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weapons of war. i'd like you to think about that because this whole conversation defies logic, and you know what, it's actually insulting. you know what, you know what, in fairness let's just take a moment to step back and think about each of their arguments and whether that is the environment that you want or that they want for their children. let's start with mental health. as far as we know there was no mental health issue with the individual who stole the futures of 19 children in uvalde, texas. governor greg abbott even said it himself before he contradicted himself. >> there was no known mental health history of the gunman. we would have a problem with mental health illness in this community. >> greg, you flipped it around. now you said mental health was the problem. okay. yet nbc news reports abbott slashed more than $200 million from the department overseeing
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mental health programs in a state that is already dead last in the country for access to mental health care. abbott certainly has an approach providing mental health services with the same zeal as sure making every texan who wants to carry a gun can do so at any time. he went to the alamo to sign 7 new gun rights laws including one constitutional carry. allowing texans to carry a handgun in public without a permit or training. in 2017 donald trump as president made it easier with those with mental health issues to get a gun. so republicans haven't walked the walk there. then there's the argument number two. here is texas attorney general ken paxton. >> we can prepare and train teachers and other
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administrators to respond quickly because the reality is we don't have the resources to have law enforcement at every school. >> really, ken? you sure about that? because we've just been through a whole season of republicans screaming how they don't trust teachers and teachers need to be monitored for suspicious activities. they have legally limited how teachers can teach about race and slavery under the boogie man of critical race theory. you can't trust teachers to speak to your kids about race, sexuality? but you want them to meet an ar-15. >> you'll have to ask them to fire this. >> lean forward into the firing lane. imagine that weapon in your
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classroom with a fifth grader. what makes you think miss sally can do it? then there's this gem that came directly from the nra after sandy hook. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> now the right would like you to think if there were only additional armed security there, then the problem would be solved. start with columbine, there was an armed security guard on the campus when the shooting happened and still 39 school kids were killed. at the parkland school there was an armed security officer who failed to enter the school when he heard the shots fired. earlier this month in buffalo the security guard at the tops supermarket, aaron slater, did engage the shooter but his shots failed to penetrate the gun
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vest. at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, there are many questions of security. today we learned an armed official did not engage the gunman. and an officer may not have been present. >> was there a school officer on campus? and was that school officer armed? that's what we've been told? >> at this time, no. there was no officer readily available, armed. >> was there an officer? >> no. nothing -- i can't answer that get. >> okay. another question. why did almost an hour elapse before police were able to shoot and kill the gunman and could anything have been done sooner to prevent at least some of the carnage? what we do know is it was long enough for parents to arrive on scene pleading with police
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officers to go in and save their children. you can hear them screaming. begging officers to help. nbc news does not know precisely at what time this occurred or what actions law enforcement officers had taken at this time but the associated press said who lost his daughter says that authorities were unprepared and not moving quickly enough. that parent even raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders. another parent told "the wall street journal" that she was temporarily handcuffed and almost arrested for supposedly interfering with the crime scene. she said she saw a father tackled and thrown to the ground by police and a third pepper sprayed. each of them just wanted to see their kids alive again. meanwhile, authorities, the good guys with the guns, remain painfully short on answers. joining me is kerry sanders in uvalde and darnell harvin.
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former chief of homeland security for washington, d.c, and first responder to the sandy hook elementary school shooting and the 9/11 attack on the world trade center. quite a resume. kerry, my friend, long time no see. unfortunately when i get to see you it's in awful, awful circumstances like that. you were at that press conference today so can you try to unpack and explain how it could be that apparently this shooter, this gunman was inside uvalde school for an hour? >> reporter: yeah. it was a news conference that left a lot to understand because it really raised more questions than it answered. first of all, let's talk a little bit about some nbc news reporting. we have up until this point been under the belief that all of the children were in a classroom that was sort of a shared classroom with two teachers.
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i take it there was some sort of partition in the middle that could open or close but now my colleagues pete williams and jonathan dienst say their sources within texas are reporting there were victims in four classrooms which suggests that the gunman was moves through the school, down the hallway, down the hallway and barricading into that one shared classroom as it were. the news conference raised several questions really about the time line so at 11:28 the gunman in a stolen pickup truck crashes in a ditch, gets out. witnesses believe somebody's been in a car accident. go out to help. the gunman gets out of the passengers side, has a bag, which we know has ammunition and a long gun, which was some ar-15 type weapon and he begins shooting. so those people skedaddle.
