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maybe it's just vibrations. at the nobel prize ceremony, something weird happened. there they are, handing the peace prize to president obama and wouldn't you know it, something weird happens. take a look. see? there. why are they there? the salahis? >> oh, pretty good. >> there was just -- jeff scarborough and mika brzezinski with the greatest mind in polit politics. ma ma ma markcalprin. >> good morning. >> there was a war-time president there. he made the case for a just war. >> he did. >> and it was pretty stunning. >> while receiving the highest honor for peace. >> it was stunning, and it was
stunning, the response also. conservatives have been praising it. the national review. i went on line last night to see what the national review would say. they basically welcomed him to the neocon club. >> he is receiving this peace prize, and he had no choice but to go there. it would have been ridiculous to overlook the fact that he was sending 30,000 troops to afghanistan. >> barack w. obama. >> they are getting close in many ways. front page of "the new york times." we'll top our news with that blackwater and the ties to the cia. we have eugene robinson and david gregory and what was that, willie, with these guidos. >> you can't say that. >> holy -- i thought we can't
say that. >> you can't say that? >> they can say that, but we can't. >> we can't say pollack or guido? >> no. >> somebody laid out snookie at the bar. >> i would rather not see that whatever you were showing on the show. >> first, let's go to mika press inski with the news. according to "the new york times," blackwater contractors hired for security purposes in iraq and afghanistan often took a far more active role in cia operations, including missions to capture or kill mill tapt fighters. at the height of the insurgency, blackwater guards were participating in sensitive raids virtually every night. they were also on board on secret flights, transferring detainees following the 9/11 attacks. the role of blackwater, now
known as z services was within u.s. law. you don't care one bit, do you? >> i really couldn't care less. i tell you what. if blackwater could get to afghanistan and get our troops home more quickly, i'll be for that too. i don't think most americans care. i know that "the new york times" will. god bless "the new york times." they also cared about the masters a few years back. >> i wouldn't want to interrupt your breakfast. >> i think americans care about being unemployed, and i don't think they care about the other distractions. >> i think this is more than a distraction. >> of course you would. and your sensitivities and sensibilities are shocked, as are "the new york times," which is why it's a screaming front page story. >> just ignore it. nothing to see here. >> can i go back to eating?
>> go. senate democrats are considering changing a proposal to expand medicare to uninsured americans between 64 and 35 years old. it would pay health care providers less than private insurers. house speaker nancy pelosi is emphasizing just how badly she wants to push the bill through before the holiday break. >> i think we would do almost anything if it meant it would be passed, health care for all americans for the christmas holidays it may be that we can't. that we have to do it for sort of a new year's present to the american people. but as soon as we can, we will. >> let me ask mark what's going on here with the health care bill. some people like howard dean who say we need a public option say this is great. i know keith olbermann, msnbc's own keith olbermann.
i'm sure he was really upset about it. he said the bill was deranged. what's going on here? is this a win for liberals or a loss? >> liberal insis in congress ar learning they can only pass something where they have the majority of the vote. they have to pass something. if it expands health care, puts the camel's nose under the tent towards single payer, they'll be for it. >> but they have lost the public option and now they are back to basically rahm emanuel's trigger? >> i don't think we know what will happen after we get out of senate. the hurdle is to get out of the senate. at that point, the conference committee, who knows? >> you want to know a bigger hurdle? >> what's that? >> this health care bill seems to be less popular than you at a republican convention or john birch society meeting. >> i did find at a republican convention. >> only 36% of americans favor
the health care bill. 61% republicans. >> who knows what's in the senate health care bill. >> there you go. thank you. >> you also have general health care bill which is actually even worse. you go to nevada. harry reid's own state, where you have to be a nazi or holocaust or slavery if you are against the bill. the majority of nevadans are against the health care bill. i think americans are slowly but surely coming to the realization they don't want a health care bill. the taxes will gun, the debt will go up. >> but it's true that the democrats will pass this despite public opinion. >> moving on with news. >> that will help you with 2010. go, democrats! >> an american official says a united states missile strike has killed an al qaeda operative in western pakistan. it was first reported by nbc news on wednesday. the target was not identified, but the official said it was
neither osama bin laden or his second in command, zawahiri. the five americans in picked up in pakistan were trying to join tribal forces to fight u.s. troops in afghanistan. the five men will likely be deported. according to the treasury department, the obama administration's mortgage relief plan has helped just 4% of the struggling homeowners. almost more than 700,000 people signed up for the program, just 31,000 received permanent loan modifications. many homeowners say government bureaucracy and lost paperwork by their mortgage companies are adding to the delays. that's frustrating. >> what a stunner. i can't believe that government program didn't work efficiently. executives at goldman sachs can expect a smaller payday. the company says it will not pay its top 30 executives cash
bonuses for 2009. no bonuses. instead, they'll receive restricted strong that must be held for at least five years. still, even with the changes, the average employee will receive a 700,000 bonus, the largest in company history. i thought they said no bonus? >> still a good move. >> the right thing to do. >> they made a lot of money this year. they bought low. still holding on -- sold high. >> yeah. >> so, yeah. i think it's a good move. don't you think so, mark? >> they are masters of pr, and they were behind the curve and catching up. an illinois man, he said he was -- just joking. an illinois man will plead guilty to stalking next week. after secretly filming new videos of espn reporter erin andrews and posting them on line. >> are you from illinois, willie? >> i was born in illinois.
