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administration. and the gop is not happy. but is he worried? plus, speaker pelosi's controversial trip to taiwan. what's she hopes to accomplish while infuriating china. as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening once again, and here we go! i am stephanie ruhle and there is a big news on this big primary night. nbc news projects voters in the state of kansas have overwhelmingly voted to keep the protection of abortion rights in their state constitution. this was the first test of the right to choose at the polls since the supreme court ended roe v. wade. kansas is one of five states picking nominees for the november midterm elections, which is now just 98 days away. and the polls have now officially closed in all five states. also on the ballot tonight, the former president and his falsehoods about election
fraud. he is backing several republican candidates who are outright 2020 election deniers. who fully enjoys the big lie,, that donald trump should somehow still be presidents. again, that is a lie. let's get right to, it you know who i'm talking about. steve kornacki, back at the big board. steve, where do things stand right now? >> yeah we'll stephanie, you said the biggest toy so far of the night clearly, this one kansas, this referendum, constitutional amendments. that would stay the constitution and the state of kansas. does not provide for the right to abortion. goes down to defeat, goes down to defeat as you say, overwhelmingly. this is a tremendous surprise whatsapp and here. a lot of people did not see the fact of no winning, nor the magnitude of it. i think it's gonna be a political significant repercussions from this result. also the potential here, in terms of you see where the no votes, a lot of energy in the suburbs of kansas city. democrats have been saying hey, that is the area that there is the kind of voters who are
gonna turnout in november two, for democrats. we will see if that happens. but this is the biggest headline of the hour. certainly, also by, now playing out is a very close house race in western michigan. in a very significant one to. it's a third congressional district here. now more than 60% of the vote is. and peter meijer is a freshman republican congressman who won of his first foes as a member of congress was to impeach, the vote to impeach donald trump, following january six. he is drawn a trump backed challenger, mike gibbs, excuse me, john gibbs, and mayer has taken the lead. meyer was widely considered the underdog coming into this race today. meyer has just taken the lead. most of the remaining vote is in kent county, grand rapids, that is meyer's political base. absolutely he has a chance to pull this thing out. that would be significant, we have seen a lot of house republicans of those ten house republicans who voted to impeach trump. a lot of them retired, one of them was defeated in a primary. one of them did get through a
primary, but trump didn't have anything to do with that primary. this would be the first time if he wins, it would be the first time you have a house republican who voted to impeach trump, actually survive a primary where trump edgewise arrival. that is a huge fight. now but meijer in the game that in of itself is a big surprise. as you mentioned, you come on the, air just as the numbers start to come in in arizona. what we are waiting on here, let's see, here starts with the governor's base, we got one tiny county reporting just a scattering of those. oh! we just got boats, here it is. this is huge! okay. what's happened, this is how it works in arizona. maricopa county where phoenix, is the phoenix suburbs, by far the biggest county in the state. about 55 to 60% of all the votes in the republican primary in arizona are gonna come out of this one county. maricopa county if maricopa does this, within millet it's of poll close, you saw it here,
they released hundreds of thousands of votes here. and you can see what they just released. karen taylor robeson leads carry lake. 50 to 40%. with this giant batch of votes that just came in from maricopa county. what are these votes? here is how it works and maricopa county. there is extensive mail voting, early voting, in arizona. every ballot that was received by yesterday's but maricopa said it would release within minutes of poll closing. so i believe we are getting all the votes that were casted through yesterday. now what is going to happen through the next few hours in maricopa county is we are gonna get people who showed up in person to vote today, those votes are gonna get at it in as well. and then it's probably not gonna be for a couple of days, the boats that were delivered, that arrived today, that were delivered excuse me, and arrive today at polling places will
come last. but what this adds up, to let me just show, you statewide here, again, because maricopa county is such a big part of this equation right here. kevin taylor robeson right now, again every county is probably doing what's maricopa does. all those votes that i come in by yesterday or so, are all being released and one batch here. and you are seeing carrie lake trail. you take a look here. >> can i jump in. what can you tell us about taylor robeson? carrie lake is a lot more people know, hard-core election denier. we have even hurt in the last few days if she doesn't like the results she won't be accepting them. but taylor robson, what do we know about her? >> she is running with the doug doocy the outgoing governor. she has been a political consultants and also been running with the endorsement very notably of mike pence. mike pence the former vice president's come in and done rallies for her. so there have been a bit of a campaign here from some republicans, nationally, some
