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us. that is it for all in on this tuesday night. msnbc prime starts right now. with my friend ali velshi. to run into you in real life again. well see you tomorrow. >> thanks, ali. thank you fornk joining us this hour. in normal times, this is not what you expect to see emblazonened across the front page of the new york times. a headline in all caps that a former president's home was just searched by the fbi in south florida. normal went out the window a long time ago. the times adds the focus is on white house files, sign that inquiries are widening. here is "the washington post." sub headline, quote, unusual move ordered by court. handling of classified papers
under scrutiny. the past 24 hours have been a doozy. it was yesterday evening when thedo former president, donald trump, put out a rambling, chest pounding, feet stomping statement announcing to the world that the fbi had raided his words his florida home. so-called law and order president called it a witch hunt and gave a shoutout to hillary clinton about her emails. he cldid, however, let the worl know a fascinating detail that the fbi got into his safe as part of their search. so let's take a step back now. it's been 24 hours. acknowledge the seriousness of what happened yesterday. justice department officials didn't just wake up yesterday and usdecide, hey, let's send se federal agents to search the immediate past president's home because we think a crime was committed there. what this hour's long search on trump's homeur means is that la enforcement had to convince a federal judge that there was probable cause that a crime was committed there. federal prosecutors had to
present evidence. they had to make their case. they obviously succeeded in convincing a judge and able to obtain a search warrant they executed yesterday on trump's florida estate. we learned in february that the national archives retrieved 15 boxes ofie documents, some including highly classified and sensitive material from trump's mar-a-lago home. in the following months, we learned that the justice department was investigating the handling ofti that material and that investigation took a dramatic turn yesterday when federal agents were dressed in plains clothes so as not to garner tangs descended upon trump's florida home. nbc news reports the fbi notified trump's secret service detail before the search and showed agents a copy of the search warrant. to absolutely no one's surprise the fbi search warrant was met by republicans coming out, one by one, falling in line to
defend the former president while along with right wing media denouncing the federal search as a deep state plot to stop trump from running for office in 2024. we'll have much more on the bombastic responses from the right later in the show. but on the one hand it's shocking that fbi agents executed a search warrant on a former president's home, it's not particularly surprising. a trip downar memory lane. remember thesery blurry cell phe photos taken less than one month into donald trump's presidency. you can see trump sitting next to shinzo abe. in another, someone is shining a light over shinzo abe's shoulder over what appears to be documents. trump turned his florida club easter ras into a situation room. they were reacting in realtime to north korea launching a ballistic middle of a crowded
country club. this meeting inside the oval office, trump being chummy with russia's foreign minister and the russian ambassador. this is the meeting where trump barred u.s. press but allowed russian photographers to bring equipment inside then oval offe prompting a flurry of security concerns. but there's more. we soon learn trump divulged highly classified information to the russian officials, information that was soru sensitive that it was not even shared with u.s. allies. then there's trump's meetings with putin, one instance trump seized the notes from his interpreter n and instructing t interpreter not to discuss what transpired during the meeting with anyone. this is the same president that revealed the sensitive information of theed locations two nuclear submarines to the authoritarian leader of the philippines and tweeted out high resolution satelliteou photo of what is thought to be classified image of a fire at a rocket launch site in iran. he ignored repeated calls from
aides to stop using his personal cell phoneus despite reporting that foreign spies would listen in from time to time. we first heard reports trump had a habit of ripping up notes in 2018. this is not a one-off. he did this, including ripping up sensitive memos despite repeated m warnings from two chiefs of staff and the white house counsel. trump did this so often that staffers put s the ripped up papers into burn bags to destroy them. he also reportedly had a habit of flushing documents down the toilet. all of those instances took place while trump was president. nowe it's an entirely differen matter to have a former office holder potentially compromising national security material. given that, perhaps not really all that surprising that the justice department has ramped up its investigation into donald io trump's removal of documents from the white house by taking the aggressive action of executing a search warrant on theg former president's home. but i got questions. remember thatt boxes of documes
