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live in l.a. for you, monday the 28th of march. >> wow. >> just a few minutes after this happened, will smith won best actor for his performance in king richard. >> with tears rolling down his face, will smith was forced to uses acceptance speech to apologize to the academy for slapping chris rock. >> president biden was not calling for a regime change when he called for putin to not remain in power. >> mister president were you calling for a regime change? >> no. >> more talks taking place this morning with president zelenskyy suggesting that ukraine could adopt a neutral status as part of a deal with russia. >> the government pledges to drive up standards for math and english in schools, speaking to
the education secretary in just a few moments. plus, one city to lockdowns, shanghai to shut down one half at a time in a bid to halt rising covid cases. also on the program for you this morning, wherever you are watching us around the world, we will speak to a group of vets who have come together 12 people and animals alike in ukraine. and william and kate caribbean tour, we will talk about how some things go badly wrong with the royal biographer. >> morning everybody, it was an extraordinary night at the oscars in the space of a few moments, will smith came onstage and appeared to smack the host chris rock in the mouth for making a joke about his wife. and then he won the award for best actor.
>> wow. wow. >> >> smith won best actor for his portrayal of richard williams, the father who raised tennis star venus and serena. accepting the award, he offered a tearful apology to the academy. >> i know to do what we do, you've got to be able to take abuse. you've got to be able to have people talk crazy about you. and in this business you have to be able to have people disrespecting. i want to apologize to the academy, i want to apologize to all of my fellow nominees. >> more on the oscars later in the program, first the education sector is with us. thank you for so much for joining us on the program. we will hear more about the education wiper. we are very keen to highlight the increase or likely increase in funding, returning to 2010
levels by 2020 4:25. why do you think that is a success? >> we had to come through the financial crisis. and of course, then the pandemic, where we have put forth 100 billion to work towards supporting jobs and the economy. to be able to then in the spending review to have seven billion being invested in schools and education. taking the total budget for schools alone to over 56 billion. my total budget in the education department is 86 billion by 2020 4:25. and i think that is important. which is why, by the way that seven billion is front loaded, so four billion of it is coming early to make sure that we have the investment in our schools. teachers have done an excellent job to make sure that 9.9% of schools opened and remain open through omicron. so that investment is really important. it means that we can complete
the journey. which is why my white paper does, of a family of schools, which all of the evidence suggests that schools that work together and are managed well and supported by strong, and i underlined strong, a high performing multi academy trust. deliver outcomes for the children. i'm very fond about talking about why background, being an 11 year old who could not speak a word of english. but my parents pushed me and look where i am today. i want the system to work for every child. even those whose parents who don't have the wherewithal, or you not have parents. that is with the white paper will do. it is a real ambitious target to make sure that every school in our country is high performing in that family of schools working together. let's go back to why you say there have been challenges on the budget. of course it has affected every department, but the health budget has increased by 42.4%
by 2025 since 2010. department of educational in 2.8%. >> so what it has done, if you look across government, and health has had a big uplift because of the pandemic. i was the vaccine deployment minister in health at the time. education has gone up in the sense that we have seven billion going into schools. we've got 3.8 billion going into skills. you see on my lapel that tail t levels. it's a fusion between a level and a apprenticeship. that is the tea level. we make the most famous is a levels. the university now accepts two levels. or english trainer work. so look, the investment is there, and the white paper airlines how we are going to get there. the first thing you've got to do by the way, the most important thing by the way a
great teacher. we are investing from the early careers framework. to the initial teacher training. to the professional development. big investment in teaching. big target to take at the moment, only two thirds of children complete primary school with the ability to read, write, and do math with unacceptable level. two thirds, that's not good enough. i want to get that to 90%. >> we don't spend enough money. >> a couple of weeks ago, on schools you are right up there in terms of investment in education. compared to other countries. and that is a good thing now, how that money is spent. >> the netherlands consistently since places hire in world education rankings.
