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steve schmidt, maya, we appreciatehm it, that does it f "deadline: white house" thank you for being with us, "the beat" with ali melber begins now. >> hello, friend, welcome to "the beat," i am ari melber and we begin with breaking news. president biden saying just within the past hour, vladimir putin, according to the united states has decided to invade ukraine and this could. within days. >> as of this moment i'm convinced he's made the decision. we have reason to believe that. we have reason to believe the russian forcesre intend to atta ukraine in the coming week. in the coming days.om >> reporter: to be clear, you are convinced that, you are convinced that president putin is going to invade ukraine, is that what you just said a few moments ago? >> yes, i did.
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yes. >> reporter: what reason do you have to believe he's considering that option at all? >> we have significant intelligence capabilities. >> this is a decisive escalation in the rhetoric and conclusions from the united states. you could see that intense press room there, and the president given thehe opportunity, reconfirming this view based on his sources on u.s. intelligence, some of it shared, some of it private, u.s. intelligence does state half of the russian military currently near ukraine in what is described as an attack position. the president also stated they expect the attack itself could come on the ukraine capitol of kyiv. we want to get right to an expert in the region who knows the region and served at the highest levels of united states government, u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfall, spoken directly to putin, here is one such example involving then vice-president president biden, you see mcfall, ambassador on
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the right side, vladimir putin on the left. ambassador, what does it mean when this current president who you worked for makes a statement like we just heard within the last hour? >> it's a very sombre, scary moment, ari. i also worked at the white house three years under president obama and i can tell you, you don't put the president of the united states onpu national television to say what president biden just did without believing the intelligence and it was extraordinary that he even said that we have the intelligence. that in and of itself was extraordinary, and the third thing, he already said it but i really want to underscore it, he went out of his way today in his addresshi to say they believe kyiv, the capital of ukraine will be one of the targets of this military invasion. now, we don't know if he meant an aerial campaign or soldiers marching to o kyiv but that, to
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me, was especially sobering to hear the city of nearly 3 million people is one of the targets they believe putin has his sights on. >> how is that different from past incursions in the region? >> well, you know, in the last intervention, the last invasion of ukraine in 2014, putin used his soldiers that were stationed already in crimea to annex that territory, that was pretty peaceful, and then he supported separatists in donbas, been supporting them ever since for eight years, that's resulted in realye casualties around 14,000 people died in that part of the war already but d what i heard e president alluding to today, that sounds like something of 10s of thousands of casualties, you just said it, 190,000 soldiers and sailors completely surrounded ukraine from the seao from land, in belarus, and on the other side of the borders, there's a quarter of a million
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ukrainian soldiers that if there's a land war are going to fight. if it goes the way it sounds like it, this will be the largest conventional war in europeco since 1939. >> what is the purpose of having the president speak out like this before what the u.s. says is now an expected operation? >> i think it's to prepare the world and the american people for what could be a really horrific war. and i really want to underscore that. the ukrainians are goingan to suffer. ethnic russians that live in ukraine, there's a lot of ethnic russians that live in the capitol of ukraine, kyiv, russians are going to suffer, going to suffer too. because president biden and his allies and partners have promised a massive comprehensive package of economic sanctions against russia. that will reverberate throughout the global economy and as his previous address, he warned the
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american people that we're going to be a part of this, not just on the sidelines, it's going to affect usid as well. >> i want to play a little more of what the president said and that's with mcfall is with us, worked with president obama, and president biden, worked in the region, and the news tonight is distinct from anything we heard out ofin this administration an white house until about an hour ago, thehi president underscori they expect imminent invasion by putin in ukraine within days targeting the capitol. what i'm going to play now is not the top of the proverbial news ambassador, this is the president having said what we play, having to expect this invasion, he did speak about the hope for what the u.s. now deems an unlikely diplomatic offering. take a look. >> what i say again, russia can still choose diplomacy. it is not too late to deescalate and return to the negotiating
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table. last night, russia agreed to secretary state blinken and foreign minister lavrov should meet on february 24th. february 24th, in europe, but if russia takes military action before that date, we'll be clear that they have slammed the door shut ony diplomacy. >> what's important there? >> well, you know, the president said we believe, and he believes personally, that putin has taken the decision to invade. but that -- he hasn't invaded. right? so there's a small sliver, a window of opportunity for negotiation. i think it'sun exactly right to propose another date, secretary blinken is already in europe at theke munich security conferenc lavrov in moscow, the fact they pushed the date in the future makes me wonder if they're
