he was not a government employee during the time in question. they want to talk to him about his meetings at the willard hotel in the so-called trump war room on january 5th, the day before the january 6th attacks, and want to ask why he was saying on his radio show that all hell was going to break loose on january 6th and he's flatly refusing to comply. he is now going to face justice in the courthouse behind us. these are charges that are misdemeanor charges that carry up to a year in jail, each, and they can convict him but can't force him to testify. what happens if he's convicted and he's subpoenaed again,s answer is he could be charged a second time. >> you are our legal expert. is this an open and shut case, and even if it is, what does it mean? i'm not sure if it's open and
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shut because he's in front of a very conservative judge. he will rehearse all of these privilege arguments. there's a very important case on the other track in the same courthouse in involving trump, and i think likely that will shut the door on him. but what does it mean? it's really important what ken said. he's now off the table. he's road kill now. they're not going to get his testimony because it's going to take a couple of years. that matters a lot for people like meadows, clark, because what they really want there is for them to actually talk. bannon now, who also seems to relish his view as a kind of bandit will go through it. he's got the money as well. others don't. and what it really means for the committee is they will not hear that testimony that ken just referred to, and that's a decided downside of these charges having been brought. >> let's play a little bit of
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that then. steve bannon on january 5th speaking publicly. listen to this. >> you have made this happen, and tomorrow it's game day, so strap in, let's get ready. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. even if they convict bannon, that doesn't mean he's going to tell anyone what he knows. >> that's right. these charges, these two charges, it's a minimum of 30 days in a jail a maximum of a year along with some fines. but what steve bannon has really in some ways styled himself as is this martyr for the right, and the voice for the voiceless, the trump supporter who won't go away. in some ways, whatever happens with these charges, it's pretty clear that steve bannon is going to continue to sort of spread his conspiracy theories, continue to claim that the election was stolen, even though it wasn't, and i think what you see here in steve bannon is an
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embodiment of the trump wing of the power, divorced in reality and also has a lot of sway! he's not divorced from reality. they have been able, brian, to recreate what reality is and unfortunately the game that we're playing isn't stephen bannon who's running the table. his goal was to fight the system and blow it out. and it almost feels like it's working. we're talking about steve bannon today, and that's exactly what he wants. >> i think that's true, and i think one of the things i talk about in the new book, power is, machiavellian authoritarians, the system can counter act the impulse or ramp it up. what the republican party is doing now is rolling out the red carpet to the next generation of steve bannons, socializing people to think this is normal. the way you behave is avoid
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subpoena, play and game the system. fry to become the center of intention. it's incumbent on democrats to impose serious consequences on people who don't play by the rules because it's not just about steve bannon. it's about our system as a whole, and the more rotten the system becomes over time, the more rotten people are going to want to join it. that's where i think this is an important test case. the democrats do not roll over and people who play by the rules get rewarded and those who end up flouting the rules get punished. >> we keep hearing about others getting subpoenaed. are they playing the same game bannon is. a lot of other people have day jobs. he doesn't. they're more worried than he is. >> a lot of the people who have been subpoenaed do, but that's not to say every person that the committee has subpoenaed so far is actually going along with the subpoena: mark meadows, chief among them. he missed his deposition on
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friday. his lawyers saying he was doing so because he was abiding by what the former president has said to him, which is that he should be remaining under the principle of executive privilege, even though it's not clear exactly that executive privilege is going to apply here. what that resulted in and there had been reported frustration around meadows lack of substantiative compliance over the course of the last few weeks, what his not showing up resulted in the committee releasing a statement, they are considering the same kind of contempt charges leveled against bannon, and meadows. the wording is important. the committee has gone so far as to say they are considering these charges. think of it like a warning shot across the bow. at the same time, though, meadows seems dug in on this. it seems like that's what we're going to be looking for next from the committee. and i think the thing here that they want, they want to compel people to come before them and testify. they want the information that key aids and allies to the