republican voices i should say, nationally, who are trying to say hey, maybe lake was a step too far, maybe taylor robeson would be more electable here. again, the thing i want to caution with this here, is this. taylor robson, this is a good development for her to be in the league right now. if blake jumps out into the league and carry maricopa county. if like jumped up into the lead statewide, i think it would be hard to see her losing. so taylor robeson is getting what you want right now in terms of these results. i want you to think back to the 2020 election in arizona if you can. because remember how that one played out. it was days long to get all the results in. the upshot of it was, biden jumped out to his biggest lead right away on election night in arizona back in 2020. and the votes that were counted up as the week went on where much more trump friendly. and so if that pattern holds here, there is still gonna be, this process is probably gonna take a couple of days, or at
least a day, in arizona, to play out. the more trump friendly boats are the later votes, that would look so translate potentially at the later votes being the carry lake votes. so there could be room here for lake to grow, there could be room for taylor robson to fall here a little bit. but this certainly, initially, when you see maricopa county come in as ten points for taylor robson over lake. like wanted to be winning at this batch of votes. because she was winning in this batch of votes, it would be game over. instead, taylor robson gets a ten-point path here. from this big giant batch that maricopa reports out early. again, we are seeing that, take a look at some of these other counties here. this is campanile county, this is where flagstaff us, a lot of these are geographic big but they are not that big in terms of population. but giving a quick look here. at the other counties that are reporting out some of those results right now. and what it adds up to, is it was odd that statewide that looks like maricopa was also far. this is about half the votes in
arizona. taylor robson with the advantage over like. let me see by the way those other statewide races that we have been talking about. same early votes counted up. okay, here in the senate race, blake masters jumps out, the trump endorsed candidate in the senate race. he jumps out to an early lead here. it's five points over jim layman, who has really run as, try to run as just a trump candidate as masters. he just didn't get the trump endorsement in this race. brnovich, the attorney general, who earned trump's ire during the 2020 election running in third place right here. we can also take a look quick look at secretary of state race. this is attracted a lot of attention. then jim, trump endorsed candidate here, leading in this race. again, question has been, finchem it is, finchem, masters, and carry like, do they all win their primaries here? noticeable, notable i believe, the difference, here carey lake running about nine points
behind taylor robeson as this big early batch of votes get counted up. can't be like running behind whereas masters is running ahead. close but running ahead with that same group of votes. there is a bit of a disconnect between the two of them there. that is interesting. but this is the way it goes in arizona. we get just this massive, massive batch of votes from all of these counties. just after 11:00 eastern. and it's going to slow down. once you get that initial batch from -- a big one to come in by the. white pima county, second biggest in the state where tucson is, let's look to see where that lights up. that will add a little bit more clarity. once you get these initial batches in arizona from all of these counties, we will get some more as the night progresses, that'll be votes that were casted in person today. and again i think it's way tomorrow there's gonna be a pause there, and you are gonna get more ballots released tomorrow. maybe in the next coming days after that. depending on how close this is, again it's a process that may not wrap up tonight.
but i think just looking at the early, initial votes that we get right here, that is very good news for karen taylor robeson, and that's a concerning early number for carey lake. because carrie leakey just given the lead that she had in the polls, if you look at maricopa county, where 60% of the vote and this republican primary is gonna come from, if that initial batch had lake ahead, he would say hey, she's not gonna look back. now she's gotta make up some ground. this is an interesting twist that was a thrown at us here. by this big initial batch of votes that are maricopa county. >> as long as we are thinking back to arizona, election night, 2020, even though there was a lot of developments, things changed over time, despite what's seems like countless audits in cyber neighbor cyber ninjas efforts. biden so. want steve, don't go far, away country those. numbers i want to bring off our little time. former senator msnbc political analyst, claire mccaskill, -- pulitzer prize-winning depp -- for the washington post.
