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hi, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. if you're just joining us, welcome. good to see you. if you're still with us, thanks for sticking around. a diplomatic race against time to stop what would be a blood bath. so the biden administration releasing new details and new projections about a potential russian invasion of ukraine, an invasion a top u.s. official says could come at any moment. >> we're in the window where something could happen, that is a military escalation, an invasion of ukraine could happen at any time. we believe that the russians have put in place the
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capabilities to mount a significant military operation into ukraine. and we have been working hard to prepare a response. >> in a moment i'm going to talk to bill taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. few people know as much about this region than he does. also, a republican party attempt to dismiss what happened on january 6th as, quote, legitimate political discourse, is being met with a growing chorus of critics from both sides of the aisle. >> from my front row seat, i did not see a lot of legitimate political discourse. >> when there's a conflict, when the party is taking an approach or saying things that i think are just absolutely wrong, i think it's my responsibility as an alaskan senator speaking out for alaskans to just speak the truth. >> we need more republican leaders to stand up because
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unity is going to be the antidote against what we saw on january 6th. >> coming up, we're going to look at the potential political impact of the gop fixation on normalizing the capitol hill insurrection and what it may mean for the midterms. >> we want to begin, though, this hour with an increasingly tense situation in ukraine. a short time ago, the president stopped to speak with reporters as he arrived back at the white house, about vladimir putin and the threat of a russian invasion. >> do you think there's any particular think vladimir putin is looking for, sir, in order to make -- >> i think things he cannot get. >> any message to the troops in poland and their families, sir? >> so this is coming after u.s. officials said russia has amassed 70% of the troops and material it could need. it would need, i should say, to carry out a widespread invasion.
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and that an attack could happen very soon. visual proof of russia's readiness from new satellite images showing the large number of troops amassed along the ukrainian border, and now a sizable amount of russian military equipment in neighboring belarus as well. want to bring in someone who can provide unique perspective on this incredibly tense situation. bill taylor served as the sixth united states ambassador to ukraine from 2006 to 2009, and he joins me now. ambassador, it is a privilege to talk to you today. i appreciate you joining us on this with your very incredibly unique personal perspective on the situation that is developing overseas right now. so thanks for taking the time. let me talk first about what we just heard from the president there, because our reporting indicates that the president is still, as we would imagine, obviously, very open and wanting a diplomatic solution to this tense situation between moscow and ukraine. that said, when asked the question by reporters there, the president said essentially,
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listen, putin is not going to get what he wants. the reporter asked, do we know what putin wants in order to de-escalate. he said whatever he does want, he's not going to get it. i wonder how one moves forward with a diplomatic solution when therein lies the issue, a stalemate. >> yasmin, i think it looks like a stalemate. however, mr. putin seems not to have made the final decision. you're right and your reporting is right that he's got everything in place or 70% of what he needs to do a major invasion. and he's got plenty of opportunities, capabilities right now to mount an invasion of some kind. so he can do that. president putin can do that. however, he hasn't made the decision. he knows the costs. president biden has made it very clear what the costs will be in terms of financing, in terms of the sanctions, in terms of the
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deaths of russian soldiers. not to mention all of the ukrainians who would die. this is a major decision for president putin that he can't count on knowing what would happen. so he still has the opportunity to go in the other direction. this gets to your question, yasmin, that is how could he get there? he could say, which he has said, i never really intended to invade. so i'm going to negotiate with the americans. i'm going to negotiate for security that i have been telling them about for years and years, and only now have the americans taken me seriously, and he can sit down and have that conversation. that's where president biden would like him to go, that's where the europeans would like for him to go. that's where the ukrainians would like for him to go. and all of those entities are not backing down. president zelensky has all of those troops on his borders and he's being strong, hanging in there. president biden is resisting and
