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question, if at some point you're going to see more of them. it might not be in february, but as we get into the spring, we have to get an out here. it's going to be fascinating to watch mccarthy manage that, because as you pointed out, that is what 2025 looks for. the rest of his caucus could care less. >> final question for you in 2024, donald trump has this backhanded compliment towards nikki haley, who says that she wouldn't rum if trump was running, who is now running. clearly, they want her in the race in 2024. he understands the math of the divided field. how important is the size of the field, the sheer size of it from what it happens in that primary, in the republican party? >> chris, history shows us that the size of primary field can be pretty important. in a scenario where you have got to behemoths, trump at 40%, dos santos runs at 40%, then sure, i think that i'm not sure that that benefits trump. it might benefit desantis. there is a question, and it is a question that trump might roll into this time next year, super strong. this guy could completely fall apart, and so he could become part of the basically back of the crowd which he is talking about. he is certainly not off to a good start here. it's been the most -- political campaign i've ever that is all in on this wednesday alex wagner tonight starts right now. >> good evening, alex. >> i used to do that a lot with rachel. >> i don't know what that says about us, my friend. i was going to say a lot of
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unknown is -- always good to see you, my friend. thanks to you for joining us this evening. on april 3, 1968, the mason temple in memphis was packed. memphis was a city in mourning. it was grappling over the deaths of two employees of the memphis department of public work, employees who were crushed to death while taking cover from severe weather. today marks the 55th anniversary of their deaths under the slogan "i am a man" more than 1,000 black employees were on strike and tensions were rising. so despite a bad thunderstorm that april night the room was filled, and there was one man the crowd wanted to hear from. martin luther king jr. had visitedhe memphis twice before. he was trying to help the black workers get a living wage and decent working condition, and
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that night he was back, delivering what would be his final speech the night before he was assassinated. dr. king began his famous mountaintop speech by saying something is happening in memphis, something h is happeni in our world. >> we have been forced to a point where we're going to have to grapple with the problems that men have been trying to grapple with through history but the demands didn't force them to do it. survival demands that we grapple with them. in the human rights revolution, if something isn't done and done in a hurry to bring the colored peoples of the world out of their long years of poverty, their long years of hurt and neglect, the whole world is
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doomed. >> today in memphis hundreds gathered at mississippi boulevard christian church, just a few miles from the historic bishop charles mason temple where king delivered that final speech. the room, again, was packed and the city was again in mourning. this time over the death of 29-year-old tyre nichols, a black man whose family calls him a beautiful soul who died last month from injuries three days after five black memphis police officers brutally beat him. nichols' family and friends, mothers of other black people slain by police, government officials across the country, ou even vice president kamala harris, they are all there today for tyre nichols' funeral. like that night in april 1968 when there was apr thunderstorm nichols' loveder ones and supporters braved an ice storm today to gather in that church
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and honor nichols' life and declare as they did in a press conference last night in the spirit of that strike in memphis 1968, they declared, i am a man. it is a simple declaration that this victim killed by a system of oppression was a man, a person just like everyone else. and the system that killed him must change. reverend al sharpton, founder of the national action network, delivered the eulogy today. he began with a reference to dr. king in memphis those 55 years ago. >> in the city that enslaved the dreamer, what is happening to the dream? >> throughout his eulogy the reverend recalled history, black civil rights history to make sense of why the crowd was gathered in memphis today, why tyre nichols is dead, why their parents lost their son who loved sunsets, skateboarding and
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photographer. why tyre nichols' son no longer has a father and despite this tragedy entire communities, whole cities even continue to live in fear this will happen to someone else. sharpton called on the mothers of breonna taylor and eric garner, two others killed by police officers to stand. but to understand this pattern why it exists and what it might take to break it, reverend sharpen drew on memories of the past. >> we're not asking for nothing special. we're asking to be treated equal and to be treated fair. and just like they marched and boycotted and went to jail for nine t years from the '55
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montgomery bus boycott to the '65 civil rights act, we're going to pay the same dues to get this george floyd justice and policing act. reverend, how long, i don't know how long. they didn't know how long it would be when they boycotted in the '50s. it's not about a timetable. it's about we cannot continue to live under these double standards and underer these conditions. >> those references to the 1955 busboy county against ag segregations, which preceded the 1964 civil rights act outlined discrimination in publict spaci those were references to hard-won civil rights victories. they were meant to solve systemic problems in the american social fabric, ones that specifically disenfranchised black people. they've reminded us over the past month america has a policing problem and in our police departments something is broken. in memphis alone where black people make up 65% of the city's
