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♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. the stunning new revelations from the department of justice in that 36-page midnight filing detailing that more than 100
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unique classified documents were seized by federal agents during the search at mar-a-lago. that raises serious questions of possible perjury by trump lawyers or others who signed letters to the fbi that they had turned everything over after a subpoena in june. most remarkably, the justice department lawyers included this extraordinary image. an fbi photo of top secret documents and other classified documents on the carpet of the former president's home office. the government says investigators developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the storage room and that efforts were taken to obstruct the government's investigation. the doj lawyers say the trump request for a special master to review the seizd documents is unnecessary and would, quote, significantly harm the government's national security interests. the sheer volume of documents with classified markings recovered in the search were more than twice the amount that were turned over by trump representatives in response to
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the june subpoena. on the campaign trail in pennsylvania, president biden strongly condemned republican attacks on the fbi ahead of his speech tomorrow night about the fight for democracy and the soul of the nation in philadelphia. >> it's sickening to see the new attacks on the fbi. threatening the life of law enforcement agents and their families for simply carrying out the law and doing their job. there's no place in this country, no place for endangering the lives of law enforcement. i'm opposed to defending the police. i'm also opposed to defending the fbi. >> we will look back on the life and legacy of mikhail gorbachev. the last soviet leader who helped bring about the end of the cold war. ushering in a new era that are in peril due to vladimir putin.
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joining us now, ken dilanian, former u.s. attorney paul charlton, phil rucker and ashley parker. ken, within the footnotes of the filing, there's a note the investigation is not simply about efforts to recover improperly retained presidential records. where do we stand at this hour? >> that is the sum total, the most impactful information we got from this filing is that this isn't just an investigation about classified documents, miss handling of secrets. this is about lies, deceit and potential obstruction of justice. that's what this filing makes clear. we didn't have to about here. if they will given classified documents back, none of this would have happened. now we see from the justice department that they believe they were lied to. a lawyer signed a document. they don't suggest where that lawyer got the information or whether they think it was donald
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trump who lied or the lawyer who lied. the lawyer signed a document saying as of june when they served a grand jury subpoena and went down there, that the trump side turned over all classified documents that were at mar-a-lago. then they developed evidence that that wasn't true. when they did the search, they found three highly classified documents in donald trump's office. they found 100 in total which is twice as many as had been turned over in june. they had to get special clearances to review them. in contrast to trump saying he has declassified all the documents, his lawyers in handing documents over, treated them as if they were classified. in special envelopes wrapped up. >> never claimed they were unclassified by the former president. they never made that claim. >> that's right. >> paul is a former prosecutor. based on your review of the filing -- first, let me ask you, the extraordinary step of going
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to the chief judge in the d.c. direct and asking for permission to reveal grand jury information and the photo, why do you think they took those extraordinary steps and put so much granular detail, the most we have seen so far, about what they are looking into, into this particular document, this filing? >> andrea, i was a federal prosecutor for 16 years. this is one of the most compelling pleadings in terms of national security and one of the most disconcerting that i have ever read. what the pleading puts out in good order is that the government started with a grand jury request, which is, as you know, a secret request. one that would not have otherwise been disclosed to the public, asking that mr. trump's team turn over classified information. the government is prohibited from disclosing that information until they get a court order.
