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politicians to form the will to actually get something done. they deserve the credit for what happened yesterday. it is not enough. but it is a step in the right direction. now let's take the next one. >> former congressman beto o'rourke, now candidate for the state of texas. thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you. it is now the top of the hour. the fifth public hearing by the house committee investigating the january 6 attack on the capitol focused on how former president trump tried to strong arm the justice department into over turning the results of 2020 election. those efforts include a pursuit of the attorney general who would go along with trump's conspiracy theories in his attempt to hold on to power. also ahead this hour, evidence that at least six republican members of the house who assisted trump sought pardons. plus the latest on gun safety that we just mentioned overnight with the senate passing a bipartisan bill. hours after the supreme court issued its most significant ruling on guns in years, mika.
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>> and we start the fourth hour of "morning joe" with the january 6 select committee holding the final public hearing before the july 4th recess and there were plenty of fireworks and a lot of drama. top officials from the justice department described then president donald trump's relentless obsessive efforts to persuade doj officials to join him in a plat to overturn the 2020 election results by just saying the election was corrupt and essentially act as an extension of his campaign. riveting testimony came from trump's former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen. his deputy richard donahue and steven engel. >> how often did president trump contact you or the department to push allegations of election fraud? >> so, between december 23rd and january 3rd, the president
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either called me or met with me virtually every day. >> so the common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction that the justice department in his view had not done enough to investigate election fraud. but at different junctures, other topics came up at different intervals so at one point he had raised the question of having a special council for election fraud. at a number of points he raised requests that i meet with his campaign council, mr. giuliani. at one point he raised the -- whether the justice department would file a lawsuit in the supreme court. a couple of junctures there were questions about making public statements or about holding a press conference. one of the latest junctures was
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the issue of sending a letter to state legislatures in georgia. >> on december 13th an organization called the allied security group issued a report that the dominion machines had a 68% error rate. >> you noted that mr. roz ebb said to mr. trump, quote, doj can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election. how did the president respond to that, sir. >> he responded very quickly and said essentially, that is not what i'm asking to you do. what i'm just asking you to do is say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> just say the investigation was corrupt and leave it to me and the republican congressman. that is an exact quote from the president? >> that is an exact quote from the president, yes.
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>> the next note shows that even that the president kept pressing and told there was no evidence of fraud, the president keep saying that the department was obligated to tell people that this was an illegal corrupt election. >> that is also an exact quote from the president. >> one person apparently ready to do trump's bidding was jeffrey clark. a low-level justice department environmental official. who trump considered elevating to acting attorney general in the final weeks of his term. >> did the president tell you that he would remove you and mr. rosen because you weren't declaring that there was election fraud? >> toward the end of the meeting, the president again was getting very agitated and he said that people tell me i should just get rid of both of you. i should just remove you.
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>> mr. clark had told us that the president had asked him to consider whether he would be willing to replace me and supposedly on a time table by monday the 4th. and so i had told mr. clark, i thought he was making a colossal error in judgment. >> the committee show cased how clark was instrumental to trump's plot, clark and another trump loyalist were behind a draft letter to state officials in georgia which called joe biden's win there into question. >> this letter claims that the u.s. department of justice's investigations have, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states. the department recommends that the georgia general assembly should convene in special session, end quote. and consider approving a new slate of electors. and it indicates that a
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separate, quote, fake slate of electors supporting donald trump has already been transmitted to washington, d.c. >> all of this culminated in an oval office showdown on january 3rd with former president trump and acting attorney general rosen, clark and others staffers. it was in that meeting when trump revealed he was ready to appoint clark as his new attorney general. >> the president turned to me, and he said well one thing we know is you, rosen, you aren't going to do anything. you don't even agree with the claims of election fraud. and this other guy, at least might do something. and then i said, well, mr. president, you're right, that i i'm not going to allow the just department to do anything to try to over turn the election. that is true. but the reason for that is because that is what is consistent with the facts and
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the law and that is what is required under the constitution. so that is the right answer and a good thing for the country. >> the president said what do i have to lose? and it was actually a good opening because i said, mr. president, you have a great deal to lose. all anyone is going to think is that you went through two attorneys general in two weeks until you found the environmental guy to sign this thing. and so the story is not going to be that the department of justice has found massive corruption that would have changed results of the election, it is going to be the disaster of jeff clark and i think at that point pat cipollone said this is a murder-suicide pact. >> it was revealed that federal law enforcement has raided jeffy clarked home executing a search warrant. he told fox news roughly a dozen federal agents, two local police officers and an electronic sniffing dog appeared at his
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virginia home on wednesday morning searching the house for three and a half hours. he said those agents took all of the electronics from his home. let's bring in washington post congressional reporter jackie alemany and from the university of michigan law school barbara mcquade. good morning to you both. quickly on the last story, what does it tell you that his home, that jeffy clark's home was raided and that agents spent three and a half hours in there. so on the one hand we're talking about the explosive hearings and the new details but on the other side the department of justice continues its work as well. >> yeah, of course, we don't know what the basis of that search was. but to be able to have a search warrant, to go into someone's home, the agents needed a judge to find probable cause to believe that evidence of a specific crime will be found at that location. not just crime in a general sense. but putting forth the evidence they have to prove probable cause of a particular crime.
