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all eyes right now on florida and what is turning out to be fema's largest ever search-and-rescue effort. the chief saying the u.s. response was likely to be, quote, unprecedented. right now, more than 600,000 folks, they don't have power. about half of the hardest hit in lee county, a majority of the deaths are from this storm in that county as well. the number of lives lost is approaching triple digits. so far florida's governor saying more than one thousand rescues have been made. this is what the mayor of devastated port meyers beach -- fort myers, i should say, said earlier on "today." >> we have a few more days of that and then we can start allowing residents hopefully to return to the island and start sifting through their messes. >> so the president is set to get a firsthand look at the devastation on wednesday. first, though, he's touring the damage today in puerto rico from hurricane fiona last month. thousands are still without
power. water as well. we're going to get a live update on what he'll hear and see as well. also this morning, court is in session. it's the first day of the supreme court's nine-month term with justice ketanji brown jackson making history as its newest member. the history-making docket, the justices have teed up, after their last blockbuster term. opening statements are under way in a trial involving the oath keepers. their founder and other members are the first capitol attack defendants to be tried on seditious conspiracy charges. coming up, what it could mean for future cases against january 6th rioters. we want to start though with the aftermath of hurricane ian and our reporters on the ground in hard-hit lee county where serge and rescue operations are under way. we are now into day five of the
search-and-rescue mission which is currently ongoing. you've been on the ground for the last couple of days. speaking a lot over the weekend as well. still the devastation unfathomable. from what i understand, you also have two firefighters standing by who have been involved in the recovery mission there. >> reporter: yes, yasmin. it's been interesting because there's different things happening at once. we have the search-and-rescue mission taking place on the part of the island where they had mandatory evacuation and you have other areas where authorities have to come in and check on the residents. i'm joined by two members of the urban search-and-rescue team. i think a lot of the people want some clarity because not everyone is on that island under a mandatory evacuation order. they want to understand where are we at with this search and rescue process. >> so our primary objective is search and rescue, ensuring that everyone is accounted for.
and with that, we have engaged at the state, the local as well as the federal agencies to be involved with the ground and air operation. >> are we still in an emergency? are you still recovering bodies of the deceased? >> this is a very complex situation. this is a catastrophic event spread over a large, very densely populated area. there are so many agencies working in so many different areas to ensure, one, that we account for all people -- >> reporter: what are you guys finding right now? >> we have had some deceased throughout the area. we have i think 66 k-9 in the area to assist with the search efforts as well. >> reporter: okay. mike, let's get into -- we were discussing about what kind of advice you can give to people. yesterday we were out in the neighborhoods and everyone kept
asking me, what am i supposed to do? people returned to their homes. these were homes that were not destroyed but everything inside was ruined because of the flooding. you've been doing into neighborhoods. can you give some advice to a family that returns to their home? are they supposed to be cleaning up the house, moving in -- >> yes, this is a difficult situation. we've got power that's been restored to some parts of the county that we understand. you've got some parts of the county where we're still performing active rescues. when people are coming home, it's important that they do an assessment, check on their neighbors. look around. we've gone into places to do rescues and gotten a lot of intel from local neighbors to tell us, hey, they went out of town, they're safe. we know where they are. if we don't have that information, then we've got to take a look. our objective is, as these teams, is to get every single door, every single boat, every single street, and we're going to do that. >> reporter: and something that's still happening. very important to communicate
that we are under an emergency and for people to be patient and let the state and federal agencies continue with that search and rescue as more help arrives, yasmin. >> yeah, yeah, with the destruction so incredibly widespread amidst it all. dasha burns, let me bring you in. you embedded over the weekend in a restricted area with a search-and-rescue team. what did you see? what did you find out? >> reporter: yasmin, think about what you're seeing behind me here, just some of the destruction and devastation here. there are some folks working on this structure, trying to tear it down. that's what's going to happen with so much of the infrastructure here. anything that is left standing is likely going to have to be demolished and built back again. take this and multiply it over and over and over again and that is what we saw on that fort myers beach, that barrier island that is restricted and as we drove through this area, we saw
