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last-minute christmas shopping? >> all your christmas gifts can be solved right there. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour, starts now. data good evening once again, i'm ali. day 335 of the biden administration. at the white house is grappling with soaring 30 omicron 19 cases. we start tonight with the breaking news that omicron is now officially the dominant covid strain in the united states. the associated press with this reporting. the cdc numbers shot nearly a
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six fold increase in omicron's share of infections in only one week. it's responsible for an estimated 90% of new infections in the new york area, the southeast, the industrial midwest and the pacific northwest. president biden met with this covid response team and has a major address planned for tomorrow. the white house today revealing that biden himself has tested negative after coming into contact with the stuff member who contracted the virus. in the statement, the white house said on friday, that staff member had spent approximately 30 minutes in proximity to the president on air force one. the staff member is fully vaccinated and boosted and tested negative prior to boarding. the statement went on to say that the staff member didn't experience symptoms until sunday. he was tested on monday. we reminiscent of the early 2020, east our's long lines are forming in new york city as people prepare for the holiday gatherings. they are bracing for a heavy
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travel season. passengers are expected between now and the new year. doctor fauci had this advice for celebrations. >> do not do things like go to gatherings where there are people who you do not know what their vaccination status is. if you do that and some people are even going the extra step or the extra mile of maybe even getting tested when you have people coming over the house. >> in the nation's capital today, democrats are scrambling to salvage the presidents agenda after west virginia, joe manchin, announced in the bluntest terms possible that he would not vote for build back better. the white house came out with an uncharacteristically strong statement in response which read in part, just as senator manchin reversed his position on build back better this morning, we will continue to press him to see if he will reverse his position yet again to honor his part commitments and be true to his word. >> manchin was quick to blame the white house staff for the
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breakdown in negotiations. >> i just got to the wits and, and they know the real reason what happened. they won't tell, you and i'm not going to tell. you it's a stuff driven. i understand the, stuff it's not the president, it's the. stuff and they drove some things and they put some things out there that are absolutely inexcusable. they know what it is and that's it. >> nbc news confirms that manchin and biden did speak on the phone last night. two sources saying that they agreed to keep the doors open to continue negotiations. this was vice president kamala harris on those prospects in the new interview with cbs news. >> so you don't feel betrayed? >> no, i don't have any personal feelings about this. this is about getting the job done. >> how do you do that without senator manchin? >> you don't give up. that's how we do it. >> we have updates tonight on the investigation as well into the january 6th attack on the capitol. the january six committee is requesting information from republican congressman, scott perry of pennsylvania.
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this is the first requests from the city member of congress. in a letter to perry, chairman bennie thompson wrote that the committee has received, quote, evidence from multiple witnesses that you had an important role in the efforts to install jeffrey clark as acting attorney general. and that he sent communications to the former chief of staff using the encrypted signal app. now, if you aren't familiar with scott perry. here's an idea of what the pennsylvania congressman has done in his time in congress. he is the incoming leader of the freedom caucus and led efforts to overturn pennsylvania's electoral vote for joe biden. he voted against awarding congressional gold medals to the officers who defended the capitol on january six. and he is one of 18 house members to vote against the resolution condemning the conspiracy theory group, qanon. meanwhile, the new york times is reporting that the january six committee is examining if there is a enough evidence to send criminal referrals to the justice department for donald trump. the times reports, quote,
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investigated for the committee are looking into whether a range of crimes were committed including two in particular. whether there were wire fraud by republicans who raised millions of dollars off assertions that the election was stolen despite knowing the claims were not true. and whether mr. trump and his allies obstructed congress by trying to stop the certification of electoral votes. with all that, let's bring in our lead off guests on this monday night. courtney, white house correspondent for usa today. a.b. stoddard, as a veteran washington journalist and associate editor and columnist for real clear politics. and former united states attorney, joyce, vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. she hosts the podcast sisters in law along with kimberly atkins, joe wine-banks and barbara mcquade. good evening, thanks for joining us tonight. what is the level in fear and concern in the white house and for in terms of stuff.
