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russia focusing more and more on dominating or trying to eastern ukraine. we saw in mariupol claiming russian troops are digging up bodies had that been buried before in some of these court yards and not allowing new burials of, quote, people killed by them. the director of the u.n. world food program tells nbc news today that people in the besieged city are starving to death. while russia has pulled back from the ukrainian capital of kyiv, the defense minister is promising to boost the number of missile in and around the city. the flagship, which translate to moscow, is now at the bottom of the black sea. with claims and counterclaims from russia and ukraine. a ukrainian naval officer in the port city of odesa shared a
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seemingly prophetic warning about russian warships a couple weeks ago. >> we will sink them and it will be fish feeding season and our fish will grow fat. >> we're also going to take you to a train live heading around lviv. we're also following new developments in the fight with the pandemic this hour. it may be time to say good-bye to those nose swabs. the fbi just authorizing the very first breath test. we'll tell you how it works and how how long it takes to get results. kentucky lawmakers overriding a veto to restrict access to abortion. we'll have a report from there. i'll talk with a democratic state lawmaker there about what it means for people in her state and the legal fight that's coming. i'm halle jackson.
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raf sanchez -- i think you see raf riding a train, heading from kyiv. courtney kube is at the pentagon and general ben hodges, general from 2014 to 2017. and also with us is the senior attache to moscow. the sinking of the ship, embarrassing for russia. tell us what else you're seeing at your location. >> reporter: halle, it's huge. it's been seen as a huge boost. in kyiv people are lining up to buy a stamp that bore the image of that sunken ship. and as you said, there are conflicting report about exactly what caused it. the ukrainians said they hit it with a missile, the russians still saying that they had a
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fire on board but wouldn't elaborate, only that its crew was evacuated and that it was towed to port or tried to and it sunk in the stormy weather. but i want to get to what i'm seeing here right now. this is the town of macari, about 45 miles west of kyiv. you're looking at an industrial bakery. just look at all this destruction, halle. if you walk around here, it extends pretty much everywhere around this town. this particular site was hit with a missile more than a month ago. it was an industrial baking but it was being used as staging area for ukrainian troops and at least 30 or so of them were here. sadly, halle, at least 15 bodies have been pulled from this rubble. we saw human remains still on the other side of this lot and there's now a massive clean-up
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effort under way here. we were here yesterday and we have seen several schools that have been destroyed, including several kindergartens, and the local officials here say about two-thirds of the schools here have been destroyed. in and around makari and surrounding villages, more than 130 bodies have been recovered. this is one of the suburbs to the west of kyiv that were just devastated, has no power, no water. residents are trying to figure out how to rebuild this area. this clean-up effort will extend for so long. and with the fighting intensifying in the east and south and in the city of mariupol, areas like this are cleaning up after the russian troops but there really appears to be no end in sight. bill? >> and the devastation left behind. gabe, go ahead.
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>> reporter: no, back to you. i was just telling my cameraman to spin. this destruction just extends so far. it's the residents we were speaking with, this war came to her doorstep and she watched some of these young ukrainian troops being brought out. it was just traumatizing, halle, and it's tough to see how this area can rebuild. >> it is important to show some of these devastating images. you and bill, thanks to our team on the ground as well. let me go to raf sanchez. he's on a train heading from -- i think you're heading from kyiv over to lviv, yes? >> reporter: halle, that's right. this train started in the ukrainian capital. we've now just come to a stop on the outskirts of lviv.
