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practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day. >> republican leaders of the house and senate get tonight's last words. the 11th hour starts right now. do good evening, i am stephanie ruhle, day 358 of the biden administration. the day the lawmakers investigating the capitol riots set their sights on what may be their most significant target yet. late today, the january six committee at the top house republican and close trump ally, kevin mccarthy, for a voluntary interview. the house committee six-page letter to mccarthy asked for details about his communications with trump during and after the right. the lawmakers also want to know about mccarthy's contact with white house chief of staff,
mark meadows, in the days that led up to january six. >> he's made significant public statements about what occurred on january six and we'd like to hear from him. full he gave a statement on the floor about president trump bearing some responsibility for what occurred. >> if he doesn't cooperate with the voluntary requests will use subpoena him? >> well, let me say will consider it. well tonight mccarthy issued his own statement, saying he will not comply with the committee, quote, i have concluded not to participate with the select committee's abuse of power that stains this institution today and will harm it going forward. but here's the thing, this past may, mccarthy was singing a very different tune. >> would you be willing to testify about your conversations with donald trump on january six if you were asked by an outside commission?
>> sure, next question. >> you didn't hear that? he said, sure. and here is some of the floor speech, chairman thompson referred to, that was made one week after the insurrection. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action by president trump. except his share of responsibility. quayle the brewing unrest. ensure president elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. what we saw last week was not the american way. neither is the continued rhetoric that joe biden is not the illegitimate president. let's be clear. joe biden will be sworn in as president of the united states in one week because he won the election. >> yes, that was clear. but then things changed for
kevin or kathy just weeks after the attack. weeks after that floor speech, he had announced. which sure looked like a cozy meeting with trump. here's what one january six committee member said, tonight, about mccarthy's refusal to cooperate. >> he's hiding from the trump base. he also maybe hiding the fact that he was implicated in the political coup in the mansion of the day's activity. that means, he may have been totally with the program in terms of trying to get vice president mike pence to unilaterally reject electoral college votes. >> mccarthy, now, the third republican congressman to be asked and to refuse to cooperate with the committee along with ohio's jim jordan, and scott perry of pennsylvania. today, the committee did meet virtually with former trump white house official, kayleigh mcenany. she was originally scheduled to
give her deposition back on december 3rd. and while she did participate, there was no word on what she actually said. meanwhile, the current president is continuing his fight for the right to vote. tomorrow, biden heading to capitol hill to meet with senate democrats earlier this evening, vice president harris made it clear. all of them need to back the white house when it comes to passing voting rights legislation. >> i will not absolved. the 50 republicans in the united states senate from responsibility for upholding one of the most basic and important tenets of our new democracy which is free and fair elections and access to the ballot for all eligible voters. >> what about senator manchin? what about senator sinema? >> i don't think anybody should be absolved from the responsibility of preserving and respecting our democracy. especially, when they took an oath to protect and defend our constitution. >> but, this afternoon, the senate gop leader, escalated the battle over voting rights in his own scorching floor
speech which attacked joe biden and the possibility of any filibuster reform. >> well, 12 months ago, this president said that this agreement must not leave to this union. but yesterday, he invoked a bloody disunion of the civil war. the civil war. to demonize americans who disagree with him. he compared, listen to this, a bipartisan majority of senators to literal traitors. how profoundly, profoundly unpresidential. the presidents rant, rand yesterday was incoherent, incorrect, and beneath his office. you cannot invent a better advertisement for the
legislative filibuster and the president abandoning rational persuasion for pure demagoguery. 52 senators and millions of americans are racist. unless he gets whatever he wants he is proving exactly why the framers build the senate to check his pal >> well, chuck schumer, the democratic leader, he is not listening to that in hopes to just start the process by bringing the stall voting bills to the floor and force a conference station over the senate rules. there's been a debate over voting rights and the reform is just one of the many challenges facing this white house. the administration is trying to help schools stay open during the omicron surge, by now promising 10 million free covid tests every month. federal officials are also looking at a new program to offer high quality mask to everyone in the united states. then there is the country still
showing in facing problem. prices are rising at the fastest pace over the last year. that is up 7% from the same period a year ago. >> i think we've seen a number of unanticipated outcomes. when it comes to prices, this is a global phenomenon. it is connected to the pandemic. it is issues that have raised the supply change challenges that evolved over the course of time through the delta variant over the course of the fall. there have been issues where we had to go and tackle head on. but i think that we find ourselves in the position, now, where we are looking forward and most forecasters are projecting that the price increases will moderate. >> has the white house struggles all of these issues?
