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tomorrow, attorney general merrick garland is due to give a speech about the progress, the justice department has made in prosecuting crimes that took place at the capitol on january six last year. as you can imagine, there's been a lot of anticipation about the speech. particularly to the question of whether the justice department is only going to prosecute low-level people or whether they will actually bring prosecutions against anybody who defies and tried to implement the overall plan to overthrow the government. nobody knows what the attorney general is going to say, but msnbc will carry that speech live when it happens tomorrow at 2:30 pm eastern. so watch this space. that's going to do it for us for now. i'll see you again tomorrow night and now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening rachel. that was an extraordinary interview with jamie raskin. there is obviously so much in that book and you presented both the book and his story so
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well. and of course, the threat to democracy that that book is all about. >> yes. i have to say that i know congressman jamie raskin gain a little bit and there is some members of congress who are kind of universally respected and they are held close. because of who they are as people. jamie raskin is one of those people. he is also just a wonderful human being and a wonderful example of a public servant. and for him to have both contributed so much to the country in particular over this last year but to have done so from the position of grief that he was in with losing his son, it is unthinkable. it's the type of a. spoke to him to be able to write about it and still be tree ching through that, i cannot fathom the strength and the depth of character that he has to be able to do. it i don't know anything like it. >> yes, it really is. and rachel, i for one, you
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could put me down as having extremely low expectations for learning anything important about what is going on in the justice department tomorrow. this is when the attorney general speaks. i got really low expectations. >> why did they say days in advance that he is going to give the speech. because he very easily could have -- they could've put it on in this morning notice to the justice department personnel that they have and nobody would -- but they put it out days in advance, raising expectations that he was going to say something other than, you know, platitudes. if he gets something against platitudes which he has done in the past not a serving any questions about the fate of the republic, i have to follow the justice department for at least structurally raising expectations by the advance notice. >> yes. and not to play the racing expectations game. but, you know rachel, millions of us think of you as the chair of cable news.
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but tonight rachel, cher is going to be the chair of table news when she joins us and gets the last word in this hour. so you will want to be comfortably in your pajamas watching the end of the show tonight. >> i heard that you are going to have cher on your show tonight. and i swear for the first moments that i heard that i thought it was a metaphor. i thought that you were having like, the cher story. or the cher example. i didn't realize that you are having the cher. you're amazing. how do you do these things? >> it was her return. she has been here once before. it was actually four years ago. so tonight, the part of cher in cable news will be played by cher. >> please tell her that i said hello and i love you. >> that is exactly how i'm going to begin.
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rachel says hello and i love you. >> thanks lawrence. >> thank you rachel. well, today in a letter to sean hannity, the house select committee investigating the january six committee -- revealed more of sean hannity's tax. to the trump white house chief of staff and congressman jim jordan and others. the committee is asking sean hannity to do the right thing. they are asking sean hannity to voluntarily testify about his, quote, communications with president trump, white house staff and president trump's legal team between december 31st, 2020 and january 20, 2021. everything that we know, everything that we now know about sean hannity's techs during that period demonstrates one thing. sean hannity was right. in every one of sean hannity's
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texts that have been released by the committee, sean hannity is right. including the first techs. the committee quoted today, written on new year's eve 2020 from sean hannity to donald trump's final white house chief of staff mark meadows. quote, we can't lose the entire white house counsel's office. i do not see january six happening the way he's said it is being told. after the six, he should announce he will lead the nationwide effort to reform voting integrity. go to fl and watch joe messed up daily. stay engaged. when he speaks people listen. reporting by bob woodward and robert costa in their book, peril, and by others indicate that around the time of that text the white house counsel along with most of the top officials in the justice department were threatened to
