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go online today. >> the senate confirmation ♪ ♪ hearing of judge ketanji brown-jackson resumes tomorrow. the since the last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. e >> tonight, the fight for ukraine. a sign of hope as ukrainians retake i keep suburb. and russia steps up its assault from the sea. also, the american organization evacuating the most vulnerable ukrainians from the war zone. we will talk to a 9/11 first responder turned rescue earn ukraine. plus, history on capitol hill. judge ketanji brown jackson takes questions as republican senators dig in on culture wars. how the supreme court nominee responded and what to watch for
next as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening once again, i'm stephanie ruhle. the russian invasion of ukraine 's entering day 28. for full weeks of conflict that showed no sign of ending. but, today, the pentagon say ukrainian forces are having more success in pushing back the russians. >> we have seen indications that the ukrainians are going a bit more on the offense now. they've been defending very smartly. we've seen them now in places, particularly in the south, near kherson. they've tried to regain territory. we continue to see indications that russians did not properly plan for logistics and sustainment. we know that they continue to
have fuel issues across their force. and there is still struggling with food. the landscape on offense, the ukrainian military says it has recaptured a suburb to the west of kyiv, a move that can further slow a takeover of the capitol, as nbc's richard engel reports. >> with kyiv under a total curfew, ukrainian troops, today, one on the offensive. using hit and run tactics to drive back russian troops in the capital. ukraine's main objective now is to prevent russian forces from encircling kyiv, like they did to variable. this new drone video released by ukraine appears to show russian strikes on factories and industrial buildings. meanwhile, russia released new video of its attack on a shopping mall in kyiv this week, insisting ukraine was using it
as a sight to launch missiles and store ammunition. russia has met fierce resistance from ukrainians across the country. and now, for the first time today, a senior u.s. defense official says russia has lost more than 10% of its combat power in ukraine. increasingly, resistance is also inside russia, and the kremlin is trying to crush it. a russian court, today, sentenced putin's top critic alexei navalny to nine more years in a maximum security prison, allegedly for fraud. >> a senior defense official at the pentagon says russia is now firing on the embattled port city of mariupol from several ships, now off the southern coast of ukraine. new satellite image shows the damage from the relentless assault on the city, and the thousands of people still trapped there. russia struggled to take control of ukraine, it's raising concern about putin's next moves, and whether they
could include nuclear strikes. today, putin spokesman refused to rule that out. >> i want to know, whether you are convinced, or confident, that your boss will not use that option. >> well, we have a concept of domestic security. well, it's public, you can read all the reasons for our nuclear arms to be used. so, if it is an existential threat to our country, then it can be used in the accordance with our concept. >> that is concerning, tomorrow, president biden heads to europe for a emergency summit with the nato allies. -- according to the wall street journal, those sanctions will target russian lawmakers. nbc news has also learned, biden may announce a permanent
increase in the number of u.s. troops stationed in nato countries in the ukraine. let's bring in nbc's ali arouzi, live from ukraine tonight. ali arouzi, good to see, we appreciate you joining us, take us across the country to kyiv. ukrainians are just handing off russians anymore, they are fighting back and having success. tell us what is going on. >> that's right, the russians have made some advances on suburbs on the northwest of kyiv, they have controlled some key places there, but in other places like makariv, they have taken parts of makkari but the ukrainians pushed back hard, they were fighting fiercely and push the russians out of that very strategic area in the west suburb of kyiv. that's because give isn't a very strategic place, it's very strategic for the russians, and it's very hard for them to crack. it's a city on a hill it is heavily fortified it's got tight roads and streets where
the russian tanks can't really re-maneuver their way around. and of course the ukrainians aren't giving up their president is there and they are fighting for their capital. in other places stephanie, the situation is much worse, like mariupol that you mentioned. that city has been destroyed, it has borne the brunt of the russian attacks, it isn't the worst situation than any other place in ukraine. they've been circle that city, they are starving the population, constantly bombing and shelling and missile in that place. but, they haven't been able to capture it. that has made them resort to these starvation tactics, they've sparked a humanitarian crisis there. people there have no food, water, or electricity. we spoke to a young woman who had escaped give, just a few days ago, and she was painting a horrifying picture of what was going on there, let's take a listen to what she had to say,
and i can fill you in some more on the other side. >> we hoped not to die from hunger. it would be much easier to die immediately. my sister told me that if we run out of foods, we will commit suicide together. -- i feel constantly feel fear of that being repeated, i don't want to be surrounded by russians i want to be as far as possible from the place where they are. >> i mean, incredible to hear or think of them talking about a suicide pact, so she didn't have to suffer the pain of starving to death. stephanie, her journey out of mariupol was also really started to hear. they said that they had to go through russian checkpoints, she could only take her laptop in her sneakers with her as she ran away from the city.