there were some more troubling out. the poll today puts joe biden's approval at just 33%. that is a new low for his presidency. with that let's bring off our lead off guests jacqueline alemany, political reporter for the washington post and arthur of the papers mourning these letter. the early tool. two former u.s. attorney, joyce alene vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. and cohost to the podcast, sisters in law. and peter baker, chief white house correspondent to the new york times. jacqueline alemany, i want to share what's kevin mccarthy shared to fox news on january six as the capitol riot was happening. >> this is still un-american. i condemn any of this violence happening on the capitol right now. i already talked to the president. i called him. i think we need to make a statement. make sure that we could calm the individuals down. >> so what's the goal?
make him testify, play that tape, show the audience what he said at that time. and compare that to his absolute silence now? >> yes, stephanie, kevin mccarthy has had an evolution since january six. and it's happened to be a very public one that's played out before the cameras. but i think lawmakers on the committee investigating the january six insurrection are currently, and still, debating how they are going to proceed and getting potentially, keep to testify as they wrap up the final phase of their investigation before they pivot to the public face. but, it is not just kevin mccarthy that they need to get to compel and comply with the investigation in some way. it is also congressman jordan and scott perry as well. these three lawmakers are currently, again, under discussion with the committee on how, if they do ultimately end up sipping him, how they will actually enforce that
subpoena. which is uncharted territory. and lawmakers are being cautious and careful so as to not unnecessarily start a fight in order to get this information that they do really need. and that is what they will say privately if they do want to get a full comprehensive picture of the former presidents mind set in the days leading up to and on january 6th and after january six. these are three guys who were in close touch with the white house, or conduits. back and forth down pennsylvania avenue. as lawmakers and this political coup, as jamie raskin referred to it as, we're trying to come up to ways to overturn the results of the 2020 election. >> joyce, let's remember, hillary clinton testified about benghazi for 11 hours voluntarily. and all these big tough guys, they are hiding under their desk. we don't know what they're hiding. but what does the committee, what can the committee do to pull these boys out from under
their desk and get some answers? >> it's uncharted territory. the committee has some options. of course they could take the path that they took with steve bannon and mark meadows and abject failure to cooperate to the justice department for prosecution. but it's possible that doj could decline to get involved in a dispute between members of congress. and so ultimately, the committee may have to consider whether their internal mechanism, there are ethics mechanism for dealing with members of congress is something that could be used in this sort of a setting. that i think why we heard benny thompson, who's been very firm in talking about enforcement of subpoenas in other areas really step back from saying he would obtain a subpoena hearing. but there is an additional criminal question lurking here, stephanie. maybe more than one. and we see this evolution that mccarthy undergoes. and it's very clear that he
says one thing very firmly before he meets with trump. another thing after he meets with trump at the moment just before the impeachment trial. listening to that with prosecutors ears, i immediately want to ask questions and look if there's been obstruction of a witness ahead of that impeachment process. and whether mccarthy is a coal conspirator, or whether he wants the position himself as a victim and witness. i think there's a lot more to come here. >> peter, this white house is trying to help democrats hold on to the majority in the house. this committee is largely democrats with a couple of pretty unpopular republicans. if democrats lose the house, what is it going to be like for the biden administration to work with congress? >> well, that will be the end of his legislative agenda, or this time of his presidency if he runs for another term. they could take back the house. that will be one thing. but there won't be any major
legislation if president biden loses his party, loses his house in the fall. unless there is some sort of unforeseen, you know, emergency that brings the party together. as covid did for a short time. it is hard to see any agenda going. if everything is on the line here, that is why this midterm are so important. and here we, are at the beginning of this election year, with a president, as you point out without poll. and may be an outlier, maybe a low-end of the other, polls but it's pretty, you know, big red flag for this white house. we've got a weak president. he's not helping his party at a time when they need his help desperately. they only have a 50/50 split in the senate. one seed, they lose in the fall, they're done. not mitch mcconnell's majority leader again. they only have i think a three vote margin in the house. they lose those, boom, there in the minority. and your speaker kevin mccarthy. he's already made clear, he's going to take retribution if you become speaker. he, said in the last few days, he's going to kick off democratic congressman like