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>> it is really incredible timing for the president as you mentioned he is set to deliver remarks tomorrow about the latest strategies on covid. as you mentioned, he tested negative yesterday. he tested negative today. he will be tested again on wednesday. but we will continue with his daily schedule because the cdc guidance doesn't require fully vaccinated individuals to quarantine after an exposure. and i think that underscores a point that we will hear him make tomorrow. and it's even if you're vaccinated, even if you are boosted you could get covid. but that is the best form of protection against hospitalization and deaths. if you are vaccinated the symptoms are likely to be mild. and that is a message that he is only going to drive from tomorrow. it's a shift from earlier this where when we saw the white house emphasized the breakthrough cases are rare. they are very much prepared for
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cases to surge. they already are in some areas as you mentioned. omicron has become the more dominant variant. but the messaging is about emphasizing where to prevent hospitalization and that's. and the way to do that is vaccinating the 40 million adults who have been resistant to it so far. it is at home rapid tests. it is more access to free testing. and i think we will hear the white house addressed that tomorrow. how they will plan to step up efforts to make testing more available. and how they plan to help overburdened hospitals ahead of this expected winner search. but i think that you will also hear him emphasize that we are not where we were in march 2020. even though we are seeing these familiar images of long lines at testing centers and drive-through testing centers, we will hear the president really emphasized that people are vaccinated. and it is about using the tools
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that are available to them to prevent the more severe cases as we learn to cope with this pandemic. >> it is interesting, a. b., courtney's point, looking at images of long lines. you didn't have long lines for testing because the president at the time was against the idea of testing. he thought the numbers would drop. we certainly didn't have a vaccine. and yet, all of these threatened to cast a shadow over a second straight holiday season. and people get frustrated with. it how does the administration manage this because of the frustration that we are seeing and the fears that people have about possible shutdowns? >> i think tomorrow night he has to calm their -- fears and speak to their fears. but also to address those frustrations. it is critical that he addressed the facts. he will not use those words but the poor access to tests.
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the facts that rapid tests are no longer available, these things should have been available to us in june of 2020. and because of donald trump's opposition and contempt for protesting, we didn't. this is a year and a half later. we are well into the biden administration of the way into his term. and we have terrible testing capacity. this is the kind of thing that is going to help americans navigate during holiday season. to navigate the variant as transmissible as omicron. this is something that he is going to have to acknowledge. we are not where we were a year ago, it is not a scary, but people can avoid spreading this around by taking precautions. they should get tested. the government is also going to act with the private sector to fix the testing section of the people. we need to slowly pull down the
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spread of this contagious new variant. >> and two courtney subramanian, we just had the new york times come in with the news from the nhl. it is pausing its games for the remainder of the year. not the hockey season, so for canadians and hockey fans don't worry there should be a hockey season. but for the moment, it means there are no games for the remainder of the week. joyce alene vance, i have to ask you about the progress of the january six committee making they have subpoenaed a sitting member of congress. a lot of people thought that he was the chief of staff to the president during january six. but more importantly, when people disobey the subpoenas that they are getting, the committee has started making referrals to the department of justice, criminal referrals. and one of them at least has resulted in an arrest. what is the thinking around that? the committee is unable to do certain things but they are recruiting the justice department to do the things that they can't get done. getting people to come forward and talk.
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that is part of the awkward position caucuses in here. they do not technically have the ability to enforce their own subpoenas without help from the justice department and the courts. but this committee is nonetheless binding a plethora of signals to how serious it is. this request to congressman as you pointed out, the first request has been made to a sitting member to provide information demonstrates seriousness. both because it comes in the week of christmas and because it was asked for the opportunity to meet with him before january. indicating that they are willing to travel to his district. this is in order to get his testimony. so process wise the signals their seriousness. but also the topic itself is one of the extremes of concerns. we first brought to the attention mark meadows, the lower level employee at doj who
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at this point in time had become the acting head of the civil division. but it is perry who put forward jeffrey clark saying that this is someone who is on our side and who we could have take over the justice department. the committee is very interested in getting the details. and it signals to me that they are not talking to principles like jeffrey clark and congressman perry. that they have said enough of the groundwork talking to other witnesses who were around those conversations. who would've been able to provide them with some of the details that the committee is far enough and willing to question the principles. they would not simply take a run at them if they didn't know much about what they expected to have listed in that testimony. >> you often make that point the prosecutors and the committee think about these things well in advance. it is not a fishing expedition to by the fact that people think it. is courtney, we'll talk about president biden. he's going to be speaking to