she said, when they cross the russian checkpoints, the russian soldiers started taunting, her laughing at her, about what they are done to her city. her mother was in a car behind her, they pull the driver out of that car, stripped him, they saw a tattoo on him, accused him of being a sniper. he had to convince them that he wasn't a sniper, by being sympathetic to the russian invasion of his country. she said, if the russian trump didn't believe her, the mother wouldn't have gotten out of mariupol either. thankfully, they did get out, but for the other -- trapped in that, city it's a worst-case scenario, the russians are probably going to double down on their bombing in that city, and make little distinction between the armed forces there, and the battered civilians of mariupol. >> a young, healthy woman, making a suicide pact. ali arouzi thank you so much for joining us, i appreciate it, with that, i want to bring in our experts this evening. michael mcfaul, former u.s.
ambassador to russia, and an msnbc international affairs analyst. his book, entitled, from cold war to what piece, an american ambassador in putin's russia. ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president obama, and kevin baron, the executive editor of defense one, with more than 15 years in washington's defense, national security, and foreign affairs seen. ambassador mcfaul i ask you first, the pentagon says, russian troops continue having problems with basic supplies like food and fuel. you know kremlin better than anyone i know. is that what we should expect from putin's superpower? his boys don't have enough food or fuel? >> well, he is very frustrated. you don't need to have a ph.d. in russian studies to understand it, just listen to his speeches. he is mad, they are underperforming, he's removed some of his intelligence generals because of that, he is frustrated.
that's the good news, and by the way, the ukrainians i, just talk to a very senior official in ukraine today, in kyiv, with the zelenskyy government. they feel pretty good about the way they are performing. it's not just about capabilities, it's about will to fight. the cranes have the will to fight, the russians don't. the bad news, as you just reported, it is the flip side of what our pentagon just said. that is, 10% of them lost, that's very good news, that means 90% of putin's forces are still available to fight, and i see no indication, yet, that he is prepared to begin to sue for peace. this is not a stalemate on the battlefield, yet, and until there is a stalemate i don't think there's going to be a peace settlement. >> let's go back to the good news portion. kevin, we're hearing these reports that ukrainians are re-capturing territory. where do things stand in the fight on the ground? >> well, it's not a stalemate,
it's close on the ground. we keep hearing the last few days from panic, on or uk intelligence assessment that the russians have slowed their bombing, they slow their advances, and has been pointed out for days, it's in this kind of siege. so i think what a lot of us are looking for with this trip to nato, and to pull in from the president. what will be the next step that can really change the game. we're seeing a lot of big name national security leaders, and former leaders calling for things like humanitarian airlifts, or some sort of -- in western ukraine. some way for the nato countries in the united states, to carve out a piece, and get some kind of foothold in the country. just today, we had some op-ed from general brie love, former nato high commander, calling for these humanitarian
corridors. he said it could be done, it's been done in georgia, these are very risky proposition, some people there think there in, patients and people think they're absolutely necessary. but as he's big political movements of some kind that maybe the next big shift in what we're gonna see, it's not gonna be ukrainians gaining ground, or russians gaining ground. >> kevin, we've seen russia and what it's done to mariupol, it has decimated it. why haven't they been able to overtake the city? >> well, because they don't want to. we've sat all along, if putin wants to flatten ukrainians julie. if you want to send the entire army into take over ukraine, he could. initially, it was assumed that putin might carve out certain portions of the east, hope that the country's leadership would give up, and hand ukraine over to moscow, and that enough ukrainians would support, it and there you go, ukraine is part of the new russia. instead what happened is what we've seen happen. you give these fits and starts
of missile attacks, as we've seen some footage of -- cruise missiles coming from the ships. but there have been ships parked offshore that are loaded with a lot more missiles, they just have to fire them. which to do so again with flat in the city. again, most of western ukraine remains untouched, relatively. so again, this is not an operation of conquest, it's a psychological operation, as we keep being told. it really will come down to putin changing his calculus, and turning his troops around, which i don't know anybody who thinks that's gonna happen. or some other nato lead, u.s. lead change of policy, the changes the, game that forces putin's hand, and takes a risk that right now, a lot of the leaders seem to not yet be really willing to take. >> well, tomorrow, president biden is leaving for the nato summit in brussels. ben, you have been on these types of trips. do you forecast any big change in policy from the u.s. and our