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somebody dials 911. in the process he goes over the fence. 911 call is made around 11:30. there's a 10-minute period where he is getting over the fence, getting onto the school grounds and finding an open door. the police department is 1.2 miles from here. even if you were driving the speed limit and doing all of the stop signs, it would only take five minutes. if you're a police officer with sirens running, you'd be here within moments. the gunman gets inside and this is where it gets a little unclear now because we were told he goes down one 20 step direction, one 20 step direction and there were two other classrooms victims were found. he barricades himself. you have the officers in there. as you mentioned, joy, there's people outside here. they're screaming. they're asking the authorities to let them in. they want the officers to go in. why are they outside.
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and this one-hour period passes. now during this one-hour period we don't know why the officers did not attempt to go in, why they didn't breach. fire departments breach every day, that's what they do. they get people out of houses where doors are locked and they can't get in there. they know how to do that sort of stuff. they don't do that, but what they do do is they have this one-hour period. now i was told at the news conference because he used a word, we were negotiating. i said, i need to understand what was going on. was he responding to the negotiation? no response, which suggests to me calling it a negotiation is the wrong word. you're negotiating when you have a conversation, even if it's a response. so there was no response, no negotiation. then we have this one-hour period where the officers are outside and the families i've spoken to, the residents i've spoken to, the people who are here are wondering, maybe my child was alive.
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maybe if they had gone in at least some of the children would have been saved. >> right. >> we know of at least one child playing dead laying on top of her friend who had also been shot but was still breathing and in that one period and folks in ems call it the golden hour, in that one hour period when they finally got her out and rushed her to the hospital, she had died. so there are so many questions, joy, from parents who want to say, what was going on in that hour? why weren't you going in? why wasn't there an attempt to figure out an alternative approach? >> yeah. >> it wasn't until the border patrol arrived, got the key, went in from the administrator, the principal, open the key to the door and then got in. that key was available for that one hour and the other big question is, and we saw this in parkland because as you know, deputy scot peterson, he didn't go in, he stayed outside. >> right. >> we do know when they were looking for the gunman they did a quick review of the security cameras to see where the gunman
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had gone. they have security here. they have the cameras. from what we understand, nobody did any sort of review to try to determine what was going on, where the movements were, just there was somebody inside. the one thing the dps did say is in that hour period, the initial gunfire all happened in the first period. there was later gunfire but not as rapid as at first. but that does not explain who was killed at what time and more importantly, who might have been saved if the officers had somehow figured a way to at least an attempt at entry into that room to take out this gunman. joy? >> extraordinary. just absolutely extraordinary reporting, and hard to believe. kerry sanders, wow. thank you. thank you, my friend. i really appreciate you. let me bring you in, donell harvin. does any of that make sense to you in the scene of an active
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shooter where children are involved? >> absolutely not, joy. in new york city, washington, d.c., the first responders have a well practiced, well rehearsed entry method. in fact, every police officer is trained to not wait for a tactical team. if you're one person, you go in as one person. if you're two people, you go in as two people. we all got tactical training and we make entry and you engage and if you take fire, you give fire back. additionally, kerry mentioned the golden hour. that's spot on. i was a paramedic for 20 years and pediatrics have less than a golden hour if they're injured. and knowing that most authorities have a rescue task force and they have paramedics trained to go in with the officers and start evacuating and doing rapid treatment in the hot zone of fallen victims because we understand if you're shot in a critical area, you may only have 10 or 15 minutes. staying there, laying out to bleed for an hour is a
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non-winner for most victims skbl . >> let me ask you a couple of things. we know the gunman was shot multiple times in a way that would suggest he was shot by more than one person all at one time. does the -- does it make sense to you that at the time he was killed there might have been other people alive or he might have been barricaded with him? it doesn't seem logical any officer would shoot in a way that might injure the kids, even the way this person apparently died, does that make sense to you? >> you know, there's a lot of things about this shooting that doesn't make sense to me. i prefer having worked in forensics for ten years to wait to see what the medical examiner comes out with. >> yeah. >> i will tell you everything that i've seen so far, and i do like to try to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, however, everything i've seen so far speaks to an unprofessional response. and i'll leave it at that until the facts are what they are.