>> i've got five billion, as well as seven billion in catch-up money. >> i wasn't interested in how many vaccines we had in the warehouse, i was interested in how many peoples arms. about five billion to spend. as part of, that getting children with the least time left in education, 100 million of that money. and of course focusing on disadvantaged children in primary and secondary. let me get that money into the system. make sure that those students are getting that additional help, which they are. we've got 1 million blocks of tutoring that have already been delivered. we are going to deliver another million by the end of the school year. 6 million in total by the end of this. and i will always be data driven, evidence driven. i will evaluate, a look at how far we've got. we are doing well on primary school, reading and math. we need to do better at secondary and i will always go back for more, but let me get
this right. there's no point having an arms race. announcing how much i'm spending. we've got to make sure, scale is hard in everything you do. i've got 22,000 schools in england. i want to complete that journey. but completed with quality. >> the catch up to that sir kevin collins resigned, didn't he? the proposal he sent to the government was for 15 billion pounds of funding. why did he resign? >> there was clearly a disagreement as to the -- >> you take people, on me is an expert and you ignore him. >> i worked with him when i was in children's and families department four years ago. >> why did he resign? >> there was a disagreement. what i'm saying to you, i've got seven billion going into investment in schools. i've got five billion on recovery. let me do this well and i can
demonstrate to the rest of the country how well we have done on catch-up. tutoring used to be the privilege of fortunate parents, wealthy parents. it is now available to every parent and i want parents watching this program to ask their schools, are they participating in the natural tutoring program. because we want to make sure that we deliver 15 hours of tutoring for children, for recovery. >> we have five billion. >> 15 billion this with the catch up. >> with respect, i'm not interested in announcing numbers. i'm saying how we are going to spend. >> you say that you are not interested, but we have the numbers from the chancellor saying that the big cheers in the house of commons are going to take you back up to 2010 levels. 14 years after we talk power. how is that successful? >> i'll tell you why. because we've had to come through a financial crisis. if we had not taken the tough
decisions then, we would not be able to spend the 400 billion, 400 billion. that the chancellor spent protecting jobs, protecting small businesses. making sure that 14 million people had that net of protection through the furlough scene. and then we were hit by a global pandemic. >> other departments had that problem as well, and it's chump shane compared to what you're getting. i hear what you're saying about them needing the money. let us talk about kids in schools to. when it comes to, food a lot of them need to have a hot meal at school. because that is the only time that they get it. half 1 million children are in absolute poverty. >> i saw the resolution found ending where you are referring to. what the chancellor has done is marked 22 billion for this year coming. because we are in a global battle against inflation, so what does that mean, it means that your utility bills are
increasing. 22 billion for one year of help. nine billion of it is going into helping people with energy costs. he's already announced that in february. we will always review that and we'll look at what more we can do. but this friday, the national living wage will increase. 1000 pounds i'm sure that you will be as appalled as i was to hear about a 14 year old boy who was in the food bank, and collapsed through hunger and had to be taken to hospital. that is 21st century britain? come on. >> i agree, that is heartbreaking, which is why i'm saying to you, that the money, the 22 billion, i'm trying to tell you where it's going. going towards energy. the chancellor in the spring statement double the amount going to local government. your question, one is worth will know where those families are that need the most help. but once that you just described to me at the food bank. or the ones who are really struggling with their utility bills.
which is why he doubled the amount going to local governments, so that we can help those people directly and be able to go to those houses and say there's help available for you. 22 billion in one year. that is a big number. but we are not saying job done, we are saying that we will keep an eye on this. prices are volatile at the moment. there is a global battle against inflation in america, in europe, everywhere. >> but no school child should go hungry. >> i do not disagree. i introduced the holiday food program. we started with 10 million pounds. it's now running at 220 million a year, we've got the funding from the next three years to continue to delivery. we are coming into the holiday period now. i am very proud of the work that we have done on the. we continue to support, we've just announced free school meals for parents with no recourse to public funds. which is important, to make
sure that the child does not go hungry. so we are doing a lot of work in this area. in the department and the important thing, is education as actually unlocks opportunity. beginning to sink in the language. i remember having to learn, read, trying to speak as well as i can. and when i started to think in the language, and the best thing that i can do for children is to make sure that there is a great teacher. with a school that is strong and well supported everywhere, from mosely to kensington, i believe that a child and mostly is less talented than a child in kensington. just do not have the opportunity and i'm going to deliver that for them. >> why do you think it is appropriate to stop having free lateral protest for staff particularly. the secretary of state could say more on this on the 1st of april and what we are doing on testing, the important thing to remember is that we have to live with the virus.
