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everyone else was working to get congress back in the session, what did president trump do? at 6:01, just one minute after the citywide curfew went into effect, he posted his last tweet of the day. after officers engaged in multiple hours of hand to hand combat and over 100 of them sustaining injuries, president tweet president trump tweeted at 6:01 and justified the violence as a natural response to the election.
he said quote, these are the things in events that happened when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who've been badly and unfairly treated for so long. go home with 11 piece. remember this day forever. he called the mob great patriots. he told people to remember the day forever. he showed absolutely no remorse. a few minutes later, at 6:27, the president left the dining room and he went up to the white house residence for the night. on the screen is the last photograph of the president that night as he went into the residence. as he was gathering his things in the dining room to leave, president trump reflected on the day's events with the white house employee. this was the same employee who
had met president trump in the oval office after he returned from the ellipse. president trump said nothing to the employee about the attack. he said only quote, mike pence let me down. miss matthews, what was your reaction to president trump's 601 tweet? >> at that point i had already made the decision to resign and this tweet further cemented my decision. i thought that january 6, 2021 was one of the darkest days in our nation's history and president trump was treating it as a celebratory occasion with that we, and so it just further cemented my decision to resign. >> others agreed with your assessment that we. let's hear what they had to say. >> who asked about this tweet before it was sent? >> the president. >> tell us about that conversation and everything he said and he said to the best of your recollection. >> sure. he said, what do you think of this and i believe i saw the
text message on his phone, and i remember saying to him the wording on the first sentence -- i guess it's one long sentence, the wording on the first sentence would lead some to believe the potentially he had something to do with the events. the events that happened at the capitol. >> what did he say? >> i don't recall him saying anything in response to that, i believe that was the end of the conversation. >> did he change anything in light of your comments? >> no sir he did not. >> and what about this made you think that someone might perceive the president having a role in the violence at the capitol? >> it was my interpretation of the words. i don't write speeches or anything, but the phrase, these are the things that happen -- to me sounded as if culpability was associated with it to me. >> i don't think it's a
patriotic act to attack the capitol, but i have no idea how to characterize the people other than then they trespassed, just draw it property and assaulted the u.s. capitol. i think calling them patriots is let's say a stretch to say the least. >> is that all it is a stretch? or is it flatly wrong? >> i don't think it's a patriotic act to attack the capitol. >> would you call it unpatriotic? >> criminal, unpatriotic, sure. >> what happened at the capitol cannot be justified in any form or fashion. it was wrong and it was tragic and -- it was a terrible day, a terrible day for this country. i thought it was inappropriate. >> why? >> to my mind, it was a day that should be remembered in
infamy. >> despite the violence of the day, the effort to delay the certification continued. that evening, rudy giuliani called several of president trump's political allies in the hour before the joint session resumed. jim jordan and senators marsha blackburn, -- lindsey graham, josh hawley and ted cruz. we know why mr. giuliani was calling them because it's 7:02 he left a voice mail for senator -- that later became public. let's listen to the start of it. >> senator -- or should i say coach. this is rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer. i'm calling because i want to
discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, and our republican friends to just try and slow it down to get these legislators to give them more information. >> mr. giuliani did not even mention the attack on the capitol. instead, he was pushing on behalf of president trump to get members of congress to further delay the certification. even though some members did proceed with objections, vice president pence and congress stood firm and successfully concluded the joint session in the early morning hours of january 7th. here's what some of the members of the presidents party said in the days and weeks after the attack. >> there's no question none, that president trump has practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day.
no question about it. the people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president, and having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories and reckless hyperbole which the president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on the planet earth. >> the violence, obstruction, the chaos we saw earlier was unacceptable, undemocratic. it was the saddest day i have ever had serving as a member of this institution. >> mister speaker today, the speaker's house was attacked,
which is an attack in the bone republic itself. there's no excuse for it. a woman died, and people need to go to jail. and the president should never have spun up certain americans to believe something that simply cannot be. >> after three in the morning, congress certify the 2020 election results. soon after the statement by president trump was posted on dance giving owes twitter account because by now the presidents twitter account had been suspended. as you can see, if president trump stuck with his big lie that the election was stolen, but he did say there would be an orderly transition. we learned though that the statement was not necessarily his idea. jason miller, campaign advisor, told us that after the joint session started, he heard nothing from president trump or the white house about assuring the nation that the transfer of power would take place.