western nato allies? >> i don't. i don't think that they're going to be looking at any kind of direct involvement in ukraine, either a humanitarian corridor in ukraine, or a no-fly zone would entail. i think what you'll see is them taking a lot of the emergency steps they put in place, and trying to figure out how to make that kind of standing policy, right? the united states has moved forces into eastern europe as a part of readministering those allies. i think whether gonna be talking about the summit is what is the long term force posture for the united states in this region. you see nato allies work together, not just for sanctions, but to provide an extraordinary amount of nato assistance to ukraine. i think you'll see them try to routinizes families, and discuss how they're gonna be able to make sure they can get all those weapons and systems into the ukrainians, across various border crossings. the political questions will be very prevalent at the summit, to. one of the areas under
negotiation, according to presidents lynskey himself, of course, is this demand from russia that ukraine declared neutrality, that it not join nato as part of any settlement. that's obviously not the preferred outcome for either nato or ukraine, but president zelenskyy himself has expressed frustration with nato's ability to stand for -- he'd be willing to entertain this. something nato has to think about is how does it approached it political negotiations as well. there's a lot to do, and a lot to cover, i think the president will be willing to signal unity, and signal increasing committed to ukraine, and signal increasing consequences on russia, and that's why they're preparing sanctions, and i'm sure the europeans will announce of sanctions incarnations with them, and in direct conflict with russia, i think that's not likely to come out. >> it's brussels where president biden needs to be, or does he need to stay on air force one and head straight to beijing and sit down wishing paying, face to face? >> it's interesting you would
say that, arguing billy the most important conversation that present biden had in the past several days was the one that he had with xi jinping. so there are things that -- on the unhelpful side, of the ledger, i think the united states is focused on dissuading china to provide arms to russia, the and -- second to that is sanctions, in china will try to -- discount price by providing technologies to russia that have been restricted under u.s. export controls. there i think the jury still out and want to see how things go moving forward. now, on the positive side, china could apply a some degree of leverage on russia to move towards a peace negotiation, or an actual peace deal. that doesn't seem to be coming out of beijing at this point. so i think for now, the idea is to reinforce the alliance of
the world's democracies that are standing up to putin, and that is part of the message to china. because part of what china was concerned about was -- the united states saying we will watch -- europe was sending that message to china. that's unusual to stand up to china like that. so by showing the reinforce nato and u.s. european alliance, the message is to putin but also to china. >> i have something else unusual, mcfaul, a pro kremlin tabloid said nearly 10,000 troops have been killed in ukraine, but then they deleted the report and claim they were hacked. what is your take on that? >> i saw that. i don't know what happened. i think it shows that there is, there's lots of people that think that a lots of -- 10,000 people died in this war. and they were reporting that on the outside and despite the fact that twitter and facebook have been banned but, and the
opposition television radio stations have been taken down, information is flowing into russia. i think that's important to remember. and i think we need to do more to get that information flowing to russia. so they understand what's the consequences of this war is. there is a draft coming up, the next cycle begins in april and in the last war that russia fought along those lines and chechnya 19 99 to 2000, when they destroyed the city of grozny, like they are doing with mariupol right, now they were the mothers of soldiers. a grassroots movement helped and the war. i hope we will see that kind of mobilization in the weeks and months to come inside russia. already, lots of brave people have been arrested there. and tens of thousands are being arrested, that means millions have the same view. they just want to go to jail for 15 years. >> well 10,000 soldiers, if that number is true, that means there are 10,000 mothers that
don't even know yet if their sons are alive or dead. when and if they do, could those kind of numbers be the force that pushes putin to stop or slow? 10,000 women, 10,000 women, 10,000 mothers? that's forceful. >> it's most certainly ended the war in chechnya. but russia was still a democracy back then. that was a war -- to russia today is a dictatorship. they just unjustly gave alexei navalny nine more years in jail. so it's not going to be as easy this time around. they've been co-opted and those kinds of organizations are now loyal to the state. but overtime, it will have cost. and it's not enough, i think, just to show up in brussels and have a statement of solidarity and sanctions. they'll have to be real sanctions and more military assistance to ukraine.