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supporting president zelensky on staring down president putin. so president putin has the decision to make. >> so a few things i want to talk through here. you speak specifically obviously about the ukrainian president, and i know you have been in contact with him throughout this ordeal. i want to talk first about this intelligence assessment that came out overnight, want to read reporting from "the new york times," helene cooper writing, enormous possible human gaus if mr. putin went ahead with the full invasion, including the potential deaths of 25,000 to 50,000 civilians members of the ukrainian member, and 3,000 to 10,000 members of the russian military. the invasion could result in 1 million to 5 million refugees with many pouring into poland. i'm not sure if you have spoke wn the ukrainian president overnight, but what do you suspect is his asetsment of this intelligence report we have seen coming out in the last 24 hours? >> yasmin, i'm sure he's seen that. i did talk to him earlier this
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week. he has seen all of the intelligence that we have been able to share with him, which is most of the intelligence we have. he understands the threat. he understands very well the threat. he wants to project and is projecting determination, resolve, calm. he is staring down president putin, as i said, with president biden helping him on this. he knows, president zelensky knows this would be a terrible decision that president putin could make and that you're exactly right. tens of thousands of more ukrainians would die. we have to remember, yasmin, 14,000 ukraiians have already been killed by russians and russian-led forces since 2014 when the russians invaded the first time. the russians invaded in 2014 and since then have killed 14,000 military and civilian ukrainians. this is something president zelensky takes very seriously. >> it's fascinating you bring this up, because our reporter, matt bradley, who has been on the border there for the last few days or weeks at this point,
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actually brought us a couple interviews with ukrainians living on the border and asked them about the u.s. involvement, the defense of ukrainians subsequently, and some of them said essentially, we want the united states to stay out. stay out of our business. we can handle this on our own. what do you make of that mindset, ambassador? >> yasmin, ukrainians are a very proud people. they have been fighting the russians, as i say, for eight years. they have been holding their own. they have certainly gotten equipment, gotten weapons, gotten training from the united states. gotten military support, political support, the threat of sanctions, so the united states has been there. but the ukrainians know that it's up to them. they're on the front line. the ukrainians know they have to face the russians. they have been doing it for eight years and they know they're going to have to do it alone. they want to be sure that we
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have got their back in terms of supplies, in terms of weapons, matt bradley, whom i saw in kyiv earlier this week, is doing a great job of being out there on the front line. and he has seen this. he has seen exactly this. he's doing a fine job. >> okay, so i guess the question now is end game, when it comes to the decision as to whether or not vladimir putin will in fact invade. we know one of the asks he has is he wants the u.s. to back off with their support for ukrainians' admission into nato. and wi know the united states is not going to support that. that essentially would mean the u.s. were being bullied by vladimir putin. so what is the end game here, ambassador, as much as you could feasibly make out? >> i could make out an end game, yasmin, that would have president putin deciding to resolve concerns, issues,
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security concerns that he's got in ways that civilized nations do. civilized nations sit down and they talk, and they negotiate, and they lay out their concerns for the other side. and then the other side lays out its concerns. our concerns. that's the way it can resolve itself. and there are multiple ways to do that. multiple places. we have talked about in geneva, having u.s./russian conversations. we talked about in brussels having a nato/russia conversation. we talked about in vienna having a european/russian conversation. there are ways to do this, negotiation is the way to do it, not invasion. >> i also can't help but think so much of this is vladimir putin enjoying being on center stage, which he often does. the more that we talk about it, the more bluster surrounding all of this, the more reports that are released, the more he enjoys feeling as if he's a threat to the rest of the world.
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so as he operates. ambassador bill taylor, as always, thank you for your unique perspective on this. we appreciate it. still ahead, everybody, senator joe manchin this morning slamming the process surrounding the build back better social spending legislation saying president biden's bill is dead. >> as it has been presented over the last seven, eight, nine months, that bill no longer will exist. >> democratic congressman andy levin joins me next to talk about what hope his party has of still advancing their agenda. we'll be right back. agenda we'll be right back. ♪ limu emu ♪ and doug. we gotta tell people that liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need, and we gotta do it fast.