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trying to buy time with that, february 24th, right, but i think until there is military action we have to try to have a serious negotiation that putin wantedio to negotiate seriously about russian security concerns, european security concerns, i think there's a big substantive negotiation we could have, things we could do and they could doe that would make everyone better off. unfortunately, there's little information so far that suggests that putin actually wants to negotiate. >> understood, ambassador mcfall stays with me as part of our breaking coverage we just added to our reporting nbc's map, matt, live in moscow, what can you i tell us? >> thank you, ari, this is definitely, we've seen a change in the russian narrative here in moscow, no other way to put it. over the past several days kind of been, you know, planting the seeds if you will of a narrative
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they could grab if they wanted to justify potentially any kind of action, any kind of incursion specifically into eastern ukraine so on the state talk shows lastth weekends, kind of that's what we kind of looked to see, maybe what are the talking points going to be for the week, started to see this idea of atrocities being committed against the population of easternt ukraine. now, of course, those are old things, stuff we heard back in 2014, 2015 leading up to the annexation of crimea but start to see it creep back in by popular opinion makers like head of russia today and head of putin himself on monday saying there is af genocide in donbaso the question throughout the week is are we going to see that kind of creep up and become the main narrative on russian-state television? we are starting to see that. what we're seeing primarily right now though, when i mention a seed change is the past several hours, basically, since, i guess, the entire day now,
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since the separatist leaders first claimed that they were starting to organize massive evacuations of their two regions, in donetsk and, because of some claim of ukrainian assault on the regions we've seen the russian media go wall to wall on this and that's what's being sold in the other room. >> a really important context, i want to thank you, matt, especially for staying up late, i know you're working hard out there in russia. thank you for the reporting. ambassador, on that same point, the president also spoke about this russian propaganda. take a look. >> over the last few days, we've seen reports of a major uptick in violations of the cease fire, russian-backed fighters attempting to provoke ukraine and the donbas. also continue to see more and more disinformation s pushed ou to the russian public, including russian-backed separatists claiming that ukraine is planning to launch a massive
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offensive attack in the donbas. >> final question to you, ambassador, as our reporter emphasized, as the president was saying and this clearly matters in europe, walk us through why these type of lies, this type of propaganda about who has the reason or the pretext to move matters? >> well, because putin is creating a predicate for war. he's explaining to the russian people, that are,la by the way, confused, why are we going to war with brothers in ukraine, whyth is this all of a sudden happening? he needs, something to explaino them why they're launching this massive military intervention and it's veryma clear, matt did just outline it for you, a couple of things have happened literally in the last 10 or 12 hours, i watched russian television too. one, putin in the last couple days has talked about an alleged genocide in donbas, completely fabricated, completely made up, but telling his people they're
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committings ethnic genocide against russians. remember, those people in donbas are ethnic russians. number two, the leaders of these break-away republics, have called onbr their citizens to lead. they'reti telling women and children, go to russia, and they're even offering money for them to leave the territories. that is another -- they're getting ready for war.tt the disinformation part of that, as they're saying, well becausee ukraine's about to attack, think about how absurd that is. 150, 190,000 soldiers surrounding it and they're going to launch a pre-emptive attack against russians in donbas? that'sru ridiculous. but what they're doing is getting people out of there so they're not in the line of firing once russia attacks so the narrative of moscow in the last 24 hours has changed rather rapidly. >> understood and really helpful context from someone who has been there and done this work,
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ambassador mcfall, thank you, and we're all keeping in mind your words of warning and concern about the humanitarian cost here tonight. we have a lot more in our show, including a right-wing theory kicked around this week that actually got debunked by the prosecutor that the right has quoted a lot lately, john dura, into that later, also a mother confronting her son's own killer in court, and a judicial sentence, we'll break that down on the stories we said we'll stay onto in america civil righ and see policing. before that, something that notes concern in the pandemic ander endemic but also the way out,bu the turning point, covid fading now in all 50 states. stay with us. ur fading now in all 50 states. fading now in all 50 states. stay with us ♪are you ready for me♪ ♪are you ready♪ ♪are you ready♪ as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get.