>> they call you an illinois man if you are just born there sr. >> i'm a new jersey man. >> he altered hotel peepholes to record videos. he could fave five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. >> how does that work? is the camera so little you can put it in the peephole. >> i'm not going to dignify this joke. the poor woman had a guy looking through a peephole. >> seriously. how do you get the camera inside the peephole. >> buchanan and his goons taught me everything i know. >> enough. i'm moving on. officials -- this is incredible actually. police in new york city had to shoot and kill a man after a gun battle erupted in times square yesterday, outside the landmark marriott marquis hotel. that's where i was during that speech. when this was? the suspect was running what they call a common scam selling
cds to tourists when police recognized him. when he was asked for identification, he began shooting. the 30-round machine pistol jammed up after two shots. >> look at this. and these are glory days for "new york post" headline writers. ho, tiger. instead of -- not this stuff. but it says police shot times square panic as cops blow away machine gun thug. wow. >> looks like the cops did their job. very difficult. >> they did. and it turns out there is an explanation for the mysterious spiral light over the skies of norway on wednesday. listen, blame it on the russians. the blue swirl was apparently caused by the failed test launch of a new russian missile. a test that moscow had originally denied. >> i can't believe they lied to
us. >> they didn't tell the truth? are you serious? >> the russians? putin? is nothing sacred anymore, vladimir? president obama received a wade range of reaction for his nobel peace prize speech. newt gingrich voiced his approval. take a listen. >> all right. sarah palin was on board. she said this.
jib yesterday. and two things, it wasn't like obama was pandering. he didn't say anything he doesn't believe. and, two, we need bipartisanship in foreign policy and if obama can create that around afghanistan which he did a little bit yesterday. getting support from john boehner and others, and if he can achieve that, i think that is great for the country. >> the thing is, though, he did change his tone, his foreign policy speech is what you are talking about. his speech in cairo or his speech in front of the united nations general assembly, it took on -- they were predi predictable. he would talk about himself, how he understood that the world saw him as the change that was going to help america move forward, and he would criticize the bush administration, and say -- and he would say this is where we're going in the future. a lot of apologies for past u.s. actions. yesterday, there was none of that. none of that at all. in fact, it was -- it was as
strong a defense of the united states as a moral force in the world as ronald reagan or george w. bush would have given. >> the line a lot of people liked is for the better part of six decades, it's been american military forces underwritten global security. and people liked hearing that. >> and, mika, i don't think if this nobel committee knew he was going to send 30,000 troops to afghanistan, i don't think they would have given him this war. i'm almost certain of the. if they have seen an advance text of this speech, they may have asked the hague to try him for some war crimes. >> some of it looked like "the producers," you know? >> he was criticized widely for and made it very positive step. when we come back -- >> i thought it was positive, very positive. >> when we come back, a bad
time -- a bad time for an ethics probe. charlie wrangle's tax problem could create problems as we head into 2010. one of politico's top stories. also, new details about life behind bars for bernie madoff, including his new nickname from fellow inmates. >> where did they get turd ball? it's so inappropriate. >> stop it! you can't say that! >> the only question, how badly would the steelers beat up on the browns? things didn't go exactly as planned last night. we'll show you in sports. first, here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. tgif. hanukkah begins, christmas two weeks away. the coldest air mass of the season coast to coast. take a look at temperatures. 25 in boston. 22 in new york. that's not the whole story. a shot of the christmas tree with the winds whipping around. that's the big story you're
dealing with this morning. the windchill. 10 in new york city right now, we are 9 in boston and in buffalo, we are minus 3. so it is the coldest morning we've seen and the coldest day since march 3rd. today's forecast. cold just about everywhere the rest of the country. same thing. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪
his speech. >> citizens of america, and citizens of the world. >> that guy is crying already, or he's rubbing his eyes in disbelief that there's a black man in oslo. >> all right. welcome back. 20 past the hour. time to take a look at the morning papers. "the new york times." this is a big story, whether joe agrees or not. blackwater guards tied to secret raids by cia. security firm is said to have joined fight against iraqi and afghan militants and why do you think we have -- >> and "the wall street journal." goldman blinks on bonuses. the firm's top 30 executives will not receive cash bonuses for 2009, sir. the company is instead handing out stock awards. >> and it's grating. "the washington post." citing just war, obama accepts
peace prize. at a time the u.s. is escalating the war in afghanistan. >> "usa today," palin's thinking is still 2010. she is planning to be a key player in elections. if anybody will actually let her in their states in the general election. >> if you are not going to elect sarah palin in old virginiay, where are you going to let her go. >> the political playbook, the most exciting moment of the morning. take me there. >> let's go to the top, mike allen, here with the playbook. >> happy friday. >> senator john mccain, after his loss in the presidential election, graceful, even polite to the president you could say. but not so much lately. tell us about it. >> no, he's really not. senator mccain is playing a role he hasn't played in a long time.
he's being frankly partisan. he's become, aside from charles krauthammer, president obama's biggest critic. we have a very un-mccain move. he has taped robcalls on five democratic senators. he always prided himself on working across the aisle. >> lindsey graham called him the new de facto leader of the republican party. do you think that's fair? >> come on -- it's safe to remove your hat -- i'm sorry. go ahead. >> don't listen to joe. just keep going. it's okay. >> senator mccain is wisely saying, no, i'm just representing the people of arizona, but he admitted that what he's doing could be seen as partisan and taking a different approach that senator dole did when he lost in 1996.
bob dole did visa commercials, late-night tv. did not criticize president clinton. senator mccabe wants to stay relevant and something consistent is that he's still grumpy. >> let's talk democrats now. charlie rangel. seems like this story flares up and then goes away. this ethics investigation, where does it stand and what does it all mean? >> this is a big, big problem for house democrats. the ethics committee investigation into charlie rangel, one of the most powerful house democrats is going to go well into the mid-term election year. it's already been going on for 14 months. speaker pelosi hoped it would be begun before this. and it makes it much easier for republicans to make the case that the democrats did in 2006 and say the power has gone to their head and there's also a number -- a number of very
serious justice department criminal investigations into handlings of earmarks that could really upset the party. >> it's terrible. >> it will take two years to investigate charlie rangel. >> and he said that he was sloppy. he is not disputing a lot of this. >> you can lose track of caribbean properties very easily. we'll talk to you later in the show, thanks. >> why not just call it like it is. >> if i'm a republican, all i do running in 2010, i show clips of nancy pelosi saying how we're going to be the cleanest congress ever and the republicans were the most corrupt congress ever, and then i show a clip of nancy pelosi standing by the guy that writes tax laws that can't even abide by the laws he passes. this is really bad. >> four words, throw the bums out. that's all they have to do.