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and so that said to me a couple of things. number one it said, this is not the first thing they're thinking about with jeff clark, they've been working for months to prove to a judge they have probable cause of a crime. and it said they have exhausted some of their covert aspects of investigation because you only go overt with a search warrant once you've reached a stage of investigation when you have resulted all of the investigation. so it said that they've reached a place of maturity in a criminal investigation involving jeffrey clark. i think that is very significant. i also note, willie, this is the hearing that got delayed. it was supposed to have been last wednesday. and i can't help but wonder if there wasn't a reason for the delay, the waiting for the execution of the search warrants on the same day that they did something like nine grand jury subpoenas for people that signed the alternate slate of electors. and so i wonder if all of that wasn't the reason for the delay for one week for this hearing. >> and clark said he was let
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outside in his pajamas and not allowed to put his pants on. so while that was happening at his home, at the center of yesterday's hearing as we heard from jeffrey rosen and from richard donoghue. the role that clark tried to play in becoming the attorney general and push along this coup, that there was a plot here and you hear is captor and verse from the witnesses inside of the room in the oval office and we heard some of the sound bites but also pushing the wild conspiracy theories about italy satellites and chinese thermometers and seizing the voting machines, trying to grasp on to something with donald trump and his republican allies in congress to flip this election. >> yeah. jeffrey clark was at the heart of the former president's efforts to leverage the doj and abuse the department of justice in order to stay in power through any means possible. you heard rudy giuliani describe
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clark as someone would potentially didn't care about his professional reputation when it came to implementing these far-fetched conspiracy theories that no one else around trump wanted to touch. but i also think we need to know that it was congressman scott perry who actually was the connective tissue here. he introduced the former president to and the former chief of staff to trump to jeffrey clark and suggested and recommended that they utilize clark inside of the department of justice and ultimately try to oust jeffrey rosen and replace him with clark. you know, scott perry is -- was one of the people who was pushing italy-gate. this farfetched conspiracy theory that the italian defense contractor was conspiring with the cia toute satellites to flip votes from trump to joe biden. he pushed that in multiple emails to department of justice
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officials. he pushed it to mark meadows asking, you know, why they couldn't just work with the italians to figure this out and ultimately it got elevated to the highest levels of government. during a time when there was a lot of other things as sam stein just noted, including a pandemic that has killed million americans going on. but ultimately as the committee drilled down on yesterday, because of jeffrey rosen, rich donoghue and steven engle, three people who stood up against jeffrey clark and the former president and threatened to cause a mass resignation so jeffrey clark would be leading a graveyard. the former president was not able to go through with a lot of what he was trying to. >> jackie, talk to me about the pardons. i mean, you even saw a staffer being deposed about the pardons
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and having a hard time keeping a straight face because they were ridiculous. who was asking for pardons, why and what kinds of pardons were they looking for? >> yeah. mika, there were a number of pardons that were thrown out at the end there. you had cassidy hutchinson and eric hershman saying that andy biggs, louie gohmert and scott perry were in some capacity asking for a preemptive pardon or a pardon to potentially ward them against any criminal prosecution that might have come out of their efforts to assist trump in over turning the results of the election. there was an email that was displayed at the beginning of this segment of the public hearing yesterday from mo brooks that was sent to molly michael who was an official in the white house who worked closely with a lot of people in the oval office, asking her what the status was and specifically requesting a pardon for matt
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gaetz, mind you at the same time gaetz is also facing other criminal potential criminal challenges with regards to his communications with underage women. and this was not well received very clearly by eric hershman who has become a recurring role in these hearings as a brash talking expletive laced former white house official when you boil it down to the simplest terms found all of the proposals to be insane, that is the language that he used. >> wow. >> but yesterday night, after votes, we caught up with a bunch of the gop lawmakers who mostly remain silent about their request for pardons. but also marjorie taylor greene who was one of the names that cassidy hutchinson who had heard who had asked for a pardon said that people who are unfairly prosecuted ask for pardons just look at julian assange.