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population, they make up 80% of police use of force cases. they're overrepresented among use of force victims by a lot. to many people that would indicate a flawpe in the systemf policing, and that is why today as they stood in front of tyre nichols' casket, kamala harris, al sharpton, ben crump, and nichols' own mother reiterated that the thing that needs to change, the civil rights victory that needs to be won now is policing reform. >> i just need whatever that george floyd bill needed passed. we need to take some action because there should be no other child that should suffer the way my son and all the other parents here have lost their children. we need to get that bill passed. because if we don't that blood, the next child that dies, that
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blood is going to be on their hands. >> to pass the george employed justice and policing bill or even to decide on what's going towh be in that final bill requires a comprehensive understanding of the injustices that are written in the rules, the oppression that has been a feature of these systems and needs to be combated. it requires knowledge of the history that is present in all these moments, the memphis of 1968 and the memphis of 1923. the history behind the slaughter. knowledge and understanding of the system operating here is necessary to begin to fix it. and, yet at this very moment local leaders in this country arein leading an effort to systemically whitewash, to
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censer the lessons. how do we ever repair the parts of our systems that ensure equality and produce constant cycles of death and grief? how do we begin to stop this? joining us now is reverend al sharpton who delivered the eulogyar at tyre nichols' funer today and also president of the local action network and host of politics nation here on msnbc. we also have the great mai'a wily ceo of the leadership conference on civil rights. rev, maya, thank you for being here today. and rev, we're also deeply grateful for everything you did not justul for the nichols fami but the country today and coming back up to new york to do this. what was it like in that room today? >> there was clearly a lot of grief but also anger and determination we have to stop this, and the way to stop it is
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by having federal law. jesse jackson and others and one william jones taught me until you change legislation and make it law, you can't really effectively change peoples hearts.y es and i think we keep asking for policemen and others to redeem themselves. until they know there's going to be accountability and change law like i was taught, you're not going to stop this. they need to have qualified immunity off the table. police feel that nothing's going to happen to me. and if you have qualified immunity off the table, which is one of the key components of the george employed justice and policing act, policemen can be leaving the home in the morning, their wives will say you be careful because we can lose the house, we can lose the car. there's no skin in the game. so we're trying to do that is
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changing the law.he yes, we won some cases recently. george floyd, those people in jail tonight. it's not just gaining political pow, it's gaining change. >> i will also say something about wanting to incentivize people to be humane to each other, right? you talk about skin in the game. what's so sad about it is that the notion of the buy in would have to happen punitively, right? it's not that we can remind each other that we're in this together, that anti-blackness is a poison that spreads throughout the black community as it does white communities and many other communities and it needs to be solved. but you have to incentivize people by saying the law is going to come at you. >> i do not believe those five black policemen would have done
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that to white kids. the fact is you know on the white side of town how to keep crime down without brutalizing and killing people, so use the same police force.ol it's not a different police department on our side of town. what works there will work here if we are respected. and i think that what's so egregious about this is just ten minutes away from where dr. king wasm killed fighting for city workers and police are also city workers, you have five black cops who wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for the martin luther kings of thefo world beat a bla man to death. i don't know what they come up on social media as the reason. they beat a man to death that was unarmed and had not committed a crime. >> maya, i can't get over that backdrop that the rev so beautifully articulates and what is happening in terms of the
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cultural wars that are being perpetrated -- i won't use any other word for it -- in states like florida wheret you have a governor who is intent on erasing to what to me feel like the gains of the civil rights area, the cultural progress, the racial progress. how do you square the censorship that's happening in classrooms, the denial of history, the denial ofhe conversation around the sins of the past and systemic oppression, and what we see here playing out on the street, which is evidence of systemic oppression, of systems that are flawed? >> because it's not a square, it's a circle. and that circle is exactly what the rev is saying, which is we have a system of laws and principles that have not been equallyve applied. when we have achieved some measure of equality, of equal f achievement, of getting some fairness it's because we had to