wereof eventually retrieved fro trump's estate. so why would a federal magistrate, a judge in west palm beach, sign off on a search warrant? what elserc did they think was being held by trump? we know that the judge agreed with the doj there was probable cause of a potential crime. what's the crime exactly? cnn reported that federal officialsn visited trump's pal beach home insi june to discuss those materials, including some potentially classified materials that were found there. according to multiple outlets, one of those justice department officials who is a counterintelligence official,o visited trump's home and met with two of his lawyers in the spring.s tonight, "the wall street journal" is one of the first to report that federal agents executed that search warrant in part because theyse were concerd that classified materials remained at c mar-a-lago after boxes had been retrieved earlier this year. "the washington post" also has new reporting on the search warrant tonight. here is the lead, quote, in the
months beforeot the fbi's dramac move to execute a search warrant at former president's donald trump's florida home, federal authorities grew increasingly concerned that trump or his lawyers andmp aides had not, in fact, returned all the documents and other material that were government property. officials became suspicious that when trump gave back items to the national g archives about seven months ago either the former president or people close to him held on to key records. trump's lawyer christina bob confirms tonight to nbc news that federal agents took roughly a dozen boxes from mar-a-lago yesterday. now this is in addition to the 15 boxes they recovered in es january. "the new york times" reports this y justice department investigation into trump's handling of the alleged classified documents is separate from the department's january 6th inquiry. so we certainly have an awful lot to unpack.to joining us now is the perfect person to go to, katie bener, covers the justice department for the new york cotimes.
katie, good to see you.d thank you for being with us today. i tried to sort of lay it out. it's a bit confusing because there's the mechanics of the search warrant and then there's the what are they looking for and what do they think the crime is. to the best of your knowledge at this point, what are the answers to their questions? >> sure. so at this point the search warrant wasth for documents related to the national archives matter. and really nothing more. now, that said, we have spoken to manyid experts that say if i obtaining information from mar-a-lago, investigators find items or documents or anything else that couldem pertain to otr investigations, they're allowed to use that information. however, in terms of actual search warrant, they're to execute based on the probable cause laid out by the judge. this is the issue of whether or not trump returned all the um documents he should have to the national archive. interestingly the person who has the answerin to this question o what is taken from mar-a-lago is donald trump himself.
when federal agents executed a search warrant and takes items from somebody's property they leave an inventory of what they have taken. >>ve so this has always been a tricky one. how to know what should be with the archives and shouldn't have stayed with trump, right? have we always known what we wereal looking for here? because there were those 15 boxes that were taken out in january. now there's 12 more boxes. does somebody have a list of this is the stuff i need and it's not where it'sf supposed be and important to either national security or the january 6th investigation or just isn't supposed to be with donald trump? >> so, initially the national archives they felt they were not getting everything they should have from the trump white house after he left the residence. you know, they're doing an archival project. they can tell when documents are discussed in emails and in other ways they're cross referencing documents. they heard about document. they knew there were some materials they weren't getting and they asked for those ey documents. that is when they received the
15 boxes at the beginning of this year. now what is interesting is that the archives did -- was not confident that donald trump had given themt absolutely everything. and you see in their communications with congress in february that the national archives said we have asked donald trump to please turn over anything more that he may or may not find. so they were not confident those 15 boxes were the last word. and they also notified the justice department at that time andic said, of what we have obtained of h these 15 boxes weo see there's classified material here. you might want to investigate and understandnt because mishandling of classified information can be criminally charged. so c the justice department the began to look into it. >> now yoube reported today tha the fbi's search of mar-a-lago is not related to the justice department's probe of january 6th, that there are two separate matters. tell me again because you hinted at the beginning if they find something they're looking for, what's the overlap if there is any between what happened