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all right, senator joe manchin calls himself fiscally responsible, but our next guest called him mr. niet. senator manchin is making his position abundantly clear. build back better, at least as we currently know it, is not going to happen. take a listen. >> the build back better as it has been presented over, what, the last seven, eight, nine months, that bill no longer will exist. my biggest concern and my biggest opposition, it did not go through the process. whether lisa votes for it or not being a republican, she should have at least the opportunity to have input. it should have got through the committee. it's going to change society as we know it. >> with me to discuss is
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democratic congressman andy levin of michigan. talk to us, congressman, great to see you, by the way, thanks for joining us. talk to us first about this comparison? manchin saying he's fiscally responsible. you're calling him mr. niet. explain for me. >> hey, yasmin. so good to see you. first of all, let's frame this. i have to tell you where i just was today. look at this t-shirt i'm wearing. starbucks workers united. i just visited starbucks workers at a store in my district where 12 out of the 14 workers have signed cards. i think there is almost ten stores just in michigan where they're filing petitions with the national labor relations board. it's happening all over this country. if you broaden out the lens away from mr. niet, joe manchin, the american people are demanding change, and workers in many industries are organizing to make our country fairer. and so why he wants to come on shows every other sunday and
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throw cold water on things the american people want, like lowering the cost of prescription drugs, or universal pre-k for 3 and 4-year-olds, or affordable child care, i don't know. but we have to march forward and make progress for the poor, for the working class, for the middle class of this country. >> so we know that manchin has kind of shut down that overall build back better bill, initially envisioned and/or i should say compromised by the democrats, finally ended on that kind of $1.75 trillion bill. spending bill. but he has hinted at kind of breaking it up, right? envisioning it in a different way, from an nbc news piece saying this, but even as he says there are no formal talks, he keeps dropping hints about which policies might be worthy pursuits in some hypothetical future bill, perhaps one with a
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different name. i was actually speaking to a democratic strategist yesterday and said listen, this is a moment where, and this is exactly what democrats should do, if they're not going to get build back better passed wholeheartedly, they should be breaking it up and pass it piecemeal so they can look back come voting midterm time and say look at all of what we have done over the last year. >> yes, so there's a couple different things here. first of all, we have already accomplished so much just in joe biden's first year. way more than the previous president accomplished in four. the american rescue plan, the infrastructure and jobs act, the number of jobs that were created in joe biden's first year is the most ever created in one year in the history of the united states as far back as we have kept records, going back many, but here's the problem. not one republican is
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vote for the things in build back better. and so that's why we're using this reconciliation process, which you can use once a year with each budget. so he knows that's what we have been doing. now he's moving the goalposts again by talking about process as he endlessly does, and saying, oh, we have to go through regular order. well, we already went through regular order in the house. we passed a lot of bills while the senate does nothing. we passed the raise the wage act. we passed the protecting the right to organize act. we passed the violence against women act. we passed sensible gun control. we passed the hr-1 and hr-4, the voting rights bills. they haven't done any of that in the senate. so we really want to negotiate with them about what we can get through the reconciliation process, which only takes 50 votes in the senate, and i'm happy to break up, you know, the
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pieces and vote on them, but i'm afraid, yasmin, what that's going to do is not pass them through the house but show this is what the democrats are for. lowering the price of prescription drugs, lowering cost of child care, making pre-k for 3 and 4-year-olds free for everyone, and getting quality schooling for our 3 and 4-year-olds, and the republicans are against all that. that has a political utility to it. but i'm still hoping that we actually get things done across the finish line for the american people, because president joe biden is ready to sign any and all of these measures that are immensely popular with the people and that would really help them in this difficult time. >> congressman, before i let you go, considering your t-shirt, where you spent your time this morning, just want to kind of get you to weigh in on hill staffers wanting to unionize. i know you threw your support
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behind them last week. why do you see it as being that important? >> because they're workers in america. workers anywhere in the world. all workers have a basic human right to come together, to form their own organization, and to bargain collectively to improve their lives. and the people who make the laws can't hold ourselves out as an exception to that. that's really hypocritical, to me, and so if my employees, a clear majority of them came to me and formed a union, i would recognize them. i call on all of my colleagues to do that. and when the workers are ready to introduce a resolution to change the sort of rules of the road so that it's clear that they can form unions with support, i will be glad to introduce that resolution. but the workers have to drive the process. as much in congress as in starbucks or any other workplace. >> congressman andy levin, thank
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you. we appreciate it. coming up, everybody, a reckoning within the republican party. censures for members who condemned january 6th at the same time the former president delivers a message to his former boss. >> president trump is wrong. >> i should say the former vice president, by the way, just to be specific there. my next guest says hold on, before you nominate pence for a profile in courage award, and will infighting over the attack affect republicans's chances in the midterms? we'll be right back. right back.