adam schiff and others who angered him off of the committee. so this is a really toxic moment on the hill where members are going at each other. and the parties are in full-throated contact with each other. and where we head will be determined by the election in the fall. >> okay, but then peter, should the presidents message to democratic members and congress help me, help you? they need his help in holding on to power. and he needs their help in getting any more of his legislative agenda done. >> well, you can certainly argue that they have been helped him by blocking his build back better social program. that has been, you know, a singular failure of this administration. >> and voting rights -- >> he had everything packed into this one program. essentially a whole new deal. a whole society in one piece of legislation. and in fact, it seemed to be stuck, if not completely dead. it's a major failure on the part of the democrats to deliver. but they promised to. last year and if they don't
figure out a way out of that they're not gonna have a chance because it's gonna go down. a little later in the year we, get it harder it's gonna become, and if this midterm changes the majority than that's over. threaten to strip january six committee member, adam schiff from house committee, should republicans win control of the house and he become speaker. i want to share what schiff said about him, tonight. >> mccarthy is a very weak leader. he really is the -- of the qanon conference, or base within his conference. as you demonstrated with that -- to trump, after the insurrection, he'll do whatever he thinks will advances admission. that's the person we're dealing with, and i think we recognize it. we're just gonna have to figure out the best way to secure's cooperation -- whether that there is inadequate. >> what is mccarthy's standing,
among republicans, with trump. when he's going to the political calculations for himself. how does this all add up? >> yeah, so i think from a reporting perspective, if we take a step back here, it's hard not to look at his trajectory over last year, and the shifting and changing public statements that he's made. and, look at some of his statements and -- what to stay in power and manage what's become quite frankly, an unruly house conference for him. he has called it, deemed it, tried to label it as he just has a big tent party, and he's trying to keep all of his members happy. to some extent, he is getting some praise from people within his party, but people on -- who are more moderate, and people who are all the way on the right, the more extremists,
muggy, caucus, lauren boebert, paul gosar types, neither of those are particular thrilled with him. that's why we've seen him again act in certain ways that have been mushy when it comes to actually calling things as they are. i do think he is looking towards november midterms,, all signs are pointing towards -- and he's doing everything he can to protect a future speakership and maintain that power. >> joyce, despite what mccarthy said months ago, it's really no surprise that he's not playing along now. does the committee's request reveal anything about what their strategy is? >> the committee's request is really detailed, stephanie. it provides a lot of background for why they want to listen to what mccarthy has to say, if
you will share with them. but, one of the most interesting pieces in the letter they sent to mccarthy, in light of recent developments in the news, is this request to talk with him about his conversation with chief of staff, mark meadows, in advance of january six. and the committee kamara fires that saying, they're trying to understand what the -- and with the plan was for january six. it's fair game now, and certainly legitimate, now that we're seeing this news about fake slates of electors being submitted in at least seven states, with this appearance of cohesion. because each of those submissions look remarkably similar. it would be legitimate for the committee to talk with mccarthy about that, whether he was aware of that, whether that was a conversation the white house -- and whether there was any sort of planning on what you are secure call conspiracy, and that regard to the run up to january six. that's very serious, it involves, at a minimum,
submitting the false statements to the government. there could be a lot of implications of that conduct. mccarthy could be fairly questioned about that. >> peter, how is this white house going to address this drop in his approval rating. they've got some areas that are winds, we have a winning economy, we are clearly in recovery. unemployment is low. all of these people quitting jobs means they can go out and get better ones, but then we got inflation embers today. prices are soaring on everything, from me to, cars to, homes. that's got the american people fearing very lousy about money. if they don't feel good about money, despite a good economy, how does biden tell a story? >> it's a really interesting conundrum. and so many, ways the economy is good as you pointed out. the markets set more records in biden's first year than they did in trump's first. you're growth is booming, here, compared to what it has been in years.