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that's what they did here. they sought the court order. they put that subpoena inside the pleading they filed last night. it sets out that they are required, mr. trump's legal team, to turn over documents. in fact, as has been commented upon, the government goes on to say that they believe that the trump team did not make an accurate representation whether they said that they had disclosed everything that the grand jury subpoena asked for. andrea, as you know, when you are a lawyer and you are making representations to the government, if you find the government calling into question your credibility, that lawyer has a great deal to think about. that lawyer may have just become, at best, a witness in what the government says is an ongoing investigation. >> those are all really serious issues. we know, phil, that the former president is pushing back about the photo in particular and
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trying to say that that is exculpatory and claiming that they position them or whatever the suggestions are on the carpet. what do you make of that? >> it's not surprising, andrea, the former president is pushing back in this way. look, the senior people in the fbi and the justice department clearly made the decision that releasing that photo would bolster the argument they are making in court, which is that the special master should not be appointed in this case. also, that this is information that in their view the public should see. they know well that anything put in these court filings is now in the public domain. they clearly understand how the news media works and that if they release a photo like this, it's going to become instantly sort of the iconic image in telling a news story of this magnitude. so that was a very intentional and deliberate choice by the
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justice department. and for donald trump, who has been visual first in his thinking and gravitating around imagery and ways to communicate through pictures as opposed to through words, he knows the power of that image. that image shows classified documents. we're not talking about correspondence to his lawyers or things that are of a personal nature. the photo clearly shows that this was highly classified and sensitive material. >> it's not justthe cover page. it's every paragraph is marked whether classified and what level. ashley, will this kind of filing have an impact on the lindsey grahams, other lawyers, on chuck grassley, or are they so far in the trump orbit that nothing this specific and, frankly, this
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really troubling legally for the president and his circle is going to have any impact on them? >> if you just pull back a little bit, it's worth talking about again, as ken mentioned earlier, how we got to this place, which was that former president trump, like many of his allies who you mentioned, clearly believed he and his -- they clearly believed he could behave with impunity. he could take documents that belong to the national archives and more seriously classified documents, top secret documents down to mar-a-lago. and then when the justice department came looking for them, they also seemed to believe erroneously that they could not give all of those documents back. they could be misleading and deceitful about what documents they had returned and what documents they still had. so, again, the reason we are here is because trump was behaving as if he was above the law. for any of his allies watching,
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it would be a good lesson that if trump is not above the law, then they certainly are not. i can't put myself in their heads. it certainly would seem to serve as a wake-up call. >> to paul, these legal issues, obstruction is really serious. it also can be used to prove intent. so there's a lot here. the fact they were moving things around, they weren't forthcoming, they, in fact, affirmed and it's a sworn letter, it's a sworn statement to the fbi, any time you talk to the fbi. so you can have all kinds of issues there of perjury as well as obstruction and interfering with a federal investigation. >> the pleading reflects, andrea, that the government understood the gravity of the situation, that they wanted very much to recover these documents in a way that wouldn't involve something as intrusive as a
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search warrant. when the government learned that they had been mislead as it relates to the documents that were supposed to have been returned in response to the grand jury, when the government learned that there were documents that were being obstructed, their investigation was being hindered, documents weren't turned over, they were left with no alternative. it becomes at that point in time reasonable for the government to seek to recover these extraordinarily important documents. remember, andrea, as you know, some of these documents reflect human intelligence, people whose very lives would be at risk if their identity was disclosed. the government was left with no choice. this was the appropriate and reasonable step to take. this pleading, which was filed really at the invitation of the trump defense team, sets out the compelling reasons as to why it is this search warrant had to take place. >> paul, just to follow up briefly, this federal judge, who
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outranks the federal magistrate who has been overseeing the search and the affidavit and approved the search warrant, she still could go along with her previous inclination and grant the trump request. doesn't this sort of have an overwhelming body of evidence against that in terms of how this could potentially delay the investigation or interfere with it? >> that's exactly right. that's the concern the government sets out so very well. the trump lawyers are going to have a difficult time overcoming the legal and factual hurdles that the government has put in place. andrea, here is what i would add. the government has put before this judge what i would call an elegant solution, an opportunity for the judge to give the trump team a little bit but still protect the integrity and the speed with which the government needs to proceed. the government has said, your honor, if you wish to appoint a special master, simply follow the protocol that the magistrate
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judge has already approved of in our privilege review team, let that special master oversee that protocol. have that completed by the end of september, said the government. that might be a reasonable disposition. that's smart and shows the sophistication of the prosecutors handling this investigation. >> paul, ken, phil and ashley, thanks to all of you. the fda has authorized the use of the updated pfizer and moderna covid boosters designed to protect against the omicron variant for adults 18 and older and pfizer for children 12 and older. a big boost to combat the highly contagious strain and just in time for the start of the school year and the busy fall season. a state of emergency. hundreds of thousands of people without safe running water in mississippi indefinitely. how long will this crisis last? that's coming next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports."