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every day trains like this, rain, shine, russian bombs have been moving, ferrying people to safety and humanitarian supplies to where they need to go. the trains have been app absolute lifeline for ukraine over the course of this war. a number of train workers have been killed already, several dozen according to the national train company. they're known as the iron people and they are considered heroes just like the soldiers are. we've been hearing stories of all kind aboard this train. we just met a teacher who fled from mariupol. she had her dog and cat with her. we met her 1-year-old. this is her first ever train journey and she's about to become a refugee when her family crosses ever into germany. we met a woman named valentina. she was racing back to kyiv to see her dying father. she didn't get there in time. when we met her at platform two,
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she was in the embrace of a childhood friend who she ran into by chance, someone she's known for a very long time, someone she could never imagine she would be hugging in the middle of a war in their country. the russians did not target trains for the most part, did not target train stations. that all changed last week when russian missiles hit kramatorsk station in the east of ukraine, killing more than 50 people and really shattering the sense that the train lines which have been such important arteries for this country were safe and the trains have also been a way for ukraine to stay connected to the rest of the world. the airports are shut, the airspace is full of russian fighter aircraft. they are keeping ukraine connected to the rest of europe. when boris johnson, the british prime minister, showed up in we've for that surprised face-to-face meeting with president zelenskyy last week, he took a train in and a train
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out. it's almost impossible to overstate how important the rail lines have been for this country over this conflict. >> how long is the journey from kyiv to lviv? i know you've been talking to folks on the train there. i imagine this is such a difficult journey for them, to leave their homes, to be trying to forge this new frontier. >> reporter: it's an unbelievably difficult journey. people are heading into enormous uncertainty. the family of this 1-year-old girl, they're going to germany. they don't have family there. they're beginning a new life as refugees. her father told me he's hopeful for her future, he's hopeful for the future of this country, but he doesn't know when they're going to be back, if ever. the train journey to kyiv, it's about six hours or so from lviv. lviv has been a place of
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relative safety for ukrainians throughout this war. it's been interesting, halle, the flow of people from kyiv to lviv is really slowing down. the threat from the capital considered to have diminished. this is one of the smaller passengers on the train. this is maria, halle. how old is maria? >> one year. >> where are you guys going? >> from kiev. >> reporter: and you're going to lviv? >> and you're going to spain? >> yes. >> reporter: and you'll come back to ukraine? >> of course. >> raf sanchez. thank you so much for bringing us these stories. courtney, let me go to you from the pentagon. give us the update from where you are and the assistance that the u.s. is providing to ukraine to try to help them keep track
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of russia's capabilities. >> reporter: this assistance has been moving in on a daily basis. the biden administration announced another enormous military assistance package to ukraine. what was different about this one was not just the size of it. there have been a number of military assistance packages the biden administration has announced over the last three months that have all been smaller is not only larger but it's helping to arm the ukrainians for the coming fight, the fight for donbas, the u.s. officials and foreign officials who are expecting to start in a matter of days or weeks. this is fight that will largely include short-range missiles and artillery. because of that, some of the things the u.s. is now going to provide is artillery to the ukrainians, that they will be able to strike back on the russians and be able to
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hopefully stop artillery with radar systems. in addition, we're talking a lot about this russian cruiser that sunk in the black see the last 20 hours. the u.s. is providing ukrainians with unmanned naval craft. >> we're hearing the russians are striking back and now confirmed by nbc news have warned the united states that this influx of this much more offensive weaponry that the u.s. is going to be providing ukraine over the coming days and week, they're warning that this could yield, quote, unpredictable consequences. now, diplomatic notes in and of themselves are not that uncommon that go back and forth between countries, but that language, according to the u.s. officials who i've spoken with, that
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language is actually is raising some eyebrows here in washington. russia in the past since this invasion began, they have warned about the potential for use for nuclear weapons, to are tactical nukes. this kind of language does get people thinking, it gets people concerned. that being said, white house officials this morning are saying this just proves the fact that russia is lashing out with this diplomatic note, it proves they know the united states is providing this weaponry, they are shoring up ukraine's offensive capabilities and it show this military assistance is working, that russia is taking notice, halle. >> courtney kube, live at the
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pentagon. the content is in the necessarily breaking new ground. can you talk about russia and the u.s. on the issue of military assistance to ukraine. >> i draw attention to the fact that they are sending a note on the fact that this sensitive conflict we're, if you will, upping the ante. they've invaded, they're killing thousands of ukrainians so they don't like the reaction. they want their way. they want dominance. they want to cow and intimidate and they will do that through demarsh, they will do it through diplomatic notes, as we talked about and they will do it through media statements as we've heard about the suggestion of, if you will, militarizing
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the baltics, if finland and sweden come into nato. they are providing free democratic ukraine with the forces to fight and to fight, if you will, and push out on enemy offensive platforms like the black sea fleet or a raid around the donbas. >> when it comes to military aid but to the point the general is making, president zelenskyy talked with "the atlantic" and a line stood out. "when some leaders ask me what weapons i need, i need a moment to calm myself because i already
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told them. it's like "ground hog day." what should the u.s. be sending? not that we can be sending but should be sending? >> long range capabilities that can strike what's causing all the damage inside ukraine, which is russian artery, russian rockets and systems launching cruise missiles. that's why it's such a beautiful thing to see moscow go to the bottom of the black sea because it carries so many -- it's able to launch many missiles. we don't need another list. president zelenskyy is right. we know the capabilities that they need, the ability to strike back and also to disrupt the reconstitution efforts going on before the russians ever get a chance to launch this next phase, we should be crushing those units because they're very vulnerable right now. they're building up fuel,
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ammunition. you've got units trying to reconstituted very vulnerable right now and still the ukraine needs the ability to hit those. >> so, general hodges, what is your assessment of what we know publicly about the sinking of the "moscow"? >> it is as your team has been saying. it's a big deal to are symbolic reasons but from a practical reason, this was the command and control ship from which the admiral coordinated and led naval operations in the back sea. it's not just the loss of a platform, it also have a practical loss for them in terms of their ability to command and control. i also think that now they're going to be much more circumspect about getting in too close, about potential amphibious operations along the black sea coast now that they understand the threat that ukraine has. so increased deterrence for ukraine.