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i saw the presser today. it left me with more questions than answers as kerry had mentioned. >> yeah. >> i believe that there's still a lot to be told. i will tell you that there's a lot of concern for many of my public safety partners about the chilling response this is going to have on school responses, safety going forward. >> let me ask you very quickly. is there any evidence in everything you've done, i read your amazing resume, that a teacher because, you know, in order to be able to go up against somebody who's already decided to kill and they've crossed that rubicon and they've got an ar-15 and these police took ten minutes to go in and waited for the feds to come, they didn't go in, they didn't even get the key until it was almost over, an hour in, have you -- does it make sense to you to arm a teacher with an ar-15 so that they can have equal fire and be equal to the force of
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somebody who's come in to murder their students? should teachers have an ar-15? >> you know the answer to that, but for your audience, absolutely not. i've been a first responder for over 30 years. i will tell you a determined assailant who's heavily armed is no match for many law enforcement officers. >> that's right. >> we -- when we are issued ballistic vests we are not issued the higher rating ballistic vest. you've seen case after case a trained professional isn't a match for people who are intent to kill people and maybe even die in the process. i think teachers have a hard enough time keeping track of their schools and the kids in the schools. i don't think arming them is going to be the answer. >> yeah. >> that's always a go-to line for the nra which i call the death cult at this point, because the proliferation of weapons in this country is a sickness that we're all going to suffer from so long as we keep going over and over with these
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same scenes. >> amen. amen. donnell harvin, please come back. >> thanks. gun reform means only the bad guys will have guns, you know they're lying and they know they're lying. when other countries pass sensible restrictions after mass murders, viola, it worked. plus, the nra's big gun celebration is still on this weekend in texas with the all-star maga lineup. and the republican gun fetish. then when they get into office they block all meaningful gun reform despite widespread public support for it. "the reid out" continues after this. this
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so you want to know why the u.s. has a staggeringly high number of shootings compared to nearly every single developed country in the world? because those countries acted after facing their own tragedies. after a british gunman killed 16 people in 1987, the country banned semi-automatic weapons like those he had used. it did the same with most handguns after a 1996 school massacre. in australia a 1996 massacre prompted mandatory gun buy backs that saw as many as 1 million firearms melted into slag. australians gave up their guns. unlike our crowd, they're
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actually pro life. most recently new zealand banned military style weapons pretty much immediately after the country suffered mass shootings. >> it's happened again. a mass shooting at an american school. >> out of nowhere the deadliest shooting rampage in american history. >> the tragedy at sandy hook elementary, an unthinkable attack on young children. >> terror in orlando. the deadliest shooting in u.s. history. >> the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history. >> it has happened again. another deadly mass shooting in an american high school. >> and yet we do absolutely nothing and continue to own quadruple the number of guns per 100 people than most other countries. that is how we found ourselves once again in this heartbreaking scenario. we are, in a sense, choosing to live this way. meanwhile, we're learning more of the names and stories of the 10 and 11-year-old children who
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died in texas. this is layla salazar who was a whole lot of fun as her father told the ap. she loved to swim, dance, watch tiktok videos. mckenna lee elrod whose aunt told abc she loved animals and made friends everywhere she went. there's nevaeh bravo whose cousin said she put a smile on everyone's faces. tess mata loved tiktok dances and the houston as stress. in her bedroom she made a jar full of cash she was hoping to use for a family vacation to disney world. miranda mathis whose family friend told the post she was fun, spunky, very smart. and now we learn the final name of the elementary school victims. maita ileana rodriguez. she posed for honor role photos just before the shooting according to the fort worth star
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telegram. tragically there is more sad news. joe garcia, the husband of irma garcia, one of the teachers killed, perhaps and died of a heart attack while preparing for his wife's funeral. they leave behind four children. joining me is omna navaz and council member zamora. how is this community managing to hold it together? >> it's just pure guts, pure determination right now. i think that. it's not going to hit until we start laying the bodies to rest, it starts slowing down. like you said, we're shocked. trying to get answers to the
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questions. >> some of the questions we saw, we talked about the time line, which doesn't make sense. your governor came out and your lieutenant came out and immediately lauded law enforcement and we have great respect for law enforcement, they really do a great job, it's very confusing to understand what law enforcement did in this case. do you have questions and concerns about that? >> there's always questions. situations like this, there's always questions. you know, it's difficult. you know, police officers have a very difficult job. i mean, they've got to make split second decisions. sometimes those decisions are -- you know, can determine whether a person dies or lives and that's why their job is so difficult. i think we just need to take a step back, you know, and see what the investigation comes up with. why was that door open?