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quit if donald trump fired his acting attorney general and replaced him with jeffrey clark. he has been subpoenaed to testify to the committee about jeffrey clark's own ideas about how to illegally overturn the results of the election. sean hannity says, quote, i do not see january six happening the way he is being told. we know that at that time donald trump was being told the lie that vice president mike pence could simply reject electoral votes submitted to congress by any state. on new years eve, sean hannity was telling donald trump to go to fl. we know that in donald trump's tormented psyche that was the same as telling him to go to hell. the hell of living in florida. as a loser. on january 5th, the night before the trump mob violently attacked the capital and screamed their hope of killing
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mike pence, sean hannity texted i am very worried about the next 48 hours. it turns out sean hannity was right to be worried about the next 48 hours. the committee's letter says that they want to ask him, quote, why were you concerned about the next 48 hours? in another text on the evening of january 5th, the night before the attack on the capital, sean hannity said to mark meadows, quote, intense pressure. white house counsel will lead. in its letter the committee asked sean hannity a very simple question about that text. what precisely did you know at that time? the committee has interpreted some of the dozens of text messages that they have not released from sean hannity or to sean hannity to indicate that sean hannity, quote, may have a conversation directly where president trump on the evening of january 5th. and perhaps other time
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regarding his planning for january six. during the attack on the capitol in a text only released by the committee, sean hannity told mark meadows that donald trump should, quote, ask people to peacefully leave the capitol. sean hannity was right about that. after the attack on the capital, sean hannity was still worried about what donald trump might be thinking or might be planning. and sean hannity was worried that donald trump couldn't understand, could not comprehend the advice that sean hannity was giving him. shannon hannity does not give complicated advice. sean hannity is not difficult to understand. on january 10th, the inauguration date approached for january 20th, sean hannity on january 10th wrote to mark meadows and congressman jim jordan, quote, guys we have a clear path to land the plane in
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nine days. he can't mention the election again. ever. i did not have a good call with him today. and worse, i'm not sure what is left to do or say and i don't like not knowing if it's truly understood. ideas? shannon hannity was right. donald trump should never have mentioned the election again. and sean hannity was right to worry that donald trump could not comprehend any of that advice. sean hannity's tax, as released so far, show sean hannity repeatedly trying to get donald trump to do the right thing in that moment. the committee is now asking sean hannity to do the right thing. the committee's letter to sean hannity ends with this line.
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now is the time to step forward and serve the interest of your country. leading off our discussion tonight is daniel goldman, served as the house impeachment inquiry majority counsel for the first impeachment trial of donald trump. he's a former federal prosecutor. an msnbc legal contributor. and claire mccaskill, democratic senator from mitch zuri. at an msnbc political analyst. and a former prosecutor. senator claire mccaskill, let me begin with you. the reading of sean hannity's tex, as we have them so far indicate to me based on publicly available evidence that sean hannity is as far as we know donald trump's single wisest advisor in his presidency. everybody else working in the white house was working at some intelligence level below sean
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hannity. >> i think what the committee is doing is they are strategically releasing the quiet part out loud. and i think that liz cheney particularly has been focused on showing what the people around donald trump knew leading up to january six. i like to reference josh hawley, one year ago today he told everyone on fox news when he was asked point blank if donald trump will be president on january ten -- before the fund. he asked what would happen wednesday. so sean hannity was in this inner circle. he knew what was going on. he knew what was threatening to quit. he knew what donald trump had on his mind. and that was overthrowing the will of the american people to try and stay in power. and sean hannity knew that it was a big problem. and so did others around the
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president. but it didn't make any difference because donald trump was going to be donald trump. and that man holding on to power. >> david goldman, as you read this information today with the prosecutors i, what do you see in the flow of those text? >> i see a couple of things. i think they are starting to do now that they have obtained these documents is starting to slowly drip them out. so the public can get a sense of what the documentary evidence is. i don't think that they expect a ton of cooperation from sean hannity which is why they want to lay it all out in the letter. it puts a lot more pressure on him now that we all know that he was in the inner circle as claire mccaskill so rightly said. talking to mark meadows and having a good understanding of what was planned for january six. also what the discussions were, what the resistance was from