yesterday and the department of justice separate investigation into january 6th? >> sure. j so far that we know there is no overlap. again, theyiso executed a sear warrant to obtain documents relatednt to whether or not dond trump had given back everything that he should have to the nationalld archives and whetherr not he had improperly handled classified information. there could be overlap in the future. again, itu say could because weo not know whether this would happen and itow may not happen. but there could be overlap in the future if in looking through the materials obtained the justice department finds any documents related to its other on going investigation or any documents that look like they point to criminal activity. w. earlier tonight the republican congressman scott perry of pennsylvania released a statement saying that the fbi had confiscated his cell phone. now wes heard a previous janua 6th hearing that congressman perry allegedly sought a pardon from donald trump after the capitol attack. is this -- are these matters related? is it just a coincidence that
the fbi got scott perry's cell phone or he talked about it today and the raid happened yesterday? related or unrelated as far as you snow? >> i would say they're not related per se. it's interesting because he wants to see themer related because we have seen the strong republican reaction to the trump -- the search warrant on mar-a-lago. we have seen republicans coalesce around donald trump, even those who had been sort a moving h away from him really i lock step move to defend him and show that he is the leader of the republican party. so politically it really behooved scott perry to say they are one in the same. t however, we know that e congressman perry is -- could have information that's important to other on going justice department investigations, particularly the plan into the fake elector scheme which was submitting alternate w slates of electors, falsely saying trump had won in key swing states as well as the investigation into jeffrey clark who was working with president trump to try to undo the
election and their liaison was congressman scott perry. >> katie, no one better than you to break this down. this is a complicated matter and we're grateful you took time to join us. katie bener, we appreciate it. i want to bring in andrew weissman, previously served as the former fbi general counsel and former senior counsel robert mueller's investigative team. good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> nice tok see you. always good to follow katie benner. >> she lays it out very well and henceut allows me to ask you fo your sort of top line reactions to everything we learned in the last 24 hours and last 13 minutes. and what you think prompted this -- the doj to execute and issue this search warrant. >> my intuition is that merrick garland was given information that there was national security information of such importance
and so sensitive and that he could not trust that donald trump would simply turn it back over tour the government, that they had to have information that it was still in mar-a-lago and given the national security concerns that's the kind of thing that i could see merrick garland andld lisa monaco and christopher wray andac frankly e entire intelligence community thinking is so important to the national security of the united states that it warrants this kind of step. that's my guts that that is th kind of thing that would warrant this kind of action. my other reaction is we should not be distracted by this search as stunning as it is and as unique as it is in american history, as katie alluded to, this is very separate from the january 6th investigation. and i think if there were to be charges against the former president, it's going to emanate from the january 6th
investigation. i could see merrick garland being fairly reluctant to bring a technical records act case. those are not often prosecuted. they are at times. but it seems like that would be the kind ofms thing that might t added g to a criminal case if o is made with respect to january 6th. but it's hard for me to see that that would be a stand alone criminal case. having said that we don't know what they're going to find in mar-a-lago. and you know, i could be totally wrong because they could find information that really makes it beyond the pale what the former president did and that criminal prosecution of some sort is warranted. >> so, help me out with this nonlaurie question because i know you prosecuted a lot of baddies in your time. people went into mar-a-lago and got these 15 boxes in january at which point the president and folks around him should have