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president biden was in full campaign mode in the battleground state of pennsylvania tuesday. he is going to be there again tomorrow escalating his attacks against republicans ahead of the midterms and branding them maga republicans. >> let me say this to my maga republican friends in congress. don't tell me you support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the 6th. don't tell me. >> the president took a swipe at republican senator lindsey graham, without name checking him, for saying there would be riots if donald trump is prosecuted for mishandling classified documents. >> the idea you turn on a television and see senior senators and congressmen saying if such and such happens, there will be blood in the street. where the hell are we?
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>> joining me now is brendan boyle of philadelphia. it's great to see you, congressman. thanks for coming in. let me flip this. the president is going to be there three times. labor day he is always in pittsburgh for the parade. three times in seven days in pennsylvania. why is pennsylvania that this president won by 80,000 votes, this close? you have a key governor race, a key senate race. the republicans are running a lot better than one would think. >> pennsylvania continues to be the single biggest battleground state in the nation. look at 2016, it was 44,000 votes trump won by. half a percentage point. as you pointed out, president biden winning by 80,000. it took a few days, as many of us remember, from that whole week.
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the reality is, i think in 2022 and 2024, pennsylvania demographically is set up to track the entire nation as a whole. as we are in a 50/50 nation, pennsylvania continues to be roughly a 50/50 state. >> the john fetterman and dr. oz race is heating up over dr. oz's inexplicable, if you look at basic politics 101 attacks on fetterman for having had a stroke and not being up to it. the fact is fetterman did cover up the degree of his illness, hasn't been able to be out there. he acknowledges that now. hasn't agreed to debate. how do you see that playing with pennsylvania voters? >> first, i welcome dr. oz to come to pennsylvania. i'm glad he decided to take up residence in our state and leave new jersey. you know, this is a unique race because -- john fetterman is not
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your typical candidate and certainly dr. oz isn't as well. that's added a unique flavor to this. however, i still believe, especially now as we are about to turn toward labor day and the final nine week stretch, there's a certain partisanship that comes into these federal races in a way that doesn't come into governor races. republicans can win governor races in massachusetts and maryland. we democrats can win governor races in kentucky and louisiana. when it comes to the federal races, that partisanship is a big driver. i do think this will be close. the polls show that now. although, fortunately, from my perspective, fetterman is leading. i think ultimately, we will win the senate and governor races. i expect this to be close. if there's anything we learned, it's to expect close elections. >> fetterman was not there in wilkes-barre where the president was speaking yesterday. josh shapiro was in the front
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row. is the president's bad polling a drag on the candidates? >> first, i am also running for re-election. i will be proud to be there at independence hall in my district literally at the birthplace of american democracy tomorrow when president biden gives what i think will be a historic speech. i would share with you that when i'm abroad as a member of the nato parliamentary assembly, over the last several years, the number one question i get from fellow parliamentarians from other nato countries is whether american democracy will survive. that's chilling that that is what is on their mind. i think that's what the president will address tomorrow night. his poll numbers obviously were not as high as we would want several months ago. i point out, they have improved, i think on the net. they have improved by ten points. you have seen them go from 38, 39 to the 44 point range.
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i think that people are feeling better right now about energy prices, oil prices. then all of the big legislative wins over the last month. >> congressman, great to see you. good luck in the campaign. wish i were in philadelphia tomorrow. >> you are welcome any time. >> thank you. the national guard has been called out and boil water advisories are in effect for people in and around mississippi's capital city of jackson. residents have been without clean water for weeks and don't know when that critical service will be restored. this is because of the overflow of the river and the fact that they have endemic problems with their filtration system. guad joins us from the site of jackson's water treatment plant. what are they doing to fix this mess? >> reporter: the plant you see behind me that distributes most of the water to jackson, this is the plant that had the issues in
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the past. it's been about a month since they had that notice, that boil water notice because of contamination in the water. the flooding came and more issues essentially made this plant fail. now you have got the federal government involved, the state government involved, bringing in their experts to look into the pumps, to look into this infrastructure. the epa says they will work with their partners to deliver critical equipment that's necessary here. that's going on. you have all these resources trying to repair the plant. meanwhile, the state and city are doing whatever they can to get water out to the residents. we have been talking to residents who tell us, some of them will have water, other days little water. others talking about people that have brown water. here is a clip of someone in jackson who shared what the water is like at his residence. >> took ten minutes to fill this. straight out of the faucet.