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you've heard it before, we even mentioned why on this program you can't always believe it when you hear it but there are signs about a turning point on covid, cases fading, safety measures stepping back and optimism about going into a less deadly endemic phase especially for people who are vaccinated. the maps for states where cases are falling has gone from many or most to all, all 50 states in green. that is welcome news. cases down from nearly a million per day last month, down to 10% of that as of yesterday. so this is a big development, then you have states that are pulling back on all kinds of the traditional safety rules that
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were used during the height of the covid scare, including omicron surge, 49 states drop organization about to drop mask mandates, hawaii is the exception. projections to travel this year could also surge to levels we haven't seen since before this pandemic arrived. >> at a certain point, you just have to start living like things are normal. >> at what point do we say no more? so we are saying no more. >> now with this like okay, just come in and shop freely and you don't have to worry about any of that. >> it's been getting a lot more back to what it used to be. >> i'm glad that it finally lifted up and no mask out here. >> it's going to feel very good. i can breathe again. >> that's just some of what our reporters found talking to everyday people, some with masks on, some with a range of views but the idea that it is time to go forward. california is a state that saw a recall fight over these issues, a back and forth about the
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politics, but now this blue state says it will try to be, it claims, the first state to take an endemic approach, focused on prevention and quick response to outbreaks instead of the more severe mandates and shutdowns. >> we stand firm and confident as we lean into the future, moving away from a reactive mindset and crisis mindset to living with this virus. >> there are other symbolic indicators, a year ago at the state of the union, president biden, newly elected, made arrangements to have some members of congress attend that very big historic event. well, this year, lots changed. all members of congress are invited to attend that, a week and a half from today. there will be a mask requirement inside congress. now, some experts also warn we're nowhere near out of this, we don't know what the future holds, i think we all learned that when it comes to variants and the country averages over 2,000 covid deaths a day.
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that's major risk for people who are unvaccinated, who continue to die, many of them unvaccinated by choice, unlike some countries where people cannot get vaccines and there are people who are unvaccinated by policy, kids under five, immunocompromised and others in health situations that make them more vulnerable. so there's nuance here, but the big story is some cautious optimism. where do we go from here? i have two experts to break it down back in 60 seconds. k in 60. yeah! then your bank should help you budget even better. virtual wallet® is so much more than a checking account. its low cash mode℠ feature gives you at least 24 hours of extra time to help you avoid an overdraft fee. you see that? virtual wallet® with low cash mode℠ from pnc bank. one way we're making a difference.
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pandemic to endemic and we turn to our two guests, doctor and governor and former party chair howard dean and professor christina greer, welcome to both of you, we've come to expect some of your thoughtful, blunt views, dr. dean. i'd like to start with the kind of the really metaphysical as we
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go into the end of the week, talking about all these problems in ukraine. if you landed out of the blue and said there would be 2,000 people dying everyday in this country, the available information allowed a lot of that to be preventble, we would not be celebrating in any which way, and yet, as i just walked through some details, it seems many people, including people on the democratic left and in the medical community say that if people choose to be unvaccinated at this point and continue to die, this is where we go. i'm curious your thoughts, something that shows, yes, a 90% drop in case load but still a lot of people dying. >> yeah, and that's the problem. i actually think in the long run, you are right to be optimistic. but i think it's going to require all the antivax people and the "give me my freedom" people to finally cave in and start getting vaccinated. now the antivaxors are so
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ideological problematic but the give me my freedom they get their kids vaccinated for mmr and other things so i think the vaccination will be normalized. we'll continue to have a death rate of about 2,000 people a day or week or whatever it is, either number is awful, until the vast majority of the public gets vaccinated on a regular basis. omicron does get to a lot of people who have been vaccinated. so you're crazy if you don't get vaccinated, but i am optimistic, but this is the not end of it though, we'll have another bounce because a number of people still unvaccinated. >> professor, the flipside of all this what i just showed gavin newsome up there, there are people not just antivaxxers who say gosh, looks like antidemocratic politicians found the death toll on the risk is not what made them ease up 0 off the rules, but rather the