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death toll, considered the peak of the fall outbreak. and new york police are looking for a hit and run driver that ran down a nurse outside a hospital. security video captured the car striking the woman when she was in the crosswalk. okay. enough. it's just -- i mean, come on. >> good lord. let's just go to sports now. >> that was just an excuse to show video. >> what's wrong with you, t.j.? >> no, no, no. what's that mean to anybody across the country except they get to see a car accident. >> speaking of car accidents, the pittsburgh steelers, the defending super bowl champions, a few months ago the best team in the world. start the season 6-2 and have lost five in a row, after
getting whacked by the cleveland browns. >> the brownies? >> no tackling on this play for the steelers. josh krebs sets up the 10-yard touchdown run. 13-0 brownies. get this. first rushing touchdown of the season for the browns. week 14. steelers quarterback ben roethlisberger had a terrible game. sacked eight times. >> throw it away. >> here is another one. last play of the game. about to see it. 13-6. steeler has a chance to tie this up. in cleveland territory. fourth down and six. knocked away. browns win 13-6. only second win of the season. steelers have lost five in a row. 6-7 and in deep, deep trouble. >> what's wrong? >> you can't score six points against the cleveland browns? who will get the notre dame job? reports say it will be cincinnati's brian kelly.
he'll be introduced in a press conference in south bend later today and you'll ghe'll get a f contract, replacing charlie weis. he will not coach in the sugar bowl game and some players feel like they've been sold out a little bit. >> i just felt like he did our team an injustice, so hopefully he packed his things up and get to south bend in a hurry so we can focus on the sugar bowl. we have a championship to win. the city of cincinnati, don't worry about nothing. we got you all. with or without b.k., we'll make this happen. >> tough words for brian kelly. they like him in notre dame. a huge success. >> i think notre dame made a big
mistake. i think alabama -- i was complaining when alabama was talking about rich rodriguez and these other people. top program, go to the top. get sabin. i know this guy has a good year or two. but they need a stoopes or urban meyer. >> this is a request. the new york media is crawling with syracuse graduates. including our producer, who is literally forcing me to do this against my will. and syracuse. stay undefeated. they have been good, the orange. scoop jardine, the best name in college basketball. look at this alley-oop play, and thor accident are running. scoop one more time. alley-oop to wes johnson, a
revelati revelation. >> you know what they call that in new york? >> a scoop hoop! a scoop alley-oop. >> no, they do not. i know you like soccer. watch this goalkeeper. he's taking a leak during the game. the action is going on on the field at the other end of the field. he jumps -- this is a professional soccer game. this isn't like bitty kid soccer. he jumps over the wall, takes care of business, hops back out, because the action coming down to his hend. >> that's one of the better goalkeepers in germany. >> pulls up his pants and gets back to business. coming up next, how about this for transition. ron brownstein said it's a bad time for educated white guys. >> i can't believe you just showed that. >> a bad time for educated white men. and must-read opinion pages with mika. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks.
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u.s. president barack obama received his nobel peace prize, including a beautiful medal, a citation, and 60 seconds in the money shower. it was attended by the creme de la creme of society. what is will smith doing there? i guess he's doing the research now, because he figures at some point he'll be playing him. >> welcome back to "morning joe." live from washington, the political director of the atlantic media company and columnist for "the national journal" ron goldstein. you outline the real democrats
for? 2010, and i quote you now -- >> willie geist, a new term added to the political lexicon. i don't know where this beer truck is, but i know there is one around. >> i want to hear about it. >> it's not beer truck, it's beer track. >> not beer goggles either. >> beer track and wine track have been around a while.
and it's usually used to describe the two wings of the democratic party. one that is more blue collar and one more upscale. the best way to think about it. these are divided into three groups. nonwhite voters work a quarter of the electorate. and obama very strong with that in 2008. and approval ratings close to 75%, and democrats will be somewhat insulated from the big storm that may be gathering, and you look at the next two pieces, the white electorate without a college education. tough for democrats, tough for obama. the beer track voters, lost them 2-1, and only 40% of them against john mccain in the general election and they are really sour on where things are going, and his overall approach in gallop, and approval rating among them was only 38%. that say lot of trouble for democrats. you can call them beer track districts, the districts heavily white, somewhat down scale,
interior eastern colorado, tennessee, parts of the narrow south. and by the end of 2010, republicans will probably win a lot of those places. to me, the last piece in the puzzle are these better educated, more affluent whites and they have been trending toward the democrats over the last generation. obama did better among them than blue collar whites. but right now, this has been an unusual egalitarian recession. hurt people at the top as well. not only median income loss, but home prices down, stock prices down and if those voters go south, that really compounds the risk to democrats. right now, joe, they hold 2-1 advantage over the republicans in districts -- in house districts where there is more than the national average of whites with a college education if those places go down with the other ones this could be a much more difficult 2010 campaign. >> mark, the wine trackers have always been democratic. >> right. >> and what i'm hearing around
new york, what i'm hearing from finance people that have never supported a republican before. >> right. they like their wine and. >> they like their wine and they don't relate to sarah palin, and the newt gingrich karl rove republican party. they kr coming up to me saying find me a republican. i want to write a check to somebody who is not crazy. i think democrats, especially this white house, making a big mistake, assuming upscale, wealthy people will always be for them. obama made them feel good in 2008. >> look, with '10 the key for republicans is having candidates come forward. the difference between a good year and a great year, beside what obama does is if leaders can come forward, the wine
drinkers in hahn hmanhattan and elsewhere can feel good about. >> it hasn't happened yet. >> there are some places, like ohio, two guys that are going to be able to capture a lot of the center. if that happens in some of the wine track districts, it could be a great year for republicans. >> having said that it does seem like the president's speech in oslo yesterday has gotten a really good reaction across the board. here is how kathleen parker in "the washington post" describes an american triumph in oslo.