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the country tomorrow. one of these very successful ways of getting people vaccinated in this country have been the rules that the administration has put up for companies unemployed people. but it's been a lightning rod for the right. it is something that they hate. does joe biden go up the celebrating and talk about? or does he avoid the talk of shutdowns altogether? >> we heard from white house press secretary, jen psaki, really emphasize that this is a speech that will not be about mocking -- locking the country back down. he said that today. and i do think that we won't hear the president emphasize restrictions or vaccine mandates or testing mandates. but we really want to try to talk about the tools that are already available right now. and you are right. some of those restrictions that he put in place earlier this fall are going to help the
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administration break through the plateau of vaccinated 60% of u.s. adults. as we see some of the court battles play out with some of those roles, we are going to see the president try and talk about ways in which americans can cope with the pandemic. and as you mentioned earlier, testing is going to be a part of that. because this is a country that is very pandemic where. people are heading home for the holidays. we're only a few days until christmas. people are crossing the country and the last thing they want to do is talk about more restrictions and mandates. i do not think will hear the president talk about anything with any regard to restrictions tomorrow. >> a b stoddard, yesterday morning, joe manchin went on fox news and said that he is not voting for the build back
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better deal. chuck schumer has said that he is going to hold a vote on this in the senate. a vote that he is, at this point, almost certain to lose. what is the point? i think that the leader is frustrated with the fact that these negotiations have gone on so long and ultimately seemed to have made everyone disappointed. the announcement that the senator made on fox was disappointing. he put something up that was going to fill. he has put vulnerable members in an even worse position than they are in today. maybe he will change his mind in the weeks to come over the holidays. but it is not wise to get
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deeper into the hole of the strategists who are running these campaign respective's. they are hoping that something that joe manchin can agree to full materialize in 2022. and they can call it a win no matter what it is. but the idea that bringing something up that you know is going to fill, such as joe manchin is doing in parts of the bill, just continues the family inviting the democratic party increasing the intention and impede the future negotiations that they hope to get back to in january. >> joyce alene vance, i want to ask you about all the places that you are leading to. the idea that the january six committee has some sense of what they are going to get when the invite somebody to give them evidence.
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they kind of know where they are going to. what is the likelihood of reaching donald trump? about something that might even look like a criminal referral involving the former president? >> i suppose that that is the ultimate question that we are all trying to figure out the answer to. on the one hand, this is awfully simple. we all saw the events of january six happened in front of us. we watched trump ruling before the election and suggesting that he won't abide by the results that he lost. we watched the big lie as it was perpetuating. it seems relatively clear that there is least efficient evidence of the justice department to have opened an investigation in several areas where criminality may have occurred. on the other hand though, the reality of that has been very elusive. the attorney general has managed to stay silent on this top. he has come in for a lot of disparaged over the. and frankly there is absolutely no evidence that the over
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justice department is investigating donald trump. and similarly there is no evidence that the justice department isn't investigating in the best traditions of the justice department. they have remained frustratingly opaque. but the more evidence that congress uncovered in its work, the more the situation for the doj changes. and if in fact doj is not actively engaged in how referred the former president from a bipartisan committee. we could do two things. it can both nudge the department if the committee has developed sufficient evidence that makes it really unattainable for doj to fail to engage. no matter how hesitant they are. there can be a little bit of a nudge factor. and at the same point, getting a referral from a bipartisan committee could also provide doj with a little bit of cover. that set, the doj certainly is not obligated to follow through on congressional referrals.
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an often when they have the appearance of being political or just amateur requests, doj feels completely at ease ignoring them. >> thank you to the three of you. it has been the satisfying feeling when you lead the cliffsnotes to the 700 page that you need to cover before an exam. courtney subramanian, a b stoddard, and joyce alene vance, i really appreciate your time tonight. coming up tonight, one of the world's top vaccine experts is here to answer a key question about omicron. how long will this search last? and should we be worried about long covid. later our political experts react to the growing fury against senator joe manchin. but is it really such a big surprise? the 11th hour, getting underway on a monday night. on a monday night.
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it's not even december of 2020. they are not comparable to what we went through. we did not have vaccinations and boosters and the knowledge we have now. we have to meet this moment with action and not fear but also mean into the strength we know we have. and then we will get through this. >> merrick state reported more than 23,000 new infections today, breaking a single day record of new cases for a fourth straight day, harris county texas has reported the first omicron related death in the united states. officials there said the patient was in his 50s, with underlying health conditions, and was unvaccinated. cdc data shows omicron is now the dominant variant in the united states. health experts warn the unvaccinated remain at higher risk. >> our hospitals are largely full of people who are unvaccinated. are vaccinated and boosted people, are 20 times less likely to die, that are unvaccinated people.