tim miller, a contributor to the bulwark and former communication director project blush. he was the new book, why we did it. and jeremy bash, former steve us chap at the cia and the pentagon. he joins us at -- and he's even wearing kornacki khakis. thrilled about that. clare, i have a feeling you are wearing your movie slippers when it comes to talking candace tonight. what is your reaction? >> i wish i had some ruby slippers by. now i was raised in missouri and toss that kansas was not a great place. but i don't feel that way tonight. something extraordinary happened, stephanie. this was not expected to be this kind of result. they had a record turnout. what this shows in a state where republican registrations outnumbered democrats to the one that women are really upset that a fundamental rights and freedom has been taken from them.
and i think it is going to be a very motivating issue, and i think there should be a big flashing signal to every democratic candidate out there. especially in states where they have done these very extreme things. like no exceptions for rape or incest. and even in states where they just banned them after anytime after six weeks. this really needs to be a motivating issue in these midterms. i think it could really make a difference. >> phil, pre-roe v. wade when we looked at the midterms, it seemed like it could be devastating for democrats. the number one issue for american voters was the economy, it was inflation, inflation, inflation. after looking at tonight, is that going to change? is this a moment, as clare pointed, out for democrats, to push on what matters to americans, and that is reproductive rights. >> steph, it certainly could be a clarifying moment. for voters around the country. because the first electoral test that we've had of abortion
since is a prime court stopped decision. senator mccaskill pointed out that so many of women wear at gray and came out to vote. but i bet a lot of women of men came out to vote in kansas to, and you may see that in november when you look at places where democrats are running hard on this issue. michigan for example governor gretchen whitmer would seem to have been in danger in her bid for reelection may end up running strong. she has really embraced this abortion issue as a galvanizing force for voters there. you are saying that in a lot of these key battleground states around the country heading into the fall. >> tim i know it's still early but what's did tonight results tell you about trump's political influence? because it's kind of different things in different states. >> look, have been there some things that we need to be encouraged about. right now in michigan, if peter meijer was one of the ten republicans voted to impeach trump, he is running neck and neck and his race. he is up just a hair right now. so we will see how that turns
out. but that is encouraging. i think another thing we are seeing here in a lot of these states, i've it shows the ultra maga and kind of the maga lights. the maga lights aren't exactly a profile in courage. you've got this karen taylor robeson, we're talking about tonight in arizona. she wouldn't say, she says they're still seeing some funny business and the election, and won't speak for truth about what happens. eric schmidt, who senator mccaskill sure knows more about was spearheaded the lawsuit to overturn the 2020 elections. none of these folks are exactly doing anything mirror in the ballpark of what my or liz cheney is doing. but it is interesting that in the case of schmidt, i out in the case of ropes, and the extremely bat, you know what insane were publicans. who are running to challenge them and erik got in and carry like in arizona. carry like for one example, has been probably pretending or she has some psychotic break at
some points. interference. but she has been a lunatic. running -- has been on this running on how we need to arrest people over the last election. she's calling joe biden a legitimate. she has been really gilding the lily on all of these could spaces. it would be interesting if arizona republicans look at her and said, and, that's a step too far for us. because we haven't seen a lot of those encouraging signs. so this is not to say that robeson or schmidt deserve any praise for what they have done, but it's noteworthy that the most extreme candidates are not having a great night on the republican side tonight. and wall donald trump endorsed eric we don't know who it was don jr. or kimberly who endorsed greitens, and that nikki was endorsed by josh hawley and she is absolutely nowhere. jeremy besides what we are seeing in the polls tonight, we cannot ignore the investigation into january six. more text messages deleted.