so mr. miller took it upon himself to draft the statement and called the president and 9:23 that night to convince him to put it out. let's let's nobody had to say about the call. >> did he disagree with something that you would put in the statement, some particular word or phrase that he did not warn included? >> i'd say just he wanted to say peaceful transition and i said that ship has already sailed, some will say orderly transition. that was about the extent of the disagreement or pushback in the conversation. >> the last person president trump spoke by phone that night was johnny mcentee, his head of personnel. mr. mcentee told us that they talked about the events of the day and the multiple rocket resignation by administration officials. the decision to resign was one that weighed heavily on people in the ministration. on the one hand, people like mr. pottinger and miss matthews here, as proud as they were to serve, refused to be associated
with president trump's dereliction of duty. but others were sincerely worried that leaving president trump to his own devices would put the country at continued risk. let's know what we heard about that tension from pat cipollone from eugene scalia who was the secretary of labor. >> and then after that some people were resigning obviously over january six. we know who they were. did i considerate? yes, did i do? it no. i was concerned that if people in the counsel's office left, who would replace me and i had some concern that it might be somebody who had been getting bad advice. >> the decision i arrived at was that the most destructive
thing that i could do was to seek a meeting of the cabinet. i wanted to work within the administration to studies the ship and i thought that would have greater value than simply resigning after which point i would've been powerless to affect things within the administration. >> do you think you should be in a cabin in? even >> i don't remember why. i think it had somebody something to do with how the president might react, and things like that. >> there were a couple of calls where meadows -- how the president doing. pompeo would say. how is the president? doing and meadows would say, well he's in a really dark place. like here's one for example, on the 7th of january. so this is a day after? right potus is very emotional and in a bad place. meadows.
>> as you heard secretary ski leah warning president trump to convene a cabinet meeting, it was requesting a member of the president and here's what it said. >> here you can see president secretary scalia recommended the president no longer question the election results. after wednesday, no one can deny that this is not harmful. senate six secretary scalia also highlighted the importance -- and not quote certain private individuals. the secretary scalia did not say it he was referring to rudy giuliani and the rest of the so-called clown car working with president trump to overturn the election. secretary scalia understood that the president needed to do more to reassure the public about the last few weeks of the trump administration. mr. pottinger, when he made a decision to resign, did you walk out of the white house immediately? -- >> secretary scalia understood that the president needed to do more to reassure the public about the last few weeks of the
trump administration. mr. pottinger, when you made the decision to resign did you walk out of the white house immediately? >> no, i wanted to first to talk to my immediate boss, that wasn't national security adviser, robert o'brien. robert or bryant was traveling on the sixth. i reached him at about 4:30 pm and told him that i was submitting my resignation. he accepted the resignation but he also asked whether i could stay until he could get back to the white house. and i agreed to that. we both wanted to make sure that i was leaving in a responsible way. we still have foreign adversaries to worry about. hackers, terrorists, nation states. and i did not want to leave the chair empty while i was the top
national security staffer in the white house. so i ended up staying at my desk, when robert o'brien arrived at the white house the next morning, the morning of the seventh. i debriefed with him and left for the last time. >> you bopha and i both share a passion for the national security of our country. can you share with -- me what's your view on how january 6th impacted our national security? >> when you have a presidential transition, even though the circumstances, it is a time of vulnerability. it's a time of vulnerability. when you have a contested election, i was certainly concerned that some of our adversaries would be tempted to probe or test u.s. resolve as
an example, in late december, the iranian government attacked the u.s. embassy in baghdad. they did that using some of their terrorist proxies. president trump did handle that, he sent a clear warning to the ayatollah and his regime. which, i think kind of had a useful effect. i think we would've handled other threats of that nature, and no other threats materialized before the inauguration on the 20th. but our national security was harmed in a different way than on the 6th of january. which is, it -- i think it emboldened our enemies by give them ammunition to feed a narrative that our system of government doesn't work. that the united states is in decline. china, the putin regime in russia, tehran, they are fond