>> hey, ron -- >> yeah. >> obviously a lot of conservatives loved the speech. i don't known that helps the president with his base. what's your take? >> i think pretty much everyone will like that speech. on the one hand, all of the things that kathleen parker said were true. he was really strong in affirming america's unique role in the world and the burden we have borne in the world since world war ii, and trying to achieve world stability. and he also did not back away from his belief that we have to exercise our power in concert with others, and that building alliances and structures, international structures is a key to a stable world in that way, it underscored a core
democratic belief that does depart more from a speech that bush would have given in the same circumstance i would think. i think it was really a master unfortunately kind of statement that does have the potential for having the vision of broad affairs. and it's unlike almost everything we're talking about. >> ron brownstein of the atlantic media company. check his new article in "the national journal." >> thank you, ron. always great to have him. >> yes it is. coming up, a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory. and up next -- from david gregory, we lower the bar. because it's time for willie's week in review. which stories will make the cut? you don't want to miss it. we'll be right back. ♪
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>> stuck, stuck, stuck! >> at number three, the movies come to life. >> just like poor flick in "a christmas story," a middle school student went and got his tongue frozen to a flag pole this week. emergency responders rushed to the scene where they employed the sophisticated medical teak neek of pouring warm water on a frozen tongue. the middle school chemistry teacher might have solved that one, gang. at number two, america goes down the shore. >> i want to marry a guido. my ultimate dream is to move to jersey. find a not, juiced hot guy.
>> i have a tanning bed in my house, that's how serious a guido i am. >> the new jersey state is still reeling from "the real housewives from new jersey." is now dealing with "jersey shore." italian groups had outrage, as guidos and guidettes were featured. >> i think it's a disgrace. >> i think it's derogatory. >> domino's pulled its ads from the show, saying the content was not right for its brand. but they continue to insist that a bacon cheeseburger is right for their brand. >> the show went on this week, despite the protests and the new jersey hall of fame prepared to make room against thomas edison,
frank sinatra, and bruce springsteen for snookie, pauly d and the situation. >> as far as i know, everybody loves the situation, and you don't love the situation, i'll make you love the situation. >> and the number one story of the week -- >> i cannot argue with those who find these men and women far more deserving of the honor than i. >> the white house spent the week apologizing for the award that the wacky norwegians heaped upon him. >> now that we all agree that he doesn't deserve the award, let's go get some hardware. >> the president took his peace prize and then talked about war. >> in the midst of two wars. we are at war. world war ii, the cold war, war, war, war is sometimes necessary. >> in any other year, the nobel
prize would have been the most impressive honor in the nobel family. the first woman was named barbara walters most fascinating person of 2009. >> can we talk about your arms? >> well, certainly. >> the president and first lady were representing the united states with grace and class, the group at the jersey shore was doing the same. we got a preview of "jersey shore." some guy in a bar punching in the face my girl, snookie. she gets lit up in the face next week. you see him get arrested, and that's the least of his problems. because ron ron and the situation, and probably pauly d, they'll be all over the guy. coming up, we'll bring in moderator of "meet the press" david gregory.
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she gets to go to good places. nice travel budget. we'll find out what her story. look how beautiful. very cool. live camera for her. >> we don't have pens in the supply closet, just by comparison of the budgets. literally. >> no complaining. >> no, sir. >> everyone is happy. >> everyone is happy. with us now, national political correspondent, columnist for "new york" magazine, john heilemann. don't you wish you had erin burnett's life. >> it's not a bad life. >> no, it's not. >> rio. >> a great life. we'll be talking about erin burnett's life, we'll talk about rio, the president's speech. so much to talk about. but let's start, mika president inpreside inwith news. blackwater security and the cia had a far closer
relationship than previously known. >> i wish i would have known that. i would have slept better at night. >> that's not funny. >> i'm not trying to be funny. anyone killed in blackwater? at the height of the insurgency in iraq, blackwater guards were participating in almost nightly raids with the cia. one former intelligence official says the contractor became "an extension of the agency." the role of blackwater, now known as z services, is under investigation. >> i want to change my name. just call me z. >> it won't change the problem, but you could try. with their legislative session winding down, senate democrats are considering changing a key aspect -- >> i thought they were going to change their name, because the polls going down. >> that wouldn't work either. they unveiled a proposal to expand medicare to uninsured
americans between 55 and 64 years old. critics of the plan, including leading medical groups say that would increase the number of patients while short changing health care providers. meanwhile, house speaker nancy pelosi is emphasizing just how badly she wants to push the bill through before the holiday break. >> i think we would do almost anything if it meant it would be passed, health care for all americans for the christmas holidays it may be that we can't that we have to do it for sort of a new year's present to the american people. but as soon as we can we will. >> wow. >> okay. an american official says -- no, no, no, no, no. >> i want to talk it looks like they are just winging, john heilemann. we have the public option. this is flutie going back and throwing the ball.