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>> reaching there. barbara, let me ask you about this quote that so many people have zeroed in on from the hearing yesterday came from richard donoghue, the former acting assist attorney general who said this of donald trump, quoting him, had notes that he took during a phone call with the former president. he quoted the president as saying, what i'm asking you to do is just say it was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. he said i need a justice department that could declare this corrupt and i will take care of the rest with the small group of republican congressman and women that are willing to help me along. what do you hear in that as a former prosecutor? >> boy, that is the money quote, willie. i think that is exactly how disinformation works. it is i need some organization with legitimacy to repeat what i'm say so that it isn't just me. look, it is the justice department that said there is fraud. and if that would be enough for
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him to be able to push what he wanted to happen in congress which is to get congress members to go along with it and refuse to certify the election. it is exactly like what he said to president zelenskyy in ukraine. remember when he said about an investigation into joe biden. i don't need a real investigation. i just need you to make an announcement that there is an investigation. all we need is that little germ to be able to convince the public that there is a there there-there. and that is how he was tried to justify the criminal intent. >> and the department of justice not limited to washington. kelli ward and her husband michael received grand jury subpoenas from the department of justice regarding their involvement in a scheme to send fake lectors to congress on jon 6th, 2021. politico reported it that the very many suggests that a deepening doj investigation of an effort by republican party officials to deliver false
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slates of electors to congress. both michael and kelli ward were among the pro-trump activists who signed certificates claiming to be the qualified electors for trump from arizona. and an attorney for the wards said this is an investigation based on allegations that our clients engaged in core first amendment activity, petitioning for congress for address of grievances and ward was subpoenaed by the house select committee back in february. so, barbara, kelli ward was a key player here in the state of department. in trying to flip the votes to present a new slate of electors. what do you think the doj is looking at this in case. >> this is where all of the threats possibly come together. so i'm sure they want to know at this point, she's more likely a witness than a target. why did she do this. who told you to do this? because we know that of effort was coordinated. it didn't rise out of arizona.
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the justice department is investigating the false slate of electors but that comes together when you realize that this is the plan, to have pence throw them out so trump could be declared the winner. so by investigating those threads, it will lead them to the oval office and donald trump. >> wow, jackie, so let's talk about what is next. i understand there is a hiatus for the month of july. do we know how many more hearings they will be and when they're going to start up again. >> that is a moving target at the moment. the investigation is live as investigators and lawmakers on the committee have reminded us and just this week they received sort of a bombshell from alex holder, a british document arian embedded with the trump family and came forward to the committee after he saw several inconsistencies in the public hearings. he was subpoenaed and handed
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over all of his footage. along with other records requests and documents that the committee has now received from the national archives and the courts just threw the legal process that which has taken a while and they need some time to recalibrate here and make sure that the evidence that think collected is fully reflected in the public hearings. i think also just from a metabolism standpoint, there was a lot that was thrown at us yesterday. even on that topic of false electors. this is a little bit in the weeds, but based on of what barb was saying they made the connection from john eastman, the lawyer who authored the legal coup, that was proposing to submit alternate slate of electors to jeffrey clark. eastman happened to be colleagues and close with ken eblg klukowski, who worked for jeffrey clark in the department of justice and continues to stay in touch with john eastman while in trump's department of justice
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serving the american government. so these little tidbits, now we have a few weeks to explore them even further and when we come back if fr the fourth of july, we'll hear extremism and cultural violence on the right and how americans become radicalized domesticry and there is a finale, what lawmakers have been calling his dereliction of duty. why he took him 187 minutes to respond to the violence on the capitol. by there is based off the new evidence the committee is seeing. >> "the washington post," and thank you bash are you make quaid, thank you as well. we're going to take a look at fallout from the supreme court's monumental ruling on guns. including how the businesses and half a dozen states with similar laws are reacting.