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republican members of the january 6th committee for simply trying to find out the truth. take a listen. >> i think unfortunately, the president had many bad advisers who were basically snake oil salesmen giving him really random and novel ideas as to what the vice president could do. but our office researched and recognized that was -- >> when the party is taking an approach or saying things that i think are just absolutely wrong, i think it's my responsibility as an alaskan senator speaking out for alaskans to just speak the truth. >> so this is happening as the new msnbc op-ed points out that, quote, the facts are obviously on the vice president's side. the former vice president, i should say, side. but the question is, does it matter to the large swath of republicans who are still keen to follow the big lie?
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joining me now is the author of that piece, steve fennen, producer for the rachel maddow show, editor of maddow blog and msnbc political contributor. thanks for joining us on this. this is the overarching question so many people had after they heard the former vice president speak out against his former boss, the former president. does it actually even matter? especially with the timing of it all, right? so what do you think? does it? >> well, that's a big question right now. i think that we're clearly offering the public two competing ideologies. one is true and one is false. former vice president is right to say that under the constitutional system, the former vice president does not have the authority to overturn elections. on the other side, we have a competing argument from donald trump and his allies, yes, mike pence could have simply overturned the election and effectively executed a coup. i think one can hope that the public would respond to the
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truth, the accurate argument, and reject the nonsense, but at the same time, that's hard to say. over the course of the last year, we have seen a lot of strange arguments find large approval among republican voters. it's a difficult situation that we're facing, but one can hope for the best. >> do you really think it's hard to say, though? because there are those that have been on the fence for a very long time when it comes to kind of the belief in the former president and belief in all of the things he puts out there, and then there are those who have been fervently in support of him and whatever it was he had to say, who seem as if they have dug in even more. so if they continue to believe this big lie, why would they then get onboard and make an about face and have any trust in the former vice president, who they at this point likely just see as someone who is treasonous towards his former president? >> i think that's a fair point. i think it's an underappreciated point. clearly, mike pence has become a
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villain in the eyes of donald trump's most loyal supporters. of course, we all remember what happened on january 6th itself when some of these radicals were attacking the capitol and literally saying hang mike pence. here we have the former vice president speaking out, clearing a low bar, but telling the truth about his role in the process. your question is spot on. why would they believe him? unfortunately i think for many of them is, they won't. but i think that's all the more important in the larger context, which is it's up to republicans at this point, people like lisa murkowski who you just showed and others in positions of authority and fluence to speak up and say wait, mike pence is right, he's telling the truth, and donald trump is wrong. he's not telling the truth. at this point, there's no one else voters are going to listen to. they're not going to listen to constitutional scholars, lawyers, maybe they will listen to mike pence who will have ininfluence over the direction of the republican party. >> steve, we thank you. good to see you.