of pushing these kinds of narratives. and by the way, they are wrong. we've been hearing for the entirety of u.s. history, from kings and despots, but the united states is in decline, and those kings and despots have been proved wrong every single time. but nonetheless, january 6th helped feed the perception that i think emboldens our adversaries. the other part i think is simply our allies. i heard through a lot of friends and allies close friends, supporters of the
united states, that they were concerned about the health of our democracy. so i think it's incumbent upon us to put their minds at ease, to put our own hearts i. d. s by investigating what happened on the sixth and making sure it never happens again. >> look, i've always said that democracies are not defined by bad days, they're defined by how they recover from those bad days. and that's what we are doing here. to bring accountability to that, so we can actually come back even stronger than when we went out on january 6th. mrs. matthews, when you went out the white house that last night, on january six, what did you think americans needed to hear from donald trump? >> i think the american people needed to hear and see to publicly commit to a peaceful or at least orderly transition of power. in the aftermath of the capitol attack, it wasn't just enough for us to ask him to condemn the violence. he needed to agree that he would peacefully transfer power to the incoming administration, because that's one of our fundamentals and what it means to live in a democracy so that evening, when i resigned, the resignation statement that i drafted i reference this and
said our nation needs a peaceful transfer of power, and i hoped you would put some public pressure on the white house and president trump. to publicly agree to in orderly transition. >> i yield for my friend of virginia. >> thank you mr. kinzinger. the stuff that remained at the white house on january 7th knew the president needed to address the nation again. and they had a speech prepared for him that morning, but he refused for hours to give it. as you heard cassidy hutchinson testify previously, president trump finally agreed to recorded adjust to the nation later that evening, the evening of january 7th. because of concerns that he might be removed from power under the 25th amendment, or by impeachment. we know these threats for real. john hannity said so himself in
a text message that day to press secretary kayleigh mcenany. he wrote, no more stolen election talk. yes, impeachment, and 25th amendment are real. we obtained that never before wrong-footed of the president recording his address to the nation that day on january 7th, more than 24 hours he had last address the nation from the rose garden. let us take a look. >> whenever you already, sir. >> i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday, and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our were movement, you do not represent our country. and if you broke the law, you cannot say that --
i am not going to say that. i already said you will pay. the demonstrators who infiltrated the capital have defied the seat of -- it is defiled, right? i can't see it very well. i'm going to do this. let's go. but this election is now over. congress has certified the results -- i do want to say the election is over, i just want to say -- congress has certified the results without saying the election is over. >> now congress -- now congress has certified -- >> go to the paragraph before. okay? i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday -- yesterday's a hard work for me. >> just say -- >> take the word yesterday -- because it doesn't work with -- heinous attack. on our country. say, on our country. want to say that? my only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote. my only goal was to ensure the
integrity of the vote. >> on january seven, one day after he incited an insurrection based on ally, president trump still could not say that the election was over. mr. pottinger, you've taken the oath multiple times in the marines and as an official in the executive branch. can you please share with us your view about the oath of office and how that translates into accepting election results and transfer of power? >> sure. this isn't the first time that we have had a close election in this country and president
trump certainly had every right to challenge in court the results of these various elections. but once you have had due process under the law, you have to conform with the law no matter how bitter the result. once you've presented your evidence in court, judges of her that evidence, and judges have ruled, if you continue to contest an election, you're not just contesting an election anymore, you are actually challenging the constitution itself. you are challenging the societal norms that allow us to remain unified. i think one example, for example, you have vice president richard nixon back in 1960 had lost a hard-fought election against senator john f. kennedy.