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former president can provide them with. that comes in documents, it comes in depositions but steph, all roads here lead back to former president donald trump. he doesn't want his aides to comply. he wants this stuff to get mired in the courts. he doesn't want them to explore the things they need to explore. he wants to continue to run out the clock so he gets to the 2022 midterms where he thinks that republicans could retake the house, and then this whole thing is over. >> harry, forgive me, i'm the house idiot. if mark meadows wants to claim executive privilege, he was chief of staff of the former president, what was bannon, a radio host, a former employee. how can he claim executive privilege. >> you're absolutely right. >> even if he is his svengali, that's a dude that talks late night on the show and tells you you're the man, he had no
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official job. >> that's right. and he's out, and one of the issues is meadows is really what would be executive privilege in another place if biden hadn't claimed, but the first big point, the average person does not want to get a criminal conviction, and as you say, meadows is among them. he wants a job in the future. he's not well heeled the way bannon is. bannon is all about meadows and the rest of the gang, and the statement that ali referred to happened before the indictment, so now they're in a game of chicken because they want his testimony but on the other hand, they know he doesn't want to go to jail, but he knows they want to be hearing from him. he's number one here, he really is, because all the press report says that he was really at the center of things. so that's the whole deal now. and that's why bannon was brought, to influence everyone else, meadows first and foremost. >> bannon is a rich man happy to be a martyr for ma ga movement
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donald trump himself never claimed executive privilege. do we know why that's the case? >> here's the thing, in some ways, he's claiming executive privilege, and for the first time in our american history, where courts are deciding competing claims of executive privilege, between former president trump and the president biden who has said i'm waving executive privilege on at least these documents right now. in some ways, there's an idea that trump is absolutely trying to say this is executive privilege. the other thing we should know is i think all of the people that are being subpoenaed, these are people who were the closest to president trump. these are the people who the committee knows has information. so i think what harry just said about sort of the warning to all of these people, and steve bannon being sort of an example of what could happen to them, but it will be very interesting to see whether or not white house aides see a contempt charge as a warning. >> you never want to get down in the dirt with other pigs because
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then you too get dirty, however, are democrats playing this too clean? the whole process is moving so slowly that even when it seems like democrats get an apparent win like indicting bannon, often times it leads to nothing. are democrats getting played by trump associates by keeping it high level, doing the right thing? >> i think this is a systematic authoritarian attack on our democracy. and people like steve bannon aren't just martyrs or political, they are dangerous, they have followers willing to subvert democracy. democrats need to treat it as the emergency it is. one of the things i learned, i study dictators and despots, it's harder to rebuild democracy than it is to protect it when you have power. democrats have power. they need to wield that power,
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draw a line in the sand and say this is not okay. this is not normal, and we are going to punch back hard when somebody goes after our democracy, and that's the challenge for the democrats for the foreseeable future. >> it is an emergency and we'll be all over it. thank you, all, you definitely made us smarter. yamiche, harry, and of course my colleague, ken. we're going to leave it there and turn to breaking news overnight. the astroworld festival has claimed another victim, 9-year-old ezra blount died from his injuries, becoming the 10th and youngest person killed. he had been in a medically induced coma for more than ten days. after his dad passed out and fell to the ground, and young ezra got lost in the crowd surge. his family believes he was trampled leading to injuries on to his heart, lungs and brain. that's on top of the other nine concert goers. their ages range from 9 to 27.