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why did he get in the room? why did it take so long? all those whys, we're just waiting and seeing. those questions will be answered. if not, we're going to ask why. >> it was an hour. that's hard to swallow just as a parent to think about. i want to bring omna in. you've been talking to these family members and the members of the community. what are you hearing? >> joy, i think it's what we've been hearing for the last two days, which is this is still a community very much in shock, very much enveloped in grief but as the councilman has referenced and others have been reporting is there is a growing sense of confusion and outrage what happened on that day. we did get details earlier from officials letting out a few of the time line questions and answers that we've within trying to get from them, but there's still a lot we do not know. granted, it is just two days after this horrific massacre at robb elementary school. we know the funeral preparations
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are underway. two funeral homes have provided to me they're providing those funeral services free of charge. there's questions, trying to figure out what went wrong, what police could or should have done that maybe they did not but also for the larger question. we know uvalde is just the latest community to feel this kind of pain. we now live in a country where these kinds of mass shootings have become normalized to some degree and there's a lot of people wondering if maybe this time will finally be the one that makes the difference f this is the time that things will change. that's the biggest question of all. >> just when you speak with local officials there, is there any discomfort with the idea there is going to be a big nra convention not far from where these uvalde teachers and children lost their lives? >> i think this is the important distinction here. we talk about gun culture in america. this is a community very much into hunting. we talk to a lot of people who
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talk about how popular that is here. guns are popular here. there is a difference, we know, between having some kind of gun ownership and having well-regulated gun ownership. the more you talk to people here, they're able to make those kinds of distinctions. they're not opposed to gun control measures but they want to make sure everything is being done to make their community safe, keep their rights intact. there hasn't been a lot of focus about what other politicians are doing, certainly not what's happening in washington and the nra convention. what they are most focused on is healing and helping each other, figuring out what went wrong and making sure it never happens again. >> council member zamora, what do the community members need? what are they telling you they need most? >> right now they want peace, prayer, emotional support.
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and the city, the city is providing counseling. we're asking the families what can we help you with all the time and everyone. every victim, every family, we're asking them. you need us, you tell us, we'll be there to support you. that's what they need. they need emotional support right now. they need a lot of counseling. i mean, everybody. this is a small community and everybody is affected, you know, when somebody passes away in this community, even if it wasn't this, it affects a lot of people. now it affected the whole community. 19 and the two teachers. everybody knew everybody here. it's devastating. we're asking for peace. we're asking for some kind of respect the families, respect their wishes. we're hoping we can give them all the emotional support we can
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give them. >> well, we're here as well and feel free to reach out and let us know if there's something we can say. i'm happy to give you more air time to talk about the needs of this community. thank you very much and god bless. omna and uvalde council member zamora, thank you very much. the nra brings its twisted little fetish road show to the area. h road show to the area wow. get your competitive offer at
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the national rifle association will hold its annual convention in houston, texas again. the very state where 19 elementary school kids and two teachers were brutally gunned down in their classroom several days ago. several are going to attend, donald trump, jeb cruise, all potential electorates. they're injecting dollars to support lavish lifestyles. back in 2020 leticia james sued the gun sales promotion group seeking to absolve it. they said they were defrauded organization's donors. spending millions on trips to bahamas, all expense paid trips to safaris, yachts.