there were irregularities in that vote according to a lot of the histories and a lot of vice president nixon's supporters asked him to fight, to contest it, don't concede. but in one of his finest moments, vice president nixon said no. he said it would tear the country to pieces and he conceded to jack kennedy and announced that he was going to support him as the next president. we have an example of a democratic candidate for president, vice president al gore who faced a very similar dilemma. he strongly disagreed with the supreme court decision that lost his election bid and allowed president george w. bush to take office, but he gave a speech of concession in late december, mid early december of 2000 where he said for the sake of the unity of us
as a people, for the strength of our democracy, i also i'm going to concede, i am going to support the new president. his speech is actually a pretty good model i think for any candidate, for any office up to and including the president and from any party to read, particularly right now. the oath that our presidents take is very similar to the oath of office that i took as a u.s. marine officer and you if i took as a white house official. it is to support and defend the constitution, it's to protect the constitution, to bear allegiance to the constitution, and it is a sacred oath. it is an oath we take before
our families, we take the oath before god, and i think -- we have and an obligation to live by that oath. i do still believe that we have the most ingenious system of government on earth despite its imperfections. i don't envy countries the don't have this system that actually allows for predictable, peaceful transfer of government every 4 to 8 years, and it's not something we should take for granted. >> thank you. as we heard at the start of the hearing, in the immediate aftermath of january six, republican leader kevin mccarthy under to that president trump for responsibility for that day and should've taken immediate action to stop the violence. it is even more candid in calls with republican colleagues. as you will hear in a moment, recordings of some of these calls that were later published by the new york times, the context for these calls was that a resolution had been introduced in the house calling for vice president pence and the cabinet to remove president
trump from power under the 25th amendment. let's listen. >> i've had with this guy. what he did was unacceptable. nobody can defend that and nobody should defend. the only discussion i had with him is that i think this will pass and will be my recommendation of that. that would be my take but i don't think he would take it, but i don't know. >> let me be very clear to all of, you and i'll be clear to the president, he bears responsibility for his words and actions. no ifs, ands, or buts. i asked him personally today, does he hold responsibility for what happened? does he feel bad about what happened? he told me he does have some responsibility for what happened. and he'd need to acknowledge that.
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publicly acknowledge his responsibility for the attack. the only time he did so wasn't that private call with kevin mccarthy. there's something else president trump has never acknowledged. the names and the memories of the officers who died following the attack on the capitol. we are honored to be joined tonight by police and first responders who bravely protected us on january 6th. your character and courage gave us hope that democracy can and should prevail. even in the face of a violent insurrection. we can never thank you enough for what you did to protect our democracy. on january 9th, two of trump's
campaign officials texted each other about the presidents glaring silence on the tragic death of capital police -- sicknick who succumb to his injuries the night of january 7th. his campaign officials -- matthew walking. their job was to convince people to vote for president trump. so they knew his heart, his mind, and his voice as well as anyone and they knew how he connects with his supporters. here's what they had to say about their boss. murtaugh said, we also shady to not have acknowledge the death of a police officer. walk-in responded, that's enraging to me, everything he said about supporting law enforcement was a lie. to which murtaugh replied, you know what this is? of course, if he acknowledged
the dead cop, he'd be implicitly faulting the mob, and he won't do that because they are his people. and he would also be close to acknowledging that what's he led at the rally got out of control. no way he acknowledges something that could ultimately called his fault. no way. president trump did not then, and does not now, have the character of courage to say to the american people what his own people know to be true. he is responsible for the attack on the capitol on january 6th. thank you, and i yield to the gentleman from illinois. >> thank you, miss luria. tonight's testimony and evidence is as sobering as it is straightforward. within minutes of stepping off the ellipse stage, donald trump knew about the violent attack on the capitol.
from the comfort of his dining room, he watched on tv as the attack escalated. he said -- sent tweets that inflamed and expressed support for the desire of some to literally kill vice president mike pence. for three hours, he refused to call off the attack. donald trump refused to take the urgent advice he received that day. not from his political opponents are from liberal media, but from his own family, his own friends, his own staff, and his own advisers. in the midst of an attack, when it was no time for politics,
the people closest to trump told him the truth, it was his supporters attacking the capitol, and he alone could get through to him. so they sent for him to act, to places country above himself. still, he refused to lead and to meet the moment and honor his oath. it was only once the vice president and members of congress were in secure locations and the officers defending the capitol starting to turn the tide that then president trump told the theater to go home. and then, he told them all that were special, and that he loved them. whatever your politics, whatever you still think about the outcome of the election, we as americans must agree on this. donald trump's conduct, on january 6th, was a supreme violation of his oath of office, and his complete dereliction of
his duty to our nation. it is a stain on our history. it is a dishonor to all of those who have sacrificed themselves and died in service of our democracy. we when we present our findings, we will recommend changes to laws and policies to guard against another january six. the reason it's imperative is that the forces donald trump ignited that day have not gone away. the militant, the intolerant ideologies, some militias, the alienation, the disaffection, the weird fantasies and disinformation. they're all still out there, ready to go. that is the elephant in the room. but if january 6th is reminding us of anything, i pray it has reminded us of this. laws are just words on paper, they mean nothing's to public servants dedicated to the rule
of law. and who are held accountable by a public that believes both matters, votes matter more than party tribalism than the cheap thrill scoring of political points. we must demand more politicians and ourselves. oaths matter. character matters. truth matters. if we do not renew our faith and commitment to these principles, this great experiment of ours, our shining beacon on the hill will not in your. i yield to the gentlewoman from virginia. >> thank you mr. kinzinger. throughout our hearings, we have provided many facts.