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and i think we're going to learn a lot from this, too, that won't be immediately available to the public. but some vulnerabilities have been exposed in the russian navy just like in the russian army. >> general, quick final thoughts to you. >> yes. just following up with general hodges, the -- i can't understate the impact of both from a military perspective and the shock, the tremors that must be going through the kremlin, not just the black sea fleet, and general of this ship going down. it was a glory class, top of the line flagship. the other one was a flagship and it went down, bristling with weapons and it was a show piece and it went down badly and this
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is just adding, if you will, to the perception of the russians of what's going on but it also, i believe, makes it all even more dangerous because they're going to come back even more aggressively and more viciously, especially in the donbas, which means all the especially indirect fire that we can get to the ukrainians is critical. >> brigadier general, thank you and lieutenant ben hodges, thanks to you as well. coming up, we're following the new wave of laws across the country to make it harder to get an abortion. we'll talk with a florida state representative who says her state's new law criminalizes people for being poor. first, a lot of folks might be traveling over this holiday week and weekend, which probably means a lot of covid tests. pretty soon it may mean you don't have to stick a swab up your nose. the first breath test and how soon you might be able to use it next. est and how soon you might be able to use it next
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good morning to the both of you. dr. hilton, let me start with you and this news coming out of the fda. when might we be able to get our hand on something that's a breath test, which is ideal for little kids who don't necessarily love the swabs up their nose any more than the rest of us. >> hopefully in the last few weeks. these things take time to ramp up. unfortunately, the company says they can only produce about a hundred machines a week. that will take time for it to get in the hands of the general public. if we do have this scarce resource, we start thinking about the most vulnerable and put those to the communities with the absolute most, those with the highest rates of hospitalizations and deaths and try to keep more people alive. >> let me go to you here. as we're looking at around the country here in some spots a bit of an uptick in covid cases,
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you've got this holiday weekend ahead, how are airlines managing these passengers, especially with the news that the mask mandate will stay in place a couple weeks on planes, talk me through what you've been seeing. >> well, halle, i think the biggest thing is that there are passengers that it's going to continue to be the norm but they're not necessarily happy about it. it's something airports and airlines are enforcing. last time they made it clear, keep it over your nose, over your mouth. those are the messages they're going to continue to hammer home. throughout the day we were talking to passengers not just here but in different places across the country. here's a little bit about what they had to say. take a look. >> i don't think masks work all that well anyway. i think they're kind of useless to be honest. >> i'm okay with it. i look forward to when we don't have to wear them anymore but i understand to err on the side of
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caution. >> i wish it was off but we follow the rules. >> so, halle, you're hearing a lot of people that are like, well, we're not necessarily happy about it but we will do it. extended to may 3rd and a lot of people are hoping it doesn't go any further than that. >> we talked about being on a plane or a train. "the washington post" talked about an epidemiologist about the ba.2 variant backing more dominant. they say ba.2 will affect a lot of people who have so far evaded the virus. doctor, what are you telling your patients who might be traveling? >> it is more contagious. for health care workers, we literally did not have another tool in our tool kit for the entirety of 2020 when the virus was first discovered.