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new york is an americans are less safe based on this ruling. we had over 350,000 people in "times" square last mond. this a unique place and if you
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stay any and every one that a law-abiding citizen could carry a gun, that is problematic. >> that is eric adams with us this morning. reacting to the supreme court decision yesterday on gun rights. court rules in a 6-3 decision to strike down new york state's concealed carry law. hours later the senate passed the most sweeping gun reform bill in a generation with 15 republicans, joining all democrats in support. the bill now goes to the house where it is also expected to pass. and nancy pelosi has promised a vote today. the new york times with this headline. in one day washington went in two directions on guns. joining us now morning joe senior contributor, eugene daniels and and rue ross sorkin and charles coleman. good morning to all of you. charles, i want to start with you with the legal angle on all of this. first on the supreme court, what is your read of that ruling and what impact it may have as eric
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adams laid out for us in new york for example. >> this is the biggest expansion of the second amendment that we've seen since a case that came out of d.c. where scalia during that time made it a constitutional right to own a firearm in your home. and. >> the heller decision. >> correct. and now this expands that. the bigger issue, however, willie are the implications. the supreme court makes decisions in a vacuum but the issue is that those decisions don't stay in that vacuum. and so for me, as a former prosecutor, as a civil rights attorney would is responsible for protecting the rights of people and citizens, and as a black man in new york, i'm extremely concerned about the effect that this is going to have on policing. because we are already in a situation where communities of color and black people in new york are overpoliced and now what this does is it ramps up the idea, particularly when
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crime is soaring across the country that police will not have an additional excuse to say, well, i thought he was armed. well, i was in fear for my life because there is going to be more guns on the street and that is going to create an issue. and so we're moving that in terms of what reasonable doubt actually may look like in situations because of the ruling and because of this implications and it has a really, really strong impact for black communities and a lot of black pain is going to result from this. and i don't think that that could be underestimated because it has such a peculiar impact given the impacts of new york city. >> and one of things that mayor adams said that the escalation of people of a conflict, if you have the ability and the act of a weapon your hip, an argument turns into a shootout. >> and that is the conundrum that you face because there are already so many guns on the street. so i understand that there are more people who are going to seek to own a firearm to protect themselves.
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so this is basically constructed a perfect storm of a huge mess that is on mayor adam's hands and we'll have to diesel with. >> so let's talk about businesses cope with this. this is new. since 1911 in this city, there has been a law in place that said you have to have cause to carry a weapon. now that cause is out the window. >> if you're a private business, say you're starbucks or mcdonald's, you're a shop on madison avenue, anywhere in new york city, you can have your own rules in place that say you can't bring a gun into the store. but someone has to enforce that. so now all of a sudden your staff is put into this uniquely particularly complicated place and that is the conversation that i was hearing about yesterday from ceo's across country who are dealing with new york state but how this manifests across country in terms of what their ruling are going to be and the security concerns that that puts for both their staff to enforce these things and then the consumers. >> think about the baristas that
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have to tell people to put their masks on and now you have to tell them you can't bring a handgun into the starbucks. >> how are you going to communicate that. you have signage but then somebody said i'm not reading the signage, i'm walking in and i've got my gun on me, what kind of training is required to have that conversation. these now are into a difficult place. >> and mika, now there is the washington angle of this as well which is the balance that we saw yesterday where the senate with 65 votes did pass gun legislation. it is not everything that democrats wanted. but it will prevent hopefully potentially some people who shouldn't have guns in their hands from getting them. >> yep, it is something. let's go to eugene daniels. and i wonder how the white house is sort of strategizing around all of the things that went down in washington yesterday. we'll start with guns. but the hearings must have been