and our first line of defense's vaccine, is already announced a further forth job for the most vulnerable. the second line of defense is the therapeutics, the antivirals which he's had the foresight to buy those as well and now in some parts of the economy, where we need to have further work in terms of testing, he will say more on that. but actually, between vaccine and our radar system, the ability to genome sequence, i think we are in a strong place to now continue to live with the virus. we don't know for how long, maybe five, six, seven, ten years. >> but if people are going to elderly care homes or whatever, and they need to have a test in order to go into that. is that the average calculation that is a tax on caring. he will say more about what will happen on lateral flow
devices, on the 1st of april but ultimately we are going to have to live with this virus, and it is through the vaccination program that you are going to protect populations. it is great that the uk population now has very high level of antibodies, because of the vaccination program, not just the one that i was responsible for. and the booster campaign where he delivered so brilliantly. and of course, now the fourth job. and antivirals and therapeutics where we transition this virus from pandemic to endemic. we are well on our way, watching what is happening in china. this idea where people had zero covid strategy and it is clearly not working. this is a virus that is aerosol transmitted. it is a respiratory virus, it's never going to work. the best thing that you can do is protect the population through vaccination and continue to make sure that the protection is there for the most of vulnerable all of the time. >> we are almost out of time, i
wanted to ask about what president biden said. did he misspeak when he was talking about regime change? >> both the white house and the president have been clear on this. we are in lockstep, but it is up to the russian people to decide who governs them and the future of their country. >> i hear you. >> it's up to the russian people. the russian people are fed up. not only because they're watching their friends, and some of them have family in ukraine being attacked. by the putin regime. clearly war crimes have been committed, because they are targeting innocent civilians in civilian areas. the deputy prime minister is working with the international criminal court to make sure that evidence is not -- but i think president biden's right to say that putin has no place in the ukraine. that they have to make sure that they withdraw from ukraine, because it is an illegal invasion of ukraine.
i think he's absolutely right in that. ultimately, it's the russian people who decide. warcrimes have been committed in ukraine, no doubt in my mind the evidence is clear on that. it's a right to collect that evidence, because it is important. my family had experience with saddam hussein and it is important to dictators understand that there will be a reckoning. and that reckoning will come through the international criminal court in the hag, as we've seen in bosnia and other parts of the world. and it's really important. this is not something that should be taken lightly. that somebody can go in to the country illegally it's the ball big civilian issue that there is no response from the community. and i think in many ways, the coming together of the world in
this way has sent a very clear message to any dictator that they will not get away with it in 2022. >> great to see you as always, thank you very much indeed for joining us minister. quick look at what is happening as far as the papers are concerned this morning. front page of the telegraph leads with the light of joe biden's comments about a regime change in russia. they say president macron of france has been trying to mitigate the political damage. the eye leads on claims from ukrainian military intelligence that russia is planning to split the country into two, along the lines of north and south korean. the express reports that the chancellor is planning to cut council tax for millions of people to help with the cost of living crisis. finally, the star focuses on the way that -- the mass sackings earlier this month, with the headline all at sea. >> turn into the oscars, accepting his award for best actor, will smith said he
wanted to apologize to the academy. i want to apologize to all of my fellow nominees, just a few minutes earlier he had walked onto the stage and slapped the committee and chris rock for making a joke about his wife. here's katie spencer. >> oh wow. wow. >> it was not supposed to be like this. will smith going off script. losing his temper at chris rock. >> he my wife's name out of your mouth. >> i'm going to, okay? >> having enough of jokes that his wife jada's expense. >> that was the greatest night in the history of television. >> i know to do but we do, you've got to be able to take abuse and you've got to be able to have people talk crazy about you. in this business, you've got to be able to have people
disrespecting. and you've got a smile and pretend like that is okay. and at your highest moment, be careful, that is when the devil comes free. >> his speech becoming a disturbing demonstration of the pressure of fame and intensity of hollywood. >> will smith trauma aside, a landmark moment for representation as a little in the film called code at one best picture. and for an event fame for self indulgence, there is a lot of compassion for others in the speeches. >> this is dedicated to the deaf community. >> sir kenneth branagh dedicating his oscar to others. we will never forget all of those lost in heartbreaking, heartwarming, human story of that amazing city of belfast. and jessica chastain echoing that theme. >> suicide is a leading cause
of death in the united states, has touched many families, has touched mine and especially members of the lgbtq community. would inevitably future the ukrainian warm mila kunis. >> recent global events have left us got it. witnessing the strength and dignity of those facing devastation, it is impossible not to be moved by their resilience. will no doubt be remembered as the one where will smith slapped chris rock. rather than celebratory thanks, a winner forced to say sorry. >> i want to apologize to the academy, i want to apologize to all of my fellow nominees. hope the academy of invites me back, thank you. >> katie is with us now in l.a.. hi katie, looks like you are having a ball, love the dress, love it. while on earth was all of that about? >> what a strange night. nobody saw that coming.