>> all right then. thank you all so much for starting us off this evening. ambassador michael mcfaul, ben rhodes, and kevin baron. coming up next, the nights other major story, a marathon question session for a supreme court nominee judge ketanji brown jackson. her response to republican attacks on her record. and then, how the world is reaching out to help millions of ukrainian refugees. at the 11th hour just getting underway on a busy tuesday night. tuesday night. >> tech vo: this customer had auto glass damage, but he was busy working from home... ...so he scheduled with safelite in just a few clicks. we came to his house... ...then we got to work. we replaced his windshield and installed new wipers to protect his new glass, while he finished his meeting. let safelite come to you. >> man: looks great. thank you. >> tech: my pleasure. that's service on your time. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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slogans to me. >> senator from missouri said in his tweets that judge jackson has a pattern of lead in child pornographer offenders off the hook for the crimes. >> as a mother and a judge who has had to deal with these cases, i was thinking that nothing could be further from the truth. >> just a little while ago, supreme court nominee, ketanji brown jackson, wrapped up more than 13 hours of answering senators questions. as the new york times any carney points out, today was just a preview of likely gop campaign attack lines. >> in your understanding, what does critical race theory mean? >> can you provide a definition of the word woman? >> the fact that you can't give me a straight answer about something as fundamental as would a woman's underscores the
dangers of the kind of progressive education that we are hearing about. >> how important is your faith to you? on a scale from 1 to 10, how faithful would you say you are? >> to take a guy who is 18 years old, who says that -- pripyat sent pornography. and then you give him three months when, frankly, a liberal prosecutor is asking for two full years. >> back with us tonight, former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor, and our dear friend jeff bennett, chief washington post -- nbc news political contributor. joyce, you love that line of questioning by the gop? fox news. because it's part of the culture wars that have nothing to do with confirming a supreme court justice. so let's get to the facts. pete williams provided factual context to that very case that
senator hawley was referencing. watch this. >> the specifics in this case suggests that this was a and ten year old who was curious about this kind of sexual activity that he sought out. the court records show that a detective, when he realized that this young man was uploading some of this, contacted him and said, how would you like to have real sexual activity with my 12 year old daughter, which was make belief. and this young man's never responded to it. so there was a psychiatry as to evaluated the young man and said this was basically his sort of curiosity about a specific kind of sexual activity. he wasn't interested in younger people. he was just sort of curious about this for his own purposes that he was not a pedophile. >> those are the facts. but the facts do not matter to the republicans here. none of these things matter.