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unvaccinated people are dying at 20 times the rate of people who are boosted. >> back with us, now doctor peter hotez, he's a vaccine scientist working with a team to develop a low-cost covid-19 vaccine for global distribution. peter has been working on covid vaccine long before the rest of us knew there was covid, he's the co-director for the center for vaccine development the texas children's hospital. in the dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. peter thank you for being with us tonight. i want to ask you about trends, including in south africa, where we first learned about. this rapid uptick in then there's been a slowing of it. we are seeing the number, all of us know people who have now been infected, who have been vaccinated and boosted. in some cases three injections, and they're still getting this. thing is there some sense that the speed of which this comes in, may indicate the speed at which slows down? >> that would be nice when the. then we can get back to some sort of no resemblance of life
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again, it's hard really to predict, for instance we've seen different patterns, in the southern united states. we had a pretty long uptick, and then it went down rather quickly over the fall, but in the uk it's still continue to remain. delta went down about halfway, that continue to plateau for a long time. exactly why certain parts of the world, i have peaks behaving differently, we don't entirely understand. the bottom line is we're in for a tough few weeks. as doctor fauci and others have pointed. out not only because of the omicron rise, but also because we have dealt with this wet as. well a lot of people are still getting sick with delta. all that that will eventually transition over. for me, the biggest concern that i'm watching, is the fact that these searches are occurring at a time when lots and lots of health care workers, are starting to get sick with breakthrough covid. even after getting boosted. there are a couple of months
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out after their boosts. the data from england suggest that that level of protection against symptomatic illness, goes out around 30 to 40%. what that means is, we will have a lot of health care workers falling out sick. not getting very sick, but sick enough to be a home. so they are not in the workforce, that creates a very dangerous combination, as we've seen over and over again in the last two, years that punch of surge on top of depleted health care workforce, that's when mortality goes up. this is going to be the most important thing i'm looking forward in the presidents remarks, tomorrow is how he's going to deal with large absences in the health care workforce. in light of this surge that shirt to come over the next few weeks. >> you and i were together in february of 2020, when this first started, we were first talking about, this we have course didn't have therapeutics, and we didn't have a, vaccine than you and i were together on december 13, on the day that we first got vaccines, now we've
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got vaccines, we've got some therapeutics, they're certainly on the horizon, and we still have test and trace, tell me how this all shakes down for you over the course of the next month. how do you think we use this effectively to try to get a handle on this? >> the vaccines are still our mainstay in this. we know that we can largely prevent hospitalization and death if we can get people fully vaccinated, and then boosted. that's problem number one. what we're doing about 60% of the country, is fully immunized, i really don't considered fully immunized till they've gotten the boosted, and that's only about a third that's been boosted as well, i think really trying to convince people to understand that they need that third immunization, to elevate their antibodies to keep them out of the hospital, in the intensive care, unit that's gotta be top priority, the diagnostics. we still talk about diagnostics like it's march of 2020, you
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see the lions sneaking around diagnostic testing. whether it's or in houston or in new york, we still have not made it easy to get diagnostic testing and the therapeutics, that stems forward one step back, monoclonal antibodies we were pretty excited about. but it's looking like possibly two of the monoclonal antibodies may not be effective against this omicron variant. and as a consequence, we don't really we're sort of back to square one, we have one monoclonal antibody that will be effective, we have a good drug out of pfizer, but we don't have enough of it. it's just being scaled up, how much of an impact it will have in time for this wave, it's hard to say. clearly, things are much better than they were a year ago. especially with regard to the vaccines, but we still have a lot of other places that we have to look for, i'm really worried about the depletion of the health care workforce. >> and the british study that
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you cited, and there was another study out of germany, that indicates that the antibodies created by the virus drop off, fairly significantly after a few months. boosters may become a regular, thing or a new variations of the vaccine. who is supposed to change the definition of what fully vaccinated sounds? likes right now in america, fully vaccinated as one shot of johnson & johnson, or two of the mrna. >> i still don't understand why we cling to that, that definition that just doesn't apply any longer. one change of the definition, the other thing i think we have to look for, is innovative solutions to keep our health care workforce in the workforce, if that data from the uk stands our vaccine effectiveness, even after the third dose gives symptomatic illness, it still holding up against severe illness, it still holding up against symptomatic, it goes down from 70 to 75% after you get the boost, down to half of that 30 to 40%, we'll just have
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to many health care workers falling out sick, and so the one question that i have asked, in the los angeles times over the, weekend is should we give them a fourth immunization, the second, booster least offer it to them, so they have the option, in order to raise up their virus neutral, and get the antibodies, and keeps them in the workforce, for that short period of time. i made that recommendation. we will at least look into it and see if what the presidents remarks are tomorrow. i kind of doubt, it but i think it's something worth considering. >> you health care workers have been our frontline and our protectors and our defenders and our savior since the beginning of this thing. it would be hard to see losing some of these people. not just from the workforce possibly because they're exhausted by. it because they should not be happening right now. peter, thanks as always for joining, us doctor peter hotez, probably one of the smartest on this topic.