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fight for itbe even when it's inscribed in law. i mean the voting rights act had to be passed in 1965, proud to lead the coalition that helped get that pass across the country but it was because -- and rev, you've said this on voting rights. there was always a constitutional right to vote. so just like policing there was always supposed to be theso law of protection. it's how we apply them. and your point about humanity, how can we have humanity when we don't learn our history because to your point what we just saw on the news today out of florida was, you know, the college boar, with a curriculum, an advanced placement curriculum on the first day of black history month on black history. but what the link that desantis is trying to break and that too many politicians pushing
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division,ns using race or sexua identity or any other number of things as a wedge between us, is to deny that our history is at allry connected to the experiens we're having. so let's remember what is historic today is not -- is not that tyre nichols is dead. that is common. what is historic that anyone is paying any price for it. that's what's historic. it was historic when officers went down for murder for george floyd's killing. that was historic. being killed by police for driving while black is not. >> it's really -- and i understand where you're coming from and i understand how memphis is u being sort of heldp and crump said this should be a template, thelacrity in which
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these systems move that should be a model for the nation for the next time a black person is killed by police. it's the next time the expectation that, oh, yes, there will be another innocent black person that's killed by police some time in the near future and we hope that law enforcement moves quickly to punish them. that's the part still so difficult to handle, to swallow, to just abide the notion this violence continues but maybe the circumstances around it can be made better. >> and we can't do it police department by police department or state by state. there must be federal law. that's why i said reverend jackson and reverend jones taught me you've got to change the laws. her father -- we were taught drilled in this because we don't get anything out of this other than to try to do what is right, and what is right is to change
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the law recognize 20 years from now what do we have, a lot of marches thatot achieve nothing, that fundamentally changed how society operates to protect its citizens you needot law to do that. >> there was an important lawmaker at the funeral today, the vice president of the united states. she, herself, emblematic of progress this country has made. you asked her to speak. it didn't seem like she came with prepared remarks. >> she didn't. >> what's your impression how this death in particular is changing the white house focus on police reform? >> i think when she spoke and talked about how she was one of those inbo the senate before th vice president that offered the george floyd bill and pushed it forward, president biden has said we need this law. now we need the senate. we need all the democrats and some well-meaning republicans to say we can't keep being episodal
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and keep going from one death to the next. the issue now is voting rights and police reform. that is theno civil rights challenge of the 21st century. we must meet the challenge. >> do you think we're in agreement onth that those of us who want to see change, this is the civil rights battle of our era? >> yes, you can't be for civil rights and not see the importance of protecting our right to decide who leads us, protecting our right to be from police violence. there's nothing more fundamental to our rights as residents and citizens of this country than to be able to do both those things, literally to choose leaders and live and have anybody in a position of power to pay consequences for notr paying attention to the same laws we all have s to pay attention to. now, i will also say because the rev s is so right about this, is not given, it's not ever given, it's demanded. change and laws are demanded. and when we see the laws that do
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not equally apply that's why we have new laws that says we figured out the loophole, now we're going to close it. when we see any politician of any party who claims to be in favor of civil rights but lies about whether or not there's voter fraud or lies about whether or not closing poll sites in black communities keeps black people from being able to vote or lies when you have police officers at polling sites and suggests that you are not making people agrade to go cast their ballot, when the very reality of the black existence is that you're safer if you avoid the police. that is not a democracy. and saving it is exactly what the civil rights movement has always done, fostered democracy and saved it. and the truth is it makes everybody i safer, everybody stronger, everybody more empowered. and all i would say to anyone is
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any politician that seeks to divide us, calls us names, that suggests being woke is worse than being asleep is not a politician fighting for democracy and for every single resident of thiser country. >> and o just hope in 55 years people do not need to eulogize another black person with signs that say i am a man. reverend sal sharpen, maya wily, thank you both for being here tonight. i am deeply appreciative for your words of wisdom. when we come back house republicans have put fire brand jim p jordan in charge of the subcommittee to investigate what they're calling the weaponization of the federal government and democrats have chosen who will be going toe to toe with them. plus a look at the elephant in the room, literally the elephant. donald trump wants a 2024 republican presidential nomination all to himself, but the rest of his party maybe not so much. that's next. f his party maybe n so much. that's next.
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donald trump is about to get his first bona fide competitor for the republican presidential nomination in 2024. today the charleston post and carrier was the first to report that former south carolina governor nikki haley is running for president and will officially nounce her campaign two weeks from today.