i have to say, look, vanity fair is the party where they all come to turnout with their gold statuettes. been trying to stop people and get their reactions and find out what they thought about what happened tonight. will smith of, course a hugely popular man in this town. nobody is willing to say anything so far. nobody's wanting to comment. a lot of people who were at the oscars that we spoke to, kevin costner, he was backstage at the time, backstage, didn't see it, don't want to comment on. one of those things, just a strange moment. when we watched it, we first thought, is this some sort of staged choreographed moment. it just did not seem like something that will smith, hollywood's nice man would end up do it. in his defense, should be taken to account the fact that he has been under tremendous amount of pressure this award season. focus has been entirely on that him throughout this. this was his moment. 30 years within the industry.
he is pretty much running his night. it's all anyone's going to be talking about. the speech that he gave, he was in tears, talking about protecting his family. and it up having to be an apology to the academy. certainly did not go to plan. very unlikely he is going to turn up here. i have to say, we will be trying tonight to get some reaction. but certainly i think that everybody is just a bit stunned that this happened. couple of years now since people have been together. excitement getting to the vanity fair party, etc, etc. >> yes,, absolutely, always quite fun, especially when people come through. it's been a great night. winning best actor for the live action short. just a few months ago.
also had sir kenneth bryan on winning. it was touch and go. thankfully he managed to make it to the ceremony to pick up his first oscar. hoping that they will come all the way tonight. as you can see out of the corner of my eye, the people from doing coming across with the most awards tonight. picking up six. it's been a really good night. completely overshadowed by this strange moment with will smith. so i would imagine he's going to bed not sort of feeling like he has done a very good job of performing tonight. >> kate, you thank you. still to come on the program for you this morning, at 7:30, joined by an adviser to the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy to get his view on the latest round of peace talks. we will get reaction to what we just heard from the general secretary of the national
education union. just after a, we will speak to alison mcgovern of the cost of living crisis. ving crisis. >> before that, the chinese city of shanghai will see a two part lockdown seeing authorities rula experimental covid testing regime. tom has more for us in beijing. hi tom, just when we thought it was safe to not have the lateral flows anymore, this is happening. >> good morning. it inching, high 26 million people are going to be locked down. but this is china's zero covid strategy. and it has worked really well so far. only registering around 4600 official deaths. but omicron has arrived here, we've seen waves, outbreaks, all around the country. some cities have locked down entirely. some provinces a lockdown entirely, sealed themselves off from china. she has been trying to do something different, targeting,
lockdowns getting individuals to stay home. now have a full on lockdown to restrict the spread, just to lockdowns that they can get 26 million people tested over the course of eight days. saying that lockdown will come to an end. this precision testing on mask ill if you will. but the question is becoming, can china keep the zero covid up. lots of cases in shanghai, will they have to lock down, it's the only tool they have left. will china ever learn to live with covid. no indication from the authorities yet that they are willing to change their approach, especially with their elderly population relatively unvaccinated. this is about buying, time beating off this wave to build those defenses, so that china finally can someday down the line live with covid. >> thanks tom for explaining that to us. it's been lovely hasn't it through the last few days, standby. days, standby.