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our political experts are here to talk about the bumpy road ahead when the 11th hour continues. when the 11th hour continues.
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senator manchin could not be trusted. the excuses that he just gave, i think our complete crap. it is disheartening, to hear him say, that he has been
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trying to get their, for the people of west virginia. because that's a complete lie. >> minnesota congresswoman, not mincing words with me yesterday, when i asked her about joe manchin's no on the build back better act. manchin reportedly did extend a counter offer proposal that excluded several biden's priorities, but without the child tax credit provision. the senator was often quoted as saying he wasn't sure if he could go back home, and explain a vote for build back better. but critics point out that he now has to explain to more than 180,000 west virginia families, why he publicly walked away from talks to extend the popular child tax credit, we welcome back to the show. when eta, progressive -- former george w. bush's strategist and founder of country over party, good evening to both of you. there's a lot of places i want to start. there's a lot to cover.
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one of the things, is that we've now heard, people relate, that joe manchin has made comments about paid leave, suggesting that people might go hunting, with their time that they're given, although every other country in the world recognizes paid family leave, medical leave. and that people with the child credit, might use it for drugs. that sort of an 80s trip to me. >> exactly right. it's the welfare that was targeting black and brown communities, that relied on government existence to make ends meet. yet here manchin, is ruling that right on out. and something about hunting trips? it just shows his lack of awareness, his lack of empathy, his lack of compassion, for people who are in need. at the same exact moment when he says he recognizes that people are paying more for basic goods. that people are paying more due to inflation, yet he does not want to do anything about it. i appreciate you emphasizing, in reporting, that talks about
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the 305,000 children that directly benefit from this. when he's out here talking about he can't break that down, he can't explain why that 200 $300 a month's help, for away elder care, or why aid for families, or universal pre-k's health care helpful for families in children, it makes no sense. especially if it's backed up by him privately spewing these racist tropes, that we know are unproductive unhelpful. honestly, i look at this entire few days, as literally a millionaire senator having a temper tantrum, because someone at the white house made him upset. and this was his move. if anybody had any question about his character. you have the last two days to look at, to really come up which you think about as senator manchin at this point. >> the widely publicized complain about someone, or staff in some fashion, did strike me as a little unusual. what did not strike me unusual, is that this is joe manchin. joe manchin, knows he has a lot
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of power right now. and maybe the best way to get what he wants, is to continue to say no to, people are you surprised that this is where we've ended the year, with joe manchin? >> not at all, not in the least, we can spend the next three days, beating up on joe manchin, he who fancies himself a mr. smith goes to washington, but he is really more of a senator pain in that movie, in the character in that movie. who he thinks he is. he has to decide for himself, when he looks in the mirror, what his integrity. isn't he has to face the voters of west virginia. i think there's two fundamental problems here that have nothing to do with joe manchin. and the problem is, is that you have a coach of a football team, at the given analogy, a sports analogy, you have a coach of a football team, some assistant coaches, and a bunch of other players whose only play, only singular play, was a post pattern to joe manchin. a player who did not want to run the pattern. who is ripped into play the game, who made --
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that was their only play, they're only play of the coach to get this done, was somebody that has been telling them, he didn't really want to run the play. and so the fault, yes joe manchin should be held responsible, but in the end, it's why is your only playing getting this done, dependent on a player, who doesn't want to play? that's the first problem. the second is, there's still operating in washington d.c., too many democrats in my, view as if we are still in a functional democracy. as if we're still operating like we did ten years, ago or 20 years, ago or 30 years ago. this is a new world where. and in the plays in all the ways used to deal with senators and all of. that is done. our democracy, the fact that one senator can do this is evidence, that our democracy -- first the administration should be faulted that their only play was this, play and it didn't turn out. anybody could've probably guess that it would've turned out this way. and secondly, quick operating
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on a set of rules and practices, that no longer exist. >> you make the point that democracy is in peril in this country, and that is a good place to break. i want to have that conversation with you on the other side. juanita and matthew are staying with, this coming, up the latest twist in the investigation into january. six lawmakers now want to question one of their own, about efforts to use the justice department, to support the big lie. justice department, to support the big lie. the big lie. crest, the official toothpaste of santa. follow us @crest to celebrate the 12 days of crest smiles.