this time trump officials including the defense secretary. at this point, can any sane person say, this was all standard operating procedure? people from the department of homeland security, the secret service in the pentagon just delete its messages on maybe one of the most important security breaches in our country? >> certainly not at the department of defense, and certainly not with respect to dhs. perhaps the i-career secret service officials but this merits more than investigation. i think the january six is going to get emboldened by these deleted messages, and it comes across a back backdrop for a pretty good week from joe biden. he killed the world's number one terrorist. to get the chips bill backed. a big important bill for veterans passed. to get this bill gonna talk about later in the show, with
joe manchin and chore chuck schumer on tax cuts and climate. he also navigated this crisis financing pelosi in china. this is a huge week for the president and a pretty big setback for the former president. >> and remember, a lot of these achievements that you were talking about were done on a bipartisan basis. people are wrapping at joe biden in the last year when he called himself bipartisan joe. you want to talk gun safety and, other things, is done by prior partisan. clare there's also reporting that donald trump jr. was interviewed by the new york attorney general last week. i want you to put on your attorney hat. how much legal jeopardy is the family and with regards that civil case. this is where the whole family was supposed to be deposed a few weeks ago. that was delayed because of the passing of ivanka vanna trump, and donald trump jr. was asked some questions? >> i don't really understand
why -- i know they delayed the trump family, and giving any information or talking to in the discovery process, giving depositions, but this needs to move along folks, both with the doj and the state of new york. they've either got their evidence at this point, especially documentary evidence in the civil case. this matter that they're lying about their net worth, playing games with charities in taxes and all of that. it's time to put the pedal to the metal and reach some conclusions on the stuff, because trump is still huge in this election. let's not make any mistake and dilute ourselves that the january six committee hearings have changed the way a lot of americans feel about this guy. i've watched these grown men gravel from scraps to try to get some sort of approval from
donald trump in the senate race. >> senator clermont carrasco phil rucker and thank you all i do want to talk about speaker pelosi's trip to taiwan. it took a few more days than expected, but the senate has finally passed the pac act. that is the measure that provides millions of veterans with expanded access to health care and benefits. this time with plenty of help from john stewart the measure passed 86 to 11. the measure now goes to president biden's desk for his signature and i'm quite sure he will sign it. when we come back we'll have more on primary night election coverage. we have a big night, stick around. tick around health, and wellness, and fitness... i tried everything with diet and exercise, and nothing worked. there was just kinda this stubborn area on my stomach. but coolsculpting worked for me!
wade, the department of justice is looking to protect the right to choose. today, it's sued the state of idaho over its restrictive abortion law and in kansas the issue was right there on the ballot, and voters turnout in a big, big way to reject a state constitutional amendment it could've restricted abortion access. msnbc anchor and senior national correspondent my dear friend chris johnson joins us from nearby kansas city, missouri. chris, you've been there all day covering these primaries. i just read the kansas secretary of state just said a few minutes ago talking turned out -- it is looking a lot like the 2008 turnout for the obama presidential race, incredibly high. obama presidential race compared to today? august 2nd in kansas for a primary? >> it is very wild stephanie. absolutely no one predicted this. earlier today when we started to see long lines, a recent
number being bandied about, maybe 36%. the secretary of state said it's looking like it's going to push 50%. as you said first term obama numbers. what happened here? a lot of people thought, and particularly people who are on the abortion rights side, that the other side tried to bury this in the heat of august when people don't turn out and they thought they could push this through. obviously, they turned out to be wrong. a couple of key factors i think that are going to be seen over the next couple of days. one, unaffiliated voters. we of already seen the trend. this is a very red state but, we've seen a trend away from the republican party, their numbers down a bit, unaffiliated voters up. unaffiliated voters almost never turnout for primary because they can't vote for candidates if you're not registered as a democrat or republican. but this got so much attention, and that's the other part of this puzzle stephanie.