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of great interest inside of the white house. >> starting with guns, yesterday for a lot of people was the perfectin capsulation of the gun culture in this country. you talked about passage in the senate of this bill that going to the house that possibly is getting passed in the house and going to the president to sign at some point. and then you have in the supreme court going the opposite of what we know that americans want in this country. we've seen it for a long time and there is more restrictions on guns. and the supreme court use be a place that -- an institution that was concerned with how the institution was perceived by the american people. and they didn't want to be too out of touch. the american people were moving one way, they typically try to move in that same direction. we're seeing that not be the case any more. with guns and also with the likelihood abortion case that is coming out. potentially today and probably next week. and so in the white house, on that issue, i talked to an aide
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just recently and what is he said was that the president was going to continue to look at executive orders. they do feel like all of the big things that they could do, they've done. there is a possibility to look at something else for example. and as soon as the house passions it, they want to go to the president and if that happens today, the plan is to do a statement, to sign it and then after he gets back from his european trip, to do kind of a big event celebrating that we were able to do something in this country on this issue. and on january 6, you know, watching how the doj was pressured, how then president trump tried to use the doj kind of as his own personal law firm so to speak, that is one of the reasons in the white house why you're seeing the president not talk much about january 6. and seeing the president not talk about what the doj should be doing when it comes to that day, to what that -- how that investigation is going.
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because they don't want to even -- the whiff of the impropriety when it comes to it and that is how the white house has viewed that for a long time. >> let me ask you before i hop back to andrew about what you saw yesterday. as a former prosecutor and as an attorney, we talked about that quote from donald trump as saying just say it was corrupt, i'll handle the rest. what did you see in that hearing yesterday? >> well it was a great concern that you saw the intentionality of donald trump and trying to effect the doj as his validator with respect to the lie. so now we've seen pressure on doj and the judiciary, that remains to be seen. but it was systemic in terms of how donald trump sought to execute this plan and looking to use the doj is of particular merit. because as lawyers, we're supposed to enforce what is right. we're supposed to be impartial and objective and seek fact and truth. and so when you look to have lawyers validate this lie, what
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you are trying to do is basically rely on that. you're trying to lean into that and use that cover of impartiality of justice if you will, of fairness to the american public to sell this lie. so it really is insidious, when you consider how deep this actually went and that is deeply disturbing. but i was glad to see that acting attorney general at the time and there were others who would say, no, this is gone too far and this is not appropriate. >> they did say no and that is why the president started fishing around for someone else named jeffrey clark. to hop back to guns, quickly, andrew. kirkland ellis is in washington, d.c. >> i'm here with a counselor. >> the lawyer who represented the nra in front of the supreme court. he wins the victory yesterday and ellis said what afterwards. >> we're not doing this any more. you're out. they're now going, two of the lawyers will be leaving that firm. >> they resigned. >> effectively to go create
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their own boutique. but it raises a question about what lawyers an services do around guns and what banks do around the country. and the decisions that their employees are pushing them on the issues. often times as we know the public polls are very different from what the laws are that being created and yet at the same time for example banks, they're banks that have wanted to get involved in guns, gun tracking and things like that. however, at same time, there are states like texas where if you want to issue underwrite municipal bonds, if you come out publicly and do anything they think is discriminatory against guns you can't be in that business. so there is a bottom line impact and i think there is a lot of folks trying to figure out what the moral thing is to do, but also frankly what the problem is to do. i hate to say those two things are now in conflict, the attorney wins for the supreme court and resigns after his firm said we're not doing this any
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more. andrew ross sorkin and charles coleman and eugene daniels covering a lot of ground for us this morning. guys, thank you to you all. mika. >> up next, richard engle joins us from kyiv live with his exclusive interview with ukrainian president -- excuse me, i lost my voice there. the ukrainian president zelenskyy. that is what four hours will do. plus one year ago today, a 12 story building in surfside, florida, collapsed, killing nearly 100 people. we'll go live to florida to see how the community is rebuilding physically and emotionally. the the physically and emotionally they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination.