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pressure, the rules, whatever you call t a complex story but what do you think of that critique, the governor there and other state governors didn't wait for the death rate to fall a ton, seemed to have said we've done what we can and we have to right size. >> we've seen this in new york and new jersey where a lot of governors are relaxing restrictions. the underlying story is economics, a lot of pressure on governors because they want people back on shops and offices, the real estate industry in new york is very powerful and want people to, you know, come back into midtown and spend money at restaurants and i understand that a lot of people want normalization but we can't rush this. we've already seen people don't give me my 6 feet anymore, people stop washing their hands for 20 seconds so we will see another spike or surge or some sort of variant come through and as an educator, teaches in a windowless classroom twice a week, i know we are very masked up and take this very seriously,
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but once we start elks relaxing rules just because people are healthy now, relatively, when we start taking this seriously, we know we'll see another surge and concerns where little people in the house, under five years old or who are immunocompromised and they don't have an option so here we are with folks saying i'm fatigued. it's a mask. it's a piece of cotton. i really think, you know, the safety of the larger american public should take precedent over a slight temporary inconvenience of wearing a mask over your nose and mouth. >> it is tricky, and dr. dean, i want to go back to california again because i notice they claim, they're touting they have the first endemic policy, at the risk of riling people up, i'll just say, i mean florida would claim they are way ahead of california on that, maybe too far ahead. but what do you think of someone who has been both in the medical space but also a politician and governor yourself, about that
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attempt to pivot? because clearly there are states that didn't act like it was a pandemic to begin with, at least very early on and others that were very, very strict. what do you think of all that? and what looks to some like a political pivot, by some democrats? >> look, i basically have the same assessment as the professor does. i just got off the phone with somebody on another matter and they informed me, he and his wife both had covid because their five-year-old came home or four -- excuse me, five-year-old, came home and had been vaccinated from childcare and gave everybody covid, that's going to happen again and again so masks are important. it has gotten to be political and, you know, we can argue about whether or not that makes any sense or not, the fact of the matter it makes no sense whatsoever but politicians have to take into consideration political feelings so that's why we're not really out of this yet. i do think it's going to get
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better, i do think we'll continue to see a substantial death rate, mostly among unvaccinated. i think it's important that pfizer and the fda get this vaccine out. i understand now, i was pretty indignant at first but i understand now why they're waiting, principly because the first two small doses they tried weren't too effective but we really need to get that out and get the under five vaccinated so choice works two ways, if you choose not to be vaccinated, be my guest, just don't clog up the icu if i have a heart attack but you ought to be able to choose to get your kids vaccinated because that is ultimately going to stop this problem the professor mentioned about small children in classrooms making everybody unsafe because their parents don't have the brains to do what they need to do. >> yeah, and the trade-offs and these questions are not going away, taking pains to emphasize cases are fading, restricts are fading, the death toll is horrific, again, if you were just prepandemic and heard about this as a new story for a week
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or month, it's horrific and that's why we endeavored to have experts on of the range of it but also this region based conversation because it's not going away, we may be talking about this next year too. howard dean, christina greer, i wish you a better weekend than the mood of the segment and thanks for being here, appreciate both of you. coming up, look at a civil rights case in the field that we've been covering. what happens in the rare instances where prosecutors actually indict police for shootings and what happens in sentencing? the story i promised we would stay on. but coming up first, the justice department up ending and debunking a right wing theory kicking around, their own beloved special prosecutor who did it, the one and only david coren is here. david david coren is here. (mindy) yep! (vo) verizon is going ultra, so you can too.