wages are going up. there are so many things that are obviously positive, but that inflation thing has got a lot of people worried. it's highlands ever been in 40 years, and that is a lot of people in the pocketbook. they go to the stores, right now, and they're seeing empty shelves, because of supply chain issues, it's created this our mood. whether it's his fault or not, he will be held responsible. that's how it always works. now, the positive possibility for the president is that some of this begins to change in the next few months. if there is some pollack back of inflation, with omicron wave receding, and they get their handle on testing, in some of these other issues on the virus, you can see a scenario where things get better by -- and things are looking out for democrats. right, now they're not feeling it. the public is feeling quite down about things, very frustrated about where things are going. they're taking it out on the. presser >> things are dark in cold, on this january evening. jacqui, joyce, peter. thank you all so much, we're gonna leave it.
they're coming up, the top senate republican is not budging. no surprise on voting rights. so, can democrats alone get the job done? later, one doctors revealing story of trying to test and care for a family member with covid. the 11th hour is just getting underway on this wednesday night. a mom saw lot
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robinson, pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the washington post. and, michael murphy, veteran -- and co-director of the sector for political future, at the university of southern california. and, of course, the cohost of the hacks on tap, mr. murphy. joe biden deliver to very powerful speeches in the last week. both, taking serious jabs at former president trump. what does he call him? the defeated former president, that's new name for him. when you think about this? >> i liked it. on hacks on tap, we talk about this all the time. biden needed offense. the narrative of last year was the left wing of the republic -- of the democratic party, you know slapping the president around. the logjam, internal fighting. he's finally framed it up for the election year. he's gone after the orange menace in the room, so to speak, by going after the president. it's not the only thing he can, do but in an election year, you shift the picking of simple
fights that you hope will lead to a good outcome on election day. so, i think i see joe is a lot better than silence joe. so, if i was a democrat, i'd be quite happy about the shift in tactic. >> eugene, i haven't heard any changes out of sinema or manchin's camps, yeah, chuck schumer wants to bring this to a vote. is he bluffing? or, could he maybe have the votes for some sort of carve out? if republicans, if they can restrict voting rights all over the country with a simple majority, why shouldn't democrats be able to protect those rights with a simple majority? to me, fair is fair. when am i missing? >> fair is fair, but we're talking about the senate. you know, you heard mitch mcconnell going on and on today about how democrats were smashing the senate. i laughed, he should be a standup comic. this is a guy who smash the senate by refusing, for almost
a year, by giving merrick garland a hearing, and then rushing through the barrett nomination. the man who smashed the -- leaving that aside, for a second, i'm like you, i have not heard anything for manchin and sinema. it particularly makes me think that they've changed our minds -- however, there is this new idea that democrats have, they have a way of getting bills, at least, debated in the senate. it involves a switch back pass around, through the house again, and then it comes in, and then they have to debate it. it still faces a filibuster, at the end of that debate. republicans probably will filibuster. and then, we'll see. that's when the rubble will hit the road. maybe at that point, there will be a change of heart, but there's no reason --
particular reason to think there will be at this. point >> michael, does biden's vocal support and changes of the filibuster mean anything? obama, now saying he supports it. >> you know, i think it means something in the rhetorical fight of the election year. but, the democrats keep making, in my view, to mistakes strategically. they pick fights they don't have the votes to win. the majority they have is kind of an illusion. they have a partisan majority, not ideological majority. beyond, that when they do go for something, they go to big. which pushes their conservatives, their mansions and their cinemas, or their conservative democrats, in a vice, and creates these problems. i thought manchin was on a good track with this compromise bill on voting rights, so it's not as large as this one. this one is really large. i think there are some flaws in it. i wish the republicans had embrace the manchin thing, because there is now, as a conservative it's hard for me
to say, but there are bad actors in there, in some states. so, we have to federalize some things to guarantee elections. we also have to pass the electoral -- this is the most important thing, and it could pass. right now, the way we count the electoral college isn't credibly antiquated, and full of problems that can be exploited by bad actors. and we have some bad actors lurking around. so, they go to big and don't have the votes, if i were them i would focus more on having the issue to take to people to win the election to get power then the line of biden for another loss in the, senate which is with his big bill is heading democrats, are you listening? . michael murphy just said, get small, get strategic. get it done. gentlemen, please stay with us, we're gonna take a quick break, when we come back he's often cast as the leader of the gop. making his move a little more consequential. with the midterms now months away. we are talking, dj t. we are talking, dj t