it's a show to hear them. so are they actually asking her anything, or are they just creating soundbites to confuse the american people about who judge jackson isn't what she represents? >> on the one hand, republicans complain that they didn't know what judge jackson's judicial theory was. they didn't know what principles she used when she went about the business of judging. but they asked painfully a few questions designed to figure out what her judicial philosophy was. and instead, they stuck on issues like this one. and i think pete's explanation, of that one particular case that senator hawley focused on, really helps us understand the answers that judge jackson was trying to give. she was trying to explain some very difficult and nuanced federal sentencing law, which requires federal judges to consider a large variety of factors before they arrive at a sentence that is no longer, no length or, then necessary to
achieve the goals of the criminal justice system. it's almost mind-boggling to try to explain in just a few short sentences as the judge did how that process works. but senator laura hawley, a law educated lawyer, should've known, it should've understood that she was [inaudible] seemed more interested, as you said stephanie, in -- future campaign then getting to the heart of her qualification to sit on the supreme court. >> of course, joyce, senator hawley. he did know. he's banking on the fact that his voters don't. jack, the rnc posted this nonsensical tweet, tying judge jackson to critical race theory. chris coons used his time to fact check that. watch this. >> have you ever used, employed, relied upon critical race theory to determine the outcome of any case or to oppose any
sentence, or as a framework for your decision-making? >> no, senator. >> would you just explain to us briefly what kind of factors you do consider in your analysis? senator, when i analyze the case, i am looking at the arguments that the parties raise in the case, i am looking at the record which is the facts of the case. >> is that all they've got, jeff? >> look,, you call that tweet nonsensical, i talked to a number of judge jackson's supporters today, that view the tweet to be racist on its face, to suggest that judge jackson just by virtue of her very person, it is some kind of avatar for critical race theory, it does appear to be all that they have. republicans today tried to paint her as a crt activist, and painter as soft on crime,
paint her as an advocate of people who seek to exploit children. and yet, this is someone who has been three times confirmed by the senate, twice for a seat on the judicial branch at the federal level, and once for the sentencing commission, as a report for the -- police chiefs across the country, and some 83 retired states attorney general. it just doesn't hold up against the facts. that is not a partisan statement, it's just a statement of fact based on her background, her credentials, and the many voices, democrat and republican, who have come out in support of her. >> here is a fun fact, judge jackson herself ruled for the rnc in a case during the height of the 2016 presidential race. that case got thousands of hillary clinton's emails. republicans know this, obviously holley and ted cruz later not care. where are the mitt romney
republicans here? >> that's a really interesting question, we know that when judge jackson was confirmed to the court of appeals just last year she picked up three republican votes. that is the real issue we are looking at here. it seems very likely that she will be confirmed following these hearings. the issue is whether it will be a bipartisan vote, and if she'll pick up those same three votes that she picked up the last time -- lindsey graham from north carolina, or whether there might be mitt romney or other moderate senators who might view this judge whose qualifications are just immaculate. she spent time as a lawyer in private practice, she worked as a federal defender the appellate level but. she really brings to the supreme court a skill set that they will that's really neat and replacing justice breyer, this federal sentencing skill set but she possesses because of her work on the united
states sentencing commission. it's tough to make a principled case that you shouldn't vote for this judge based on her credentials the issue is whether some of the republican senators will find their way there as well. >> how about democratic? once it does judge jackson have enough support people like joe judge jackson kyrsten sinema, could be a surprise every now and then. jeff? >> look, even though sinema and manchin have really bedeviled so much of joe biden's domestic agenda, when it comes to judges they have voted in support of all of his judicial nominees so far. so it looks like democrats do have the 50 votes they need, and to joyce's great point as to whether or not there will be republicans who come on board our team spoke with senators collins and romney today, and neither of them were in anyway moved by the lines of attack that we heard today from senators cruz, hawley, and later you can add blackburn. the conservative national
review saying that hawley accusations against judge jackson were merit-less to the point of demagoguery, and there are certainly more republicans than those who work at the national review who believe that stuff. >> merit-less to the point of demagoguery, the words of the national review, we're gonna leave it there. our thanks to joy events and jeff bennett on this tuesday night. thanks guys. coming up, the 9/11 first responder, a u.s. combat veteran now in ukraine. helping to lead an unarmed mission to get people out safely. when the 11th hour continues. ontinues [ doorbell rings ] oh! there's my little nephew. he looks more like dad every time i see him. -dad is old. -right. so, your message said you wanted to talk about insurance? i said, "i want you to talk about insurance." well, most people know that bundling home and auto -saves you money. -keep saying your words. but did you know that new customers who bundle and save with progressive can save an average of $800? shh. sleeping baby. i love you, too.