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a right wing theory pushed especially on fox news debunked. for nearly a week, fox giving constant coverage into this alleged bombshell about, wait for it, hillary clinton. supposedly coming from a special council that you may recall was initially appointed by the trump justice department. >> the hillary clinton spying scandal. >> hillary clinton's minions had spied on donald trump's campaign. >> they don't call her crooked
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for nothing. >> john dern's investigation. >> the crime of the century. >> more electronic water gate except at a much higher level. >> is it? fox cited clinton over 200 times, she noticed. >> it's funny, the more trouble trump gets into the wilder the charges and conspiracy theories about me seem to get. fox leads a charge with accusations against me counting on their audience to fall for it again. >> now we track things that come out of d.o.j. we have reported on some aspects of this special council probe, one kept pledging, hasn't led to big indictments but when we heard about th we took a look and found basically the claims misleading and convoluted not news and not worth reporting,
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now the development somewhat unusual when it comes to doj filings, fox not only got the facts wrong but actually called out in a court filing, in writing, by their supposed hero, trump appointee, john durham, in the new filing basically says members of the media overstated, understated or misinterpreted the facts in the motion. fox got it wrong and trying to distance themself from it, muller not that tight lips but certainly avoids interviews and avoids court filing if he can so this is highly unusual. how is fox responding? this is also important, because everyone can get things wrong, in fact, last night we talked about first amendment rules and how the press sometimes makes honest mistakes and corrects them. that's acceptable. fox isn't correcting anything even though their own holy
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source durham called them out, instead, they have gone silent, according to independent accounts on the very story they claimed was the biggest news of the week. why does it matter? well millions of people heard the initial false version, didn't get a correction and now the network just moves on. this is a pattern we've seen, not just about hillary clinton and politics, but how they cover vaccine information and other decisions that, well, overlap with what we're covering on the show tonight. a study back in 2012, before trump was in office showed people who watched fox news were less informed than people who just consumed no news at all. joining us now is washington bureau chief journal, david corn, i got to start with a light apology -- i'm sorry we didn't invite you on for a more
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significant story. i kid. i'll explain my joke and then you break it down. i kid because the part we didn't even cover on "the beat" is insignificant, but the larger pattern, and you had a good piece writing about this today, seems to matter to american democracy. explain. >> well it, you know, anytime you get something wrong in a big way and, you know, it comes close to disinformation, it is a serious concern. one thing you left out in your excellent set-up is that donald trump joined the band wagon here and said that people behind the spying should be executed. he really said in stronger days that this would be considered treason and the penalty for that is execution. so here you have a leader of a party who may run for president who 10s of millions of people support saying that on the basis of this false reporting there should be executions.
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you can only imagine what this does to the minds of some deranged people who might be prone to violence. it's very dangerous to say these things. and you know, fox and others got it wrong but they got it wrong in a very willful way. i mean, i read that filing to begin with and if you understand the technical side of things, you know, it gets technical, i don't want to get bogged down here but clearly did not say anyone was hacking into servers, the white house, trump tower or trump campaign, yet that's what got reported and on fox news they said the clintonites had infiltrated, their word, infiltrated the trump campaign, trump white house. that word doesn't appear in the entire filing. it's just not there. so -- >> well that's -- let's get into that, david, because first of all, friday night on the east coast, some people eating dinner so i appreciate you not taking
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us deep into internet service protocol, because i don't want to go there more than anyone else but the higher level point you make is important. there was apparently willful deceit and mischaracterization to make it seem like people were committing crimes and if anyone made an honest mistake which again we're both journalists, we're all fallible, would report if they corrected themselves which they didn't, now you could go to a barbecue with anyone who watches fox they'll say i watched three days running that story, they didn't get the correction. how does that pollute our democracy and information environment? >> well, we can't have honest discourse in this country and honest political debate in the facts are perverted, you just can't do it, so if 10s of millions of people actually think the clinton and democrats
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committed a watergate level event against donald trump and he's exploiting it and using that to coalesce his hold on the party and going to demand other republicans say the same thing and if they don't, they'll be run from their lives in terms of the republican base, it all adds up to we're not talking honestly about things and therefore we can't deal with stuff. and this is really one of the best examples that we know seen in a long time. it's pretty unprecedented for a special council to come out and essentially say hey, you guys are, you know, getting it wrong and he's the guy out there who has been going after the democrats and the clintonites with cases some people think are weak and thin but put that aside. this is even too much for him. and even, and so, there's no correction, donald trump will keep saying that, you know, he was spied upon, 10s of millions of people will give him money