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coming up, president biden will sign that massive bipartisan hard infrastructure bill in just a few hours. but rising pricing and massive shortages are still hanging over this administration and the country so what can they do about it. the president's top economic adviser, brian deese to discuss. and court set to resume in kenosha, wisconsin, where courts will decide the fate of kyle rittenhouse in the coming days. we'll take you there. live. ♪♪
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we are just hours away from president biden signing his trillion dollar bipartisan hard infrastructure bill into law. 229 days after it was first introduced. implementing the bill and putting that money to good use would be the job of former new orleans mayor mitch landrieu who oversaw the rebuilding of new orleans after hurricane katrina. of course all of this is a huge win for the administration and democrats especially at a time when inflation and high prices are under mining confidence in almost every element of our economy. we're going to talk to brian deese in charge of the economy response in a minute, but first a look at where our economy stands right now. >> pain at the pump. >> gas prices are bananas. >> in the checkout line. >> everything is more expensive, across the board. >> the consumer price index jumping 6.2%, the largest annual
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increase in 30 years. holiday shoppers seeing it as they cross names off their gift list. lots of promotions, but not necessarily bigger discounts, and it's costing more to travel, with air fares up 23% this thanksgiving compared to last year, when the pandemic kept people home. with the increase, prices today are less than they were pre-pandemic. and if you are hitting the road this holiday season, expect to pay a lot more. gasoline prices are 60% higher than a year ago. but staying home will likely cost more too. this winter, rising fuel prices mean you could spend $500 more. with the economy roaring back after the pandemic, higher prices are not a surprise. >> it's not atypical to see inflation pop, temporarily coming out of a downturn and what surprised me most is how broad based the price increases are.
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a concern echoed by the white house. >> though wages are going up, we face challenges, and we have to tackle them head on. >> brian deese, the director of the white house national economic council. brian what is the president talking about? what are you going to do? >> well, we're going to make history today. the president is going to sign this bipartisan infrastructure bill into law, and as you mentioned, presidents of both parties for decades have been talking about getting infrastructure done, and today the president is going to make that happen, and we're going to waste no time beginning to implement the bill in a way that the american people can see the benefits in their lives. as you mentioned, mitch landrieu is joining the administration, we're excited about being able to move out on it. >> that's not going to impact the crippling inflation we're feeling right now. what are you going to do about that now? >> i think we need to start and take that with context. if we look back to when the president took office, we were in an outright economic emergency. you and i spoke about it at the
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time. 18 million people on unemployment insurance. 3,000 people a day dying. you look back to last thanksgiving, the reason prices were low is nobody could travel. people weren't able to spend time with their families in the midst of an unmitigated covid outbreak. because of the steps the president is taking, we're seeing an economic recovery that is the envy of the world. economic growth is growing faster than any major economy. we have brought the unemployment rate down to 4.6%, two years faster than most experts projected. now the question is how do we go at this issue of prices in a way that actually continues the strength of this recovery. number one, that means finishing the job on covid. i want to underscore that the pandemic and the economy are related. and the more that we do, the progress that we make to get 5 to 11-year-olds vaccinated, that gives parents more confidence to get back into the work force. the more workplaces that we can get covid free, the more we can return to a sense of economic normalcy, more people will go
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out and spend their money at the movies, rather than buying a tv at home. that's the kind of rebalancing that we anticipate, the more progress we can make on covid. >> all of that makes perfect sense. however, why is that we are not seeing the fed raise rates and end bond purchases. it doesn't make sense why we are still at the levels we're at. we haven't seen inflation like this since the '90s. why on earth would we still be at zero and buying bonds. >> i think you know my answer to that question which is we have a lot of respect for the independence of the fed. >> you can have an opinion. >> you're not going to hear me or the president pass judgment on the fed's execution of monetary policy. it's important to maintain the independence there. our focus is on the steps that we can take right now and in the very near term focusing on covid, also focusing on these supply chain issues. one of the things that i think is important for people to understand is that this economy