>> i said what do you think the endgame is? and i think it's exactly the same thing that harry reid and nancy pelosi does. what's that? they have no idea how to land this thing on the aircraft carrier. when it comes in, it's going to be a broken play. a bootleg, they have to make it up as they go along. there is no model for how to get where they want to get to. >> they are making it up right now. and the question is, the same people who said they wouldn't support a bill without a public option are now supporting this bill even though there is no public option. >> it is at this point all that anybody cares of in terms of policy here, it's the policy is 60 and 218. anything that gets to 60 and 218, they are happy with. >> hold on a second. war, okay. president for it. >> yep. >> and public option. kind of a bad week for
progressives. an american -- >> john and mark, i mean, they can't be happy about this, right? president goes to get his peace prize and talks about just wars. he ups the ante in afghanistan and now there is no public option. >> if they want different things, they have to put more pressure on. they don't have the votes, they don't have the president's full heart and they don't have the votes if they don't like the outcome, they have to put more pressure on. >> may i move on with news now? finished with your score card? an american official says a united states missile strike has killed a top al qaeda operative in western pakistan. and that drone attack first reported on nbc news on wednesday, although the target was not identified, the official did say it was neither osama bin laden nor his second in command, zawahiri. what are you doing? >> what a surprise.
they always kill the number three guy in al qaeda. seriously. >> the most dangerous job in the world, being the number three guy. >> the number three guy in al qaeda. i swear to god. i'm a conspiracy theorist from way back. i almost think they don't want to kill one and two. as long as they have one and two pinned down where they have them pinned down, they know who the head of al qaeda is. and i'm dead serious. i talked to people inside the agency that suspect this sometimes. the number three guy over there, killed with ruthless efficiency through the years. they always kill the operational guy or jail him. >> would you think as soon as you become the number three guy, would you change your security detail. first thing you do. >> the number three guy, he always dies, and number one and two, sitting and smoking cigarettes somewhere. >> all right. >> i think i'll stay at number four, thank you. >> on with news. police officials say the
five muslim americans picked up earlier this week in pakistan were trying to join militants in the country's tribal region to fight u.s. troops in neighboring afghanistan. pakistani police say those five men will likely be deported. a treasury department report card reveals the obama administration's mortgage relief plan has helped 4% of the nation's struggling homeowners. 4%. 4%. although more than 700,000 people signed up for the program, only 31,000 people received permanent loan modifications. the failure of the plan could impact the recovery of the housing market. >> this is surprising to me, because federal programs are usually run with ruthless efficiency, they said they are going to take care of this problem. this is 4%. not good. >> it's one of the most brutal stories of the day yesterday. and it's interesting i think for a lot of voters. the question is, who is at
fault? is that the government's fault or the bank's fault? and the problem for the obama administration is that people don't see a difference right now the big banks and obama administration are in a lot of voter's minds the same thing. and that's a bad place to be in a place of 10% unemployment and 17% actual unemployment. >> so goldman sachs gives big bonuses to its people, they blame the obama administration. the bailout culture has had a big impact on what this progressive president can and cannot do. >> well, while we're on that topic. public outrage over lavish employee bonuses on wall street appears to have caught up with goldman sachs. the company will not pay 30 top executives cash bonuses for 2009. instead, they will receive restricted stock that must be held for at least five years. even though executives will be excluded from payoffs, the average employee will still
receive a $700,000 bonus, the large nest company history. >> willie geist, i would like to work at goldman sachs, do you know anybody over there? >> i do. i know a few people. >> good guys? >> good guy who's are getting nice houses in the hamptons this year. upgrading. >> while everybody else doing badly, goldman sachs has had a record year. if you can call, i would like a job over there. >> i'll make a call. >> i don't know much about numbers. >> what do they do there? >> what do we do here? i mean -- >> they print money. the funny thing, those stock options, they are saying this is such a sack are f sacrifice. they are still stock options that in five years will be very, very valuable. >> it looks like a pretty good place to work. attorneys say the illinois man accused of secretly filming nude videos of espn reporter
erin andrews will plead guilty to stalking next week. michael barrett, accused of altering hotel peepholes to record the videos and post them online. wait a minute if you're altering a peephole, it means it's already there. that's a problem, isn't it? >> yeah, instead of erin looking out and seeing this guy from illinois, he puts it in there so he can look in. >> but he's standing out in the hall? my god. you guys know the details. >> we're experts on peepholes. gutsy move, maverick. come on. >> he's standing out in the hall. wow. >> up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. now this story. >> a strange man in the hallway drilling holes in guest's doors. >> what are you doing? i'm looking at erin andrews. okay. >> the security, okay. >> he was wearing a maid's outfit. police in new york city are being credited for stopping a
gunman in times square yesterday who opened fire on officers. the suspect was running what they call a common scam, selling cds to tourists when police recognized him from past run- run-ins. he took off and began shooting. police say they are lucky his 30-round machine pistol jammed up after two shots. good god. >> that's a defective pistol. >> merry christmas. "new york post" times square panic. cops blow away machine gun thug. bullets over broadway. i hope they are paying these "new york post" guys. and ho-tiger. i wonder what that one is about? maybe the bronx zoo. >> i don't want to talk about him anymore. >> so he paid for sex with hookers. >> that's an outrage. >> i've been out of country for a while. >> mort zuckerman switched the
stories and went larger with the tiger ho and smaller with the shoot-out. just to keep you posted. >> tabloid wars, when tabloids attack. john heilemann, you write in "new york" magazine. may i read this? >> sure. good point. >> i was wondering, i read "new york" magazine. i was wondering where this article was when george w. bush was president and republicans
were running the senate. >> that's a good point too. >> if i would have been writing that column at that point, i would have written it then. >> oh, bull. >> you are also going to tell me, oh, i'm not a democrat. i'm an independent. >> objective. come on. >> every time i come on here, i face this calamie. last time you said i didn't understand a filibuster because i had been smoking too much dope. >> democrats are being stopped by the filibuster. >> i'm against the filibuster -- i'm against the filibuster in principle. it's bad for america. >> it's a balance, baby. that's the balance. >> i think that's -- >> you get the senate that's -- >> the senate should be able to pass laws, and when there's -- majority rule should largely pervade that body and if they pass laws that the public doesn't like, they can vote that party out the next time out in the elections. >> okay. fine. so look at this. in a head-to-head presidential