$12 million poured into this race on television ads. $12 million in a state where there are fewer than 2 million registered voters, and so you couldn't turn on your television without seeing these ads and it all got to be very confusing for people because of the way it was worded. that more money was being spent. people were developing campaigns to explain to people exactly how this was working. and so, in the end i think what we saw was a huge victory for folks who said, we are not going to give up our abortion rights in this state. i just got a statement from the major players on the anti-abortion side and they said this is a huge disappointment stuff. >> christensen, thank you so much live from kansas city appreciate it. coming up, we're gonna head up go back to the big board with you know who, steve kornacki, and then this and a senator in
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large out-of-state corporations have set their sights on california. they've written prop 27, to allow online sports betting. they tell us it will fund programs for the homeless. but read prop 27's fine print. 90% of profits go to out-of-state corporations, leaving almost nothing for the homeless. no real jobs are created here. but the promise between our state and our sovereign tribes would be broken forever. these out-of-state corporations don't care about california. but we do. >> we are watching some very stand with us. interesting returns coming in from arizona at this hour. let's head back to steve kornacki at the big board. what do you know steve? >> yeah stephanie, again this is the way that it works there in arizona. an explosion of result in that first 2030 minutes or so after 11 pm eastern time. and you can see about 60% now
of all the votes in this republican gubernatorial primary has been counted up and released. you can see karen taylor robeson with the lead over kari lake it's about a half point just a half couple minutes. we have a big chunk of pima county where tucson's, second biggest county in the state, again karrin taylor robson with the advantage they're up double digits. a few more days are big geographically but not gonna be huge in terms of population and those. there's gonna be some more votes from these counties that are reported out tonight. what's gonna happen is that over the next couple of hours they are going to report out those that were casted in person today. but it's also going to turn, spillover into tomorrow. the ballots that were dropped out by people today have to be processed, have to be validated, signature verified, and won't be counted, released, until tomorrow, maybe later. it can take days and i was on a. but i think the bottom nice and trying to understand this race is taylor robson was expected
to do better with this initial votes than the ones that are gonna be later pointed out. so she needed in this initial batch to get a path over carry lake. she has done that. now we are gonna find out, is that pad big enough to withstand the remaining votes to be counted? the other marquee race there in arizona, you can see the republican senate race. this is for the right to run against mark kelly, the democratic senator. this is a big batch of early votes, you can see here, the trump backed candidate, like masters, it's slightly but does have a late with that early vote. again, if those trump papered candidates are doing better with the votes that is yet to be counted. that is a notable difference. carrie lake is down nine points in that unusual batch of votes. she is backed by trump, down by nine points. masters is up backed by trump and he is up. he is sitting at a much better position now than terry lake's. there is that secretary of
state primary there, under the republican trump backed candidate. with that initial batch of votes already ahead by eight points there. so i think the biden line is, two of those three trump backed candidates are probably encouraged by this early batch of votes. kari lake has gotten more today. some folks were saying the polls had are well ahead. they did, there was one light poll that show that this might be tightening. and this does look like a tight race, or ropes and has a real chance potentially, to end up winning this. >> right now, my dad is watching, saying both for like maybe drying up. dad joke. steve kornacki thank you. there is another vote can't wear keeping a very close eye on tonight. it's a number of those senate democrats need on that huge tax reform and climate agreements that was pulled together by truck schumer and joe manchin. well i had a chance to speak with senator manchin shortly after he had a very critical conversation this afternoon. take a look. >> i know how busy you have been on this reconciliation
plan. but you need one more democratic votes. senator kyrsten sinema, i know you are scheduled to speak with her today, is she on board? >> well we did have a nice conversation. we are exchanging papers back and forth to make sure that we understand everything. she understands where we are coming from. she is always, she is a, friend and she has always done her due diligence. she will look at all of this and make our own decision. i am hopefully that there is a lot of good things and, there and she has worked very hard over the past on a lot of the issues that we are talking about. so we just have to see how it goes. we are talking. >> well when you spoke with her, is there anything standing in the way? carried interest for example, is that something she is willing to work with you on? this is something we have heard from democrats and republicans for years that they want to close this loophole. but yet it's still hanging out there. >> now even the people that receive it thought well run this course, it's been a good run. the other thing that i talk
about with carried interest, you know about it more than anybody stephanie, it's based on capital gains rates. if you don't have any capital, at, all in the game, how are you getting the same reduced rates? since you have nothing to risk. except your services that you are performing for a fee. doesn't make any sense at all. how that, it is unseen because of our system. so with that, over the years, they said enough is enough, and even the people that have received at said i think the state has come. it's been a good run. so we are hopeful that that will stay there and just puts the fare of us and if someone can explain it better to me of why it has to be there, who is gonna be harmed, if it's not there, i'm happy to hear them. but i haven't heard that yet and maybe you have, maybe you can explain it to me. >> that's actually my question, sir, because for the last five years, i have asked for any lawmaker, any private equity industry expert to come on the show and explain to me, why that is an important provision.