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election. >> why is it that you think that the vast majority of your allies in the united states are not standing behind you? we did have that statement by my. >> because mitch mcconnell is a loser, and frankly, if mitch mcconnell were on the other side, and his humor were put in his position he would've been fighting this like you have never seen before. he would've been fighting this,
because when you look at it, and this is a long way from over -- >> yeah. that was donald trump. 300 days until the midterm election. and the de facto leader of the republican party picking public fights with its elected members. trump, calling mcconnell, a loser. shortly after that exchange, trump abruptly ended the call, hung up nine minutes into the interview that's been scheduled for 15. still with us to discuss, eugene robinson and mike murphy. eugene, before trump dumped the call, he was, again, relitigating the 2020 election. listen. >> how come biden couldn't direct 20 people for a press? how come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch? but all of a sudden, he got 80 million votes? nobody believes? that >> if you forgive me, maybe because the election wasn't about you. >> to steve's point, at the end, 2020 was absolutely a
referendum on trump. and voters rejected him. if he insist on making 2022 about him and his grievances, won't that hurt republicans? the big winning moment for republicans was glenn youngkin in virginia. and he didn't go anywhere near trump. >> yeah. and so, donald trump makes 2022 about him. that is a net positive for democrats. look, democrats got their majority in the senate because donald trump gave them to senate seats in georgia. they are not frankly anticipating winning. it may be in the back. but donald trump gave it to them. he already said that democrats, stacey abrams, would be a better governor of georgia than the incumbent republican brian kemp. so, if that's the way that he's gonna interview in the selections, then i think all
bets are off. and all these predictions about how democrats are going to be crushed, that was pre-trump. let's, you know, all bets are off. >> michael, earlier today, i spoke with the republican that trump hates even more than he dislikes mcconnell. congressman adam king singer is on the january six committee. and i asked him about his own place in the party. , watch this. >> i'm going to maintain my republican identity and i've been one since i was six and i'm gonna fight for the soul of the party but yeah, i'm not gonna sit here and say that i'm a member of thblican family. there's a lot of people that are someone that i think agree with me. we just need people to speak out. because i'm gonna tell, you silence is complicity. and silence was a lot of conspiracy to infect this party in a way way worse than we've even see now. >> okay, to me the news there is that he was a member of the
republican party at age six. i really wish he knew more about baseball as a child. but he's retiring after this term. can you believe that, six years old? a republican. >> he is retiring after this term. do you think that there's going to be political repercussions for the complicity he's talking about. all of those people going along with trump's big lie? >> well, first of all, i waited till i was ten. i wanted to get behind nixon. but look, he's a hero. he's a friend of mine. but he and liz cheney are our heroes. for the courage they have, it's not like we're asking these guys to and on a beach. we are just asking the team to defend the constitution. but apparently, the bet that they're making being cynical and afraid is that, in the short term in the primaries, if they are not with trump, they're going to lose. and there's plenty of evidence that's true. so they'd rather, you know, look the other way. at least half of them. and keep getting the cheap
haircuts in the house barbershop. it's sucks. it's really grim. in the long term, i think and hope, because i'm in the small boat with them that adam kinzinger are right. he is right. because i hear it all the time from people i work with all these years. i wish that i could speak like you. but i get murdered back home in my primaries. so, we'll wait and see. in the short term, it's rough for those folks because trump does have a grip on about 60%, 65% depending on where you are of the primary vote. so you know, he's got that kind of leverage. and that will lead people to do either cowardly or politically stupid things. and that is what we're seeing right now. but the bigger problem being, -- they forget the uphold the law. would you think would be the first thing members of congress think about every day. >> you think. eugene, do you think all this infighting with the party is