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we also learned today that haley's south carolinian republican senator tim scott is set to hold events amid speculation about his own presidential run. and yesterday larry hogan told fox news he's also giving very serious consideration to his own run in 2024. it is clear that trump's early entry into the race has failed to dissuade potential challengers ahead of what could be a crowded primary field. but right now polling continues to show the only potential canned tit within spitting distance of donald trump is florida governor ron desantis who has yet to declare his own candidacy. today governor desantis continued to press the issue republican primary voters apparently care most about, and that issue is owning the libs. >> when we just added because i think it needs to be done no tax permanently on gas stoves. they want your gas stove, and we're not going to let that
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happen. >> they're not going to let that happen. that was florida governor desantis today announcing his new big policy plan for the state of florida is 6% off your gas range when you use the code desantis. believe it or not that kind of politics gets you second place in the early republican primary. but let us be clear, let us make no bones about this the front-runner as of now is donald trump and the republican strategy for defeating trump, preventing him from being the nominee, if you will, is essentially sit around and hope something bad happens. ask republicans how they plan to move on from trump and the discussion quickly veers into the realm of hopeful hypotheticals. maybe he'll get indicted and his legal problems will overwhelm him, maybe he'll flame out early or get bored and wander away, maybe the situation will resolve itself naturally. he's old, after all. how many years can he have left?
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joining us now is josh marshal. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with a question that confuses me, and that is which republican party do nikki haley and larry hogan think they are running to potentially be the potential head of? because it's hard for me to imagine and mike pence for that matter, it's hard for me to imagine any of them having any base of support. is this a fools errand or do you think they might be onto something? >> i can't imagine nikki haley would win the nomination but at least she's somewhat in line with the politics of the republican party. hogan he's certainly considered an honorary democrat by a lot of republicans, so they're not going -- neither of them are going anywhere. what really strikes me most about if you can call it this kind of incipient primary
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campaign is that everything even though donald trump is clearly weaker than he was. he's having a hard time raising money, his polls aren't as good. he's got people willing to challenge him and stuff like that, but the whole race is still defined by him. everything about ron desantis is just he's the one who might be able to get rid of trump. there's trump, there's the get rid of trump candidate, and then there's a bunch of other people who -- who, you know, sometimes they get over 1% in the polls. you know, you have these gop presidential primary polls, and often like liz cheney is fourth at like 3%, right? so people like nikki haley and mike pompeo, they're all at like 1% or 0%. so, yeah, it's -- that is really the thing right now. clearly donald trump is a lot weaker. he's got all these legal
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problems. you even see in some ways in his events now he's kind of off his game. he doesn't quite have it the same way, but still for the gop it's like, you know, dragging around a half ton anchor on your motorboat, right? it's not you're going to go down to the bottom of the river and go down with the anchor, but you can't really go anywhere else either. and that's really kind of where it is, and that's why i think it's possible -- i'm not saying it's likely but it's possible we're going to have this primary campaign, donald trump is going to end up polling, you know, 30% in each of the primaries, pretty similar to what he did in 2016, and a lot of republicans are just going to say, well, there's kind of nothing else we can do so i guess we're going to do this again. even though probably majority kind of would just assume -- maybe he'll just get bored and
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walk away or something like that. >> or really, they talk about him -- they talk explicitly -- peter meyer, former congress person says i've heard from a lot of people who will go on stage and put on the red hat, maga hat and give me a call the next day and say i can't wait until this guy dies, and it's like good lord. dark humor though it may be is really seemingly the strategy here. they are content to literally like let nature take its course rather than usurp, take away the scepter from the king. it is shocking to me in this moment where so many lessons have been learned, where the country has borne witness to an insurrection at the hands of donald trump, they cannot say it's time to exit stage right. the only indication we have anybody has chilled is the money. the fund-raising numbers are the
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only indications i see trump might be in trouble. he's raised less than $10 million when he announced his bid for the white house compared today a similar period in where he raised $250 million. do you think they acquiesce as well? >> there are the dozen or so billionaires who fund most of the republican party right now, and most of them at the beginning of 2016 like, ah, donald trump, scoundrel, i can't abide him and then they all fell in line and gave him money. and then you've got the small donors and the sort of paltry money he's raised so far, that's the small donors. you know, i think they'll come around and at the end of the