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began, millions of people have fled ukraine. but for those who are unable to leave on their own, aid groups are stepping in. one of those organizations's project dynamo, which recently rescued three nor born babies from kyiv, and delivering them safely to poland. >> it's kind of hard to see. but, there they are. they are in their. the doctor is in there, and there is katya. we are in the snow. the doctors are doing a quick check while we get some gas, everything is great let's see what we can see on the side. there they are in there. >> let us bring in that hero.
former army and navy combat veteran brian stern. he was a 9/11 first responder, now the cofounder of project dynamo, which is how did last year to help evacuate americans from extended stan, and is now rescuing people from a war in ukraine. brian, thank you for what you are doing. help us understand what's are the last six months looking like for you and projects -- how did you end up in ukraine? >> we came here, my team and i came here about a week before the war, just a set conditions for rescue operations, the bill that committed fiscal infrastructure, so in the event that war broke out, we'd be kind of ready to react. the war in afghanistan, we showed up and it was already ongoing. the war in ukraine -- it's worked out, where able to do our first rescue in the first 16 minutes of the hostilities opening on the 24th, we are already here. it's been dynamic, it's been crazy, it's been a team event. my team is awesome.
my case managers are the real unsung heroes, my field guys are tremendous. and we're definitely in it to win it, that is for sure. >> so, for people who are in need of help, and there are millions of them. how do they find you? >> sometimes it is a referral, but the biggest way is through our website, project dynamo dot org. it's also where you can donate, we are donor funded. we're all volunteers, i'm a volunteer, so every dollar that you give those to rescue, goes to saving someone's life. project dynamo dot org is also where you can register to get evacuated. if you don't find us, then we don't know to get you out, or where you are, or all your particulars. it's really important people register, and if they need evacuation, if you don't, that's great, but if you do let us know, we will take care of you. >> some parts of the country, though, are basically cut off. like the city of mariupol. can he even get there? can those people communicate with you if they need to? >> depends on where, there are
some places that are really hard, just the other day we rescued robert platt, who's an 82nd airborne paratrooper and retired. he was in the russian corridor for the offensive give, he had russian tanks parked on the street. we are able to affect that rescue, also. some things are very difficult, but we tend to take on those cases, honestly. because, they need to be taken on. we're not afraid of hard, we are not afraid of difficult, we are not afraid of trying to figure a problem out. -- >> is there a massive waitlist? how many people have registered? >> so, our database right now is about 14,000 people, but that data is a little misleading, because of that 14, 000, a lot of people registered with us and were able to self-evacuate, which is exactly what we want. 14,000 registrations, are
14,000 people asking for help, but a lot of those people have already gotten out. but we go by location, and we go by destiny matching. >> quickly, before we go, i need to ask you about one rescue did, a recent mission, twin babies and their surrogate, you got them out of ukraine and safely to poland, where their american dad was waiting. what was that like for you, and for him? >> actually, on that mission, there were three babies. there is a british premature baby also named sofia. and the only way i can describe it is like peanut delivery room nurse, they had not -- met their children before. whose car like hey papa, right get ready to be a papa. it is really, really endearing. i love the baby operations, we did when yesterday, and it's a way for us to find a little bit of happiness and smile in this terrible war. >> a lot of happiness, and people can help the
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stories of everyday people, putting their lives on hold to help those who have had to leave their lives behind. i can't emphasize two enough how much this really has struck me as a completely bottom-up effort. the government is doing a lot, nonprofits are doing a lot, but really so much of the support for these refugees, from housing to food to just mental and emotional support has come from every day people. today, we met a very special woman in mariana. she herself fled ukraine, she was living in kyiv and she fled tel aviv. and then, across the border here to poland. once she arrived here she immediately saw the need to help other ukrainian refugees. we met her today volunteering at an operation called soup for ukrainians, she was helping to feed refugees arriving at the train station here in krakow, but while she is helping people
here right now, she also knows so many family members, friends, people back in ukraine. take a listen to some of our conversation with them. >> how would you describe what you're feeling right now? >> it's hard to describe. >> it's difficult. >> [interpreter] because it's your homeland. your people. most of your relatives, peaceful people, are dying. -- it's easy to rebuild the buildings and. but, you can't return the people. it is very cruel. because, they are killing the peaceful people. people are going to --
to get water. and they're shooting these people. >> steph, the government, though, is stepping up their efforts. even today, we heard in the train station and announcement that ukrainians can take the train for free throughout the country. we are going to see more and more of these kinds of steps stephanie. >> our thanks to dasha burns, let's bring in my good friend and colleague, ali velshi, joining us from warsaw, poland, tonight. ali, poland has not been so welcoming with refugees before. this time is clearly different. what are you seeing? >> yeah, in the syrian refugee crisis, poland wasn't winning any awards for their treatment of refugees. much better this time, as joshua was saying, she was describing ukrainian refugees can use the transit system for free here in warsaw. they can do a lot of things for free. in fact, you can sign up for the polish equivalent of social security number. it gives you access to education, health care, to be able to work.