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i was the first person the uva to be vaccinated against the covid virus, december 2020. masks absolutely do work. it's the type that masks that matters. the n-95 mask will be the most protective for you and your family. so keeping those on to help reduce the risk of spread and infection, that's the way to go. and getting those booster shots as well. >> let me ask you about kids and the vaccine, right? california was the first state to announce it would require kids in school to get the vaccine but it's pushing that mandate back until next summer. there is still no emergency vaccine for all kids, kids that are 5 are not eligible yet. what's the status? i'm asking on behalf of parents everywhere who might be wondering how much longer is this going to take? >> we still don't have the data for the less than 5-year-olds. for those children that are 5 to
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12, we're now starting to see data that pfizer has pushed out to the fda to say should we get those children boosted? they have great results from the studies they have. it's really important. with the omicron variant, we saw the effectiveness of just having the two doses decreased to 24% as far as protection against omicron. we really do need to get those children boosted. unfortunately at this point 12 million kids are been infected with covid and of those 12 million, 120,000 children have been hospitalized. this is not a virus we can take lightly and we now know that whole narrative that kids are frokd is not true. vaccinating those children and getting those masks back into school, those will will be the ways to ride the next wave of covid-19. >> oklahoma, kentucky, florida, all three states passed new laws this week that make it really tough or even impossible to get an abortion. up next, we'll break down
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week alone to restrict access to abortion. governor desantis signing that law on thursday, banning abortion after 15 weeks. and kentucky voters overrode a veto. i want to bring in florida representative, a democrat, who represents part of the or land -- orlando area. >> you're on your way to another engagement. let me start with this new law and what it means for women in florida. no exception for rape or incest. there is an exception for women to be able to obtain an abortion in their health is in danger or if their baby has a fatal fetal abnormality. talk about the impact for women in your state. >> in is one of the most extreme abortion bans in the country and one of the most extreme in
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florida history. as you noted, it bans abortion after 15 weeks with no exception for rape, incest or human trafficking. though it has these narrow exception for life of the pregnant person, it must be verified by two doctors and even that exception is very, very narrow. so we essentially are stripping away bodily autonomy for more than half of state with this arbitrary ban on this national legislation. >> you wrote that this law punishes poor people for being poor. can you expand on that? >> absolutely. at the end of the day, different abortion impacts will impact every person. but those with means will find a way to access this procedure self. you might be able to travel to a different state but if you have the means, you will find a way.
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for those who don't speak english as a first language, they may not be able to seek assistance from another state. some women will have access but for those marginalized, they'll face the burden the greatest. >> the aclu said it going to try to push back on this in court. what does that fight look like, especially given what we expect to hear probably in june or early july, the potential for the significant blow to roe v. wade. >> in florida we are very unique in the fact that we have a right to privacy enumerated in our state constitution, which has stopped abortion bans like this from becoming laws in the past. much like the supreme court of the united states, our state supreme court has become more conservative thanks to governor ron desantis but we have not heard an abortion issue before our state court.
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and we're hearing from the 17-year-old who tweeted out critical pictures of the subject that helped bring the 30-hour man hunt to an end. he took the pictures on a photography class field trip. he said he got so close to james, the shutter on his camera alerted him. he got up and walked away. >> what made you say that's frank james? >> there was just so much movement around me, everywhere. there was cars, people. there was so much movement and then there was one still guy just sitting on a bench and resting, not drinking, not eating, not on his phone, not reading anything. >> frank james is still behind bars this morning. a judge denied him bail during his first appearance in federal court yesterday and ordered him to do a psychiatric evaluation at the defense's request. prosecutors say james had access to, in their words, a stockpile of weapons in a storage unit and tuesday's attack was
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premeditated. it's a federal charge that might mean life in prison if james is convicted. he was not asked to enter a play. this morning details are trickling out more and more from that eight-hour virtual testimony of steven miller in front of the house committee. the former trump senior adviser was in their view pugnacious and cooperativish. senior reporter john allen joins me. >> it was absolutely contentious. there were three main areas of interlocking in their exchanges. one was miller's attorneys asserting executive privilege to try to shield his conversations
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with the president from the committee. another one was him going up against the committee on voter fraud. he says he believes there were acts of voter fraud committed and the third one, which i think was really interesting because it reveals a little bit about the what committee is looking into, miller denied there was any coding or dog whistling in the president's speech on january 6th before people went from outside the white house to the capitol to riot. >> you picked up on that, john, you said it tells us more about the committee and what they're looking for, right? >> absolutely. they are trying to make the case that there was a connection between what trump said in his speech at the stop the steal rally, as it was called and the actual violence in the capitol. one of the things they were looking for was were there red