no one has ever said yes. so can i ask you behind closed doors, what do lawmakers tell you why they need to have that in our tax bell? >> i can't, i'm not getting, i'm having a hard time getting those answers also. i just can't get a direct answer. as i please tell, me i wouldn't harm anything and i'm not punishing anybody. but if it's one tenth of the richest wealthiest people in the world that are taking this, i think that is trying to put the fairness forward. we need to have a strong country. we have to have a strong tax code that his father services. and i'm just thinking, we are 15% minimum is the same thing. it went from 35 to 21 on that corporate taxes. stephanie, and i thought that was a tremendous win for us. i think that would stop at 25, but people are very happy and ecstatic. and then i guess it wasn't enough. but on the carried interest, it makes no sense to me whatsoever.
i am willing to hear those explanations, and i'm sure i will, and i'm sure i'm gonna exchange paper back and forth and see where it goes. >> what does exchange powers back and forth maine? either kyrsten sinema will go with this with, you or she won't. >> that i don't. no i she has some legitimate -- we haven't had the chance to really get into it. and we have been trying. too because all that is our right now except for the accelerated permitting. we believe it's actually key, linchpin to hope whole piece of legislation. >> you did block build back better only fears that it would worsen inflation. much of the ire of other democrats. and now here you are with the reconciliation plan, and republicans are furious with you. they want to go after your seats. come next election. are you prepared for that? >> they've always gone after my seat. that's never prevented them before. and you know what? it's still my, those are my friends. i understand, i understand this
process. i don't begrudge people. i understand it's like senator mcconnell says, joe, it's a shirts and skins game. well i don't really i don't approach that way. i push it basically as a all unity game. we are all in it for our country. i'm not worried, the best politics is good governments. if the republicans have a good idea, i vote for it. i don't question it. it makes sense to me, i can go home and explain it. and that the democrats have a bad idea. i don't mind at all voting against it. cause i can't explain it. but if it's a good idea, i don't care whether it's democratic or republican. let's support it because it's good for our country. this is a red white and blue duo. we keep saying, what's the democrats, it's gonna help the democrats for the 2022 election. or 2024, this and that. that's not my purpose at all. i don't think at all that should be in the equation. >> and then on the. other >> hand stephanie, i know that we are where you're going with. this but on the other hand, they are gonna say, well this
is a green bell. this is a green bill. this is not a great deal. we have the pathway, aggressive energy, from fossil, and going to get cleaner using all the new technologies, replacing the dirty fuels around the world. that is the decarbonization. so this is a red white and blue. this is a good piece of legislation. >> well then, what are republican saying to you behind closed doors? because publicly, quite a few have said that you double cross that. mitchell connell has said something that you speak to with on a regular basis. have you spoken to him since you presented this bill? >> i have and just this past, said i shook his hand, i'm happy to sit down and speak to him. they all know, i said guys, you know i'm not from any type of big legislation. never have been. this is a time we can't do that. but i can tell you one thing, if i can get a negotiation on an energy package, that gives us the energy that we need for today. and if i can get it permitting accelerating permitting which is what you've always wanted,
and i've always thought was needed. and we can pay down debts. and i'm gonna walk away from something like that? then i'm here from the wrong reasons. you don't need me if you just want someone to says, the democrats are for this, the democrats are against, it or the republicans are for it, or the republicans are against it. that is not who i am. stephanie, and i think that they all know that. they might be disappointed because they are afraid that this could be a good piece of legislation. they ought to embrace it. the same way that they embrace the bipartisan infrastructure deal. the same way that they embraced the mental illness for the gun battle. the things that we have been able to do and the bipartisan way. those are all good politics because it's good government. this is good politics and it's good government. take credit for it. all the sudden there are things that they've always thought it. >> then are you trying to convince any republicans to vote yes for this? kirsten sinema is the obvious votes, but maybe there is