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have nearly encircled it. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent richard engle who just sat down with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. it was part of a discussion for the aspen idea festival. richard, what did he tell you. >> we spoke for a long time. we sat down in his office here in kyiv for about 40 minutes. and this entire interview is going to run at you mentioned next week at aspen ideas festival. but there are certain elements of it that are newsworthy and we're just going to go with them right now. and he described the situation as critical. it is not just critical out in the east, also it is critical in the south and we've heard president zelenskyy say that he needs more weapons. that he needs more weapons from the united states, and other countries. we've heard him say that before but he emphasized he needs a lot more weapons. that right now they are outgunned 10 to 1.
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for every single artillery shell that ukrainian forces fire toward russian troops, they are receiving ten artillery shells in return. he thanks president biden. he said that the weapons that they've received so far are helpful. but that they need more. and this pullback that we saw just right now in severodonetsk and it shows that they're struggling to hold pockets. so the weapons, he stressed is critical. he also talked about his concern that the west is going to have -- that the west is going to eventually move on to other things. potentially lose focus on ukraine. and that is why i think it is one of the reasons that he did the interview and reaching out to the festivals and events like as pen, he wants ukraine to stay at the senor of the world's attention because he said frankly without international support, without the united states support, ukraine couldn't handle this war on its own.
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and i also asked about those two americans, these are two american veterans who came here as volunteers, actually responding to president zelenskyy's personal appeal for foreigners to come to this country and fight against russian troops to defend ukraine democracy. they were captured by russian forces. tloez two americans. and the kremlin can't guarantee that they won't receive the death penalty. and he was optimistic and is optimistic that negotiations that are underway that he said are a priority, will help bring them and other forners and ukrainians back from russian custody. >> what can i say. er that heroes. for me they are the same like ukrainians because think give and they gave the main things they had.
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their lives. but i'm sure we'll fight for them and get them back and of course they will come back to your families to their children or to their -- i mean their relatives, parents and for me it is a great honor that some soldiers from people, just people who are not afraid, not afraid and they came to support us, our sovereignty. >> so you know we often hear from president zelenskyy, every day he gives recorded addresses to show his presence in this country. to keep the people motivated. but he doesn't sit down for one-on-one interviews very long. very often. and i asked him today, does this moment that has become something of a legend in this country, when the americans were reportedly asked him if he wants to leave, were offering him safe passage because at the time in the early days of the war, it was assumed that russian forces would quickly sweep through this country and he said allegedly,
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this is allegedly, he said, no, i don't need a ride, i need ammunition. i ask him did you really say that and he said it happened and that united states and other countries put out extensive offers including offers of planes and helicopters to evacuate him and his family. but that he declined. >> wow, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engle, thank you very much. and we'll note that nbc universal news group is the media partner for the aspen ideas festival. and still ahead on "morning joe," the surfside condo collapse one year later. today the first lady will lead a service to remember the victims of that disaster. as survivors are still struggling over what happened. we'll get a live report from florida straight ahead. plus, with women across country bracing for a supreme court decision on roe v. wade,
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with tremfya®... ask your doctor about tremfya® today. surfside, florida, that killed 80 people. dr. jill biden will hold a ceremony to comaemry the victims it comes after a judge gave the approval for a $1 settlement for the families of victims and also the second largest class action lawsuit in florida history. joining us now from surfside, florida, nbc news correspondent sam brock. sam, how are people there commemorating what happened? >> mika, good morning. ia you see the images of what the tower looked like a year ago
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and youye can't help but feel shudders going up and down your body. thed family says there's not going to be closure. there might be catharsis, but not closure. there was a small gathering of families where they lit tortures and commemorated the exact time where the building collapsed, 1:20 in the morning and there's going to be a two-hour ceremony with dr. erjill biden giving th primary remarks there. that's taking place mere feet away from where there's a hole in the ground where the tower once stood.e family members told me they're still having nightmares to this day,re 98 souls killed in that collapse, 12 floors eradicated without provocation. we had never seen anything like this in our country's history. one question many folks might have, what has florida done to try to stop this tragedy from happening again. the state legislature went through its entire session without doing anything. they couldn't come to agreement and finally went to a special session and have a series of now
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rules including structural inspection after 30 years. 25 if you're three miles or less to the coast, as we are right here. there's got to be a reserve study every ten years. the most important aspect is florida andor ohio, the only tw states in theth country where property owners can just reject requests from their board to put in money to reserve spending, which is why in the opinion of the person who didth the study might have been the single largest factor in what led to this catastrophe. that's going to be corrected by 2025. ee we spoke with pablo rodriguez who lost his mom and grandmother. they weren't supposed to be there that night, but his mom woke up to creaking sounds, decided to stay another night because she didn't get a good night's rest. here's pablo describing what happened. >> by far the worst moment in my life. is there a day that passed by that it's not in my mind? no, every day it's on my mind.