been awarefo that someone is looking for documents that shouldn't have been at mar-a-lago. i can't believe there's 12 more boxes ofli stuff. i don't know that they were organized as 12 boxes. if there's bad incriminating stuff in your house and you know the department of justice is in your dehouse, why would there b more and bad incriminating stuff later? >> so, you know -- i used to say this when i was summing up to a jury when thesu defense lawyers would say, you know, why would the defendant do this? i would generally say to the jury, the defendant here is not accused of being smart. he's accused of committing a crime. and you know, a lot of defendants and certainly we havs seen this with the former president, have a lot of hubris. and think they're above the law and frankly in the former president's case, he has managed to dodge quite a few legal bullets in his life time. so, you could imagine him thinking, you know, i complied
enough but not completely. and so, again, i think time will tell but, you know, whatever his psychosis is that would lead him to not simply just comply with the law c and return government documents, it's pretty clear that government at least has evidence that, in erfact, he di not do that and they must have presented that evidence to a court which is why they got a search warrant. >> so this is another question where it's helpful given your experience at the fbi and the department of justice to help us understand this. there's some reporting today that in the spring a small team from the department of justice including the head of its counterintelligence and export control office went to mar-a-lago to meet with trump's lawyers about the documents that were taken to mar-a-lago. i don't know what any of that possibly could mean. do you? >> yeah. so, i know jay brad, a career
official in the national security division it seems to me that was by all accounts seems to be an effort to try to obtaiy from the former president the government documents, whether classified or not, they would belong to the government. your question about what is it that former officials allowed to take? the answer is nothing. when i left the government, the number of documents i took from my office was zero. that's because those are not personal documents. those are government documents. so, i think that effort in june with jay brad and his colleagues was an effort to see if all of the documents were being returned. and the thing that we don't know, but there must be evidence of that was presented to merrick garland ands to the court is tt they have information that, in fact, the former president did not return information and documents to the government. for this kind of action to have
been taken, the information has to be about seriously national security information that the justice department and the intelligence community are very concerned being in the hands of civilians. >> andrew, good to see you. thank you your analysis tonight. andrew weissman. wedr appreciate your time. n.well, after the search of mar-a-lago yesterday, trump supporters on the worst parts of the internet started mur merings of a, quote, civil war. i wouldqu love to write that ki of talk as typical internet hot air, but after january 6th, i don't know if we have that luxury. we'll have that story next. f e t luxury we'll have that story next the telephone! turns out moms are always right, and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage - go with the general. when hurting feet make you want to stop,
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in the wake of the news that the fbi has conducted a search of president trump's florida home, republicans and conservative media responded about the way you expect them to, by rallying around donald trump and castigating the fbi. kevin mccarthy ved investigations into the attorney general merrick garland if republicans retake the house. and after managing to stay silent on the issue for nearly 24 hours, today the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell issued a statement saying, quote, the country deserves a thorough and immediate explanation of what led to the events of monday. attorney merrick garland have provided answers to the american
people and must do so immediately. several members of congress without a hint of irony called for defunding federal law enforcement. trump's political action committee and the republican national committee already started trying to fund raise off the news of the fbi search even mike pence popped back into public life to defend the man who once inspired an angry mob to try and hang him. all of this is what we have come to expect from the modern republican party when faced with the potential criminal behavior of its de facto leader, but beneath the surface, seeing more alarming and dangerous reaction from trump's far right supporters. according to a new report from nbc ws, ben collins and ryan riley, users on far right social media sites and messaging boards responded to news of the fbi search by agitating forcil war. users on pro-trump forums like the donald urged immediate violence asking questions like when does the shootings start?