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the white house counsel's office. so, i think that we should expect to continue to see more and more of the documentary evidence. what we don't know is what the testimony from the witnesses have been. and that will likely come out in public hearings that my former boss, adam schiff, said would begin in as little as weeks. but no more than a month or two from now. so the committee is now starting to feel the pressure both on the witnesses but also on some of those who were involved. including members of congress and senators. they are starting to show that they have information and document jury information that puts a lot of these elected officials right in the center of this. it is not only showing us, the public, but it's also showing the department of justice to the extent that they are not
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aware of this evidence. >> senator claire mccaskill, i think it also shows how much this committee can accomplish without getting direct testimony from certain individuals. i am sure that this committee was never going to think about sending any kind of subpoena to sean hannity. but because sean hannity's techs ended up getting turned over in a pile of stuff from mark meadows, we now know what sean hannity was saying. we have sean hannity's testimony to some extent already. without sean hannity cooperating in anyway. i think people have been really frustrated. and i am one of them. this is going really slowly. particularly with the doj. they have been easy. and they have been busy giving the goods from a whole lot of people that many of us have never heard of. people who were afraid to not cooperate. or, fancy this idea, they are
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cooperating because they knew was the right thing to do. and they now have a lot of evidence which as daniel goldman understands clearly, and anybody who's been in a court room, once you have a lot of evidence that makes those hearings a lot more powerful. as you have testimony that you could tie them to. you have techs that you can tie them to. you have emails that you could tie them to. it will be a much more compelling case. right now lawrence, 750 people have been charged. but most americans have never heard of any of them. and that is what has gotten people frustrated. >> to that point, daniel goldman, the attorney general is going to make a speech tomorrow giving some kind of assessment about where the justice department is. its investigation of what happened at the capitol. what should we expect from that? what might we actually hear from that? >> i think that this is very clearly a targeted stage by the
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attorney general met to address what is going on with the investigation. not just of january six but of the lead up to january six. there are really three kinds of separate and overlapping investigations here. there is the ongoing investigation that clear referenced for the people being charged on invading the capitol on january six. the vast majority of those charges are really misdemeanor charges related to, you know, essentially walking into the capital with authority. then there is an investigation about obstructing the official proceeding in congress of counting of the electoral votes. that is a higher charge. and that is something that could arise out of the initial january six investigation. and it may also have an overlap to the coup that was
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unquestionably at this point, from we know, attempted. and that is a whole separate investigation. which is an investigation and effort to overturn the election. so, you really have three different threads of an overlapping investigation. and i think what we all want to know is, what is the department of justice looking at. we know they are looking at the january six investigation. are they investigating whether anyone can be charged or obstructing the official proceeding in congress? and perhaps most importantly, are they investigating anyone including an up to the president of the united states for trying to overturn the election? there are a couple different ways that that could be charged. i frankly think that is this important than whether this investigation is going on. we have not heard anything that
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it is going on. of course, it's possible that it's kept quiet. but i think it is very unlikely that even a witness would not lead to the press the here she has been asked for information or subpoenaed. it doesn't have to be a leak from the department of justice but the point is that we would likely know about it. and i think that we all want to know whether or not the attorney is investigating that into more speech. >> claire mccaskill, what should be here tomorrow? >> i heard you and rachel talking, and i couldn't agree with her more. i find it bizarre that they have previewed this speech to these ahead of time. they are telling everybody that this is a big deal. this was just an internal speech to the troops and it got some coverage, which it would. even if we found out about it the same day. everybody would cover this to some extent.
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but the fact that they're building this as a big speech, it better be. that's all i could say, merrick garland. it better be. >> claire mccaskill, gets the last word on this one. osita nwanevu but daniel goldman, thank you so much for starting us off, really appreciated. coming up, joe manchin met with chuck schumer on a small group of democratic senators working on voting right legislation to the. the senator was in the room and she will join us next. and she will explain what senator schumer's new promises on voting rights today they will meet in the senate. eet in the senate.