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with his fund raisers, you know, the emails, making these claims and will believe that and won't believe anything democrats say. won't believe that hillary clinton and joe biden really should belong in jail so it creates, you know, even more divisiveness that we need to have about the honest disagreements we have. we have honest disagreements in this country that divide us and that's one thing, but to have these, you know, propaganda, disinformation agreements that heighten things and that have a violent tinge to them with trump saying people should be executed for this, that really puts deeper into a hole and, you know, i'm not a big fox basher, but it really shows you just how much negative influence. >> fox basher -- you were a contributor there once, if i remember, right? >> i worked there for a couple years back in the 90s and when it was just conservative, not
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deranged. >> yeah. no, i think you make good points, including the fact that whoever they think durham is, they think durham is their guy, even he had to fact check them. if you had a classic rock lyric to sum it all up, but no pressure. >> fleetwood mac, tell me lies, teal me sweet little lies. that seems to be what the fox people want, they want things whether true or not but that will reaffirm they're hatred for clinton. look at jessie waters, they don't need the facts, these are just dormant. >> fleetwood -- well this is not the last we'll see of you, we love the fleetwood mac, david comes back for something special at the end of the hour so stick around. more coming up, i told you we'll stay on the civil rights cases. up ahead, why a family is speaking out. ahead, why a fami speaking out
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turning now to an update on police brutality and civil rights in america. today, a former police officer, kim potter was sentenced after something rare, the conviction for killing someone on duty. in this case, it was manslaughter for killing a 20-year-old daunte wright at a traffic stop, 2 years in prison, 8 unsupervised release, that is far less than what could be a standard sentence of about seven years. the judge found leniency in this rare, rare case where an officer was even charged and convicted for a shooting in the first place, judge called it, quote, a tragic mistake, and then got emotional during the sentencing. >> officer potter made a mistake that ended tragically. she never intended to hurt
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anyone. her conduct cries out for a sentence. a significantly below the guidelines. >> anyone can understand why there is emotion charged through these types of cases. i would note, that, though, the purpose of sentencing guidelines, the system of law, what judges are supposed to do is be fair and use reason, not appeals to emotion. and i can't tell you as an observer who she was crying for, but you can decide what you think. now, the facts of the case show that the fact that it was a mistake was not in doubt. but it was, excuse me, a reckless mistake, it took a life, irreversible action, wright's family and activists were outraged and potter also
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emotional and apologizing in court today to the wright's family. >> to the family of daunte wright i am so sorry that i brought the death of your son. father, brother, uncle, grandson, nephew, and the rest of your family. i am so sorry that i hurt you so badly. to the community of brooklyn center i do owe you an apology too. i loved working for you. and i am sorry what has happened to our community since the death of daunte. >> again, in the rare cases where these type of police brutality allegations or killings are prosecuted, we have often seen officers, ex-officers at that point, be less contrite so that statement there was striking and wanted to share it with you as well. intent matters in this type of
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case. this incident is one of a string where police are using force far more than they do in other countries and disproportionately against black and brown people, washington post tracks this independently and found police killed black americans at double the rate of white americans last year even after all the pressure, and talk of perhaps an overreach according to some conservatives in the blm movement, it turns out fatal police shootings were up. a new record with 1,055 people killed. the wright family says this is not justice. >> today, the justice system murdered him all over again. to sit there and watch pouring my heart out in my victim pact statement that took so long to write and i rewrit it over and over again, to not get a response out of the judge at all, but that when it came to convicting or sentencing kim potter she broke out in tears.
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it's been a week but it's still friday on "the beat" so it's time to fall back. we have two fantastic guests, the legendary d.j. garcia, film maker long time friend of "the beat" part of visionary, hey, hip-hop duo. they broke out some of hip-hop's most iconic arsonists you know like jay-z, eminem, nas and the purveyor of what is cool. he designed a 3 d animated virtual sneaker with the designer and equally hip, equally down in those beltway streets. i'm talking about david corn from mother jones, the author of
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three "new york times" best sellers. for up ending the presidential campaign when he broke the story of mitt romney's 47% comments. welcome to both of you. how are you guys doing? happy friday. >> good friday. >> miss you, my brother. [ laughter ] >> hey, it's a start. we'll get you in person soon enough. let go big on bob. let me see your setup. i know it cooler than anything david or i have. tell us about your room. >> i have my records in here, my sneakers, my theater posters for the films i directed and produced, my turntables. this is where it happens. this is where i record my sets. >> how many vinyl records? >> i don't know, about 2,000, 2500. it's not stunning the way some of my d.j. contemporaries might have a pretty light with it.