>> cooler and unsettled this week. it was nipsey this morning. some people might even see a bit of snow. w. >> check out these pictures that we found you in the papers this morning. katie in charge of paper pictures. thousands of people have fled their homes as a volcano erupts. looking at this image in the telegraph and this is an elderly lady as you can see who has succumbed to events in ukraine. and the eye has a picture of barber that southern bees which happens to be a massive 32 feet
long depiction of the battle in india, taken place between the british east indian company troops and they sold him back in 1780. clash described as a severest blow that the british ever sustained. pretty comprehensive free. set to go to auction on wednesday. expected to fetch between five and 800,000 pounds. which is nice. and the times, this is kirsty mcleod, from glastonbury. she spent 13 years working with 343 artisans from 46 different countries, embroidering the stress to tell women stories and there you go, how stunning is that, gloria's. also coming up for you, in just a few moments time, speaking with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy's economic advisor, quite a sentence in
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>> hello again. monday morning show for you on sky news. hope you are ready for the week ahead. the weather is going to get colder, we will tell you more about that to come. first, our top stories for you this morning. >> wow. wow. >> will smith has apologized after slapping chris rock shortly before winning the oscar for best actor at the ceremony in los angeles. president biden said that he was not calling for a regime change in russia when he said that vladimir putin cannot remain in power. and the education sector has told its program that the report of children collapsing at food banks's heartbreaking. as the government plans to send
out its new school wide paper. last half an hour, the energy -- no children should go hungry in 21st century britain. >> i'm sure he would be as pulled as i was to hear about a 14-year-old boy who was in the queue at a food bank and collapsed from hunger and had to be taken to hospital. let's time for central britain, come on? >> i agree with you. that's heartbreaking. that's what i'm saying to you, the 22 billion, trying to describe where it's going. nine billion towards energy. doubling the amount going to local government. we'll know where those families are that made the most help. i also spoke to the education secretary about unfolding events in ukraine. he told me that he thinks warcrimes being committed in the country and said they would be a reckoning for dictators. >> i think war crimes are being committed in ukraine, no doubt. in my mind, the evidence is
clear on that. it is right to collect that evidence because it is important. my family had experience with saddam hussein. it's important that dictators understand that there will be a reckoning. >> here with us now for her take on what is going on. tomorrow, quick thoughts on what you heard? >> the education secretary says he is appalled by the idea that children are going hungry in 2022. he is announcing a whole load of new targets today for schools, including that children leaving primary school should be meeting acceptable standards in reading, writing and math. saying only 65% of them do at the moment. he wants it to be 90%. in 2030, still some way off. now, labor and unions are saying does this whole plan lack ambition. is this what parents should expect already. some in the education world
saying this cannot be divulged from the cost of living crisis, because of children have not got enough food, i've got enough heating, not in the right housing, then it is difficult for them to meet these targets at school. the education secretary says that although there is not new money being announced today, that all of the money, five billion pounds announced four after covid would feed into this. and still, there's been a lot of criticism that even the government has already announced like tutoring for those falling behind, have not been as well targeted as they could have been. he will be judged on whether he's targets are advanced towards. of course these targets are still years away from being realized. also talked about ukraine. let's talk about in more detail. president zelenskyy has suggested that the government shouldn't announced neutrality as part of an agreement with russia. more peace talks will take place today in turkey. speaking to oleg, economic
adviser to the ukrainian president. hello, thank you so much for taking the time to join us on the program. let me just start with the. situation update. what is it like in kyiv today? >> the whole night we've heard sirens. all the time. people hidden in bomb shelters all the time. a couple of hours of peace time. where people were able to get up from the bomb shelters. russians continue to bomb the whole country. already some cities are completely destroyed. for example, the city of mariupol. we've seen before. completely destroyed. not like 95%. completely destroyed. will not be able to find any place in the city which is not destroyed. 60, 70% of the city destroyed. russian soldiers bomb.
this sounds in the social infrastructure. again, more than 100 hospitals destroyed. the city of kharkiv is almost 70% distraught. so everything. they continue. they continue to send their missiles. and what's really troubling, that is still sending blood money to putin. buying gas from russia. buying oil from russia. it is translating to a crime. look, when we are talking about sending money to the regime of vladimir putin, in terms of buying their oil and not putting an embargo. an oil embargo. it means that we are sending globally, one billion u.s. stores daily to finance russian military machine. it is completely unacceptable.
after the united states already introduced embargo on russian oil. europe is still not doing the same. we see discussions, we see plans, we see politicians who are making statements. it's unacceptable. for us here in kyiv, for our people who need to be hidden in shelters, these who are killed, 150 children already killed in ukraine. more than 1000 women were raped by russian soldiers. and our prosecutors office, related to war crimes. everybody sending the money to finance military machine of russia, also for us warcrimes.