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right now we're moving more goods through this economy than we ever have in history. the amount of goods that are moving through the economy is up 17% from before the pandemic took place. and so it's putting stresses on our supply chains. we're working to address that in the immediate term, working with ports around the country to move goods faster. this infrastructure bill, don't underestimate the impact this is going to have across our economy with people understanding there is help on the way, there's investment on the way to help unstick some of these bottlenecks. >> do you think raising rates right now and stopping buying bonds would be help on the way. as we continue to buy bonds, the only people that helps are investors, and you've got the middle class being absolutely torched for being savers. >> again, what i would say is i'm going to leave the execution of monetary policy -- >> he's going to execute but you can have an opinion on it, sir. the country is watching you. you are the economic adviser to
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the president. you are telling the president, here's what raising rates would do, here's what would help, here's what would hurt. what do you think about raising rates now? >> well, stephanie, respectfully, one of the things that's important about our economic policy making in this country is giving the fed the independence to actually act without political interference. that was something that the prior administration run rough shot over, and we don't think that's the right thing to do. what we're going to do is give them the space to make those determinations, and at the same time we're going to focus on things that will address some of the issues you're raising. take the issue of what is the family's biggest asset, their home. right now, it costs too much to find home ownership in america, and one thing that we can do that would make a big difference would be to invest in building more affordable homes around the united states. for a decade. as you know, we have under invested in building affordable housing, both for rental and for home ownership. this bill that's in front of congress this week would make that investment now to actually
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address what will otherwise be rising home prices next year. that's the kind of thing that we could do to address issues you're raising on the fiscal policy stuff. >> if this happens, you have said before that this is transitory. when do you see this inflationary environment that we're living in, when do you see it improving? >> most independent experts look forward to 2022 and see inflation moderating. i think the most important question is how can we make progress on the elements we know will help move this recovery forward, moderate prices, bring down prices but continue the strong wage growth we have seen. continue the strong job growth, that's getting covid under control, and implementing the historic infrastructure bill, and it's going at the costs that typical americans face, like housing, like the cost of prescription drugs and health care, and like child care. those are all steps that we have within our power to take right now, and that's where our focus
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is. that's where you're going to see us work with congress to pass the build back better legislation. >> thank you so much. congratulations, historic bill going to be signed into law today. >> thank you. coming up, the national guard in kenosha, wisconsin, on alert, as a jury is set to decide the fate of kyle rittenhouse any day. we're going to take you there next. 're going to take you ther next bipolar depression. it made me feel like i was trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression.
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in just moments, closing arguments are set to begin in the kyle rittenhouse trial in wisconsin with a possible verdict this week. and with the city already on edge, the governor has activated the national guard. gabe gutierrez is live at the courthouse in kenosha. and kristen given fenton is a former prosecutor herself. gabe, you spoke to rittenhouse's mother ahead of closing arguments. what's she saying. >> reporter: good morning, wendy rittenhouse says she's scared ahead of the next phase of this trial. her son's fate will soon be in the hands of the jury, but not before both sides will have one last opportunity to make their case. closing arguments begin today in the homicide trial of kyle rittenhouse after two weeks of witnesses sometimes heated courtroom exchanges. >> don't get brazen with me. >> reporter: and emotional testimony from rittenhouse himself. >> how hard was it to see your