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flags in his language. miller, a senior adviser to trump at the time and head of his speech writing crew. if there's anybody who knew what that speech was intended to do, steven miller would have been a good witness. that being said i'm sure he's not inclined to make the case for the committee. >> i'm old enough to remember talking with members several months ago, maybe it was going to be february, then march and now it's april. and is it now the summer? >> that's a great question. it's important because it a small window between now and the mid-term elections. if the republicans win in the mid-term elections, they'll take pouter m january. and they'll either get rid of this committee and try to investigate claims of voter fracture and a variety of
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thanksgiving that we've herd from republicans. and potentially to the justice department if they recommend that there be charges brought against prum or any of the people who are supporting him at the time. >> john al i don't know, good to see you. thank you very much for bringing us the reporting on that appreciate it. >> the family of patrick loyola reacting to video of the moment he was shot and killed in grand rapid, michigan. they're calling it an execution. we're not going to show it to you again, it disturbing. but it seems to show the men struggling on the ground before the officer shoots him in the back of the head. he was pulled over during a traffic stop because his license plate was not registered to the car. shaquille brewster is with us. tell us about the conversation with the family members who recently relocated from the
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democratic republic of congo. tell us about it. >> reporter: they're heart broken and right now they're calling for justice. justice for them at this point, they want the officer who fired that shot to be publicly identified. they want that officer to be fired and prosecuted. that's the sentiment that you're hearing from many in the community who are still protesting. we saw a second straight night of protests yesterday and there's no protests scheduled into this weekend. i did have a conversation with the family. this is something that the shooting at least is something that the police chief has called a tragedy but the word that they continue to use is they see it as an execution. and i asked them why they see it at that. listen to a little bit of our conversation. >> you are killed by a bullet and by a police officer, the person that is supposed to be protecting you. just my heart is broken and this what they did to patrick. and i don't want it to happen to
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another person. >> translator: truly what i'm asking about pat truck is just justice for the death of patrick. >> reporter: this is currently an investigation that is being led by michigan state police, though there are multiple agencies involved in the overall investigation. we checked this morning. there is no timeline for when that investigation will be wrapped up. the police chief did say it going to come do you to that moment that the shot was fired and whether or not from the position of a reasonable officer, whether or not that action is justice and that auns is several weeks away perhaps. >> we'll have more on your reporting on another topic in a couple of minutes. we're also following developing news this morning, a wildfire in new mexico. at least two have been killed, thousands of acres have been burned in the mcbride fire, about an hour from the white sands national park.
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75 years ago today major league baseball changed forever when jackie robinson broke mlb's color barrier. today around the country they'll wear robinson's number 42 in dodger blue. here's more on the fight to preserve black baseball legacy. >> the average baseball fan needs to understand it's not beginning of the story of blacks in baseball.
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he's the apex at the end of the story. >> years before he took the field in brooklyn, jackiy robinson play would the best black baseball players available in the country. an opportunity born out of the circumstances of world war ii. stories about robinson on and off the field have been passed down through generations of baseball's greats. >> the way he ran the bases and if you look at video of him running the bases, wreaking havoc and the way he played the game was just a different style that they had seen. he came from the negro leagues where it was a show. >> on the corner of 18th and vine in kansas city lives a monument to what's normally just a footnote in both robinson and baseball. here is where the negro leagues and thousands of people who made it successful are honored and remembered. >> this negro leagues baseball
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is one that closely mirrors the history of negro league. i say it from the standpoint that no one given a this little museum any chance at succeeding. >> the baseball museum was founded as a dream in 1990. it started as a one-room office and grown to 10,000 square feet and several traveling exhibitions. the museum takes you on a journey through art facts, like the oldest garment from the negro leagues, a sweater from 1924. and pictures of an all-star tour of japan, seven years before major league players visited. but this is about more than baseball. >> the museum makes the bold assertion that robinson's breaking of the color barrier, wasn't just part of the civil rights movement, in a lot of ways he was the start of the movement.
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>> just understanding what he meant to us as a people and us as a country. i think we get it confused with him being part of baseball history but it's part of american history. >> they supported their stars in the majors but this monumental moment spells the beginning of the end of the negro leagues. >> that does it for me this hour but stay with us. state department spokesperson, ned price will join katy tur right here and back here 3:00 eastern and 5:00 eastern on nbc news now. come hangout on a friday. you know. you know you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it... usually. ♪♪ in it... mostly. even what gets near your body. please please please take that outside. here to meet those high standards
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as the kremlin is falling back on a familiar playbook of threats to the u.s., over president biden's weapons shipments to ukraine, after ukraine claimed responsibility for sinking russia's flagship destroyer in the black sea. if true, the biggest war ship to be sunk since world war ii. a hugely embarrassing and symbolling setback for putin. they're reporting from the "washington post" that the russians cept sent a formal diplomatic warning, a note about unpredictable consequences they're threatening because of u.s. and nato arms shipments to ukraine. ukrainian forces are celebrating the sinking of that russian ship, after an unexplained explosion which kyiv says resulted from two missile strikes. russia claims it was exploding ammunition and they're not able to confirm ukraine's claims. montana republican senator and indiana


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