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day, look, we all need to remember what happened in 2016. everybody in the gop was against donald trump and then he won. and they all fell in line. and i think it's quite possible that same thing is going to happen again. the one thing i think may be different, and i think this really is donald trump's weakness is that in 2016 donald trump took over the republican party by something like shock and awe. first he's a joke, then he's winning some primaries. suddenly he has the nomination and then a lot of republicans are like, well, okay, we'll lose and then we'll rebuild the party afterwards. and then he becomes president and it all kinds of happens so fast, no one quite knew what to do about it. but now you do have elected officials, for some republican voters like the last three elections have not gone that great for them. he may be in jail by the end of 2024, so i do think there's a
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sense in which possibly a critical mass of republicans are like, we did this already, we're not going to fall in line quite the way we did. on the other hand, they may well just fall in line. i think that's probably the more likely of, you know, the two possibilities. >> it's just wow. ron desantis is offering 6% off a gas stove. that amounts to a platform in the gop these days. >> that will certainly be the central platform playing in the 2024 gop platform. >> hot tip for 2024. founder and editor-in-chief of talk points memo, it's great to have you on the show. thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. when we come back we'll talk about what the fbi was doing at president biden's vacation home today and what they did find and what they did not find. plus house democrats pick their members for the republicans new subcommittee on the so-called weaponization of the federal government. and two of their picks were heavy hitters for each of the
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today we learned the new republican controlled subcommittee to investigate the so-called weapon swraegz of the federal government will have nine democrats siing on the panel. congresswoman stacey plaskett
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was selected today by house minority leader jeffries to be on that committee. joining her on the republican's weaponization subcommittee are eight other democratic members including the lead counsel from trump's first impeachment now freshman fwrszman dan goldman. republicans are expected to use the subcommittee to investigate the fbi and the department of justice squs the intelligence community. just last week the 12 republicans led by chairman jim jordan met to discuss the possibility of unilaterally issuing subpoenas to witnesses. and they held that meeting without their democratic colleagues, which is -- now that democrats are actually in the room what are they hoping to do? what can they actually do? joining us now is new york congressman dan goldman. may i say in advance good luck
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on this committee and what is the play book for democrats? we already have indications republicans are going to use this committee to launch all manner of questionable inquiries. what's the play book that you can use to effectively stop the worst -- the most adverse effects and narratives? >> well, you're right, alex, the breadth of the jurisdiction of this subcommittee is really stunning including having the authority to investigate ongoing criminal investigations, which is a very scary thought because of course the department of justice must keep confidential their ongoing investigations, but why do they want to do that? well, there's several ongoing investigates of donald trump, but there also are ongoing investigates including the january 6th insurrection related to republican members of the house. and i think what we are going to have to do on this committee is
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recenter this conversation around our democratic institutions, the rule of law, and the foundations of a rules based society that we live in. i had ten years of experience as a federal prosecutor in the department of justice, and i worked with the fbi every day. i worked as a staffer on the house intelligence committee, and i understand the intelligence community, and i'm going to bring that experience as a sober and truthful reminder to jim jordan and the other republicans as to how things actually work and how important these executive agencies are to our community's safety and to our national security. >> congressman, you are going to have a lot of work to do. but with that mandate, you know, this subcommittee is supposed to be investigating the weaponization of the federal government, there is an investigation i think is warranted, and that is the durham investigation over at doj. "the new york times" had some explosive reporting on the ways
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in which then attorney bill barr what sounds like colluded with the -- with john durham, the special counsel who's retained to investigate the origins of the trump-russia investigation. and the relationship between those two men sounded inappropriate. there was late nights drinking scotch, a sort ofkiesiness that sounded inappropriate for someone who's supposed to be an independent investigator. and there are a lot of questions around a potential criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings relating to then-president donald trump. i know that you have sent -- you and congressman ted leiu have called on inspector general to look into whether he violated any law or practice of legal ethics when it came to the durham review. can you talk a bit more about what you see and what is a red
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flag for you? >> yeah, you're absolutely right. if you want to talk about the weaponization of the federal government let's look at the four year john durham investigation, which yielded two indictments both of which were acquittals and even bill barr admitted the purpose of those indictments was not actually to convict the defendants was to effectively launder a conspiracy theory about the russia investigation and its origins through a criminal prosecution. there are sirens blaring all around this investigation from an excessive abuse of power to prosecutorial misconduct to the politicization and public speaking against department practice about an ongoing investigation even to the point where two prosecutors on the durham investigation resigned in protest. tus to be clear before the trump administration that type of thing almost never happened. it was like a regular occurrence during the trump administration.