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the nra filed bankruptcy. a few months ago a judge blocked the bid by attorney general james to shutter the nra but allowed her suit against it to move forward. joining me, david hobb, survivor of the 2018 shooting at marjorie stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. good to see you again, david. does it surprise you at all that the purpose of the nra appears to be, yes, selling lots of guns, making sure the gun sales manufacturers make a lot of money but also living like kings? >> unfortunately, no. it's very clear that the nra board and leadership is not the same as the membership. i talked with many of the members. i've actually found some common ground with nra members. it's the leadership that is constantly telling americans
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that we can't agree on this issue, that we can't do anything about this. look, joy, i'm not going to lie. americans are very divided. we know what we don't agree on. we need to focus on what we can agree on. that's why i've been talking with former congressman joe walsh who have come forward including the former chairman of the rnc who said that they want to figure out how we can work together not as democrats and republicans but as americans. i don't agree with everything joe says. i don't agree with everything michael believes in either but we do agree ultimately, the vast number of americans do, that we must do something to save our kids. we're calling for a second march for our lives to come in. and show up and march with us to demand congress be united in the way americans are calling and be
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united around this issue. we agree gun violence must end. if you agree with that, if you want to demand that text march to 954954. march to 954954. >> you know, look, there were students marching, walking out today from all over the country, walkouts. i think we have video of one of them in detroit. once again, kids are being called upon to lead, to try to save their own lives which is embarrassing for me as an adult and as a parent. the same thing happened with you guys, the march for our lives. i attended it. it was one of the most incredible rallies, including the moment of silence for 6 minutes. i've never seen anyone command television and understand the power of silence like -- i've never seen anything like that. right? it was so moving and it made a lot of us believe, okay, this is going to happen, right? nothing happened. and the reason it didn't happen is money. money is more powerful than even
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that image, of a survivor of a school massacre. look at the money. $13.6 million over his career lifetime mitt romney has taken in from the nra. you can go all the way down to marco rubio who is running for president. that's what boosts their numbers. the top five recipients of money per open secrets are john boozeman, john thooum, lisa murkowski. those are the people who would have to come together with democrats to pass the thing everyone, including every gun owner, i know people with homes full of guns and even they say that you at your age should not be able to buy an ar-15 because you can't rent a car, probably, right? somebody 18, 19, 20 who can't rent a car shouldn't be able to get a weapon. they agree on it. those people who get that money are paid to say no.
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how do you change that? >> i think it comes down to people like mitt romney thinking about their kids honestly. i think in this moment it's really hard even if you've taken that amount of money to look and say, kids being dropped off at school, only be able to be identified by their dna is somehow acceptable in our country, that that has to be the cost of this issue. it doesn't. i know that mitt romney and others have taken a lot of money from the nra but ultimately if they want to play ball and do something around background checks, rick scott has done a lot of stuff. florida state legislature is largely owned by the nra. guess what, we showed up and demanded action and we did debunk the gun laws. this has been used 6,000 times
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to disarm people that are a risk to themselves and others. these laws do work. the reason why it worked, we worked together with republicans who i very much do not agree with. there are things in that bill we passed that i do not agree with, but ultimately it did pass laws and it saved lives. guess who signed it? rick scott who is in the senate and is taking money from the nra. i know they have in the past, but ultimately if they want to do the right thing now, even if it saves just one life, i'm here to talk to them and help them. my goal is to attack one thing, attacking gun violence. >> yes. >> none of us think that that should continue. we need to demand that our leaders act and importantly, joy, as americans we need to make sure that the media doesn't just move on from this issue and it goes away and we wait until the sandy hook or the next parkland. >> that's right. >> we need action now. >> yeah. >> do this one thing. >> republicans kids and
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grandkids shouldn't be shot down in school either. everyone should agree on this. everyone. every gun owner agrees with it. david hogg, always good to see you. >> march with us on june 11th. thank you. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you. coming up next, trying to understand conservatives just obsession with specifically these weapons that are designed for warfare which are now being used to slaughter innocent americans at an appalling, shocking rate. we'll be right back. shocking rate. we'll be right back. weathertece protection for your vehicle. laser-measured floorliners... no drill mudflaps... cargoliner... bumpstep... seat protector... and cupfone. ♪ what about my car? weathertech.
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today's republican party doesn't actually stand for much except banning books, turning women into state mandated inkuwaitors and guns. you have to prove that you love guns, guns are the precious in order to get anywhere in the party. how else are they going to get the nra to pay their campaign expenses? >> some people say i won't support guns. they're dead wrong. pull! >> a conservative warrior, and when he fights back he brings out the big guns. >> you don't know who's got what in their purse. lipstick, an iphone or maybe a little smith and wesson .38. >> in 2022 i'm going to blow away the democrats' socialist agenda.
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>> okay. y'all realize that's crazy, right? and once elected, they don't actually do anything except stand in the way of sensible gun reform that roughly 80% of americans support, and when the tragedies strike and more americans die, the best they can muster up is their thoughts and prayers, as if they don't have any power to do anything. they're planning on doing nothing because, again, they love guns. >> i mean, it was -- it was a tragedy. you know, we all appear immediately, you think about your own family. >> i believe that we don't have a gun control problem. we have an idiot control problem. >> i can't assure the american people there's any law we can pass to stop this shooting.