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now the january six committee wants to ask him about recorded plans, to elevate jeffrey clark to the position of attorney general. perry might be the first elected official to come under public scrutiny, from the select committee. but likely won't be the last. as we mentioned, the new york times reports whether they're weighing the recommend the justice department to pursue a criminal case against donald trump. matthew, there are a lot of people in this country who want to know scott perry. he's the incoming head of the freedom caucus, he voted against giving the afghan translators funding, you voted against -- congressional medals to the police, who defended the capitol on january six. he devoted against the certification of the election, no surprise that he was involved in this thing. but he's actually been subpoenaed at this point. what do you expect to happen? >> what's my expectation and what's my hope? let me start with, i hope i'm hoping that he's held accountable. this is a guy that should be
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put in the same list as benedict arnold was put on. and i would add a whole bunch of other representatives and senators to that same list. to that benedict arnold top ten list. basically they're not patriots, they should not serving congress. perry should not be a congressman, he should not be allowed to serve. because of his disdain for the constitution of the united states in our democracy. and this i, hope he's held accountable. my expectation, because of what you have seen over the last year, i've become a little jaded, because we are a year out from january, six and no person that is instigated this that is push, this that is involved in, this that is held some kind of office, has been held accountable yet. a bunch of the small facial been held accountable, none of the big vision but held accountable. as we get closer to decisions being made, i hope it happens. but so far, if experiences any idea about moving forward, i don't have a lot of expectation the big fish will be held
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accountable. juanita, they haven't subpoenaed scott parried, they have eventually written him a very nice letter. they have written him a nice letter saying that if they need us to come to your district. we'll come and talk to you there. usually we think we know about you we need your information. but the way that these go, somebody says, no than the issue a subpoena. then somebody says. no then they vote on whether to make it a criminal referral. then the house votes on. it then it goes to the justice department. sometimes it works and results in a arrest warrant. juanita, what is a way to get to merrick garland? because in one way he needs to take this on himself. he doesn't want to see joe biden's attorney general, but there's some people who think that maybe the justice department needs to use its teeth to get these people to testify. >> i feel like yes you are right in saying that it's an escalation. and where garland has to wait for the illustration process. i think it also applies to when the select committee wraps up its investigation and makes recommendations for criminal actions and referrals to the
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doj. merit garland has showed that he is going to stand back as much as people want him to move faster. as much as i want him to move faster with this. he is going to stand back and allow congress to continue its investigation before jumping in to get this across the finish line. in terms of what the public is looking for of accountability. what matches him describe accountability. because that is what it comes down to. i think to preview that we saw last week in what the text messages and list cheney is asking the question is if there was a violation from trump to interfere and obstruct congressional business. that is what is going to come down to. and that is when merrick garland is going to get involved. because even though these folks are pleading the fifth and filing lawsuits against the select committee, they are still getting their hands on hand written note. they are still hearing from hundreds of other witnesses who are implicating them just as you described in the letter from chairman thompson. they are saying, hey, we know you did all of this stuff. we know you are included in all of this. now here's your chance to speak
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for yourself before we move forward. i think that is what the select committee is coming out. and you can expect him to continue to roll out more information and more debt to the public as we go into the next year. >> matthew dowd, a lot of fair minded people just don't follow this as closely also fear of us do. they're wondering to themselves, what is this. for what this is january committee. for what are we learning that we didn't already know. what are we achieving that wasn't achieved in the second impeachment? but it strikes me that we are learning a great deal more we sort of knew what is happening on pennsylvania avenue. we didn't know in as much detail what people on the other and we're doing. what they knew, who paid for, what what they were actually planning to do and it's starting to come into sharper relief now. >> i agree with that, and i think no matter how jaded i might be about my expectations, i actually think the pursuit of the truth and our democracy is in the very port and part of this. i think there is a vast amount