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>> want to move to my panel, shermichael singleton, contributor to the boston globe. also, jesse moore, former obama white house speechwriter, democratic strategist, and founder of common thread strategies. welcome to you both. a lot of us have been talking about exactly what the former environment had to say, how huge, how ground breaking, going against his former boss, stepping out on former president trump. it seems as if it matters more to democrats than to republicans. by republicans, i mean republican voters. we haven't necessarily heard from legislators as much. weigh in on that for me. >> yeah, yasmin, that's a really great point. a good percent of republican voters still believe that the election was taken away from former president trump. many of them still believe that the former president was not done properly, if you will, that's a phrase i have heard from quite a few republicans as i have traveled the country, but yasmin, i have also heard from a lot of republican voters as i travel the country that while
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they have an affinity toward former president trump and while if he runs again, they're going to give him another look, going to support him, they're also open to someone else. i think a lot of republican voters are ready to move on. i think that's why you're seeing a lot of articles, a lot of ruminations -- >> like who? like who? >> ron desantis, potentially. ron desantis, the florida governor. i think people, while they like trump, it's the baggage. where a lot of republicans are saying if you can give us somebody else who is stiek those conservative principles and lead without a lot of the craziness, we're going to support that person. so i think while you're seeing people stick with trump now, it's early. the tides can change and there's potential for the tides to change for somebody else. >> let's stick for a moment, although i would love to get into other alternatives to donald trump come 2024, let's stick for a moment to this narrative we're talking about,
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the former vice president and where he went with this whole thing friday. i want to play a little bit of marco rubio on cbs' face the nation, as he was asked about it. >> well, if president trump runs for re-election, i believe he would defeat joe biden. i don't want kamala harris to have the power as vice president to overturn that election. and i don't -- that's the same thing that i concluded back in january of 2021. >> so donald trump was wrong? >> well, as i said, i just don't think the vice president has that power. >> my god, jesse. go ahead. i don't know what to say. just go ahead. >> feel you. so donald trump is wrong, that's a bridge too far, can't say that out loud. so here's the challenge. >> so, let me just -- jesse, let me say one thing. what's insane nee, and i might get in trouble for saying this,
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if we look back at the election leading up to 2016 and all of the things that donald trump said about marco rubio, and marco rubio said about then candidate donald trump, and now this. now marco rubio cannot even go on the record to say a guy that considers himself a stand-up politician, an honest guy, a man of faith, cannot get out there and say, the former president was wrong. go ahead, jesse. >> thank you. and you're stoking every anxiety i have with every word you speak. so the real challenge right now is literally speaking truth demolishes your chances to be a public servant or a member of the republican party. so let me know what you need, a hug, whatever support you need. any republican who is speaking truth is in dire situation at this point, and is updating their resume and they don't even know where to send it.
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this is a very scary moment. the fact marco rubio, and you know, i'm a democrat. i was -- and i'm not a big marco rubio fan, but i was so frustrated listening to him be called lil' marco and be dragged by our last president. and this moment, he can look into the camera and still be so scared of the president's wrath that he can't even bring himself to speak one little ounce of truth. that's rough. even though he's trying to make a good point, he still has to kind of tip his cap a little bit to the president. >> i mean, i got to say, you think about the state of the republican party, right? legitimate political discourse referring to january 6th. the censuring of liz cheney, the original conservative republican, the censuring of adam kinzinger for being part of the january 6th committee investigating what took place on the capitol, where people lost their lives, where police officers lost their lives. the former president suggesting
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that he would pardon criminals, pardon the people, the very people that stormed the capitol in a way encouraging people to do it again. if you back me, and i become president, i'll get you off, right? i'll set you free. what state is the republican party in at this point it seems like disrepair. >> yeah, it's not a healthy state, and you just showed cheney and you showed kinzinger, their voting report. they voted 90% with trump. both of them. liz cheney is as conservative as they come. she's the daughter of the former vice president of the united states and dick cheney is certainly no moderate or a rino as republicans like to say now of people who don't support in lock-step with donald trump. it would appear, yasmin, the party is in a state of disrepair, but i think jesse hinted towards something that is very critical and important here. you have to have republicans with courage and mag numinty who