not only the power of the storm, but also the scale and scope of this search and rescue and recovery effort that's going on here. this is going to take a lot of time. we're with the florida task force as they did their door-to-door searches. those primary search efforts to see if they could find any signs of life or, yasmin, any signs of death. above me you hear helicopters hopefully heading to rescue someone. but yesterday we saw this task force head to a home where they suspected there might be a deceased individual. we saw as they brought in what they call a human remains k-9, a dog that was trained to find signs of deceased bodies. the dog alerted the team that there might, in fact, be something there. it helped narrow the search area. and i want you to hear from the miami fire chief who is helping lead those efforts on the ground
there, i asked him what it's like for his team to encounter those situations over and over again. take a listen. >> it's a sad experience. you know, there's -- there's mixed emotions in that we run a dog and that dog alerts and we know we potentially have somebody that survived. we run a human remains dog and that dog alerts and we have more confirmation that that person is deceased. so although we're pleased that we were able to locate someone, we're sad that they are deceased. >> reporter: so as you hear those tragic numbers, the death toll going up, that is the process. that's what it looks like and i'll tell you one of the more chilling moments of our day yesterday was during that time, as the dog barked, indicated that there might be someone deceased there and the team
began their excavation efforts was the silence. you think about the debris, you think about all the work they have to do to remove it, but it wasn't -- there wasn't a lot of commotion, even though there were more than a dozen people there. and the chief tells me they do that because they want to give the upmost respect to the people they might find there, yasmin. >> such an incredibly tough job the search and rescue folks have ahead of them. we thank them for that. an essential one amidst the devastation that florida has seen. thank you. i want to dig a little bit deeper everybody into what exactly fema does at this point after a natural disaster. i want to bring in mr. anderson. his work in the obama administration spanned the department of state and homeland security as well. he was counselor to the fema administrator. thanks for joining us on this. appreciate it. we're looking at day five, now,
right since the hurricane made landfall in florida on wednesday. what are the priorities now at this point? what are fema officials really focusing on? >> sure, as you heard, it's still a search-and-rescue mission. they're still going through the debris, trying to find survivors and then finding the deceased as well. that's the primary folk right now. the other primary focus is getting power and sewage restored to those areas. people can't begin to recover until those basic services are in place. giving people the ability to actually, you know, make things happen back when they get home. but the focus right now is still on that search-and-rescue operation. >> how difficult is it to organize and also collaborate with all of the various entities that are helping with these search-and-rescue efforts? >> that's actually one of the
core strengths of fema. if you go and see the national response center here in washington, d.c., you have entities from all different parts of government, d.o.d., department of emergency, the red cross, and they really are coordinating these efforts. you have a large national search and rescue presence. you have local search and rescue presence. you have a lot of folks that, you know, can register for help by calling fema or going to a disasterassistance.gov. but there are other entities that need to play a role. there's needs for shelter, food, water. fema prepositioned a lot of materials there already. but these other groups are coming in and filling in the gaps when they can. >> i want to talk to you quickly about some controversy surrounding lee county where we're seeing the majority of deaths right now and a call for evacuation. the storm took a turn monday evening. that's when we kind of got the heads-up that it was headed