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son like that. >> it was very hard, and very difficult. >> reporter: wendy rittenhouse said her son is being treated for ptsd. >> reporter: what do you say to people who look at this case and think this teenager had no business bringing a military style weapon to this chaotic scene. >> a lot of people shouldn't have been there. and he brung that gun for protection. and to this day, if he didn't have that gun, my son would have been dead. you know, he went down there to help, and he was chased by a mob. >> reporter: rittenhouse faces six counts including intentional homicide for shooting and killing two men and wounding a third. it happened during unrest in kenosha last summer, following the police shooting of a black man, jacob blake. the attorney for gauge grosskreutz said rittenhouse
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created the conflict. if convicted, the now 18-year-old could face life in prison. the judge indicating he'll allow the jury to consider lesser charges. the case has attracted national attention, defining those who see rittenhouse as a vigilante looking for trouble or as a patriot protecting the city. ahead of a possible verdict this week, wisconsin's governor has authorized hundreds of the state's national guard. are you anticipating, looking forward to, dreading the verdict? >> i'm scared. i am overwhelmed. 12 people has my son's life in their hands. >> reporter: one of the words of the day will likely be provocation. the prosecution will likely argue that rittenhouse himself provoked the attack by joseph rosenbaum, and that's why they say that he can't claim self-defense, and the defense meanwhile, stephanie will likely
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argue that a pixelated photo is not enough to convince jurors that rittenhouse raised his firearms. 12 jurors will be randomly select from the 18 who have heard the case so far. deliberations could begin later today. >> a city on edge. the prediction that if this young man gets off, people will be rioting in the streets. can you remind us, though, you mentioned it on friday. the prosecution has a tough case on their hands. this is not an easy one. >> this is not an easy one, stephanie. you're absolutely right. the prosecution has a very challenging case. in order for them to get a conviction, they have to prove, not necessarily that kyle rittenhouse had the intent to kill but had to show based on the lesser included charges that the judge allowed as well as the way kyle rittenhouse was
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charged, they have to show he was reckless. one thing that makes it difficult is they have to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt that kyle rittenhouse used this lethal and fatal force in self-defense. and that's one reason that they want to show that there was provocation. they want to show that there was provocation because then kyle rittenhouse has to really exhaust all of the other options before using deadly force. now, the other thing i think that's really important, too, stephanie is the one charge that, you know, most people thought would lead to some type of conviction was possession of a deadly weapon by a person under 18, and that's because there's no question, there's no dispute that kyle rittenhouse was a minor at the time that he was carrying around that ar-15, now it looks like it's more difficult for the prosecution to prove that charge because of the arguments that were held on friday, the judge is going to instruct the jury that unless the state or the prosecution can prove that the gun had an
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unlawfully short barrel, he can not be convicted of that charge that was kind of the give away, and that's because there's a little ambiguity in the statute that the defense argued lies in their favor whereas the prosecution said that's really only for hunting, and it looks like it's going to be effective for the judge. really, if the prosecution cannot disprove that self-defense, there's going to be an acquittal. >> hunting with an ar-15. what does the defense need to do here, and how much has the judge helped them in this case? >> the defense really just has to convince one of those 12 jurors that kyle rittenhouse didn't intend to kill anyone or that he wasn't really reckless. really, they just need to show that the prosecution did not carry their very hefty burden beyond a reasonable doubt to show that kyle rittenhouse, you know, recklessly or intention that willy killed two individuals and harmed or
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attempted to kill another individual. remember, the prosecution also has to, beyond a reasonable doubt, disprove that self-defense. so even that the defense can just say, hey, he was acting in self-defense, and they do have a lot that they can use. you know, he was hit with a skate board. he was kicked, but again, i think the prosecution's narrative is going to be strong. why was he there. why did he have an ar-15, and quite frankly, i think some of the nuggets that the prosecution was able to elicit from kyle rittenhouse's testimony helped them prove it. again, the prosecution has to convince all 12 of those jurors and it's going to be difficult. >> my goodness, all eyes will be on these closing arguments. we'll be broadcasting them here live on msnbc. it's a reminder, you don't get to see many of these cases. you wonder what happens in courtrooms, who are america's judges. you're watching it right now today. coming up, breaking news about a major political race that's being watched very closely.