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so i really hope that if jim jordan and the republicans want to investigate the weaponization of the federal government, that we start with the four-year waste of time and waste of resources that was the john durham investigation. >> and congressman, we know bill barr this evening in an interview with the l.a. times addresses the criminal -- the tip that effectively bill barr got about potential spig s financial dealings related to the former president and the criminal investigation that was subsumed or adopted into the durham probe. bill barr saying the tip was not directly about trump. it's a quote from the story, and it was folded into dureroom's inquiry because it did have a relationship to the russia gate stuff. it was not completely separate so therefore should be in durham's purview according to barr and turned out to be a complete nonissue. are you satisfied with that? are we going to hear from john
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durham about what exactly this tip was and this investigation is? >> we better. bill barr should not be talking about it. he's not independent special counsel. we better hear from john durham in his report everything about that tip. and i certainly hope we will get more information about that. you know, bill barr is continuing on his reputation laundering campaign where he claimed that it would -- it doesn't hold water that there was a thin rationale for opening this investigation. he's right, it doesn't hold water. there was no reason for it. the inspector general did an investigation of this exact topic and yet bill barr and john durham tried to convince the independent inspector general to reverse his conclusion that the origins of the russia investigation were legitimate. so there are real problems all over here and i really do hope
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the department of justice inspector general digs into this with the same intensity and aggressiveness that he dug into the origins of special counsel mueller's investigation. >> i mean talk about quite literally the weaponization of the federal government. you're on the subcommittee. good luck to you, congressman dan goldman, and thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you, alex. we have more to come include how day one on the job for the trump allied special counsel investigating president biden's handling of classified documents, how on day onethrust an fbi search of president biden's beach house. stay with us. stay with us i learned that i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2.
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proven quality sleep. only from sleep number. president biden's rehoboth, delaware, beach house has six bedrooms, five bathrooms and apparently zero classified documents. the president's personal lawyer announced today federal investigators searched the property with biden's permission from 8:30 a.m. to noon today and did not find any classified material. joining me to discuss how and why this happened is carol leonnig, reporter for the washington post. from your reporting we know what these other searches turned up. do we have any idea why the fbi searched biden's beach house today? >> you know, alex, it's a great question. and the reason i'm told by sources is to be exhausted because the biden team, his
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personal lawyers and of course allies of the white house kind of want this over and done with, they want to figure out the totality of places where records may have been sent from the time of his vice-presidency that ended in 2017 in january, and they want to know the totality of records that might be outside government possession and make sure they're secure. you know, i think you've made this point before which is that the biden team as soon as they first found records in november of this past year they alerted the government officials responsible for securing such documents for the national archives, and then the department of justice began the standard kind of process for making sure they secured such records. they told the biden team to hold up, let them know all the places where records could have been sent and to stop reviewing and searching for any classified
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records. the result has been painful for president biden because it's been a drip, drip, drip of discoveries. but behind the scenes i am told this is all about cooperating with the department of justice and trying to defer to them in their searches. >> we think today was the first day of work for the special counsel, robert herr. do we think there's any coincidence between the timing. what's your expectation of what he might be doing in his first weeks on the job? >> so i don't think there's a dramatic connection here. this is based on the fact that sources have told us the special counsel has been briefed for weeks, while he's not started in the actual location of his workplace until today, that he's been briefed on what's going on and staying abreast of developments and this is yet another search of one of the several follow-up searches to make sure all the records that
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might have been shipped to various locations are returned to government possession are found. now, i want to stress to you biden's personal attorneys had no reason to believe there was anything at the wilmington home, and they did their own search there and then they had no reason to believe there were classified records in the rehoboth home and searched there. now the fbi has followed up in both places and has concluded at least in the case of the beach house, there's no there there. >> maybe they'll find a missing pair of sunglasses in their next search. carol leonnig, national investigative reporter for "the washington post," thank you as always, carol, for your time and great reporting. >> thank you, alex. >> we'll be right back. >> thank you, alex >> we'll be right back
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