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just the music i know i'm going to play. >> david -- >> they're well organized. look, david corn only has eight vinyl records and they're all tom petty commemorative editions and what not. what's on your fall back list? [ laughter ] ♪ free falling ♪ >> you didn't know i know about that, right? >> no. what's on your list, man, you bobito. >> i want to quote a very amazing former lawyer now current tv personality named ari melbur who once told me, if you come looking like for the gym you may not be ready for tv. you remember saying that, ari? you crushed me on national television and i love you for that, but i will say that my style, my lifestyle that sort of sports lifestyle is stepping into new areas and recently
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there was an auction, one shoe, size 5 shoe sold for $350,000. the auction was to raise funds for a non-profit. they amounted to over a billion dollars and we see that the sports lifestyle is certainly breaking into new territories, new barriers and becoming more acceptable across the board and main stream and high fashion and even in auction houses, so i just want to say fall back to all the conservatives. ari, you're my man. you know i got nothing but love for you. >> i can take it. you're saying that people who are skeptical of street wear fashion and that whole movement which of course, is adjacent to hip-hop, we all need to open our minds because what is prestigious or culturally interesting might depend on the time era and people involved.
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that's why it's messed up, somebody said it. i think it was david. [ laughter ] >> now i'm really sorry i didn't change into my flash t-shirt. so i feel very over dressed for this segment. [ laughter ] >> what do you got, david? >> well, in a very different vain, i'm looking at the world's richest man, number one this month, $224 billion that is elon musk. what did he do this week? he tweeted out a meme that compared justin trudeau, that lovely prime minister of canada, very nice young man to adolph hitler. i mean, this guy, elon musk, i know he has his moments but he's smart enough to make a quarter of a trillion dollars, you know, everyone loves his cars. i hope i get one one day and he
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gave $6 billion away to charity it seems. it's kind of secretive a few months ago but he really didn't think twice about comparing the canadian prime minister to a guy who committed genocide. i mean, he doesn't ask me for advice too often but if he did, i think the first thing i would tell him now, richest man in the world, never go full hitler. pretty obvious but nevertheless, write that down. put that above your door. put it in your mirror when you shave. never go full hitler elon musk. so fall back on that. >> i think you get the last word on that it kind of like when they asked bill gates about e elon musk on covid and he said i don't know that's something he worked a lot on. you can be great at one thing and be out of your lane. bobito, final question, what are you optimistic about and joyous
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about. i found you to be someone who has a smile regardless of tough times and we've been going through them. that's a question to you. >> appreciate that. well, i feel that, you know, along with some of these auctioned off sneakers, they have an upcoming hip-hop auction and some of my memorabilia will be featured there. you know, i just, i'm talking to the smithsonian now as well about some of my collections. i love that hip-hop culture, sneaker culture, basketball culture, the things i represented for my entire life are coming to the foreground and really just making ripples to new audiences and opening up avenues. i'm fortunate to be part of that. >> i love that. i love the smithsonian. bobito, did jay-z not say i'm in
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the hall already, i'm on the wall already, i'm a work of art, i'm the war hall already. >> he did say that. great quote. >> he did say that. bobito and david to end the week. appreciate both of you. thank you to both of you. ta thanks for spending time with us on "the beat." "the reidout" is up next. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" on the on going russian stand off in ukraine. after increasingly dire warnings joe biden today addressed reporters and the nation on the rapidly escalating situation and when asked about vladimir putin's intentions he delivered this extraordinary news to the american people and to the world. >> do you have any indication about whether president putin had made a decision on whether to invade? do you feel confident that he hasn't already made that decision already? a

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