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of people out there that are ignoring this and worried about the christmas holiday. wondering what is going on. and they also think anytime somebody mentioned something awful and having somebody to blame, they ignored until real evidence confronts them in the face. and then they have to deal with. it and i know that you've made this point ever since you've been on this on january six. i think the administration and all of us and every single person has to constantly bring every single issue back to the peril of our democracy. every single time we talk about anything, the economy, covid, everything. all of those things are related to whether or not our democracy is healthy in this. and so i think as we go forward and as these hearings become more public and more evident than the public will begin to pay more attention to this and understand how their lives will be affected by the loss of this 240 year experiment that we
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call democracy. >> from your lips to the voters ears. matthew dowd thank. you juanita tolliver, matthew dowd, i think you so much for being here. democracy is the underlying issue here. as you prepare for company, lots of company, despite the latest surge in covid. that story when the 11th hour continues. continues. pirin capsule clinically shown to cause fewer ulcers than plain aspirin. vazalore is designed to help protect... releasing aspirin after it leaves your stomach... where it is absorbed to give you the benefits of life saving aspirin... to help prevent another heart attack or stroke. heart protection with your stomach in mind. try new liquid-filled vazalore. aspirin made amazing! as we mentioned, it took just a
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few weeks for the omicron variant to become the dominant strain in the united states as it is. now despite the latest search, tens of millions of us are about to travel to see family and friends for the holidays. nbc news, tom costello has a preview of what to expect at the airport. >> despite long lines and little elbow room, americans are already packing airports and planes. usually soldier to shoulder. >> we are not concerned at all actually. we felt pretty good everywhere we've gone. >> but experts caution only the
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vaccinated and boosted should be safe vaccinated traveling right now. >> if you aren't vaccinated, you are in a very vulnerable place with omicron. >> have a good day thank. you >> mask still required by law. those southwest airline ceo told congress last, week a plane so frustrations do the. job >> i think the case is very strong that masks don't add much if anything in the air cabin environment. >> the next day, he tested positive for covid. he now says he misspoke and south with fully supports the mandate. the tsa suspect 30 million passengers between now and january 3rd. approaching even exceeding, 2019 passenger levels at some airports. >> they are setting records for passenger traffic. and 1000 flights at 150,000 passengers every day. >> we have built quite a
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significant flights. >> the american airlines ramped our, today, juggling more than 700 flights on the ground in miami. >> where are they going? do they have enough fuel? do they have enough carry during? do they have any air traffic to keep an eye out on? >> a critical launch pad as a critical week takes off. >> well our thanks to correspondent tom costello for that coming up. what you need to know about the numerous residents of resident of the white house. the white house don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪
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>> hey pal. how are you doing? how are you? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ white house says that the three and a half month old puppy was actually a birthday gifts from biden's brother and sister in law. he is a german shepherd just like the other two dogs that the bidens brought to the white house this year. there was 13 year old, champ, who sadly passed away in june. and major, who now lives with family friends in delaware after a couple of aggressive incidents at the white house. they were wondering when the bidens will fulfill their promise to bring a cat to the white house. first lady confirmed that a female cat will be joining the bidens in the white house in january. but for now, a new little puppy with some adorable-y big heirs will be commanding all the attention. that is our broadcast for this monday night. with our thanks for being with us on behalf of all of our colleagues at the network of nbc news.
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goodnight. tonight on all in. as the january six investigation continues. former generals raise alarm about another insurrection. one of those former generals joins me live tonight. then, new york city health commissioner on what may be promising data on omicron, and the importance of getting the word out on boosters. >> did you get the booster? >> yes. >> i got it. to >> know, don't, don't, don't. >> and what may be the hope for build back better on what they support. >> i do not believe that the situation is beyond repair but it is going to take a different kind of thinking to get out of it than it did to get into it. >> when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm


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