somebody else out there that you can convince? >> i'm sure, i would love for that. no no, i'm saying i talk to all of, them they are all my friends they really are, but i knew from day one that they want -- to >> as a matter who is your friend. let's be honest, it doesn't matter who is your friend, you need to get the votes. besides kyrsten sinema, mitch mcconnell, -- >> i can't i cannot get their vote because they won't change a penny of the tax code. if they believe that 15% should not be the minimum, and corporations should pay anything in america, the largest have a billion dollars a revenue a year, and will pay anything, i can't convince them to change that. but i know that. i don't agree, i respect their decision. i don't agree with a decision, i think it's wrong. but i'm not going to tacitus them over that. so i know that i could not do that. i cannot get him there because basically, there is a fairness to the system, we didn't raise taxes, we didn't do anything. we just close loopholes. carried interest, that even said, that we talked about it
before. all of a sudden, it comes down to i'm not changing an opinion attack space. if that's our position, i accept that. this is what i have to work with and this is the best piece of legislation, it's absolutely the most balanced piece that we could possibly get stuff in. >> all right, senator, thank you for your time, before you go, what do you think the likelihood is this thing is going to pass? if you had to play odds? 50%, 75, 90? >> oh i think that we are in a good trajectory to get this done. i really do, i just think we all have to come together. and look at it. when care, sent my friend harrison is able to see everything, she will make a decision. if she has some concerns, she will reach out and tell me. we will just continue to talk. we always do that. but the bottom line is, the people, a lot of people were mid-because it -- they didn't know about. it i'll say this stephanie, i didn't want to disappoint people again to get up or down, and the emotions, and the drama. and everybody gets upset. they were mad. you think i would go through this again because i like the
first eight months that i went through? i went basically, i never gave up. i thought that there was a pathway forward. and watching what putin has done to ukraine, and watching how he has weaponized energy? to thrust the sit here and watch now what he is doing to europe? -- the dow closed on energy they no need. we are sitting down and we can be helping? and willing to get up and running as possibly we can as to help them? and that's just so wrong. that's what motivated me to continue to find a pathway forward. >> well west virginia senator joe manchin, thank you for taking time to join us. coming up, china saber-rattling gets louder as speaker pelosi meets with taiwan's president. a look at all that is at stake when the 11th hour continues. 1th hour continues you're a target for chronic kidney disease. you can already have it and not know it. if you have chronic kidney disease
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steve kornacki at the big board. steve, i know you've been following a couple of races specifically incumbent republicans who voted to impeach trump. how are they doing? >> three burr publicans who voted to impeach trump on the ballot in primaries today. there is the one we've been following those closely tonight. grand rapids peter meijer republican, one of his first votes to impeach trump. he's now fallen behind. he had pulled ahead last time we checked, he's now fallen
behind by 900 votes to donald gives a trump backed challenger. here is the problem for my or if we zoom into this district. there are three counties parts of three counties that make up this district. the biggest is meyer space, that's grand rapids, meyers doing well in that county that part of the districts, what's keeping him afloat. the problem is this. if you break down the vote right now, when you look at the absentee vote, the vote by mail portion, by far the biggest part of the district can't county, mayer is winning the mail vote by 21 points. he is losing the same day vote by 11. that same day vote as come in its moved gibbs back into the league. although i just saw a few more votes came in its meyer friendly, so the margin is down to 572 votes. very close here. the problem for meyer, same day