we are keeping this information. we are keeping information in terms of delivering russian oil from ports all over the world. establishing a special group, in 24 hours, seven days a week tracking the movements of russian ships and ports. and what's terrible, some of these ships are still going to europe. so the question which i am rising, how this could be. that the whole world is trying to stop this war together with ukrainians, but at the same time sending money to finance this war. it is completely unacceptable. they are going to win this war and seal everybody who was financing the killing of our people. when he was buying, or she was
by, or the company was buying from russia. >> i wonder if i could ask you this. i'm reading that the ukrainian president has said that boris johnson, our prime minister, it's helping more than others in the resistance. thanks to the direct pressure from the british people. where is it goes on to say in the interview that the french president is afraid of russia. do you echo those sentiments by the president? >> yes, absolutely. already since the beginning of the invasion and before that time, understand that boris johnson and lotteries a landscape that they were always in touch on different matters. including matters related to security. but it is definitely not my topic. but yes, this is absolutely right. i know that they are in constant touch. i know that they have always
checked on the positions of one another. i know the support of ukraine of the united kingdom. and we are very grateful and we appreciate all the support that we are having from this great country from your great country. and we know that it's not a question of even economic health or financial support. it's not about humanitarians for, which we are also receiving from the uk. and it's not about -- it's about the attitude of people of the united kingdom. which we feel here in our bomb shelters all over ukraine. really, we are extremely grateful for that. but you need to do more, we need to stop putin. to stop him, it's not only our
brave soldiers who are fighting against the army. it's not our people who are fighting against russian government, but it is also an economic threat which we need to make. in this economic step for me features an immediate step. this week we have to cut off his machine of this blood money he is receiving formal. look, one member, 40% of russian budget revenue is coming from oil. 40%. so can you imagine. the regime of this planning. it means that they wouldn't be unable to buy missiles, to buy other weapons, bombs. to kill our people in ukraine. so i think that we need to do that. and we need to put pressure for those who still are trying to make up their minds.
and i'm talking here. it's unacceptable, you know. it's not the time when the germans can continue. the issues clear, either you are on our side where you are trying to play the games. and you are financing this military machine against us. this is unacceptable. and it's not because of even economic issues. it's a cause of morality. and i do not accept in kyiv any talks like it is going to be negative. it will be the very short run. >> let me ask you one final question before you go. i know time is pressing and we really appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning. how do you think that peace talks will go? there is another round of talks later in turkey. >> yes. our group is already in turkey. today to start today.
we have a lot of hope for these talks. i think that i could not talk more on this issue. >> please keep safe. we do appreciate you taking the time to join us. be safe. i don't know if you saw the demonstration in one of our squares and central law and then. trafalgar square at the weekend. tens of thousands of brits interests as well, who are all carrying your flags and standing united with the people of ukraine. please be aware that their support for you here in the united kingdom. >> appreciate that very much. thank you. thank you very much, appreciate it. >> keep safe. >> on behalf of the president. >> thank you for joining us, thank you. >> brave man, one and all, martha. let's get more now on the
government's forthcoming schools white paper and plans for schools to offer 32 and a half hour school week but 2023. right now by the general secretary of the national education union. hi kevin, thank you for joining us on the program this morning. of you had that secretary speaking on his private just moments ago, what did you make of we had to say? >> i didn't hear. because the sound was not coming through. but i've been talking with civil servants before today about what the white paper says. and i've seen the things he's been saying. i have to say, this is the first white paper for six years and i'm afraid that's a damp square. does not address things we've learned coming through the pandemic. does not deal with the significant issue of child poverty. does not deal with school funding. does not deal with the profound problem of teacher recruitment and retention. it said, he is setting targets. setting targets for children but not putting funding in. or pointing support for
schools. setting targets for children. the vast majority of school already hit their target and in a few that do not quite often, they've compress the lunch hour for a good reason. a rural school and have difficulties with school chance for, etc. and finally, set a target for schools coming joining multi academy trusts. where he has provided no evidence that that is a good thing in educational terms. and no proposals for reform of -- allows schools to leave if it does not provide a good service to them. >> although the education secretary if he were here in his response said that he is vanishing to get more money for the department that had previously had thought possible. and he's hopeful that the money will go where it is needed and targeted most. >> the government appointed