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are willing to say i don't agree with the current direction of the party. that's important. dissent is important. you cannot have growth of ideas, you cannot have growth of policy conversations, you cannot move the needle forward if you're not willing to have debate within your own house, let alone debate across the aisle. that's been how this country has moved forward through some of the most tumultuous times in our country, from women's rights, to african american's rights to vote, from lgbtq rights, to a whole host of issues because we were able to debate and have disagreement and say we may want to use different vehicles but we recognize we're traveling on the same road. that is no longer true today. my hope is that, again, i brought up ron desantis, my hope is this is a pivotal moment where, yeah, the party is still sort of placating the donald trump, but my hope is internally people right we have to move forward. we have to get back to business as normal. we have to move the needle forward to help this country get to a position once again where we can debate those critical
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issues that are beneficial to all americans. we're going to have disagreements. that's okay, that's part of the process, but we cannot disagree about democracy, about the faith and health of our institutions. and that's where we are. have faith there are some people in the party who want to see that needle shift back to where it was. we'll see what happens in the next year, year and a half, as we see other names pop up as potential challengers to the former president, and we see what the appetite looks like not only with voters, but also with that pivotal donor base that will truly decide who they want to put their money behind. >> the question is, if any of those people are left, do any of them have power? do any of them still have a voice, right, to move forward? appreciate you both. shermichael singleton and jesse moore, great to talk to you. >> the republican-backed self defense bill that is bringing together an unexpected coalition. civil rights groups and police. they are calling it the make
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with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change. this is one of the most offensive pieces of legislation i have ever seen in my life. it's a personal attack on me. it's a personal attack on people who look like me. i try to think of words to describe it, and the only word i can come up in my mind is this bill is complete [ bleep ]. >> politicians, law enforcement, civil rights leaders in the state of missouri are sounding the alarm as you just heard over a controversial new self-defense bill making its way through the state's gop controlled senate right now. that they say is effectively
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going to make murder legal. so the bill titled sb-666, would aler missouri current self's defense laws and issue any use of force would be presuming self's defense. they then have to prove that in a court of law, that the person reasonably believed the force was in fact necessary. this bill would shift that burden of proof on the prosecutors who would have to present clear and convincing evidence in a pretrial hearing that the defendant was acting on motives other than self-defense before they could press charges. joining me now is tim wilmer, prosecuting attorney for st. charles county, missouri. thank you so much, tim, for joining us on this. you got moyer than 30 law enforcement officers and prosecutors signing a letter against this bill. i want to read in part a little bit of that letter.
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senate bill 666 would be a disaster for public street and would make the aurt incredibly difficult task of bringing violence offenders to justice nearly insurmoubtable. it attempts to short serk circuit the jury trial system and make the decision of guilt and innocence of violent criminals in their own communities. it's already so, so tight. why the need for this legislation? >> well, there really is no need. there's no need to fix provision of the law that's not broken. this is just another example of people in our party who have extreme views that are trying to relax the gun laws but they don't anticipate the unintended consequences. and there are a plethora of unintended consequences that could come if this becomes law.
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>> what's their justification for it? >> you know, i think they say that they're trying to protect missouri, law-abiding missouri citizens who use firearms to protect them from unfair prosecutions. i can't think of one in the state of missouri. i think this is really just an attempt to appeal to the far-right wing of our party and make sure that you don't give your opponent any talking points in the primary to say you're in any way anti-second amendment. >> can you talk about the real-life consequences here as well, tim? we just obviously heard there from state senator williams saying in that sound bite saying this is essentially going to be about color once again. this is going to hurt black citizens of your state. this is going to bar officers from arresting anyone for a violent offense when in fact they claim self-defense. how do you see this playing out if in fact it is passed and
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instituted? >> well, i think it's going to have devastating consequences, especially to cities like st. louis and kansas city, both of which have extraordinarily high murder rates. right now in the city of st. louis, for example, the clearance rate for murder cases is about 30%. if this law becomes or if this bill becomes law, i think you're going to have murder clearance rates in the single digits. just take a simple example. let's say a husband and wife are home alone, and the husband decides he wants to off his wife. he kills her, puts a bat next to the bed, when the police show up, he can say she came at me. what can i do? he's presumptively justified in that scenario. that's absurd, but that's where this thing is headed if this becomes law. >> really disturbing. tim, thank you. we appreciate it. we'll be watching this as it develops, of course. >> coming up, everybody, a conversation with the director of the new msnbc featured documentary, love & the constitution. a preview of that ahead.
