tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC November 16, 2021 9:00pm-10:00pm PST
as having been alive to all this time. and there's gonna do that soon, his numbers tell them so. they're all gonna come back and reveal themselves as alive now, so they can all be part of triumphs -- trump's triumphant return to power, not just as president the united states again, but as king of the world. so, the qanon folks initially prophesized that jfk junior, would come back from the dead and reveal himself to the world on july 4th 2019. that did not work out. must have been something wrong in the calculation. then, a couple of weeks ago, november 2nd of this year, 2021. like a ton of qanon people, maybe 1000 people, maybe more, turned up in dallas. ideally plaza. where president kennedy was assassinated in 1963. all these qanon people turned up in shockingly large numbers on november 2nd, expecting, not only that jfk junior would be rising from the dead there, but
that his father, the assassinated former president jfk senior would be with him. and again, the whole point of them being resurrected from the dead revealed to have not really died at all, the whole point of it to the qanon folks is that these people who are believed to be dead are now showing themselves to the world because there are on trump side. and they're gonna help trump return to power as king so among other things he can start on the mass public execution of all of his enemies, which is always been the end point of all the qanon conspiracies. it's a bloody thing that they promote, when i said you can look into it if you want to feel sick, the qanon conspiracies have all latched onto all sorts of things but they all, at their heart, are sort of blood soaked vengeance tail. in which there are public executions of every democrat you've ever heard, and every celebrity you've all sorts -- but they decided are key to the conspiracies. stop killing people. in mass numbers.
for the entertainment and glorification of the qanon adherence, and donald trump a couple of weeks. ago, when that unexpectedly large number of qanon folks turned up at the dealey plaza where there was this flurry of new national news coverage, this was a lot of people. and it was craziness, it was some sort of conspiracy theory fringed fest that popped up in the middle of dallas, but then a faded away. until yesterday they came back. vice news had some actually good reporting this week, showing that it seems like a significant number of pete these qanon folks actually never left dallas after the failed prophesy about jfk and jfk junior two weeks ago. they hold up in a dallas hotel to wait for another prophesy, right? but, last night at midnight they apparently thought both jfk senior and jfk junior were really coming back, and so they emerge from their heidi holes and came from all over the united states again and headed back out to dealey plaza by the hundreds to wait for the
lightning bolt, or whatever. at one point last night, as they were all assembled there at the dealey plaza waiting for the resurrection's, some police cars went past with their sirens on and the whole crowd of qanon folks at the dealey plaza lost their minds. that must have been him, that must have been him, oh my god, i have chills. what happens to these folks? i mean what happens to them in the short run, to these people now leave dallas again? they thought this was gonna happen in 2019, they thought it was gonna happen two weeks ago, they thought up in the two last night at midnight, it seems like it hasn't happened. do they stay in dallas now? because they're gonna get another day, right? this guy's gonna pick some numbers out of his squiggles in as roma noodles, or whatever. and tell them oh actually it's wednesday. do they stay in dallas? do they pack it up? do they wait for another prophesy, another dead celebrity and politicians are gonna turn up somewhere else? i made, to they pledge allegiance to one side of the
multiple grift or who has currently claiming to -- i kid you not. there are multiple people turning up a qanon conferences now, claiming there are all jfk junior. do the trump supporters and qanon pick one of those jfk junior impersonators and start following him as if they're prophecy came true? what's next for these folks? and for the many, many grifters working this sad and dangerous trump world scam, happily relieving these poor souls of the retirement savings, to they go back to dealey plaza again? do they make it a permanent pilgrimage site? will there be some other one? will there be merchandise for them to buy their? i'm sure there will. i mean, that's how things are going right now. in the republican party base interim florida, how is your day? what was the news in your world today? today, abc news reporter jonathan karl's book finally came out about the last months of the trump administration, this book has been making news for a couple weeks ahead of
today's publication day. here's a nice part, you may recall controversy, we spent quite a bit of time on right at the end of the trump administration, it was something that we were never quite able to figure out that sort of set off a lot of alarms. after the election, in the last weeks between trump lost the election to biden and inauguration day when biden was finally sworn in, during trump's -- trump went out of his way to stuff the top echelons of the pentagon with trump loyal apprentice appointees, who had no experience that would qualify them for them sooner jobs. these were people who were above all, exclusively known as trump loyalist, these were people who for example had worked for mike flynn, who had worked for the fringe east and weirdest trump warriors in congress. people who worked for, devin nunes, why did trump want with those guys at the time. that he spent all of that time and energy during that --