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if i'm r driving home from work, i usually end up tearing up because at that time, i always called my mom and my grandmother. we spoked every single day. >> mika, there are hundreds of stories justun like that. and you mentioned, $1 billion ll settlement, a lot of money. it happened quickly, but the one thing is no accountability, none of the 25-plus defendants are acknowledging wrongdoing. that's part of the deal. >> nbc news correspond sam brock, thank you thank you much for that report. >> the supreme court could release its highly anticipated ruling that could overturn roe v. wade this morning, in a matter of as we await that decision, many women in states with newly restrictive abortion laws are resorting to new measures to obtain the care they need. nbcth news correspondent, nbc ns now anchor morgan radford joins us with that story. morgan, good morning. >> good morning. these are new measures but they're desperate ones. in facts, some states like texas
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have enacted new restrictive laws but that's not stopped women from seeking abortions elsewhere. it just forces them to live hours across state lines or fleeing the country altogether. for many women, this doctor is their lastto chance. his new mexico practice is one of just axi few remaining abortn clinics along the u.s./mexico border. just one mile west of the texas state line. >> we have increased by 100, so we do about 250 a month now. >> abortions per month. >> perns month. >> that jump since last september, when a texas law banned abortions as early as 6 weeks s into pregnancy. before inthat, the state allowe them up s to 20 weeks. >> not doing an abortion because you are six weeks or five weeks is almost like not doing abortions at all. >> but some of those who can't find the help they're looking for across state lines are
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leaving the country entirely. many american women are coming here ton mexico to buy abortio pills, the most commonly used is noton required prescription and costed about a tenth of the price. we're about to meet two women who provide abortion services out of their home here in mexico. just outside of monterey, activists vanessa and sandra founded this, where they provide the abortion inducing drug and guide women on how to take it. they say they have seen a dramatic surge of american clients since thege texas law wt into effect. so before you were seeing two to three american women a year. now you're seeing five american women a week. >> mm-hmm. >> and sometimes more. and where are they coming from specifically? so the majority of women you're seeing are coming from texas. >> and they're not alone. another mexican organization
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which opened its doors in january says americans now make up 25% of its customers. can you give me an example, what do the women coming from texas tell you? it's fear, not only of going to jail but the economic penalties. and you're saying even though therein hasn't been a case sinc the law changed in september in texas, it's enough to inspire so much fear. a fear that's driving many women even further from home. sandra and vanessa say that most of their patients contact them actually through social media, like facebook or whatsapp, often more than six weeks pregnant and many of them afraid of legal repercussions. in the meantime, abortion providers on both sides of the border tell us they expect to see even more women coming through their doors if roe v. wade is overturned and they say they will be ready. >> as you say, this may just be the beginning. we'll see that decision perhaps in d three minutes or maybe nex
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week. great report from mexico. thank you.ea >> as we said just moments froms now, the supreme court will issue a list of new decisions including what could be that ruling on abortion. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage in just three minutes. s and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. every year we try to exercise more, to be more social, to just relax.
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good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. right now, we're awaiting decisions from the supreme court, just nine cases to go for this session, including one on abortion that could decide the fate of roe v. wade. >> and breaking this morning, the house taking up a historic bipartisan gun violence prevention bill, passed by the senate overnight. minnesota senator tina smith will join us live. and today marks one month since a gunman killed 19 elementary school students and two teachers in uvalde, texas. we'll speak with texas state senator roland gutierrez about


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