and calling on trump to summon militias. users shared a post of the proud boys telegram adding that the fbi is biden's gestapo and civil war is imminent. >> users of pro-trump extremist forrums to stage a rally outside of the home. one far right youtube star with over 5 million followers wrote on twitter, tomorrow is war. sleep well. all of that alone is use for concern, but it is increasingly clear that donald trump intends to keep fanning these flames. politico's meredith mcgraw reports today, donald trump's team and allies are moving swiftly to draw political benefit from unannounced search by fbi agents at the former president's mar-a-lago home on monday including keeping tabs of republicans who aren't in their view sufficiently rushing to his defense, end quote. one person close to the trump
operatio told politico, quote, they're going to drastically use this to rally their allies, gop leaders on capitol hill and juice for his political agenda and run for 2024. if there was a 99% chance, it's 100% now. he makes it part of his platform, going after the fbi. joining us now is the reporter on that story, meredith mcdraw, the reporter who wrote it. good to see you. thank you for being with us. let's talk about this. an fbi investigation into hillary clinton for potentially mishandling classified information by some accounts was enough to tank her campaign in 2016. the trump team seems to be thinking this is good for them. why? >> well, they see this as a galvanizing, political force. as we saw yesterday after the news broke, republicans from every corner of the party it seemed gathered around trump to support him and express outrage over the fbi's search warrant
there at mamar-a-lago. he's been getting calls from his allies on capitol hill, encounseloring him to expedite potential 2024 announcement and for a lot of people on the right they have seen this as a unifyingorce for them as they move into the midterms. >> so ifonald trump sees this a nascent focus for his campai for president, are you aware of anyone around him in a circle of advisers who is suggesting maybe this isn't the hill to die on? >> well, i think in some ways this makes him talk about things that aren't the 2020 election. talking about the corruption of the federal government is something that has been a theme among republicans for years now. especially under the trump administration and has been something that has gotten a lot of support and has been
popularized on the right, this talk of schedule f and the, quote, weaponization of the bureaucracy has been a popular idea on the right. and something they feel like they can get their arms around and use as momentum. >> let' talk about the republicansho didn't rush to donald trump's defense and thep ultimately came out, mitch mcconnell releas a statement, for instance, after staying silentor most of day and his statement is how this needs to be explained. i just s news of another republican senator who said the same thing. they talked to wray and this has got to be explaid. tell me what the thinking is here. >> ll, while there have been republicans who,f course, have come to trump's defense, i know the house republican conference call today, it was talked about and then trump is meeting a group of republican study commiee tonight at bed minister where i'm sure they're going to talk about this fbi
raid and mo. there have been some republicans th have said hold on. let's wait a minute. see how things shake out among those who have done that of course have been mitch mcconnell whwas criticized for taking so long to come to trump's defense. senator rick sco who has been talked about and buzzed about as potential vice presint candidate and even 2024 contender. they were among the ones who said, let's wait a minute. let's pause and see how things play out. that got them a lot of criticism from theight and especially from peopl in trump world who said that it wasn't sufficient enough and that they should be taking it a step further in going after the fbi for their actions. >> what's the level of concern that trump and his responses and actions could lead to another january 6th-ish type of violent
event? we have seen some of that. there's some showing up on right wing social media at the moment. is there any concern amongst republican or trump circles about this escalating into something they don't want it to become? >> well that hasn't seemed to be the case with a lot of the language that we have seen come of the republican party. senator rick scott compared the fbi's actions to the gestapo. we have seen that heated rhetoric come from leaders of the party. but it is really concerning to see some of the far right actions as you showcased in corners of the web use really violent terms to talk about their outrage over this raid. and i would hope that in the coming days that there would be some cooling of the temperatures here because right now republicans really have been united over their outrage over what happened in mar-a-lago. >> meredith, thank you for joining us this evening.