lots of people are doing it. remember, if you look at all these refugees who have left ukraine, 300, 000, more than 350,000 are in this city alone,, in warsaw. it's massive, the response, it's been very positive. unlike hungary, it's much more coordinated by the government here in poland. a very warm reception that they are getting here in poland. there is an issue that there are so many of them that the polish authorities, including the mayor of the city are warning that if they don't get enough help from the rest the world, financially and taking out these refugees, they're gonna run of the space. >> ali, i can't let you go without asking you, there's new reporting tonight about this mystery super yet. who possibly owns it? you've got some reporting, tell us. >> yes, there is this one yet, pretty much you can always tell who owns a yacht. there is one sitting off the coast of italy, it's one of the fanciest yachts around, it has to have a pads, it has a pool
table that adjusts mechanically for the waves. it's got a panel that plays itself. a group of activists in russia, journalists, have determined that this is vladimir putin's yacht. this is what they do, they were protesting the extra sentencing of alexei navalny, the sort of leader of the opposition movement in russia. but they found is that the crew on that yacht, everybody except the captain's russian, which should be explainable, except all of the russians who were on the staff also happen to be on vladimir putin staff. they not only are on the staff, they are sort of the equivalent of the secret service in russia. so, they've put this all together and said that it only makes sense that this would be vladimir putin's yacht. of course, we don't have a lot of transparency in his wealth, but there is some people who think he may be one of the richest people in the world, if not the richest man in the world. largely because of the kickbacks that occur under his watch. >> now, government employee for decades, possibly the richest man in the world. just quickly, i know we have no
more time, but the vote hasn't been seized yet, has it? >> it is not been seized yet. in fact, that's actually what's been happening. they are seizing yachts because they know who owns them. this yacht does not have a registered owner, and that's why these journalist have said it's vladimir putin's yacht that is not been confirmed by authorities who can actually take possession of it. >> all right then ali velshi, always good to see you. thank you. coming up, why even vladimir putin's very expensive jacket is part of the russian propaganda machine, when the 11th hour continues. houcor ntinues. pirin could be hurting your stomach. vazalore 325 liquid-filled aspirin capsule is clinically shown in a 7 day study to cause fewer ulcers than immediate release aspirin. vazalore. the first liquid-filled aspirin capsules...amazing! >> tech: cracked windshield? make it easy and schedule with safelite, vazalore. because you can track us and see exactly when we'll be there. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: that's service that fits your schedule. go to safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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laurel piano, it cost a whopping 14 grand. this, as we're seen reports out of moscow, of shortages of basic things like -- out of touch with ordinary russians. npr reports that according to fashion history journalist marlene kumar, it's part of the carefully curated way that putin tends to present himself to the world. the code is a strategic part of putin's propaganda machine, which operates to combat reports per train russia as a poor, suffering country anna on the brink of collapse on the behind its exterior image. on the other side, we have president volodymyr zelenskyy, as a former actor he is far more aware than most of the importance of image. he is often seen wearing a simple green t-shirt a military garb timothy kristin campbell tells npr this, by wearing t-shirts and hoodies, the youthful, egalitarians form of silicon valley, rather than suits, zelenskyy is projecting confidence and competence in a
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