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that's why we don't drink jackson water. >> reporter: that's what some people have been dealing with. i will say that the majority of people we have spoken to do tell us they have some water with some pressure that comes and goes. when it goes, they have to go shower somewhere else and go to the sites to get water to flush the toilet or do non-essential things. drinking water, they will buy it if they can afford it or go to distribution centers. the issue yesterday, they would run out of water. people were turned away because there wasn't enough water. we will see what happens today. the governor says the national guard is involved bringing more water to these distribution centers. >> that's disgusting. think of washing your clothes. of course, you are not going to drink it.
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guad, you would think the government would be supplying -- the local government and state government would be supplying water as they had to do in flint for so long. are they going to wait for the feds? >> reporter: the mayor has spoken about the issues here. it's the city government that runs this plant. yesterday he offered a press conference. he said they have been asking for help for some time. the mayor is saying they don't have enough resources to make the repairs for issues that have existed in the past. some of the residents tell me, they have issues in the winter when it gets too cold. now it's hot. they have had issues with some of the pipes. we have had the flooding. it's infrastructure issues that have affected it for a very long time. we would think now that the federal government and the state is involved that we will see some changes that will bring this reliable running water. >> guad, thank you. say pineapple. that's the word green berets
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the last u.s. troops left afghanistan. a chaotic withdrawal that left hundreds of thousands of and begans who had worked for the u.s. or families of those who had behind. desperate attempts to rescue them from taliban retaliation have continued ever since. including the efforts of this retired lieutenant colonel and veterans who banded together to get a comrade out of kabul. he was american trained and fought as part of the national army, fighting alongside green berets. he was receiving death threats from the taliban. his new book "operation pineapple express," he chronicled the mission to get him to safety. joining me now is lieutenant colonel scott mann. thank you very much for being with us. it's an incredible story. tell us about why he was so important to you. >> thanks for having me on. i have to say because of the
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friendship that we had built over the years. i met him in 2010. to tell you about him, his father was killed by the soviets when he was a fighter. his mother was sold into slavery. his stepfather wouldn't let him sleep inside. he slept in a barn until he was 11. he ran away from home and lived on the streets until he joined the afghan army that the united states and nato helped stand up. he became a commando, special forces sergeant. was shot through the face warning his american comrades about an ambush. that's the kind of guy he is. it's the friendship he showed. as kabul fell and nobody else was picking up the phone, we knew we had to do something. >> how did you get him out? where does the title of the book come from? >> we basically became his eyes and ears. we did everything remotely. we had relationships in the country. we were able to help him move across the city.
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when he got within four feet of the gate, the marines were not letting him in because he didn't have paperwork. we made a phone call to a diplomat inside the perimeter. we quickly explained what was going on, he was one of us, he was four feet from the wire. he had fought with u.s. forces as a green beret and the diplomat said, i was a green beret myself. we have to take care of our own. tell your buddy to say pineapple as loud as he can. we were telling him and he did. he got in. that began task force pineapple and the pineapple express which was a mechanism we used to get more afghans and their families through. >> what is your frustration with the system? others have told me that the siv program was never designed for this emergency evacuation on this scale. not after covid and certainly not after having been shut down by the trump administration. it was not stood up quickly
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enough and other options were not explored to say nothing of the failure to anticipate the collapse of the kabul government despite military warnings that they should leave 2,500 people behind and bagram open. with that said, what do you say about the bureaucracy? >> i think you nailed it. i don't think that this is a republican or democratic unilateral failure. there's plenty for all of us to own, to include those of us who fought there, who led this thing. there were a lot of mistakes along the way, a lot of systemic failures. the biden administration owns this botched withdrawal. but the trump administration also had an approach that excluded the afghan government as well. rather than dig into that too much, what bothers me is our afghan partners, the special operators, the special forces, commandos, they have no pathway right now out of the country or
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to safety. they are the most hunted people in the country. i really think that we need both parties to come together in congress to help figure out pathways to at least get them to relative safety with humanitarian corridors in the country. i think we need to address this mental health issue our veterans are experiencing, where 73% of veterans right now feel betrayed by their leadership across all spectrums. i think we need to come together in a bipartisan way to address that and the mental health issues coming our way. those are the two things i'm most worried about. it's going to take a bipartisan solution instead of this blame game stuff going on that's frankly pushing our veterans deeper and deeper into the darkness. >> i'm so glad to talk to you. we have been pursuing this issue. thank you so much. >> i know you have. thank you for staying on it and standing up for us. >> it's so important. thank you for everything you are doing. lieutenant colonel scott mann.