and painted a vivid picture of the events of january six. the violence, the human toll, both emotional and physical, including the tragic loss of life. the threats to our constitution, the rule of law, and the danger to this nation. a nation we all love as americans. and tonight's hearing, we've gone into great detail about the events inside the white house on january 6th. we describe how the president of the united states who was bound by oats to the constitution, and by duty to ensure the laws are faithfully executed, took no action when the cornerstone of our democracy, a peaceful transition of power, was under attack. but it's more than that. donald trump summit a violent mob and promised to lead that mob to the capitol to compel those he felt would cave to that kind of pressure. and when he was thwarted in his
effort to lead the uprising, he instigated the attackers to target the vice president with violence. a man who just wanted to do his constitutional duty. so in the end, this is not at as it may appear. and action -- a story of an action in a time of crisis. but instead, it was the final actions of donald trump's own plan to assert the will of the american people and remain in power. not until it was clear that his effort to disrupt or delay the counting of the election results had failed. did you send a message to his supporters were in which he commiserated with their pain, and tell them affectionately to go home. that was not the message of condemnation and just punishment for those who broke the law that we expect from a president whose oath and duty
is to ensure the laws are faithfully executed. but instead, it was his newest version of stand back and stand by. to me, this is personal. at first, sworn oath to support and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic, when they enter the u.s. naval academy at age 17. i spent two decades on ships at sea, defending our nation from known and identifiable foreign enemies who sought to do us harm. i would never imagined that enemy would come from within. i was not as pressure as abraham lincoln who 24 years before the civil war said, if destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and its finisher. donald trump was the author, and we the people, for ourselves and our posterity, should not let donald trump be the finisher. thank you, and i yield to the vice chair. >> thank you very much, mrs.
luria. i want to thank our witnesses for joining us today. the members of the select committee may have additional questions for today's witnesses, and we ask that you answer expeditiously to the writing of these questions. without objection, members will be provided ten business days to submit statements to the -- additional questions from our witnesses. i now like to turn things to chairman thompson for a few closing words. >> the members of the committee, and i, appreciate and thank all persons who have come forward voluntarily to provide information to help protect our democracy.
and our work continues as we made clear throughout these hearings our investigation is going forward. we continue to receive you information every day. we are pursuing additional witnesses for testimony. we will reconvene and september to continue laying out our findings to the american people, and pushing for accountability. in the first hearing of this series, i ask american people to consider the facts and judge for themselves. the facts are clear and unambiguous. i think the american people for their attention of the past several weeks. i wish you all a pleasant evening. >> let me again thank our witnesses today. we have seen bravery and honor in these hearings, and miss matthews, and mr. pottinger, both of you will be remembered for that.
as will cassidy hutchinson. she sat here, alone, took the oath, and testified before millions of americans. she knew all along that she would be attacked by president trump, and by the 50, 60, and 70 year old man who hide themselves behind executive privilege. but like our witnesses today, she has courage and she did it anyway. cassidy, sara, and our other witnesses, including officer caroline edwards, shea moss, and her mother ruby freeman, are an inspiration to american women, and to american girls. we owe a debt to all of those who have and will appear here. and that brings me to another point. this committee has shown you the testimony of dozens of republican witnesses. those who served president trump loyally throughout the years, the case against donald trump in these hearings is not made by witnesses who weren't as --
his political enemies. it is instead a series of confessions by donald trump's own appointees, his own friends, his own campaign officials, people who worked for him for years, and his own family. they have come forward and they have told the american people the truth. and for those of you who seem to think that the evidence would be different had republican mccarthy had not withdrawn his nominees from this committee, let me ask you this. do you really think bill barr is such a delicate flower that he would wilt under cross examination? pat cipollone, eric herschmann, jeff rosen, richard donahue, of course they aren't.