towards lee county. an evacuation was not issued for that area until tuesday or so, right? a day ahead of when the storm actually made landfall. other orders were put in place before that in neighboring counties. now we see the destruction that took place there. we see the loss of life, a number of people that have lost their life because of this storm. in your professional opinion, should they have issued a mandatory evacuation sooner to avoid where we are now? >> that's something that the local officials is going to have to look at. there's always in these types of storms after action that is were done. lee county was in the cone of uncertainty and it's call a cone of uncertainty for a reason, we don't know where the storms hit. we have a sense of where they might go. that's really something that the local officials are going to have to analyze and, you know, make a decision on for future events. like i said, we always learn from these events lessons for
the future and i think this is one of those lessons. >> thanks for lending a hand today. good to talk to you, sir. so the president, everybody, is planning to get an upclose look at the devastation of ian. but first he's making his way to puerto rico. he's in the air right now on his way there. but he made these comments just in the last hour before he departed. >> heading to puerto rico because they haven't been taken very good care of. they're trying like hell to catch up from the last hurricane. i want to see the state of affairs today. >> fiona hit puerto rico at a category one storm on september 18th. it knocked out power to the 3 million people who live there and more than 100,000 still have not gotten power back. more than 60,000 people are also without water right now. gabe gutierrez is there in puerto rico and has been reporting on the devastation
there for quite some time. it's great to talk to you. what can we expect, gabe, the president is going to be seeing there today, and hear really from officials for what they need? >> reporter: good morning. president biden just saying that puerto rico really hasn't been very well taken care of. that does echo some of the frustration that we have heard from some residents on the ground who more than two weeks after hurricane fiona still do not have power. behind me you see power crews that took overpower transmission in puerto rico last year. you see the work crews here, they've been here throughout the morning. this is one of the neighborhoods that still does not have power. we have spoken with several residents who say that they've been waiting for power to be restored here, but, yasmin, it's actually the southwestern part of this island, some of the more rural areas that are dealing with those power outages right now. according to luma energy, 92% of
customers have had their electricity restored. that's largely good news. but, again, some of the residents here feel that luma has not done a good enough job in restoring power here. we spoke with an official who says there have been complaints about this company since it took over last year. luma has said there has been issues with power generation and that would fall to the responsibility of prepa which is the government-run utility here. a lot of finger-pointing. some of the residents that we've spoken with feel that a lot of the resources have gone to the u.s. mainland, of course. we've heard that more than 40,000 line crews were prepositioned in florida ahead of hurricane ian. here luma just says there were several hundred power crews who were positioned here. logistically, much harder to get help, to come here to this island. president biden coming here later today along with the fema
administrator and the first lady to get a firsthand look. also will announce funding from the infrastructure plan to potentially help puerto rico respond better to future natural disasters. >> we'll watch for the president's arrival there in puerto rico in just the next couple hours. gabe gutierrez, thank you. coming up next, everybody, opening statements have started in the trial of five members of the far right oath keepers growth for their actions on january 6th. what we have heard so far in the courtroom. new warning signs for democrats ahead of the midterms in our brand-new nbc poll. why republicans are gaining ground with latino voters and the supreme court is officially back in session this morning. will this term be as controversial as the last? we'll be right back. he last? we'll be right back.
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alabama and an msnbc legal analyst. ryan, let me go to you first, and if you could take us inside the courtroom and what we know has taken place so far. >> that's right. actually, the doj is right in the middle of their opening arguments right now, laying out for jurors what they say is a plan here, essentially, to oppose the peaceful transfer of power. they're laying out how stewart rhodes talked with a lot of members of the oath keepers and worked with them to have guns stationed outside of d.c. in a hotel in virginia and sort of lying in wait until they were called upon under the location of the insurrection act is what stewart rhodes' lawyers are maintains. the doj is arguing that this argument about the insurrection act is just a cover story for what they actually wanted to do. in fact, they played audio of him saying just that, that this is the legal cover for what they were trying to do which is just -- which is oppose the