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across the country. we have [inaudible] replaced by legislation that basically says you cannot vote on weekends in the last month as senator warnock will tell you in georgia. >> that was the chair of the senate rules committee in a press conference with senate
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majority leader, chuck schumer, senator warnock, senator jeff merkley, today. senator schumer announced that he will try to change the rules of the senate to allow the senate to then have a vote on preserving voting rights in this country. >> if republicans continued to hijack the rules of the chamber to prevent actions on something as critical as protecting our democracy than the senate will debate and consider changes to the rules honored before january 17th, martin luther king day. >> later, that same group of senate democrats, including leader schumer and senator amy klobuchar, met with joe manchin. also among others to discuss voting rights and potential reforms to senate rules that all democrats can support. joining us now is democratic senator, amy klobuchar. she is the chair of the senate
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rules committee. and she was in the room, today, with joe manchin among others discussing the subject. senator, just word for word, what did joe manchin have to say? >> now lawrence. >> i had to try -- >> i cannot report to you would have been in that room but i will make to your viewers the case that i made to senator manchin and that i made to senator sinema as well. i will note that tim kaine drove 27-hour streak on bad freeway in virginia to get to that meeting. he went directly from his car to that meeting. and there are a lot of people who want to get this done. what i said to them is this. we have a situation where we saw what happened on january six but it didn't and there. since then, we have seen it coordinate an assault on our democracy. or whether it is taking away weaken voting, taking away registrations during the last
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month, whether it is one drop off box for milwaukee, that bill passed the legislator. and it's only because of the governors that it was ever vetoed. or in montana, you see that they took away same-day registration which had been in place for 15 years. this is a concerted effort and the answer is, which is allowed for clearly in the constitution that it's as congress can make or alter the law for federal elections. it is to put in minimum standard -- to make sure that anyone can vote regardless of their zip code. and we can -- money out of our politics. that is exactly the case that we are making. it is not radical to change the senate rules. if it was able to be 160 exceptions, lawrence, to the filibuster. 160 exceptions. carve outs, all kinds of stuff that people had done. robert byrd himself once said that if you change the rules to meet the circumstances of the times when you reach a point
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when things can get done, that is where we are right now. i just get rid of the filibuster but there are other alternatives along with a standing filibuster or carve out to the existing filibuster. >> let's listen to what senator manchin said about this today when he spoke to reporters. matt >> let me just say that to being open to the rules changing it is very very difficult. i think that for us to go at it alone, no matter what side and ends up on, it hits pretty hard. >> you said, and i seems that you're seeing this again, you aren't open to changing roles in some way shape or form. >> that is my absolute preference. >> well he said it's a preference. senator, you heard him speaking privately today. were you encouraged about the possibility of getting senator manchin's vote on the rule change for voting rights if necessary? >> again, i am not going to
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talk about are private discussions and what is going on there but i will simply make the case that a lot of us like to work across the aisle. i do, you know that lawrence. i pass a lot of bills with republicans. it's important to me to bring people together. but in this case, in the case of voting rights, mitch mcconnell has blocked time and time again, even my bipartisan bill to require backup paper ballots because of russian interference in our elections that i had with senator elaine. it was supported by senator burr and lindsey graham. or the simple bill that said you have to put disclaimers and disclosures on a political ad that is on social media. again, those things have been shut down. he will not budge. there is a red line when it comes to voting. and i believe that no matter if you are democrat or republican watching the show right now, that there is something larger than our differences. and that is our democracy
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itself. we are not a dictatorship. we are democracy. and we must support that, and as we come up on the anniversary of january six, i will never forget walking through the hallway with senator pence with barry painted columns and glass broken all over us at 3:30 in the morning with those two young women with the mahogany box filled with those last ballots just to finish the job and to uphold our democracy. but it wasn't over then. and that is what we have learned in the last year. a concerted effort and just as we are holding people accountable by investigating what happened on january six, or with the investigation in the house, we have improved security. we also have to make sure that we carry on that torch of democracy of so many generations have done. and to be good by making sure people can vote and that their votes are counted. and that is with the freedom to vote act is about. >> well, senator schumer promised a vote in the next two weeks today so we will see soon
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enough. >> correct, that is very important. it is important because we just can't keep waiting. at some point big have to make a decision. >> yes. senator amy klobuchar, thank you very much for joining us tonight. senator manchin will be very glad that you didn't leak a word of what he had to say. unfortunately. thank you very much. >> don't have time to do that. >> thank you senator. and coming up, what should be the new most red piece in the new york times. it tells us that some of the ammunition protecting democracy in this country is actually embedded in the constitution itself. that is next. self that is next hs wearily) here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and nutrients to support immune health. (burke) with farmers auto multi-policy discount, the more policies you one gram of sugar, have with us, the more you could save on your auto insurance. (man) hey, hon! (wife) hi, honey! (man) like what?