none of our witnesses are. at one point and 2016, when he was first running for office, donald trump said this, i can stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody, and i wouldn't lose and voters. that quote came to my last week when audio from trump advisor steve bannon surfaced from october 31st, 2020. just a few days before the presidential election. let us listen >> what trump is going to do is declare victory. he will declare victory. that doesn't mean he's a winner, he just has to say he's a winner. the democrats, more of our people vote early than count their's vote in the mail. and so they're going to have a natural disadvantage. and trump is going to take advantage of it -- he's gonna turn himself into a winner. so when you wake up wednesday morning, it's going to be a firestorm. also, if trump is losing by ten or 11:00 at night, it's going to be even crazier. because he's going to sit right there and say they stole it. and if biden's winning, trump is going to do some crazy stuff. >> and of course, four days
later, president trump declared victory when his own campaign advisers told him he had absolutely no basis to do so. but the new steve bannon audio demonstrates is that donald trump's plan to falsely claim victory in 2020, no matter what the facts actually were, was premeditated. perhaps wears, donald trump believed he could convinces voters to buy it, whether he had any actual evidence or fraud or not. and the same thing continue to occur from election day onwards until january 6th. donald trump was confident that he could convince his supporters the election was stolen, no matter how many lawsuits he lost. and he lost scores of them. he was told over and over again, and immense detail, that the election was not stolen. there was no evidence of widespread fraud. it didn't matter. donald trump was confident he
could persuade his supporters that they could believe anything he said no matter how outlandish and ultimately, that they could be summoned to washington to help him remain president for another term. as we showed you last week even trump's legal team, led by rudy giuliani, near, they had no actual evidence to demonstrate the evidence election was stolen. again, it didn't matter. here is the worst part, donald trump knows that millions of americans who supported him would stand up and defend our nation where it threatened. they would put their lives and -- to protect him. and he is praying on their patriotism. he is praying on their sense of justice. and on january six, donald trump turned their love of country into a weapon against our capitol and our constitution. he has purposely created the false impression that america is threatened by a foreign force controlling voting
machines. or that a wave of tens of millions of false ballots were secretly injected into our election system, or that ballot workers have secret dunn drives and are stealing elections from them. all complete nonsense. we must remember that we cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation. in late november of 20 twenties, when president trump was still pursuing lawsuits, many of us were urging him to put any genuine evidence of fraud forward in the courts. and to accept the outcome of these cases. as january 6th approached, i circulated a memo to my republican colleagues, explaining why outworks congressional proceedings to count electoral votes could not be used to change the outcome
of the election. but what i did not know at the time lies that president trump 's own advisers also republicans, also conservatives, including his white house counsel, his justice department, his campaign officials, they were all telling him almost exactly the same thing i was telling my colleagues, there was no evidence of fraud or irregularities sufficient to change the election outcome. our courts had ruled it was over. now, we know it did not matter what any of us said. because donald trump wasn't looking for the right answer legally, or the right answer factually. he was looking for a way to remain in office. let's put that aside for a moment and focus just on but we saw today. in our hearing tonight, you saw an american president has faced with the stark and unmistakable choice between right and wrong. there was no ambiguity, no nuance. donald trump made a purposeful choice to violate his oath of office. to ignore the ongoing violence against law enforcement to threaten our constitutional order. there was no way to excuse that behavior, it was indefensible.
and every american must consider this, can a president who is willing to make the choices donald trump made during the violence of january 6th ever be trusted if any position of authority in our great nation again? in this room, in 1918, the committee on women's suffrage convened to discuss and debate whether women should be granted the right to vote. this room is full of history. and we on this committee know, we have a solemn obligation not to idly squander what's so many americans have fought and died for. ronald reagan's great ally, margaret petrus at this, let it never be said that the dedication of those who love freedom is less than determination of those who would destroy it. that me assure everyone of you this, our committee understands the gravity of this moment, so
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