lawful transfer of power and keep donald trump in office. i suspect we'll get more arguments about that where the doj says this is a cover story. he's trying to give his yale-educated legal spin to it, but they were trying to intervene and stop the peaceful transfer of power and stop joe biden from becoming president of the united states. >> a couple things to dig in on, and i will say, you know, it's autumn when you have a leaf blower outside. thanks for talking through that. we appreciate it. just making laps really behind you. joyce vance let's go into this motion that was denied about a change of venue. you and i kind of gotten into this a little bit over the last couple of days but i think it's interesting because when you think about the jury makeup in washington, d.c., it's hard to find folks that aren't following politics, right, don't know who the oath keepers are and don't know what happened on january
6th. let me read from you from a producer who tweeted this, zero of the 16 said they had bias related to january 6th, zero said that they could not be impartial and zero had ever heard of the individual defendants. you're prosecuting this case, let's just say, what do you make of that? >> i'm not surprised at all by that because people who follow the news are very focused on the news. but my experience in 25 years as a prosecutor was that even when we had a very high-profile public corruption-type case or a high-profile violent crime case going on that we were getting ready to strike a juror for, every time the number of jurors who would come in who simply would not have heard about what was going on, even in something very, very high-profile, and even among those who have heard,
many don't follow issues closely, have no problem taking an oath saying that they're willing to decide the case based only on the facts that they hear in the courtroom and the law as the judge instructs them on it. and that's what defendants are institutionally -- constitutionally structured to do. >> let's talk about how it could be problematic, have vulnerabilities to it. i want to read you, lawyers for stewart rhodes are poised to argue that jurors cannot find him guilty of seditious conspiracy because all of the actions that he took before the siege on january 6th were in preparation for orders he anticipated from then-president, orders that never came. what do you make of this defense, joyce? >> so rhodes has been to law school and in his first year
criminal law class he undoubtedly learn that there was something called a defense of public authority. that in very rare cases, defendants are able to say, yes, i committed a crime, but it's okay because a person in the government with the authority to direct me to commit that crime did so. and that's what rhodes is trying for here. frankly it suggest that is he doesn't have much of a defense to offer. it's very unlikely that this will work here in large part because it relies upon the mistaken belief that there was fraud involved in the 2020 election. >> all right, joyce vance, i'm going to ask you to stick around if you can. we're going to talk about the new session of the supreme court. ryan reilly, as always, thank you as well. i want to get to a development in the trial of former president trump friend tom barack. former trump secretary of state rex tillerson will testify this
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that says social media companies cannot be held liable for what users post of them. there are other critical issues as well the high court is expected to touch on this term, affirmative action, religion, free speech and gay rights. today is a historic one because it marks justice ketanji brown jackson's debut on the bench. kelly o'connell has more from the supreme court. >> reporter: good day to you. it is the first monday in october and that means a new term for the supreme court and this is a new court with justice ketanji brown jackson joining the bench. she is now among the nine and that nine includes four women for the first time in u.s. history. she's the first black woman to serve on the highest court in the land. she was welcomed here friday with a special ceremony where she took the oath and took her seat at the bench for the first time. today the oral arguments begin for this new term and that is the first, the first day of this
new term, and there are consequential cases head over the weeks and months to come. and it follows of course what was a very blockbuster session for the previous term with roe v. wade being overturned. there will be other big cases ahead here on matters like race and voting rights, the environment, gay rights. those are all issues that this court will grapple with and still expected to be a court that will turn towards the right. of course, it comes at a time now where it's only about a month until the midterm elections and some of those issues are likely to play out in the election space as democrats believe that roe v. wade being overturned will motivate their voters while conservatives are pleased that this court remains a conservative supermajority. we'll be covering all of this today and in the weeks and months to come as this new court gets under way. back to you. >> thanks to kelly o'donnell for that. i want to bring back joyce vance to talk through some of this stuff.