stuffing them into senior jobs at the pentagon just for the dying days of his administration. what did he think they were gonna do their? while jonathan carl's new book he explains how one of those trump appointees, and we spent a lot of those times -- one of the things he was doing in his last day of pentagon was he was fielding calls from mike flynn, after the election. flynn telling him that he needed to act from his senior position at the pentagon, to overturn the election. quote, this is from jonathan carl's book, we need you. flynn told him. he said there was going to be an epic showdown over the election results. he said he needed to get order signed, that ballots needed to be ceased, and that extraordinary measures needed to be taken to stop democrats from stealing the election. the trump pentagon appointee, cohen-watnick, quote had enormous respect for flynn. and the retired general had given him one of the most important jobs on the national security council when he was just 30 years old. but as flynn ranted on the phone about the election fight,
cohen what nick felt his old boss sounded manic. shortly after flynn called him, cohen-watnick received another call from sydney powell. flynn's former lawyer who was now advising president trump, and like flynn promoted some of the craziest theories about the election. sydney powell called it cohen-watnick with a bizarre request, the request was specific, arrange urgent, and highly percent it if. it was also completely insane. cia director gina haspel has been hurt and taken into custody in germany, she told cohen-watnick. you need to launch a special operations missions to get her. that's where cohen-watnick have never been for spoken to colin powell, and she was shocked that she called him out his direct phone line in his office. it was a phone that only rang with the recalls from the pentagon or from the white house, an unpublished number that somebody with the access to the eternal directory had to give given her. sydney powell went on to explain to him that cia director -- had been hurt while on the secret cia operation to seize a
computer server from a company named slidell. the server powell claimed and contained evidence that hundreds of thousands of, maybe millions of votes had been swish using rigged voting machines. sydney powell believed gina haspel had embarked on this secret mission to get the server and destroy the evidence. in other words, the cia director rector was part of the conspiracy. that's why sydney powell wanted as roe cohen not want nick to send a special operations team over to germany immediately, they needed to get the server and for cia director gina haspel to confess. that's what cohen-watnick thought powell sounded out of her mind. he quickly got off the phone reported the call to the acting defense secretary. but powell did not stop there. she then emailed cohen with another bizarre request. she wanted help getting something called a letter of mark. this was a rather obscure demand, but a letter of mark from the u.s. government would essentially allow powell to act as a modern-day pirates, seizing property from u.s. adversaries. jonathan karl writes, quote,
seriously. it's actually a real thing. an article one of the u.s. constitution, section a, clause 11, congress has granted power to grant letters of mark and reprisal, and to make rules concerning captures on land and water. at the time it was written the idea was given to -- was to give privately owned ships, private years, aka cover government authorize pirates, the authority to raid merchant ships who were aiding an enemy during time of war. why did sydney powell want a letter of mark? did she want to conduct her own mission, to see some mysterious computer server in germany? who the hell knows. quote, the efforts of michael flynn and sidney powell to enlist errors or a cohen-watnick in their efforts to overturn the election results, which are reported here in the book for the first time, are the hmong the strangest and most potentially dangerous actions taken by trump's allies in the aftermath of the election. just think of the request from sydney powell, she was asking the top intelligence official at the pentagon to disperse dispatch a special operations
team on a mission to capture the cia director. we and the most disturbing thing about all of this is that sydney powell was not just alone crack pot, she was working side by side with rudy giuliani as a member of the presidents legal team. and, by late december, she would be meeting repeatedly with president trump in the oval office. all -- ignored policy email, the fictional story about hospitals allege chic readmission spread throughout social media on websites associated with the qanon crystal conspiracy. we and now tonight, less than a year later, the qanon conspiracy theory adherence are waiting in dealey plaza in dallas. for the ghost of jfk junior, and jfk himself. to reinstate trump as president because they're going to be his zombie running mates, or whatever. and, you know, trump is endorsing republican candidates all over the country who pledge that really he should be
reinstated as president. and jonathan carl's reporting in this part of the book does actually jive with something that really made no sense at the time, last december, december 4th 2020. right around the time that he reports this was happening, rioters put out a fact check about some of the trump election claims that were circulating online. and their fact shacked -- included this bewildered statement from an actual cia spokesperson, quote, cia spokesperson nicole da told -- via email this is the most absurd inquiry i've ever addressed, but i'm happy to tell you that director has pell is alive and well and at the office. it was so confusing at the time that the cia had to bother to put out a public statement from a named spokesperson asserting that the cia director was in fact a life. but now we know that that was not a response just too crazy qanon's people, talking in their chat rooms. right? talking to each other on the