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electoral. college this article in the new york times, today, does not make that mistake. quote, the notion that the 18th century american constitutional order is suited for governance in the 21st century as as preposterous and nature inside as anything mr. trump's ever uttered. the article goes on to say, twice already this young century, the republican party is won the electoral college and thus the presidency while losing the popular vote. republicans in the senate haven't represented a majority of americans since 1990s, yet they've controlled the chamber for roughly half of the past 20 years. in 2012, the party cap control of the house even though democrats won more votes, the federal system is neither fair nor balanced. joining us now, the seato won a vu, contributing -- author of this new important piece.
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thank you very much for joining us. lawrence tribe has tweeted your article, with his great praise. tell us what you think people are missing when they approach this discussion about the challenges to democracy, as if it's purely a present tense phenomenon. >> thank you for having me. i think a lot of people have said over the past two years -- as an attack on our institution, there are some ways that that is true. it's a rejection of illegitimate election -- the capital was physically attacked. when my piece is really about is how our institution is partially responsible for what we saw, last year. donald trump was a president in the first place because of 2016, the electoral college put him into the white house over the will of the american electorate. he said no is because democrats
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had a very -- the other things that i get at is there is a sense that our institution -- americas conservative minority with the clinical entitlement. i think if you don't really pay attention to the side of the system, you don't think critically about why it is the way it is, you look at the outcomes we've seen in the last 2025, years the bush administrations, the fact republicans have a grip on the senate,. my book evaluates out and says because america, is at his heart, in a conservative country. the bulk of it is conservative. when you have outcomes like biden, or before that, obama winning, some people say this must be because there is something underhanded going on. something must have been fraudulent about this election, that would've led to this. i think that's partially what caused the january 6th. the sense that any outcome that is aberration from conservative
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power, are suspecting some kind of way. that's an impression that's fostered by the fact that we don't have a healthy balance you, or real even given take from both parties. we have in stead one favor that is favored by institutions, and another party, the democratic, that faces low odds. when it does win power, it is then threat in an attack by these accusations. propaganda, with an assist from the mythologized-ing that we do about our institutions. >> you make the point, the united states senate begins as a stacked deck with voters in the dakotas having much stronger representation, then say, the ones in new york city, and new york state. then you make the point, the super majority requirement
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imposed by the senate filibuster can stall even wildly popular legislation. so, the two per state constitutional point stacks the deck in the senate, and then the senate itself decides to stack the deck in an even more extreme way. >> yes. it's a very bizarre situation. the founders -- even they didn't think a supermajority requirement for -- beta whole lot of sense. the system is really out of. whack it's out of whack for reasons like, again, we tell are so -- the reason why the senate is the way that it is, the reason why we have a two state -- two senators per state, isn't because the senate founders -- mostly united states in 1777 whose heavily ruled. it was really because a small
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state threatened it, as a condition of their purse to patient. they were going to walk out if they were for this power. the founders -- kind of acquiesce to that, out of necessity. this is the high minded principles compromise that we tell ourselves in civics. class i think there is a sense in which our preservation of these institutions's prevents us from having frank discussions about where this antiquated system that we're see, and where it's leading us. >> thank you very much for joining us, i really appreciated. you can find his piece of the new york times, it's the most important one you'll read. thank you very much >> thank you for having me. >> coming up, donald trump canceled his tv stunt scheduled for january 6th, because he was calling a press conference --