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>> senator firing off a few rounds from an ar-style rifle. >> the entire state of texas, the entire country is grief stricken. ♪♪ the republican party never changes. for decades and consistently blocked gun reform. but they sat aside and watched the body cam rice. will this time different? we'll see right after the break. different we'll see right after th
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bus was in 1994. thanks to joe biden. it provided the manufacturer or for certain assault opens, a sign of mission magazines. a lot expired in 2004, under the george bush administration and a republican controlled congress. since then, republicans have refused to do anything about guns. in the meantime where children have paid the price of their inaction. and of the literal arms race taking place on our population. >> congress voted on a gun control bill on wednesday, and it was rejected. a lot of required mandatory background checks on private gun sales. >> just hours to go, and it appears expanded background checks is headed to failure today. he disappointments when utah on families and advocates like gaby giffords and mark kelly. >> moments ago the senate
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defeated several last-minute gun control amendments. >> four votes lost night on wanted to about guns and aftermath of the orlando massacre. >> these gun control measures golfer votes but none of them got the necessary votes to move forward. >> with me now kirk bardella advisor to the dnc. there is actually data that shows that crime bill action decrease the number of law suckers. and after it exploded. running to get those numbers only come up. but for no, let's talk about this district where this master took place. this is a district where there is an opportunity for the person representing the district, and there's the mass shootings before there was a gun, loss of weapons ban. and then after it expired. the red on the endless after the assault weapons ban expired and the blue is before.
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so it went down and went way up afterwards. there was an opportunity for the man who represents this district that contains uvalde. his name is tony gonzales. he won the seat in the district very narrowly he got about 50% of the votes or possibly more of the vote. and there was a third candidate the libertarian. he areas talking to garrett haake about why he did not support h are eight, which would've been a microchip bill that actually would've helped in this case. >> why in texas can you buy an ar-15 when you're 18 years old? you can't buy a borrowing or 18 years old, why can you be able to byron assault rifle? >> part of the situation we aren't unified. >> we are unified. >> nor not. >> 80% of the country is in favor of mandatory universal by context. that is about as unified as we
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get about anything. >> what happens anytime there's something that goes wrong, people like to blame other people instead of cheating in lloyd. >> why doesn't 18 air old knee in an 18 -- >> the salute of process works, these congress determines the laws. right now, we have a congress now won't talk to one another. >> he did not answer the question. this is bragging about voting against gun reform legislation. this seems to me like a layup for democrats as a swing swing district. >> if that's your campaign, if you're running against this guy is the poster child for all republicans. or the point here where, how many lives into lost? what's the threshold for the pro-life party to decide that enough is enough. it's interesting that when anyone that has a dark shade of skin commit the crime republicans are willing to move at warp speed to do anything.
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or this build a wall, pass the patriot act they're willing to go to extreme measures anytime someone with a darker shade can mits a crime. but got forbid another gun crime happens they're nowhere to be found. they're celebrating, they're having a convention this week in texas, and they're gonna celebrate gun ownership in america. this is the only place in the world where we live through the cycle every week, every month. and never ends. and they're public answers we'll, we just in morgan's. if morgan's where the answer, joy, this wouldn't happen anymore. we have more guns for capita than anywhere in the world, where they talking about? and then of the day, the republican party made a conscious decision that it is a design that it doesn't matter to them the lives that are lost. there are some to lawsuits, because as more brian for them to be able to walk around with ar-15s and feel like they're tough and live out their goofy and sickening fantasy world
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where they get to walk around and showcase their bravado and strength and might while their kids die. that's really around in this country. >> there's arsonist pro-life, that's him should be banished it isn't real. there's no country on earth where people run for office by kass playing as a mass shooter. that is a massive guns like you're in a multi conflict nobody does not want this country. all in with chris a starts now. >>not wa nt thi tonight on all in. >> it was reported that a school district police officer confronted the suspect those making an entry. not accurate. >> massive new questions about the timeline of the school shooting, as dystopian distractions to actual solutions continue. >> god help us. if we don't harden our schools and protect our kids. >> tonight, or learning about what actually happened in


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