kevin collins a year ago in the pandemic, two years ago in the pandemic to give advice on with education needed post pandemic. and he said that schools needed 15 billion pounds in order partly to organize two inside the school. not a privatized system outside. and also that the schools could provide and be given extra resources to provide things for children outside the school. none of that money is coming through. none like that 15 billion. telling us that 15 billion was roughly speaking, with the americans were putting. and with the dutch were putting in. we are not getting that from the swipe. so there is some money announced previously and he is telling us that money is still available. but it is not new money and it is not the sort of money that you need to make the changes that children and their lives
need to make. >> i didn't get a chance because we are out of time, but what's happening as far as covid is. concern i'm reading that as some schools, 20%, 20,000 kids are off with covid-19. it is something that is in our rearview mirror, or is a real problem in our schools? >> it's a real problem in schools. and that is not to say that the vaccination has been such an almost thing. it's the way of this crisis. but in schools right now, 10% of staff are off with covid's, something like that. that is leading to enormous stress on those who are left behind. and so if you look, you can find to saying things like, i am a teacher, i've been having to teach classes all week, my staff are off sick, i'm having to prepare their lessons. other staff are having to double up in that sort of whip. enormously stressful and
schools. so we've been saying to governments, at the very least, they should allow schools to still have access to testing. if you've got symptoms, you should be allowed to test so that if you know it's a cold, you've got a bit of a cynical, it's still going to school. to distinguish between a bit of a -- where you should not going to school, because you end up with more staff, more children being off. this is a real worry for teachers, for support staff in the run up the stats. where it is clear, we've got doubts. we don't think it's a useful measure and this year, they're been disrupted. stress on children. and we need to remove those, remove them attached for this year. the same thing is happening and secondary schools. real pressure on the exams.
going ahead, the government should be doing more to help us control the number of covid cases in schools. >> good to talk to you. much appreciated. >> turning now to ukraine and the humanitarian crisis that's become one of the defining aspects of the war. tom dan, relatively local charity in ukraine. hello to you. ladies, first tell me about the challenges that you are facing. >> good morning. ukraine and the ukrainian people, ukrainian children, boys and girls. all feel disruption. and lots of people, millions of people more than 10 million
people are pushed to flee their houses. and get adopted to the new conditions. in these times. it's been enormous stress. of food water. this is what we need right now. this is what we need. it's not possible while we wait in the case of fear and shine. of bombing and under conditions of being threatened and being under fear of death and to our health. yeah, let me bring in thomas
well, tom, what are you doing? what is your charity doing to try and help? >> yes, thanks, k. so, with our partners, we are on the ground, -- charity and we certainly meet those precise needs that she described today we are launching a kay -- ukraine and clay, and some normality and access to basic services. so, we can only make a difference through partner organizations on the ground and that is what we are trying to do with the donations that we are receiving from the british government. >> and, tell me a little bit more about the charity? i think -- >> we'll, thank you for the
question. actually, i am talking on behalf of the organization which is -- it is not formally, but you are right, this can be regarded like -- foundation which has the region in the southeastern part of ukraine, now the main part of the region is already -- and that has been affected by enormous -- internal displaced people which is the main one of those who are in the donetsk area. we -- settlements in -- our charitable foundation helped officers in donetsk and
this -- social worker psychology who continuously delivered support for those who are negatively effective and -- >> i can just going to jump in, they're less than a minute left on the program, why should people do watching at home if they want to help? as quickly as you could please. >> yeah, we will get money as quickly into the hands of people like her and her colleagues. that will make us a fantastic difference in the circumstances. >> okay, guys, we must leave it. there thanks for explaining what you are doing. you know that the british public have huge fights, and i'm sure they will support. you come back and talk to us very soon a telescope you are getting on. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks very much indeed. still to come on the program for, you we are going to talk about the latest in ukraine, we are going to talk about the education white paper, we are also going to be talking about what will smith did at the oscars overnight.
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program here on sky news. very welcome. for viewers watching us around the world this morning. the oscars, not -- with a slap. will smith won the best action ward. for his betrayal of richard williams, father of the -- serena. certainly will be remembered for what happened a few moments earlier. he got up on the stage, and smacked comedian