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neuriva. think bigger. last night, i made a very clear that msnbc would not be carrying the january 6th trump appearance live, and then, as she told donald trump, if he was watching, what you would have to say, for me, to give any coverage at all, to his planned event. donald, if you're watching, i don't want you to to give you the impression that all you have to say -- it actually has to say important, and something that you haven't said before. i don't think if he'll meet that challenge. this afternoon, donald trump had a written announcement filled with lies in, the middle of which he said, i'm canceling the january 6th press conference at mar-a-lago on thursday. joining us now -- executive editor, and the host of the hell and high-water
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podcast, who has never canceled anything. john, it was becoming clear, not just based on what i said, that he probably wasn't going to get any live tv coverage, of what he was planning to do on thursday. >> lawrence, first of all i want to say, thank you for giving me an opportunity a lifetime, opening for share, i never thought i'd have that chance. secondly, i think, you know, the biggest statement was the liable mission. he always watches the show, as you know it at 10:00, and he always takes where you say to heart. i do actually think that you're right, the implicit analysis, which is, that donald trump is a lot of things, many things are produced, and some of them are evil, and some of them are even stupid. but he's a pretty savvy reader of the national media scene. there's no doubt that the guy has an open mic on right-wing media. he has opened mic on fox news,
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and the station to the right of that, and you can always do is rallies to tell his lies. what's the point of doing this on mar-a-lago? the point of this would be to get mainstream coverage. i think, you are not alone on laying down a pretty strong marker that this press conference would not be covered live on msnbc, not on cnn, not on the places you wanted to be shown. i think there's a pretty good chance that he was gonna face a roadblock that would make it not in his interest to do this thing tomorrow. >> reporting on twitter that he was being advised to things, it's a bad idea, and it looks like you won't get live coverage. donald trump's lawyers have to be the happiest people in his group, that he will not be out there saying something that the various grand juries thinking about him, wants to hear. >> well, right. lawrence, the other thing, the other places that i mentioned, the other places we're's open mic, he doesn't have people asking many questions.
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we know that trump is good and not answering direct questions, he can also prevaricate, he can always flip-flop around install. it is a little bit of a risk for him, at the moment, giving himself this legal exposure, to be in a situation where reporters could ask the questions on either live, or top television, and there's a chance he makes a mistake that comes back to haunt him. apart from a lot of elected republicans who do not want to see any mention of trump cheerleading the insurrection on january 6th, the other happy people are trump's legal team. his bedraggled, underpaid, and always beleaguered lawyers. >> john, every remaining second rulers of the show blocks to share, thank you for joining us, really appreciated. >> do you believe in love? i do. >> i do. thank you john. coming up, cher will join us an
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after the show, i read as many tweets as i can. last, night since we talked about the -- summer tweets were about the kind fund. you can see all the kind fund delivers tests to schools, provide scholarships for girls to go to school in malawi. last four desks daca must msnbc .com. you can make donations. anytime last night, josé tweeted, the music of malawi never fails to bring tears of joy, in each of the last three years i've donated two desks in the names of my grandchildren who agree that it is a great is great substitute for any other gifts they might receive for me. kathy tweeted, made a scholarship donation and desk donation on 12, 30, 21. do every year, in honor of my father. and then, i found this all caps
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tweet from cher. she said, got to give it up for lawrence o'donnell, and his kind fund. i tweeted thanks back to share. but why think share once, when you could thank share twice. so, joining us now, by phone, share. she was watching last night. cher, thank you once again for your kind words about with the audience of the show does for those kids in malawi. >> hey lawrence. our babe, i'm so proud of you and your audience. i couldn't bully you last night, all of the money you have raised. i've been watching for a long, long time, and i didn't realize that it was in the millions and millions and millions. you took on a herculean task, and you rocked it. >> cher, you're the closer, coming in for lawrence tonight. we are very close to $33