political reporter meredith mcgraw has great reportingver what has happened the last 24 hours. donald ump's week has gotten worse. today a federal appeals court ruled unanimously that trump has to hand over his tax returns to the house of representative trump has been fighting the release of his tax returns obviously for years now. and his lawyersre almost certain to appeal this ruling and further delay the release of those documents. then again, trump's lawyers he a lot on their plate right now between the fbi investigation, the january 6th investigation, and multiple other investigations into their client. but trump isn't the only republican for whom the investigations are starting to pile up. we'll have that story next. lep. we'll have that story next
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hese are some of the findings of the michigan attorney general's investigation into efforts to mess with voting equipment in michigan after the 2020 election. quote, person one, in a barry county deputy sheriff previously met with the irving township clerk in a coffee shop in hastings to discuss vote shaving investigion they were conducting. the representation was made that person one was acting on behalf of the sheriff's department and asked the clerk to cooperate with him. the clerk gave person one a vote tabulator used in the 2020 general election. end que. then there's this incredibly important footnote. quote, person one is not a law
enforcemt officer. from there the attorney general's office descres person one as calling several more michigan electns clerks, falsely asserting they were conducting an investigation with law enforcement and convincing th to turn over thumb drives and ltops and voting tabulators,ll sorts of voting equipment. person onend their collaborators then took that equient to hotels and airbnbs outside of detroit where they picked them apart for almost a month. they told at least one clerk not to worry what was happening because, quote, her name would never come up. now, this all puts the democratic michigan attorney general dana nestle in a tough spot. not because her office doesn't ve enough evidence. they have plenty of evidencend lots of people cooperating with this investigation. it puts her in a tough spot because one of the alleged conspirators in this whole plot is matthew deperno the presumptivive republican nominee to run against dana nestle for attorney general this fall.
yesterday s formally announced she was referring to investigation to a special osecutor. in this case it's officially out of her hand andhe avoids any conflict of interest but if deperno wins in november, it's not relitigatinghe election of 2020 we have to worry about. he would then be in charge of any such investigations in the future like this. what is truly nuts is that deperno is one of the multiple republicans running for important statewide office while currently under investigation for their efforts to overturn elections. just today pennsylvania's republican nominee for governor doug mastriano appeared virtually for the january 6th. he was the pennsylvania point person in the fake elector scheme to overturn the election in that state. he was in the crowd himself on january 6th. today he reportedly would not answer a single question that the committee asked. the whole meeting lasted about
15 minutes. again, this is the republican candidate for governor of pennsylvania who if elected would appoint the state's secretary of state to oversee elections. he also told a radio show back in mar he would, quote, de-certify every voting machine in the state with the stroke of a pen via the secretary of stat so that's fun. and then, of course, there's the former president himself. president trump' former secretary of state mike pompeo was inrviewed by the january 6th investigation today after trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani was supposed to testify before grand jury in fulton county, georgia, today but managed to get that pushed back a week. just last week we learned that the justice department is reaching out to trump's lawyer directly intots investigation into january 6th. trump has not formally announced his candidacy for 2024, the fact that he's the center of multiple investigations might be the push
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manufacturing bill into law in a ceremo on the white house south lawn, praising house speaker nancy pelosi and leader chuck schumer for helping get it passed. the $280 billion package includes tens of billions of dollars to bolster the semiconductor industry in the united states, an investment to go a long way in helping u.s. manufacturers build chips that power everything from smart phones to car. few hours later, president biden was in the east room of the white house signing documents that will bring sweden and finland closer to joining nato. this all follows the senate's near unanimous vote to approve their membership to alliance, a vote that exceeded the two thirds support needed. and the victory lap isn't over yet. as biden pointed out earlier today. >> hope to be signing inflation reduction act into law lower the cost of health care and energy and make historic investments to tackle climate crisis. >> that bill could head to the president's desk as soon as friday. now that historic legislation is the much smaller version of president biden's landmark build
back better bill, but major pieces of that original legislation exist in this new bill. that legislation was result of hard negotiations by the leader of the progressive caucus, congress woman pramila jayapal held the line when parts were on the chopping block. worth hearing from her about what she thinks of the inflation reduction act and what's been left out. joining us is the chair of the congressional progressive caucus, member of the house budget committee, congresswoman jayapal. >> great to be with you. thank you for having me. >> you have long struggled to get this back in the original bill and now this one. some of your progressive colleagues have argued that this is baby steps. it's not 100% of where you wanted to be in any particular place. how do you characterize it? >> well, ali, first of all i'm really proud of the progressive