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and we've got some breaking news getting all of our attention just seconds ago. steve bannon arrived at the courthouse on his way to surrender to the fbi after being indicted for defying a subpoena from congress. he is set to appear in a district court later today. you can't see him right here. you can just see that gray hair behind those cameras. look at him, he's not rushing past him to walk inside. what is he like? this media attention, martyring himself for maga. a smile on his face as he's set to surrender. other breaking news we're getting in. former democratic presidential candidate beto o'rourke officially announcing on twitter that he is running for governor of texas, against incumbent greg
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abbott who's running for his third time. the three term congressman from el paso is not expected to face any serious challenges to the democratic party's nomination, and seeks to become the first democrat to win statewide office in texas since 1994. and remember, the state, the population, the demographics have been changing year after year. and developing this morning, a story almost hard to believe but it's not. six current and former health officials say the trump administration repeatedly interfered with the cdc's messaging on the coronavirus last year for political reasons. according to interview transcripts released by house subcommittee, then president trump blocked the cdc from holding public briefings for more than three months after a top expert warned of the virus spreading back in february of 2020. joining us now, a person who has been breaking story after story about this, "washington post" health care reporter dan diamond, and dr. celine gounder,
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an infectious disease expert and epidemiologist. dan, how far did this go? because february 2020, that was just a couple weeks after trump was in davos doing an interview, blowing off corona saying never showing up here, we're not worried. >> that would have been a good time to hear from the cdc about the risks of coronavirus to the average american. and dr. nancy messenior was trying to get out in front of coronavirus coming here. one of the new details we learned from the house panel is that the doctor also had difficult conversations with the cdc director, with the secretary alex azar after that, and the weeks and months to come, cdc essentially disappeared from public, and i tend to think of it, stephanie, as cdc was trying to fight a two-pronged war in early 2020. they were trying to fight the virus, and fight for control of
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the agency's messaging. >> dr. gounder, give us a reality check here. how many lives could have been saved if we understood even a fraction of the severity of this last winter or 2020, yes. >> stephanie, i think the challenge here for the average person is when you are told, you know, this is not really a threat, when the risk is minimized, it becomes very difficult to convince people to take the public health measures seriously, to comply with those measures. had americans known that over 750,000 fellow americans would be dead by now from this pandemic, i think it would have been a very different conversation back then. i think some of the resistance that you saw to masking, to social distancing, and so on would have been much less if people truly understood the risk. >> dan, here's the thing, though, the house subcommittee is investigating all of this. we're learning if and what consequences could there possibly be. >> well, i think some of what
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they're investigating is adding to what we knew last year. some of these details did come out in reporting that i did, that some other folks did in 2020, but i think the hope, stephanie is this is getting us better prepared to navigating the remaining weeks and months of this pandemic, and any public health crisis of the future. the house panel is hoping to get dr. robert redfield, they want to bring him in for interviews, and looking to interview several career officials as well at cdc. >> and then what. let's say they bring every single one of them in, and every single one of them says we wanted to tell the american people this and that and everything, that's beside the point, it's history, what would the consequences be beside, man, trump disappointed us as it relates to covid. >> well, i'm a health reporter, not a legal reporter. i don't know all the legal consequences. i will say we'll be dealing with a referendum on who handled the pandemic better.
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we have seen the cdc under president biden stumble in different ways too. the agency, the government response, there have been challenges in 2020 and 2021. i have no doubt that as we move into next year's midterms, we will hear from republicans who criticize this administration for its handling of coronavirus. the more we know about how the government is responding to the pandemic, the more will shape our future policies. >> there is not a current administration blocking the cdc from anything relating to messaging from the public, however, messaging is still really really confusing, especially about the boosters right now. why is that? >> i think this is because there is so much disagreement, frankly, among scientists themselves as to whether boosters are indicated. the groups in which they are clearly indicated are the elderly, people living in long term care facilities like nursing homes, as well as the staff working there, and people who are highly
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immunocompromised. we should think of the j&j vaccine now as a two-dose vaccine, just like the pfizer and moderna vaccines, but beyond that, it is truly quite contentious. there's a lot of debate among scientist as to whether boosters should be given more broadly. >> in part because i don't know what indicated signifies, do i get the booster or not. this is totally confusing. dr. gounder, dan, amazing reporting. thank you so much for joining us, and we are keeping an eye on a d.c. court minutes after steve bannon turned himself in on two counts of contempt of congress. there he is smiling and shaking hands, patting the back of reporters. for those who say he's getting his, this is terrible news for bannon, seems like it should be, but he's not signifying it is. he seems pretty happy that all eyes are on him. we are minutes away from the jury returning to that kenosha,
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around the world this morning, there is growing concern about queen elizabeth's health. the queen, who is 95 years old, missed sunday's remembrance day service in london, a day dedicated to honoring veterans.