we just talked about it, listed it, really, on what's ahead. here's how the "new york times" puts it, the court's supermajority seems poised to dominate the new term as it did the earlier one. what do you make of that, joyce? >> i think that that's where we are with this supreme court, with the six three supermajority, they can even afford to lose the chief justice on occasion when he votes with the more progressive wing of the court, and so many of the cases the court will hear this term are cases that involve long-settled law. affirmative action is a good example of that where the court has agreed to hear a pair of cases, one from harvard, one from the university of north carolina, the importance of that is that one ruling will cover public universities, the other private, and there is no reason to hear an affirmative action case. that law is settled unless this
court intends to reverse precedent and prohibit or severely restrict the use of racial criteria as one of many criteria used in making these decisions about who gets university admission. >> so speaking of kind of this conservative supermajority, you think about what's already taken place, the rejection of the challenge to the bump stock ban. you compared that to what happened in the last term in which they extended gun rights, especially here in new york state, what do you make of that juxtaposition? >> it's very interesting, but i wouldn't read too much into it. this is the -- the bump stock ban simply means that they have declined to hear that case, that's it's not a significant enough issue for the court to take up. their trajectory on guns is clear. increasingly, they will leave it up to states to put into place the laws that their administration can muster, nothing changes because of not
hearing the bump stock case. >> we appreciate it. deep breath. we're now just over a month, 36 days out, to be exact, from the midterm elections and new polling comes with warning signs for democrats. our nbc news national survey finds republicans are gaining ground with a key group that is generally reliable for democrats, latino voters. steve kornacki is joining me now to break it down. this is astounding. i got into this a little bit yesterday as well. but talk us through this survey and why it seems latino voters specifically are drifting more towards the republican party. >> yeah, this was the big question or one of the big questions coming out of the 2020 election when donald trump had made significant gains relative to 2016 among latino voters, would that trend continue going forward. this poll here, we did a poll nationally of just latino voters. you get a pretty big sample size. really good data gets at this
question. among latino voters, first of all, what do they think of joe biden? his approval rating sits at 51, 45 among latino voters. that's better, but only by a little than biden fairs with voters overall. overall with all voters, he's at 45%. he's a little better with latino voters. it's not that much. 45 versus 51. when you get to the question of the generic ballot, democrats or republicans. you ask latino voters in our polls which party would you prefer, democrats lead on this, 54-33. but here's the context. 21-point lead for democrats right now in our generic ballot. that was the margin in 2020. joe biden beat donald trump by 21 points among latino voters in 2020 and that was a big shift. you can see it here from 2016. hillary clinton won the latino vote by nearly 40 points, 38. it came down to 21 in 2020.
that's the big shift i was talking about. and the question was, would that be locked in place going forward? here's our poll, again, democrats by 21. so we're seeing a 2020-like number in this poll, not a 2016-like number. that's why that's a worrisome sign for democrats even though they are leading overall among hispanic voters. you ask latinos in our poll what's the most important issue facing the country, one thing that's interesting is immigration and the border. when you try to suss that out a little bit and you ask the border -- the situation of the border versus immigration, what do you think is a more important issue, nearly 60% say the border. and the two parties are viewed a little bit differently among latino voters when you break it down like this. on border security, republicans are preferred to democrats by three points among latinos. on immigration, democrats have the 11-point edge on republicans. interesting findings there. but that 2020 level of support republicans have, they still
have in our poll two years later. >> i found it fascinating. i spoke to a local nevada reporter yesterday on my show who also mentioned the fact that one of the shortcomings for democrats right now is a lack of outreach and how they're just not reaching out to a lot of voters in some of these districts in which they should be, hence one of the reasons we're seeing the numbers in the polls as well. great to see you, my friend. >> you too, thanks. a key victory for ukraine, everybody, just days after vladimir putin claimed to have annexed critical regions in the east, we are live in kharkiv. but the backlash that pushed britain's prime minister to scrap plans for big tax breaks for the wealthy. we'll be right back. you're kelly clarkson! a whole new look for a whole lot less. ahhh! -you're kelly clarkson! i am... and you need this. i love it! are we in a wayfair commercial? maybe. personal sauna.