caucus for holding the line, as you said. because if you remember when the infrastructure bill came over to us, there was no build back better act. there were no negotiations. and there was no legislation. and what you are seeing today is significant -- in this bill. i will tell you that while i am heartbroken for the pieces that aren't in it, this is a massive step forward. and it is a massive step forward in a couple of ways. first, it is really the biggest investment that we have ever had in reducing carbon emissions. 40% by 2030. and that is net of some bad provisions that we don't particularly like that are in the bill. second, it is a really cost-cutting measure because not only are we bringing energy costs down, about 1,000 bucks a year for an average american family on energy cost reduction, but also healthcare costs. we're continuing the healthcare
subsidies. and for the first time, ali, not enough for me but we are going to gate toe in the door of taking on big pharma and price gouging and allowing medicare to negotiate a small set of drugs admittedly, but still a beginning to really taking on big pharma. and third, this is about finally getting the wealthiest corporations and the wealthiest individuals to pay their fair share. it's a beginning. 15% minimum tax including for large corporations like amazon, right here in my home district. everyone should pay their fair share. so i think on all three of those counts this is lowering costs, investing in bringing us forward on addressing climate change, 60 billion by the way in environmental justice in this bill. and, of course, in making the wealthiest pay their fair share. all big, progressive priorities. >> now, you managed to get the two recalcitrant senators to
sign on and joe manchin be active in the formation of this bill obviously in exchange for some things he wanted done and kyrsten sinema wanted done. when you look at the example of that, the politics in getting thisill done, took months to do it, is there some likelihood the things you're not happy about that didn't get in there, some likelood of building consensus to getore of that done during your term? >> well, i think that it's probably unlikely that we're going to get more legislation done as much as i would like to see that happen. the pieces of the bill that i'm heartbroken about that were we're not passing are of course the investments in the care economy help bring women back into the work force. but what i would say to people across this country who are impatient that we haven't gotten that done is that we made a giant step forward in drafting the language and getting the consensus for 99% of the democratic party to be on board. for universal child care, universal pre-k, investments in housing, covering dental, vision
and hearing benefits for medicare. so all we need to do, ali, is now get a couple more people, couple more democrats in the senate, who are on the president's economic agenda, and then we can pass it very quickly. in the meantime, we have an executive action slate that includes canceling student debt, that includes raising the overtime threshold so that millions of workers can get a pay raise and many other things around abortion, the dobbs decision and we're going to push on the executive branch to make sure the president is using every tool in his tool box. >> what happened on insulin? i can't get my head around what happened there. there was legislation that was -- that made a lot of sense to limit how much people pay for insulin, which is a very old drug upon which the patent run out a long time ago. i don't understand that. >> this is absolute hairsy in my mind because we had a provision,
democrats, did,o cap the price of insulin at 35 bucks, not only r medicare recipients but for anyone on private insurance as well. that, of course, is a much, much larger group of people who would see the cost of insulin come down. d the republicans refused to go along with the provision to extend that cap on insulin to a larg group of people. now of course, i should rend everyone that not a single republican voted f any of this. not a singl republican wants to cut healthcare costs for americans or energy costs for americans or take on climate change. this was passed on a democratic-only vote. but it is particularly galng to see republicans vote against, i should say i think there were seven -- six or seven, that voted with democratsn this but the vast majority of republicans voted against capping the cost of insulin. that was just cruel in my view
to all the people out there who are suffering with this high cost of insulin. >> millions and millions of people. it's one of the most common afflictions in the united states. congre woman, good to see you. thank you for the work you did on this. pramila jayapal, we appreciat your time as always. >> thank you, ali. there are key primary elections in four states tonight. a special election in minnesota that could shrink the democratic majority in the house. we're going to get to those races next. ing to get to those races next make you want to sp, it's dr. scholl's time. our custom fit orthotics use foot mapping technology to give you personalized support, for all-day pain relief. find your relief in store or online. i wish that shaq was my real life big broth. what's up, little bro? turns out, some wishes do come tr. and it turns out the general is quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, d nearly 60 years of quality coverage- go with the general. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now
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