gab in the telegram and the machine they made with the bean cans, and the tinfoil in the string between them. now we know that that cia spokesperson wasn't just responding to that craziness, in this malice, dank's corner of of the internet. cia was responding to something that had been put to the top of the officials at the pentagon. a trump appointee, who was being asked by someone who is meeting regularly with the president to go dispatch navy seals, or like delta force, or whatever, to rescue the cia director, so she could then be the interrogated and then presumably publicly executed. like all the democrats and celebrities with a people want to kill in front of them. this is how it's going. on earth to. where millions of our fellow americans live. there is president biden today, on earth one, in new hampshire. promoting the fact that his new
infrastructure bill is going to finally pay to repair a bridge that has been considered dangerous since 2013. that were just finally gonna get fixed. tomorrow, president biden is going to a big electric vehicle factory, huge ev only factory that gm is opening up in michigan, president biden's epa she was just in jackson, mississippi. talking about how the infrastructure bill is finally gonna help that great american city fix it's terrible and intractable drinkable drinking water problems. here's the fda working triple time to approve booster shots for the covid vaccine for all americans, and to approve promising new covid treatments that have been developed by american firms in record time. right, that's what's going on and worth one. and then, simultaneously here is the republican party most fanatical based voters singing we are the world and praying in a circle -- because they assume that reincarnated former presidents son will come back from the dead, like clause way out of a casket, and run with trump to
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presidential election the trump campaign and republicans in the great state of nevada and our friends at the fox news channel, they were very, very, very excited about what they said was one clear cut, absolutely indisputable terrible case of documented voter fraud. you may say that voter fraud was not proven. in this case it was definitely proven. they relentlessly hyped the case of a single ballot cast in the name of a woman who could not have cast the ballot legally herself because she, sadly, died in 2017. in clark county nevada, the county issued a ballot in her name, mailed it to her home address. records then show that that ballot had been filled out and turned in and she voted. but how could that be? her husband said he had found no ballots that arrived in the
house. so it must have been a clear case of voter broad, her ballot was stolen and someone had voted in her name. the nevada republican party frequently promoted this video, of the husband speaking with a local cbs affiliate. >> it was disbelief. just that -- it made no sense to me. it lent some credence to what you have been hearing, in the media, about these possibilities. now it makes me wonder how pervasive is this? >> how pervasive is this? he was shocked, shocked to find out that i ballots had been cast in his wife's name. clearly, it made no sense. but it sure does make you think, right? all these claims you have been hearing about this voter fraud? it must be true. here's a proven case. if there's this one proven case, there must be tons of it. today, that man pled guilty in court to felony voter fraud
because he now admits, after all that, that he was actually the man who cast his late wife's ballot. the poster boy for voter fraud, so shocked that this could happen, her was hartle given a 2000 dollar fine. here's the judge today. >> ultimately, this seems to me a cheap political stunt that backfired. you were ultimately caught. what >> the voting system works because you are ultimately caught. after all of this hyping, by the trump campaign and that republicans in particular, as far as we can tell, none of those entities have had any response now at all to the husband now pleading guilty, to the bizarre, stunning collapse of the probably most highly promoted false voter fraud allegation in the country. joining us now is the man we
turn to any time something crazy happens in nevada politics, founder and ceo of the nevada independent, it's great to see you my friend, -- >> nice seeing you as well, rachel. so have i got the four corners of this story correct? is there anything i am leaving out or getting wrong? >> there is a qanon tie, do you want to hear about that? since you've been talking about qanon a bit? one part that you didn't talk about is this guy who has now pled guilty actually works for a guy who is essentially a mini sheldon adelson, who win caesar's palace rejected a qanon convention, guess what's, it went to the company of where this guy works. the company is a sham from the beginning and you accurately
dramatized how incensed they all were that this voter fraud had taken place. and how front and center kirk hartle's allegations were -- it was -- , co-chair of the trump campaign, and the trump campaign nationally sent 2000 -- it was matt schlapp, who mentioned him by name, and rick was grannel, essential ian internet troll elevated by the trump administration. they repeated the comments and said there was massive voter fraud, and matt invoked kirk hartle's name, as the canary in the coal mine. essentially as the poster boy for voter fraud. and now it has all collapsed. for voter >> now that it has co, has there been any reckoning at all? i wouldn't expect it from anyone like ambassador grenell.