going to impact the midterms and the odds? >> i do think it's going to impact the midterms. i don't know what's going to happen to the republican party to tell you the truth. i really don't. i want to know what the republican party was. i knew wooded stood. for it fought the last of the 2020 election without a platform. without a statement of what it believes. as well as what it wants to do. except we followed trump. that is what the party is about right now. good luck with that. because what direction is donald trump going to take you in? i don't think it's a good one. >> what will soon find out, eugene robinson, mike murphy, ten years old. joining the republican party again. learn about baseball kids. coming, out after days of tweeting bad news our next guest offers some optimism about omicron. when the 11th hour continues. when the 11th hour continues
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next guest, are also wrestling with the emotional toll of the virus hitting their own homes. we welcome back to the 11th hour doctor bob wachter, professor and chair of the department of medicine at the university of california san francisco. he is one of the bay area's leading experts on covid-19. bob, you're fully vaccinated son contracted covid. walk us through what that experience was for you and the lessons you learned. you are the expert and it was a crisis. yeah, thanks stephanie. it was ordinary, in that the experience that he's had his experience of tens of millions of people are having. but, i've been studying in tweeting about this for two years. having it hit a family member, as it sits so many, was very different. first of all, i got to experience the uncertainty of decision-making. you do a test the first day is negative, what is that? maine does he have it does not have? it trying to find a test, i
want to three or four different pharmacies to find a test, couldn't find one. should he take medications? i've studied this. well, i'm not sure. and then, the motion kicks in, and competes against the data. one morning, the day after he got sick, i called him up, and called him at 9:00, he did answer, called him a ten, he didn't answer. i went into his apartment, to find him to make sure he was still breathing. that was irrational, a news chances of dying were credibly small but when is your family member, the emotions are very difficult and the uncertainties are very staggering. >> overwhelmed by uncertainty and emotion. amazing, you study this. think about it except for the rest of us. i want to share a tweet that you posted, that raises a really important point about the virus. you wrote, this a, everyone will be exposed of omicron. be, everyone will get omicron. they are different. a promotes appropriate caution
till surgeons, boost -- counterproductive behavior as hospitals are overwhelmed. biggest difference, a is true, b is not. do the american people get that difference? >> i'm not sure in some of the messages that have been coming up by federal government. they are muddying it a little bit. it is raining omicron. this virus is so incredibly transmissible, that it is literally every were. unless you are hiding under your kitchen table, you will be exposed to it. in san francisco, which is the most highly vaccinated city in the country, our estimate is about one in ten people walking around have it. you will be exposed to it. i don't believe that we will all get it. in fact, i'm quite sure that we won't all get it. i've had my three shots. i'm going to do my darndest not to. in part because, it's highly likely that the surge is going to last a month or so, and then come back down. that's what's happened in south africa, it's happened in
london. it's beginning to peak in new york, in washington, and in boston. it's not a matter of being careful forever, i think we'll find ourselves in a very good place in february. for the next few weeks, yes there's a ton of virus around, you will be exposed to it. if you're wearing an and 95, you're being careful, you're being thoughtful about your exposures, i don't think it's inevitable that you will get it. i think some of the messages that have come out, we think are maybe causing people to say, why even try to prevent it anymore. i think that's the wrong message. it's not inevitable that you will get. it >> when you say, you think it will be a very good place in february, will that be february, and going forward, or february, until the next variant? it's >> either a or b on that one. i'm quite confident that february, march, april will be good. that this peak will -- will hit a peak in the next week or so, and we will come
back down by mid february. the number of cases in cities, and other areas of the community states will be quite. lowe will be left in a good place. almost everyone will have some sort of immunity, those who got a shot, some with breakthrough infections on top of that. and then the unvaccinated will get their immunity the hard way. they made a bad decision, they will almost certainly get omicron if they're not being super careful. so, i think will find our selves with a milder virus, will a high level population immunity, and in pretty good shape. how long that lasts, partly around will there be a new variant that's better at his job than omicron? i doubt it, but i doubted omicron would happen. i think we should have to wait and see. the other question is, for the unvaccinated people that got their immunity from an infection, how long does that immunity last and how robust is it? at this, point omicron is too new to know the answer to that. i'm guessing that it will last for several months, but i'm guessing that it probably won't last for several years.