matchup. >> that was you dismissing -- >> no, better than the last time. i was called partisan as opposed to a drug addict. >> a look at this 2 2012 politil matchup. mike huckabee trailing president obama by only 1%. >> this is the guy that pardoned the guy that allegedly shot the five people. 45% back huckabee and 46% back obama. wow. what do you think? that's a little surprising. >> you know, mike huckabee does in these beauty matchups, mike huckabee does surprisingly well. he won iowa and then fell apart. he caught the imagination of republicans and democrats in the middle. >> he's benefiting in this space, he's getting very little
scrutiny. the party clemency thing, doing the fox show, and projecting that thing that people like about him, which is his personality. when he gets scrutiny, that number is going to go down. what i think that shows, though, is you could put obama vs. snagglepus, and i think snagglepus would do pretty well. >> we did obama and george bush. check out obama and his predecessor. 44% would prefer to have george bush as their president now. only 50% prefer obama. what does that say? >> he has now alienated probably about 44% of the country. that leaves him a very small margin of error to go and get things done. >> are you surprised by that? >> i am this is a president, president bush that couldn't get above 30% for a while. and it's a 50/44 -- it seems
barack obama, and i agree. i didn't say that. casting his lot complete well nancy pelosi and harry reid has made himself as unpopular as nancy pelosi and harry reid on policy issues. >> i don't disagree with any of that. but it's not surprising if you look at obama's approval rating, it's down by some accounts into the 45, 47, 48% region -- >> still very liked by the american people. >> there's a great divergence. people really like him, really want him to succeed. but if you look at his approval rating on particular issues. on afghanistan, on the economy, on health care, all of them he's below 50% and his disapproval rating is getting up close to 50%. if you look at the numbers, none of these things are surprising. against a generic republican, we're close to a 50/50 nation again. >> mika i think yesterday's speech was an important sfeech
to make, again, if you want to focus on independents. pulling those people back. most americans could look at and cheer. wasn't barack obama apologizing. it wasn't barack obama attacking bush. and the take away also from this is attacking george w. bush in 2010 is not a sure-fire winner. >> it was a big day. the runup to the speech, everyone was mocking it. does he deserve it? it has been erased. >> if i were running in a 2010 primary, i would attack george w. bush and barack obama. >> i love nancy. that's the only one you wouldn't attack, is nancy pelosi. >> coming up, we'll have a full plate of issues to deal with when the president gets home. a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory, whether we come back. and new details about life
behind bars for bernie madoff, including his new nickname from fellow inmates. >> noodle. pumpkin. >> stop it. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good morning, everyone. and happy friday. >> go, bill. >> no, no, no. you go. this is your show, last i checked. >> oh, my gosh. >> bill, you got the weather for us, tell us, what's going on? >> take it. >> i guess i'm not going to the christmas party. windchill forecast, 9 in philadelphia, 9 in new york. areas of the country very frigid. new orleans rain, and southeast gets wet on saturday. warms up a little bit everywhere. california, the stormiest place all weekend long. and sunday looks ugly in the northeast. snow turning over to some rain. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks.
we must begin by acknowledging the hard truth. we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetime. nations may find the use of force not only necessary, but morally justified. >> welcome back to "morning joe." that was an historic speech. >> it really was. >> and going through the story, did you feel the hair? >> i'm feeling your neck. >> did you yesterday -- >> i don't want to hear about this. >> another thing happening right now, just remarkable, it's -- it's been one year this week.
this weekend, that david gregory took over "meet the press," and i think, meek yaikmika, is it sy that he has not only transformed the culture of the news, but the entire world? sort of like the beatles? >> he has transcended. >> a wild year, great year. we'll talk about you more. because make this all about us, in a little bit. but first we'll talk about the speech. do you agree it was an historic speech yesterday? >> i do think it was a remarkable speech. some of the controversy after he first got it the president goes and says essentially i don't deserve this, and by the way, some of the things you celebrate about me are things i will kind of turn on their head and say america has a unique purpose in the world and part of that
purpose is to stand up to evil, call it evil and fight it and defeat it. and we're going to do that, and we're in the course of doing that, and the world needs to rally around that cause. and yet, at the same time, even if the message was one that george w. bush could have delivered, this president i think benefits from and asserts the idea that he's got -- there's a different tone about how he's going to conduct himself on the world stage. how america will conduct itself on the world stage. so he managed these different messages within the same speech, quite effectively. >> david, willie. congratulations to you, sir, on a great year. >> thanks, bud. >> to you think the nobel committee, after what they heard yesterday, and nine days before that speech he was going to send 30,000 more troops to afghanistan, do you think they still would have given him the award? >> that's a good question. i think they would have. if you look at the citation,
some of the things they were honoring about this president. there is likely ideology behind this, of course. but at the same time i think they believe in the fact that this is a president who changes the international discussion by showing up in the room, by recasting america's relationship with allies and others around the world, by following a path of war diplomacy, and yet there are a lot of things that this president is doing that the previous administration did, especially in the second term. diplomatically, and certainly when it comes to escalating wars. so, you know, there are certainly those in europe this morning who are skeptical about the speech he gave, but, again, this was a president who said that america has a unique place and unique purpose in the world. and that is to be a force for good. a force for pursuing peace, but also a force for standing up to threats that cannot be ignored
and implicit in that is perhaps some in the room or throughout the continent might be more likely to take the threats less seriously. so, again, a pretty tough message. >> mark. >> david, happy anniversary. >> thanks, mark. >> do you get the sense that the white house is re-evaluating, with his overall poll numbers, re-evaluating, looking to mange changes? or are they hunkered down and staying the course? >> mark, look, i think what they are focused on is achievement. what they have to get to at some point in the middle of next year is morning again in america. that's the old ronald reagan campaign theme in 1984, and economically he had a reason to make that case, based on the fact that the unemployment rate was coming down. as he got closer and closer to re-election. and i think that's what the theme has got to be for this white house, where are they beginning turn the tide away from the problems they
inherited. he owns them now. now you have to be about solutions. and i really think that's the key. and i think that they want health care so badly, because they just do, and this president needs a tangible legislative achievement and i think they believe i can begin to turn the tide and help him focus on some other issues. bottomline, the dynamic changes when they start to achieve in measurable ways. >> you talk about changes at the white house. let's all just talk here, because we've all heard it. you have not seen reports on it. but i've heard it from so many sources, i don't think this is gossip or rumor or innuendo, a lot of talk about rahm emanuel on the hot seat, that he may not -- he may not make it to mid year elections. mark, let's be honest. have you heard that talk as well around the white house? around capitol hill? >> i think he was reluctant in taking this job to begin with.