but within the republican party particularly because they use this to hype this idea nationally, but to use this as the basis for advocating for voter restrictions in nevada? has there been any reckoning around the fact that the pretext they created this false? >> sounds of silence, rachel, they have not said a word and by the way, if any of them had any integrity whatsoever, or weren't tendency sly trying to create this atmosphere to put those restrictions in place, rachel, they would have apologize for foisting this fraud on the public. the big question to me, of course, is what did they know and what they -- when did they know it? this guy was essentially fabricating this. believe me, he is getting off relatively easy, with the sentence there, because the case is essentially circumstantial. that, is it didn't actually see him cast the ballot but they
had evidence, i am told, my sources tell me, on video and some text messages, in which they have the guy pretty cold. and so adam lacks all, rick grenell, matt matt schlapp, michael mcdowell, there have been crickets, since this decision came out. and then the decision was imposed today. >> jon ralston, founder of the nevada independent, an indispensable source for america on all things we are divided politics. jon ralston, thank you for being here. >> you bet. we have much more to come tonight, thank you. tonight, thank you ttle wrinkly, that's a whole lot of wrinkly. there are wrinkles on top of wrinkles! how do you even let your clothes get that wrinkled? how?! at least my shoes look good!
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which means the defendants get the return. and since so many of the white supremacists and neo-nazis are representing their selves, or serving as their own lawyers, that means today was day one. of us all being treated to a spectacle of literally hottest holocaust deniers and white supremacist asking themselves questions, and then answering their own questions in the courtroom. there are cross and examining themselves about their own beliefs. the plan is for closing arguments to start on thursday, and another extremely high profile trial in georgia. the prosecution today rested their case after eight days of testimony -- killing ahmaud arbery. and unarmed black 25-year-old man was killed while he was out for a jog in his neighborhood last year. prosecutors say arbery was murdered after being harassed and then chased down by the three men in their truck. you'll recall that one of the defense attorneys made headlines last week for all the wrong reasons, when he protested the presence of reverend al sharpton in the
courtroom there, support for the family, saying quote, we don't want any more black pastors coming in here. today that attorney was added again, he told the court that he had filed a motion to quote, prohibit any further conduct that may intimidate or influenced jurors the very presence of black. pastors is intimidating and cause for a mistrial? we'll see how that works out. tomorrow, the defense will begin presenting its case to the jurors in the ahmaud arbery trial. but meanwhile, tonight, all eyes are on kenosha, wisconsin, we're awaiting a verdict in the kyle wynne house trial. he's accused of killing two men and injuring a third at a police pathology -- following the police shooting of a man named jacob blake. the jury got the cost today, they started deliberating, the judge dismissed two -- had initially been facing. the most serious charge rittenhouse faces is intentional homicide, that comes with a mandatory life sentence. but the jury left for tonight without reaching a verdict,
they deliberated for over eight hours, they are due back in court tomorrow. with arguments inside the courtroom over, all of kenosha, all of wisconsin, and in some ways all of the country is basically brave staying for what this verdict is going to be, what the reactions are going to be. -- in anticipation for the verdict. today, he urged peace in kenosha. whatever the verdict is that the jury ends up delivery, it there's almost certain it's going to be a strong response from the public, whichever way it goes. joining us now from kenosha is nbc news correspondent -- shaq is at the course where the jury has been deliberating today, he's been on the story from the beginning. when that kenosha officer shot and injured jacob blake. chuck thank you so much for joining us tonight, i know this is all coming together, and it's been a long haul. definitely the case, rachel, no problem at all. i'll tell you the courtroom houses pretty quiet now, but it was much early different earlier today. when you had some protesters, people who were both defending rittenhouse and people who were