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the palace saying that she has sprained her back. the latest cancellation coming three weeks after she had been hospitalized for an unspecified illness. kevin tibbles joins us live from buckingham palace. kevin, sprained her back? have they given details how on earth that happened? >> reporter: no, no details as of yet, stephanie. the bottom line here is that we have heard from some weeks now that the queen's health has been in question. it's been some three weeks since the queen has been seen in public. a number of events that she was supposed to be attending, one in northern ireland, and then of course, the big environmental conference up in scotland last week. and then yesterday, remembrance day, which is obviously a very important commemoration of the end of the first world war and obviously second world war here in the uk. she said that she was looking very forward to attending that, but of course, yesterday, it was her son, prince charles, who laid her wreath, the wreath in her name at the cenitaph here in
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central london. no word on how serious her condition is, aside from the palace saying it was a back issue that prevented her from going there. and of course, the other thing is, we almost remember that the queen has been on the throne for 69 years and the queen is 95 years old. we are in the middle of a covid scare. and perhaps she's taking the best medical advice and not putting herself out in public as much as she might want to. the word did come from the palace that she was very disappointed that she was not able to attend. but some time last evening, perhaps when the scare or the worries got out there, prime minister boris johnson did come out and i that he met with the queen last wednesday and that she was doing very well. so here outside of buckingham palace, perhaps, a big sigh of relief. stephanie? >> doing well, just keeping health and safety a priority. kevin, thank you so much. and we here are watching
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now to the story everybody is talking about in the sports world.
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green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers just led his team to a 17-0 victory over the seattle seahawks last night. it comes 11 days after he tested positive for covid and admitted he misled the public about his vaccination status. joining me now to discuss, pro football talks mike flourio. so rogers is back. he and the team were both fined, small, small fines in the grand scheme of things. but what is the status of the nfl's investigation? over and done with? moving on? >> it is over. it's done. they handed out the fines and there are a lot of people who think that the packers received favorable treatment. the problem is that the legal won't respond to multiple inquiries that i have made as to what other teams have been fined this year. what other violations have there been? it would be easier to compare what happened to the packers to other teams if they would have some transparency there, but they don't. and in part, because they don't want it to be obvious that the packers did get a relative slap on the wrist. rogers got a relative slap on the wrist, now he's back, he
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played, and the game continues to move forward. >> then do you think, given your reporting, your expertise, that he and the team got just a slap on the wrist because there were many other teams and players we don't know about that are in similar situations? >> well, it goes back to last year, too. there were covid protocol violations. certain teams got punished, certain teams didn't. this is a deeper problem in the nfl. the perception, if not the reality that some teams get most favored nation status, other teams are the ones that get aggressive investigation and punishment. that's what has people upset around the league. that there's a belief that the packers caught break from the nfl, maybe because their ceo -- they don't have an owner, they're a publicly owned company, their ceo mark murphy is believed to have a close relationship with the league. they got a break. other teams out there would not get that same break. that's what has people upset today. >> well, you know who's not upset? packers fans. they're pretty psyched today. mike, thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. that wraps up this very busy
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hour. thank you for watching. i'm stephanie ruhle, and we are all keeping an eye on kenosha, wisconsin, where the kyle rittenhouse trial will resume any second. don't go anywhere. jose diaz-balart picks up breaking news coverage right now. and good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart on an incredibly busy monday morning. soon, closing arguments are set to begin in the kyle rittenhouse trial, in a city praying for calm, as this highly emotional case unfolds in that wisconsin courtroom. and just moments ago, former trump adviser steve bannon arrived at the fbi washington field office to turn himself in, after being indicted by a federal grand jury for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the january 6th committee. in washington, president biden is set to sign into law that sweeping bipartisan infrastructure bill. we'll talk to new mexico governor michelle


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