>> yeah, that's not really the question, mark. >> well, i'm saying that i'm not sure that he would fight to save his job. i think it's possible that he would say great. >> now, have you been -- john, you guys have sources all over washington, d.c. >> i would say that -- look, he's the architect of so much of the strategy of this year. certainly if health care doesn't work out, his head will be on the block, and he is -- you know, the whole architecture of the strategy of congressional deference we talked about on this program is rahm's strategy. if the president continues on the downward path, historically, chiefs of staff don't last, they go. if you think of the people closest to him, david axlerod, valerie jarrett, they won't take the fall some of rahm emanuel will be a natural target to look
toward. >> how strange that health care could cause rahm his job in two administrations. i'm serious. just for the record, i asked them had they heard the talk that all of us had have heard? all of us have heard and two nonanswers by two men who want access. david gregory, what say you about the talk in washington, d.c. that rahm emanuel may be headed out? >> honestly, joe, i don't know how real that is. there are a lot of circumstances that create a lot of pressure for rahm emanuel there are a lot of pressure points around this president and his overall performance going into an election year. i will say this. rahm emanuel has been a key figure in a first-year legislative strategy who had especially good relationships on the house side and a driving force behind a stimulus bill and health care and the like. i think the second year of this
presidency takes on a different color, because it's going to be less likely that major legislation can be accomplished in an election year, so the role changes in terms of rahm emanuel's signature strengths in dealing with capitol hill. >> this weekend who is your big guest? >> we'll focus on jobless recovery and if that's where the country is going. christie romer, a top executive adviser to the president. alan greenspan, jim cramer, and governors granholm and romney to talk about where the jobs are. >> that's a big show. david gregory, thank you so much and congratulations on a great first year, first of many to come. >> thank you so much. >> i would be surprised if rahm survives. >> really? >> yeah. it's not working. it's not working for him, and, again -- >> administration -- >> they tied their hands with
the lobbying restrictions, which i think is a horrible mistake. i will say now what i said a year ago. you need somebody like tom daschle who knows washington, d.c., that knows how democrats win in red states. as tom did for years, and it's not as hard edged. he's a progressive as you know. they need a washington hand in the white house. they fired -- you know what? >> i would go back to guergins. find somebody who knows washington, d.c. you know, they basically lynched the last one. the one insider they had, they got rid of. >> oh, that was -- what caused the mystery lights in the sky over norway? and no, it had nothing to do with the changs we've been waiting for. and the summer olympics in rio a little under seven years away. live pictures of rio.
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joe." >> beautiful shot of the upper west side. >> sun coming up over new york city. 34 minutes past the hour. time for a look at some of today's top stories. president obama due back in washington this afternoon after accepting the nobel peace prize in oslo yesterday. the president will likely jump right back into his domestecono agenda. democrats are still trying to cement a compromise that would replace a public option with a nationwide private plan. 50 million americans, one-sixth of the country, has caught the swine flu since april, with increasingly deadly results. almost 10,000 people have died of the virus. a significant jump from numbers released just last month the spike in cases reflects november's death toll, considered the peak of the fall outbreak. and turns out there is an explanation for the mysterious spiral light seen over the skies
of norway wednesday. you can blame it on the russians. it was caused apparently by the failed launch of a test missile. a launch that moscow initially denied are shocking. i looked into the eyes of putin and seen his soul. he's not a liar. >> not a liar. >> a sweetheart. >> a sweet man. >> sweet, sweet. >> ever seen him without his shirt on? boy. one hot fly fisherman. palin, vladmir putin. they can -- i'm sorry. go ahead. what's next? >> up next, the president of the council of foreign relations. he said this may have been a nobel peace prize speech. but the u.s. president is no pacifist, and the daily beast. we'll be right back. ♪ great, experts.
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of course, the all-europeanian audience was totally pro-bama. watch them react to the first half of the first sentence of his speech. >> citizens of america, and citizens of the world. >> that guy's crewing already. either that, or he's rubbing his eyes in disbelief that there's a black man in oslo. >> wow. okay. here with us now, welcome back to "morning joe." 39 past. contributing editor for the daily beast, and in political richard writes this --
>> richard haass. mr. mead from the council of fovrn relations, said if george bush delivered this speech, he would have been skewered. but not so with barack obama. >> it's always good to go against type in a place you don't expect it. it would be the equivalence of going to the afl/cio convention and giving a speech on free trade. >> could you explain to people viewing this, just how unpopular his word has to be with that crowd yesterday? >> the nobel prize group, is the extreme version, the distillation of european culture which is pretty much pacifist. it tends to have a fairly strong
anti-american default option. >> they don't believe in a just war? >> only in the most narrow exceptions of self-defense and barack obama had a more expansive view of legitimate use of military force. the fact that he came there days after he gave the afghanistan speech, again, brought resonance to that. i don't think this is probably what they bargained for. i think the people on the peace prize committee saying next time we have to do more due diligence. >> this is the person they elected. some might argue we maybe have lost sight of him a little bit of late. >> he was never the liberal icon that a lot of people accused him of being. he was quite robust about the use of american military force when necessary and in this speech he was very good about not giving us a theological lesson from st. august ine.