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to have annexed in what's widely recognized as sham referendums. also new it says that russian has drafted personnel without military experience. earlier noted that more russian men have fled the country to avoid the draft than have fought in the war against ukraine. erin, it's good to talk to you. these are obviously incredibly significant gains here for ukraine. it's bringing them closer really to retaking kherson. but there's still this concern over the russian president's threats. take us through where things stand this morning. >> reporter: hey, yasmin, that's right. i think you used the word "stunning" and that is an accurate descriptor to describe the events of the last 24 hours. you mentioned the territories in the southern portion of the country in the kherson area that
have been taken by ukrainian forces. the russian military pointing to the superiority of the ukrainian tank units. this just a day after a value statement from the russian defense ministry pointing to ukrainian superiority in the east. so it's very clear here that ukraine has the momentum in this fight and russia is scrambling. at the same time, it's important to note that as we're talking about these liberated areas, many of them are left absolutely devastated by russian occupation. we were in a village over the weekend, we're speaking to one villager who described just the absolute misery of living under russian occupation and intense bombardment, describing a 30-foot hole that was left in
>> i'm shocked to hear the ukrainians described as superior. it really does show a true shift in the ongoing war there. thank you. new uk prime minister liz truss is doing an about-face on one of her key economic policies this morning. she's scrapping plans to cut taxes for the nation's top earners after analysts saying it sparked market volatility and drew widespread criticism. the proposals suggested removing income tax for people making more than 150,000 pounds. this morning truss tweeted out that it was a detraction from moving britain forward and we get it and we have listened. i want to bring in data reporter brian cheung.
>> considering the economic situation that's happening in the uk and what is to come as we foresee an energy crisis? >> yeah, well the day she did it friday of the week before was the worst day for the pound and for uk government bonds in decades. it was a disaster. the markets were unanimous thumbs down, and ever since then, it's not been a question of whether she's going to make a u-turn, but when. because it became very clear that her own party, the conservative party, were not going to vote for this. they would have joined the opposition labor party to sink this. so this u-turn is forced upon her and it still looks like it's happened in a panic. all yesterday liz truss was giving interviews to regional television stations around the country -- around britain saying that she was not going to back down, that this tax cut would be
kept. that she had no -- no consideration of changing her stance and a lot of these interviews are not due to be released until later today or tomorrow morning. so it's -- it looks very awkward. >> i can't imagine it's playing well politically, though, considering how long she's actually been in office and also publicly. i mean, when do tax breaks for the wealthy play well publicly, especially because of what's happening in the country? >> i mean, it was both bad economics as we saw from the market reaction, but, yes, as your question implies, it was appalling politics. if you see the poll numbers in the last ten days since the announcement was made, the labor party's leader of the conservatives has gone from 12, 15% to more than 30%. if a general election were held today, the conservative party would be wiped out. i think in the -- in the
circumstances where people are paying higher and higher energy bills, where wages are not keeping up anywhere near with inflation, this was a politically very tone deaf measure that was also condemned by the markets. >> so let's talk about the markets if we can for a second, brian. because the markets are reacting fairly well to this about-face that the prime minister has made. that being said, who influences the markets. >> it's big money. >> so where are the markets going now? >> we need to separate what's happening overseas and in the united states. the uk has done a bit of a reversal of the spill that we saw last week because of the u-turn here. the british pound back to where it was against the u.s. dollar as of right now. demand for british government debt appears to be back as well. here in the united states, we're seeing the dow this morning at least ripping quite high, dow about 2% higher today after a pretty ugly september.
now, some of that is just a reversal on the thoughts that maybe the sell-off last month was a bit overdone. but it hasn't really allayed the fears of a recession in the united states. we're going to see a jobs report, giving us an update that's going to come out friday morning. not just here in the united states, a lot of other jurisdictions as well worried about a recession. does the global picture change in the coming months. >> you have markets doing better in the uk because this about-face. how it's going to affect the folks who need the money is going to be determined. you have markets doing a little bit better here come october in the united states. who knows that's actually going to last, though. that's the question. they've been so volatile over the last couple of weeks. >> and what we saw in the middle of this year between june and august, it said maybe the spill of 2022 was over and that we had seen the bottom. clearly we're at new lows now. investors wondering whether or not we've fully priced in this recession that people are worried about.
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