is running much worse than absentee. looks like they're gonna hurt him. we'll see what happens that final 25%. we want to check in with two other republicans washington state. they do what they call a top two primaries so all the candidates, democrat republican around the same ballot. and advance to the general election. key here is this is jamie herrera butler, this is a democrat running in first place, this is joe can't the trump backed republican in this race. this is probably all the votes we're gonna get in washington. it takes ten days to vote count. but jamie herrera butler the key for her is to finish in the top, to which she is right now. she's running ahead by about 5000 votes over the trump backed challenger, so that's encouraging numbers for jamie herrera beutler. here's the fourth district. jamie new house voted to
impeach trump another republican. he's running in first, to the democratic candidates running in second. this is lauren colp the trump backed candidate running in third, significantly bind new house. so new has as to be very happy initially with this result. my are in trouble there in michigan. these two republicans in washington state initially encouraging numbers for them stephanie. >> steve kornacki thank you. just before 11 eastern this morning, the speaker of the host suspect onto the tarmac in taiwan. and just a while ago, she met with taiwan's parliament and president. all part of a visit that is inflame tensions with the chinese who reportedly flew fighter jets over the taiwan straight just before her arrival. so why she? they're in an op-ed to the washington post, pelosi accuse china of quote accelerating aggression against taiwan readiness. our congressional delegations visit should be seen as an
unequivocal unequivocal statement that america says with taiwan, our democratic partner stands by itself and its freedom. educators, why is this so significant? >> because the context in the last year or two china has been acting more aggressively towards taiwan, flying airplane, sending naval ships, trying to threaten that island and basically saying don't assert your independents. so a coequal branch of the united states under article one of the leader of our legislative branch, the speaker of the house to go there and sit with the leadership of taiwan sent a very unstable mistake-able symbol that the united states is back in taiwan. >> how about the symbol? earlier today, mitch mcconnell of all people said that he supports his trip. >> i think it was a bipartisan show of support for this trip. china is trying to challenge the united states assert itself. it has a very aggressive
military and diplomatic strategy around the world, and the united states on a bipartisan basis is standing up to china. i'm glad the speaker went there, she smart for going, they're smart for not backing down despite the criticism, and good for president biden for not asking her to stand. >> after the killing of a ayman as a robbery, i sure i'm saying his name wrong. he said the action was necessary because the presidents withdraw from afghanistan. well ayman al-zawahri was the world's most notorious terrorist. i think there is a question of whether al-qaeda will reassert itself in afghanistan with the taliban. they invited ayman al-zawahri in. but they do have an over the
horizon counterterrorism destructive ability. they struck with precision and they made america and the world safer. >> as you said, good week for the biden administration, good week for. america >> jeremy thank. it >> very busy night. and on that important note, i wish you all a very, very good night. my dear friend, not old friend and colleague ali velshi picks up her primary night college coverage right after a quick break. quick break. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]
velshi, this is msnbc special coverage of primary night in america. it is midnight on the east coast. polls are now closed in all five states that we are watching. arizona, kansas, missouri, michigan, and washington today. we are going right to state kornacki just a moment. to get the very latest numbers as votes are still being counted. but perhaps the most watched vote of the night happened in kansas where nbc news now projects that voters decided to protect the states rights to and abortion. this is a first date on abortion rights since the court overturned roe v. wade. in arizona, three trump endorsed election deniers are on the ballot. all three races, right now, too early to call. but that may change, while i am talking to you. in michigan trump endorsed candidate tutor dixon, is the projected winner of the republican primary for governor. dixon will run against the incugr