-- calling on his of conviction. you had been gathered outside the courthouse. but inside the courthouse we saw the jury and we finally got an idea of the official makeup that the jury is deliberating. and now in our eight of deliberations, they broke for the night, they'll begin day to deliberations tomorrow. but we know that makeup includes seven women and five men. out of that entire jury, one person identifies as being a person of color, a man. and this is a county that is about 87% white, so it's fairly representative of the entire county, and of this community. but you mentioned that this is a case that so many people are watching incredibly closely, and that is definitely the case. i spoke to the brother of jacob blake, remember this is the protest, he was the man who was shot by a could no-show police officer back in august and that's the protests that that led to this shooting that is now leaked to the trial of kyle wright in-house. he said that he is watching
this closely. he says that it was the closing arguments that made him more creditable about this, but he knows and he's praying and hoping for that conviction. but he knows there's a high bar that the prosecution has to clear, and that is what many people are thinking right now, that's what they're watching. as jury deliberations now extend to that second day, rachel? >> check with the governor calling up the national guard, and we know among other things from your reporting, about small business owners in the area preparing for the worst, people worrying about how the public might respond when the verdict is announced either way. it makes me wonder about leadership, community leadership. on all sides of this issue. some of the ways that, some of the things that you look to in order to try to predict whether or not things are going to be peaceful and constructive, in terms of people expressing themselves. is whether or not there's community leadership that is there to guide people and link people to be constructive, and not violent. are you seeing evidence of that?
as people are yelling at each other, and facing off, and taking different sides of this issue, that there are responsible parties among them trying to guide this in a nonviolent way. >> you do, and that's something that even existed back in last august, after the shooting. where you had pastors, members of the religious community coming together and calling for that calm. we do know that members and leaders of the religious communities have been gathering and praying over the deliberations, praying over this trial, calling for that calm. you mentioned comments from the political leaders as well, the governor -- if you're not in kenosha, do not travel to kenosha. that is their, and that is definitely a presence there. you mentioned the businesses, and the business owners that we've been talking to. they've gone through a lot over the past year. and you have some businesses deciding to board back up with the idea that this verdict is coming any moment now. but, despite that, they are saying that they are hoping that things remain calm. and rachel, from the feeling on
the ground, i've talked about the protesters that have been at the steps of this courthouse throughout the deliberations, and even in the closing arguments phase of this trial, it's been relatively muted. and the media presents has far outnumbered anything that you saw from the protesters or heard from them here as well. so, there is a balance that you see there, there is an underlying tension you, get a sense that people are watching this closely. but you don't have that hostility, there is not that level of real concern that has been expressed or being seen, or reason for concern that we've seen just yet, rachel. >> it's a hopeful note there, nbc news correspondent shaquille -- shaquille i hereby urge you to go somewhere warm and indoors. i know that it's a cold night in kenosha. thanks for being with us, i really appreciate it my friend, thank you. >> you got it. >> we'll be right back, stay with us. >> we'll be right back, stay with us. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪
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needs a majority to pass, democrats are in the majority in the house. once it passes, they will remove paul gosar from his feet on the house oversight committee. it should be noted it -- alongside a -- he'll also be stripped of his seat on the committee of natural resources. once he's off those committees, those will leave hubs with no committee assignments, which will leave him nothing to do. another thing to keep an eye on tomorrow, alongside that vote on congressman goes our is the sentencing tomorrow, of capital rioter jacob chansley, came to be known as a qanon shaman. you remember remember him as the guy running around the capitol with a six foot spear and a four hat. the justice department is asking the court to send him to prison for more than four years. they're asking for more than 51 once in prison for him if the just accepts, the recommendation that would make him -- that would give him the longest sentence of any january six
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