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it's a great read. thank you. seeing is believing. will the release of this image break donald trump's hold or maga republicans or strengthen his grip? you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. . because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. age is just a number.
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>> reporter: it's a good question. obviously, this has become a serious issue. the threats to democracy is according to our most recent voters, even above the cost of living and the economy. those are big drivers ahead of the midterms later this fall. i think what is striking in the document we saw yesterday, a document traditionally 20 pages, the doj saying it needed 36 pages to complete the outline of its case against the former president and those around him, indicating in some really stinging language that it was striking to them that in a matter of hours, they were able to find twice as many of these classified documents as the president and his team were able to gather up over the course of weeks. they say that calls into question the seriousness of the statements that the president's legal team made in the past. we see the text of that communication, the assurance
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from the president's -- the custodian of records, one of the lawyers saying we looked for everything, we found everything and turned over everything. we know according to the fbi that that is not the case. it's really damaging for this president. i think there was a smart comment on the impact that this will have broadly as we relate to the back and forth between democrats and republicans. rich lowery said, all of this is good for donald trump. it amplifies donald trump. none of it is good for the republican party right now. >> a sage point. eugene, the timing of the trump scandal over the classified documents really couldn't be worse. nearly 70 days ahead of the midterms coming on us. >> that's right. when you talk to republicans just about what peter said, the ones who are -- have been
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worried are more worried how the midterms will shake up as we watch things seem to get better for democrats across the board, especially in the senate. they have been worried about this. donald trump being a specter and giving the democrats, president biden the ability to turn this into, instead of a referendum election on this president and this presidency, as a choice election. that is something you see democrats start to try to do is to use what's happening with donald trump as a contrast. what we have seen from his most ardent supporters are that they are ready to go. they believe anything he would say and anything he would do is okay with them. however, for some of those folks in the suburbs, some of those independents who usually lean republican, they are kind of getting sick of the drama that's swirling around donald trump and
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things that they feel he has done to make things happen to himself. this is one of those things. especially when at the heart of this is whether or not these documents belong to donald trump or whether they belong to the government. the government says they belong to them. i think most experts would say, they are right. you have republicans being very concerned that this is going to drag them down in 69, 70 days. >> eugene daniels, peter alexander, thanks to both. ahead of his time. the world honoring the member of the last soviet leader gorbachev. his legacy coming up next. you are watching mix mchl. you a. (dad) we have to tell everyone that we just switched to verizon's new welcome unlimited plan, for just $30. (daughter) i've already told everyone! (nurse) wait... did you say verizon for just $30? (mom) it's their best unlimited price ever. (cool guy) $30...that's awesome. (dad) yeah, and it's from the most reliable 5g network in america. (woman) for $30 a line, i'm switching now.
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first met in geneva in 1985, they somehow connected, agreeing on an historic joint statement that a nuclear war cannot be won and must not be fought. a summit in iceland the following year broke down in anger. on a trip to berlin, a city still divided by the infamous wall, reagan famously challenged gorbachev. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> partly influenced by nancy reagan, the president worked to get the talks back on track. the next year, gorbachev gave list first american television interview to nbc's tom brokaw. >> are you going to run the risk of a recession and inflation? >> translator: no. . >> he charmed crowds by getting out of his armed limo to shake hands. sang along with a pianoist at a state dinner. personal diplomacy produced an arms treaty. the two men walked together through red square.