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million, i think it will push us over the top. you still have a very, very long way to go. most of the schools in malawi still don't have desks, most girls in malawi still don't get a chance to go to high school, so all of that money is pumped right into their needs, right away. thank you for taking notice of it, and thank you for bringing it to the attention of your billions of fans. got one of whom, i think you know, is the 9 pm host, here, at msnbc, rachel maddow, when normally think of as the share of cable news. she left a message for you at the beginning of this hour. she told me, she gave me this order, to tell you, these are her exact words, hello, and i love you. that's from rachel maddow. >> i don't drink, but i want to have a cocktail with her. you know what, she is
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unbelievable. i'll tell you one thing, i'm such an avid msnbc. sometimes i'm yelling at you guys, other times i'm like, there are so sweet, and rubbing your heads. but, also, if you read any of my tweets, you'll see him so insanely political. >> so, how are you feeling about the new year, having been through one year of a sane presidency? >> well, you know, i'd like to get in there and scramble it up. i really wish to mcgrath would go really full tilt, and run around with her hair on fire. i know it's not the nice thing to do, -- times are wasting guys,
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somebody's got to light a fire. >> with all your experience in show business, i'm sure you've encountered more people like donald trump, then senators have encountered of people like donald trump. >> well, babe, i've encountered some tough people. some people -- just the worst things that you can think about. i've never encountered anyone, they pale in comparison. the people i know what, they couldn't even -- i mean, he's a horse of a different color. >> yeah, he's something like we've never seen before. share, i know you do a lot of charitable work yourself, and you've got a great organization this worldwide, about protecting wild animals in their habitats, and in other ways.
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that is something that is very dear to your heart, and i want to make sure you get a chance to talk about. that >> freedom wild. we're working on so many things. we rescued curve on, that was a big commitment, it took five years. it was a big splash. he's fabulous, i'm so happy that he got -- in all of his 30 something years, he was in a cage like a shed, he couldn't even turn around, he was chain to the shed, and could never move around. now, he's running, and he has a girlfriend. i'm so happy, but we are also doing other things. we have gotten eight lions, and a tiger, we've had them spade, and dhl is going to help us buy them to south africa. i'm sorry, i'm talking so fast,
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i want to get it in. they would've already been there, except for covid. one of the lionesses names and share, i thought i'd put that out there. anyway, we're going to get him there. we're doing an awful lot of things. you know, we're doing off a lot of things. hard work, and working with the governments who are trying to take the the animals from -- sometimes it's messy. not as messi's democracy, i've heard. >> for cher, i know with everything you have to do, i really graciously appreciate you joining us. before you go, i want you to know that when i leave here, our friend jimmy is going to be giving me a ride home, so, you know, who's going to get the last word in that car, on the way home. >> i just want to tell you, how much i appreciate you, and i am very proud of you. >> cher, thank you very much. we really appreciate you
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watching, we really a pretty shot you. joining thank you very much. cher, that's tonight's last word. let that happen again, please. 11th hour, starts now. 11th hour, starts now. good evening once again, i am ali velshi, day 350 of the biden administration. tonight, the house committee investigating the capitol insurrection is now seeking information from fox news primetime host. the panel sent kennedy a letter asking for his voluntary cooperation and saying that it has information that he had, quote, advanced knowledge regarding president trump and his legal team is planning for january six. and the hannity had relevant communications while the right was underway and in the days there after. the committee described hannity as a fact witness. and a