it's possible that will be in good shape, but then be vulnerable again come next fall or winter. >> before i let you go, oh i've got our most important question, how is your son? >> thank you for asking. he's fine, he still has a bit of a sore throat and a cough. he still testing positive on day seven, so yet another uncertainty in conundrum. the cdc said at day five it was okay for him to go out and go back to work, but he still testing positive today, and i love him to pieces, but i wouldn't want him to breathe on me. so, he's still waiting in isolation until that test turns negative. >> all right. doctor bob, thank you for joining us. you deathly made a smarter, and safer. doctor robert wachter. coming up, saying sorry might not be enough for the british prime minister. we'll explain when the 11th hour continues.
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extraordinary sacrifices over the last 18 months. i know the rage they feel with me, and with the government i lead, when they think -- the rules are not being properly followed. to them, and to this house, i offer my heartfelt apologies. >> prime minister boris johnson, today, apologizing for attending a byob garden party while uk was under pandemic lockdown. members of his own party now won him out over it. the event is one -- eternal investigation. nbc news correspondent, matt bradley, with what's next for the prime minister. >> we got to hear from a somewhat shaky in, somewhat humble-looking boris johnson, today, in front of the parliament, that building behind me. now, of course, the prime minister was probably a bit confused as to why this particular incident has
attracted so much outrage. not just from the opposition labor party, but also from his own touring party. this isn't just the first scandal that boris johnson's been through, this isn't even the first parties during covid scandal. this is the third or the fourth party that boris johnson has been accused of attending organizing, as the rest of the country was locked down. the media, and members of the parliament we're talking all day, about those who lost loved ones, who died alone, who were unable to attend funerals, word able to attend holidays inverse, while those and number 10 downing street partied away. this is cause quite a bit of outrage. i asked the political -- why this moment is so critical, so make-or-break for boris johnson. here's what he had to say. >> it is a prime minister now, and the greatest political jeopardy that he's been in since he became prime minister? >> i think so. what we're into, as i said a
couple moments ago, he has enemies. he's lost -- those and >> they're not just the opposition labor party, they're also from within boris johnson's own conservative party. there's been rumblings of a mutiny from within his own ranks. now, that's not that hard to do in britain, remember, the printer is not like the u.s. president. he doesn't need to be impeached in order to be removed. there doesn't need to be a trial. they don't need to wait until the end of his term, they can simply withdraw their support, right now, from within his own party. a certain number, more than 50 of them would have to send a letter requesting this, to put it on the table. after that, they would have a new prime minister. it really is quite that simple. so, the british prime minister needs to constantly watches flank. that's why abortions in such a critical position right now, members of his own party want to see him go. they're going to be joined by many, many members of the
british public. a recent polling show that 66% of britain's want to see prime minister boris johnson's back. >> wow, matt bradley. thank you so much for that report. covid lockdown aside, i would like to investigate, who decided to have a bill while be garden party. you're in luck. the 11th hour is not over. coming back, we've got more. coming back, we've got more. a must in your medicine cabinet! less sick days! cold coming on? zicam is the #1 cold shortening brand!
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