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reagan said he no longer believed the soviet union was an evil empire. gorbachev was widely credited with ending the cold war and overseeing the end of the soviet union. perhaps gorbachev's greatest moment was letting the berlin wall come down in 1989 without sending in soviet for which he was awarded the nobel peace prize, but his economic reforms at home were wildly unpopular. shortly after an attempted coup gorbachev resigned, he said to avoid a bloody civil war. years later i asked him about reagan. >> what did you think when you first met him? how did he strike you? >> translator: i liked him. toward the end of the first day i knew that we would reach an agreement on some common statement. >> president biden released a statement overnight saying in part mikhail gorbachev was a man of remarkable vision, going on to say, he was a rare leader, one with the imagination to see that a different future was possible and the courage to risk
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his entire career to achieve it. joining me now is former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. michael, i want to ask you about gorbachev. i know you have a mixed view of him, certainly it evolved over time. when i did that interview i also asked him about vladimir putin who he then supported, not late in life our understanding is from his biographer that he was very upset about the invasion of ukraine and his own position on that having changed. this is what he had to say when i asked him about putin. >> do you think president putin is committed, wants better relations with the united states? >> translator: yes, absolutely. yes. >> some americans are nervous about him because he's formerly kgb and he is not -- he is not mikhail gorbachev, he's -- he's not someone we understand.
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>> of course he is not gorbachev. he is putin, no doubt about that. that i can assure you, that's true. but the people of america and the people of russia and certainly the american president and the russian president will definitely have to reckon with that and i do believe that he is a person with whom you can deal. >> and he went on to say, mike mcfaul, that the american people and the russian people know that they need to work together, these two countries had to work together. he had confidence in the russian people and in the american people. >> yeah, extraordinary interview, andrea. but 2001 was a very different time. >> right. >> some of us were worried about putin. i had written many articles by 2001 worrying about his autocratic ways, but in 2001, especially after september 11th, we did come together as countries and as people, we had a common enemy, terrorism, and
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back then president bush also thought that we could work with putin. it was what happened after 20015 that pushed us apart, but back then it was a much more optimistic time. >> he was already cracking down on the media because i did ask him about that. gorbachev was a complex figure, but from my perspective having covered ronald reagan for so long and all of the summits, the evolution of the arms control agenda was so profound under these two leaders, from what we anticipated. if you recall the hardliners in both countries, and our pentagon fighting with george schultz at the state department and george schultz aided and abetted by nancy reagan who moved reagan post reykjavik into a posture of really wanting to open up. >> well, you are absolutely right and i'm glad you give a shout out to secretary of state george schultz. i think he did play that role that you just described. but mikhail gorbachev i think is one of the most important figures of the 20th century, in
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part for what he did and those negotiations over arms control are proactive things that he d but he's also important for what he didn't do. as your piece described, he didn't stop the east germans from tearing down the wall with the west germans in 1989. he thought about using force to keep the soviet union together and he did use special forces in january 1991 in the baltic republics, now independent states. people died. that is also part of gorbachev's legacy, but at the end of the day he didn't stop things from happening and he most certainly didn't stop the soviet union from collapsing and that i think we all have to be grateful for. he allowed eastern europe to become democratic and he allowed the soviet empire to die comparatively speaking rather peacefully. >> and one last little moment when i asked him about his own legacy, here is what he had to say. >> and the legacy of mikhail
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gorbachev? >> translator: a big legacy. i think, well, it's the facts my ideas i believe go well beyond the time when i was president, i believe they are still important. let us see what happens next. >> so what has happened next is certainly profoundly different from the vision that he had, is it not? >> it is, and, you know, tragically inside russia nobody celebrates him, he is not a reverd figure in russia yet but i think history will be kind to him. we will probably have to measure that in decades but i think he will go down in history as historic figure that made the world better than when he became general secretary in 1985. >> mike, your perspective is so
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important and i'm going to reread some of what you've written in the past about him, just as i try to absorb the importance of, you know, one of the most important figures i have ever covered. >> yes. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> you bet. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on facebook, on twitter. mindy riser is up next with chris jansing reports just after this. nep xt with chris jansing reports just after this nd i have never been more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix.
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♪♪ ♪♪ good afternoon, i'm lindsey reiser in for chris jansing. as we come on the air the legal pressure on former donald trump is hit ago new level with wide implications. all because of that doj bombshell that dropped just before midnight. now his defense team faces an imminent deadline to respond. and this photo right here tells a story, it's the first glimpse inside mar-a-lago where agents found these top secret documents and it shows clearly how this highly sensitive information was labeled with gold red font. the photo is part of that new 36-page doj filing about the former president's handling of highly classified material. it lays out the actions the doj says the trump team took to withhold subpoenaed information. in total more than 100 classified records were seized in the search, including