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welcome back. legitimate political discourse -- that is what the rnc called what took place on january 6th in their statement censuring both liz cheney and adam kinzinger. it was their effort to rewrite history, putting it simply, it's straight up b.s. and everybody knows it. it's honestly pa thetic to hear. we all know that's not what it is. anybody who watches the events of january 6th or who was there knows what it was. this is legitimate political discourse, and that's not to hold the uk parliament on a
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pedestal. they have their missteps. the prime minster may have been engaining in parties while his country was on lockdown. that said, this is still legitimate political discourse. this is not. what we saw on january 6th. it is sickening to see people spinning hinges, hoping americans have short memories, trying to reframe an attack based on an outright buy from a former president looking out for his own political gain with no real motivation to help anybody else. let's be honest. it will be bettor call it what it is, at least. if the rnc said, january 6th was ugly, based off a lie, but we support these people. they'relied to threaten the lives of those inside because we need their votes. at least they would signal they're telling the truth. but they didn't do that. liz cheney and adam kinzinger, quite frankly, at this point, seem to be the only members of the republican party in the house not driven by a hunger for
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welcome back. so tonight on msnbc, an
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extraordinary look at one congressman's emotional journey through personal tragedy and public duty. "love and the constitution" gives a intimate look at congressman jamie raskin, after losing his son to suicide just days before the capitol attack, raskin then faced the greatest challenge of his political life, impeachment manager for the effort to hold donald trump accountable. i talked with his friend madelyn carter the, director, and asked her about these times of crisis. let's take a listen. >> this is why i chose the title "love and the constitution", because the film is about of course jamie's love and life long commitment to the constitution. he was a constitutional law professor before he went to congress. but the film is also about jamie's love and his incredible loss of tommy and that the love
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he has for constitutional democracy is really, i think, what's getting him through this awful period in his life. >> what did it mean to be able to capture such intimate moments of this congressman and what he was going through in his life, knowing now what has taken place? >> well, i actually have known jamie since he was 16. we were both in the same class at harvard together. i think we were comfortable with each other, and i think that enabled me to get a much deeper and more intimate perspective into jamie's life than your average documentarian. i also followed him for four
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years, so this is a very long project. and by the time these awful events of tommy's death and january 6th came along, i had already been following jamie for three and a half years. >> don't forget to tune in tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern, for "love and the constitution", only here on msnbc. all right, a maryland crossing guard is being hailed as a hero, when she saved a student from an oncoming car, and it was all caught on camera. you can see police officer annette goodyear give a stop signal to an oncoming car, which is going at a pretty high speed, wow, heading right towards goodyear and the child, but she quickly pushed the child out of harm's way and was quickly hit herself, as you see there, by the front of the car. officer goodyear was taken to the hospital but thankfully was released. the student was not injured. crossing guard that saved a
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student's life. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'm going to turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation". good evening, and welcome to "politics nation." tonight out of miami, florida. tonight's lead -- in the same boat. right now i'm thinking about solidarity, because while i watch the gop engineered campaign to suppress the voting rights of black americans and i respond to it from that perspective first, i acknowledge that whether it's black atlanta or brown arizona, the result has been the same for the minority voters that largely put joe biden back in the white house last year.


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