i would have liked him to have spoken a little more about the conflict raging in the middle east. what's going on in the israeli/palestinian territories or what's going on in iran. considering his audience, i think he did a marvelous job. >> consider the audience. i mean, richard, it sounded -- he sounded with a defiant tone when he basically said it's american blood and american bullets for the past 60 years which have kept you free. >> there is a concept in this field known as global commerce. that you do things for the global good. and it tends to be discounted. all this u.s. military presence, u.s. aid, diplomacy, creates the context, which in a funny sort of way gives them the luxury to sit there and complain about us. and it's a healthy reminder, we
have been an enormous force for good. whatever mistakes we have made, history would have turned out incomparably worse if the united states has not taken the lead in the world all these decades. >> this was barack obama channelling -- you won't remember this, i understand it. but jack nicholson. you need me on that wall, you want me on that wall. basically you can sit around in your cocktail parties. >> and it was stunning that -- >> make no mistake. this was also a speech intended i think primarily for a domestic audience. he understood all of america was watching this, so this was a speech to us, far more so than it was to the nobel committee. >> the different levels of the stories we cover, the one thing we talk about a lot is the optics. doesn't this erase the optics of
him b bowing, and the other optics? >> i'm not one that's offended by that. i love the fact that a strong ronald reagan followed jimmy carter, perceived as weak across the globe. i like a deferential president followed by president george w. that being said this was good politics at home for barack obama. >> all i could think of during the entire thing is dick cheney sitting at home watching this speech. this shut dick cheney up. >> he is probably saying bully. he loved it! >> he has found something to complain about every time barack obama has gotten on "air force one." >> i will say, though, americans don't like to hear their president going across the globe apologizing. americans believe in american
exceptionalism. this rung true to americans a lot more than his u.n. speech. >> but it had some important points for americans. it said to people on the right, you don't like me talking to bad guys, so-called engagement. ronald reagan and richard nixon did it to good effect and your foreign policy is too amoral. you're not talking about what's going on in iran or burma. he tried to split the difference almost between bush 41 and bush 43. the idea was to thread the needle between narrow realism and i dealism. not go as far as his predecessor. he won't be invading countries to promote democracy. but he wanted to go beyond pinched, narrow, realism. to good effect. >> he has had two remarkable speeches this year. one in cairo, one yesterday. >> that's a really good point,
joe, but now it's time to make good on the prom promises emben both speeches. this prize was meant to encourage his internationalist view of the world, and hopefully considering the positive response that he's gotten on the right and left this will give him the political room to do so. >> may give him some breathing room. it's a rough year. the axis of evil as george w. bush called it. have not played ball. just like roosevelt couldn't charm stalin at yalta, barack obama is not charming the bad guys. >> the appears is it hasn't been reciprocated. the north koreans aren't responding. the iranians may have gotten worse. >> it hasn't been reciprocated, but it is working. the internal conflicts in forth
korea and iran is the result that they don't have a president to demonize and rally against. so it is working. it's a slow process, but it's working. >> we'll continue this conversation in a few minutes with "the washington post's" eugene robinson. he has an interesting op-ed this morning. up next -- >> wait a minute. it is an op-ed on "jersey shore?" he did it on tiger last week. >> we're not talking about tiger. >> is this a tiger-free zone? >> we're raising the bar to "jersey shore." >> i stopped keeping store when i >> it's a triple bogey. >> up next, "jersey shore" packs a punch. the shocking scene that has more people calling for boycotts of the mtv reality show. straight ahead in "the cooler." >> is willie going to talk about
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that music really puts me in the mood, willie, for the cooler. >> it is time for "the cooler." we're going to get into -- >> it's like porn music. is that what they play in porn. >> corn? >> pay attention! get off the blackberry. we're not talking about corn. >> we have an e-mail we want to start the segment with about bill karins. >> we were giving him a hard time earlier this morning. this e-mailer says, bill karins rolls and the guy who gets locked in a trunk or thrown in a dumpster by the jocks or the cool guys all the while laughing because he knows it's going to happen again. >> oh, that's not true. look, there's bill karins. >> what did joe call him this morning? >> he's so adorable. >> floating high above central park. >> bill?
bill? i think he might be mad. >> we just broke a young man's heart. >> i think joe went over the line. >> let's talk about tiger woods' mistresses. >> can we say it? >> don't say it. >> jaimee jungers, she's one of the alleged mistresses of mr. tiger -- >> i don't want to hear what she has to say. she said she had an affair with tiger -- >> so she's being propped up. >> and in the setup piece, she describes some of the relationship. >> it was pretty wild. one thing led to another and the next thing you know, i was sleeping with tiger woods. it wasn't like boring married couple sex. it was fun and exciting. >> no, mm mm, just stop. >> she said she was in love. >> you guys -- >> you know she's an honorary
chairman of mensa. >> there's so many layers of trashy behavior going on here and it involves everybody involved with telling this story. >> speaking of trashy behavior, have you seen the mtv show "jersey shore." it's the most excellent television program there is, after all. well, week two, last night, we had a new episode. angelina left the house, it was terrible, she didn't want to work at the t-shirt shop. but in the tease, snooky, one of the young women living in the house was punched by a guy at a bar, punches in a face by a guy at a bar. people are very upset that mtv showed this. let's watch this. >> wow, snooky.
>> she got laid out there at the bar. the good news is here she's got some beef cakes in the house, they're probably going to take care of that guy. you've got your ron-ron, pauley d., vinnie, and your the situation. >> snooky got clocked. >> she got laid out. apparently, the guy who punched snooky is a gym teacher at a high school in new york city. >> and a class act. >> and a class act. punching women in the face. one more for you here, bernie madoff, "wall street journal's" got a great piece below the fold on the front page about life behind bars for bernie madoff. he was arrested outside his apartment one year ago today, locked up for that big ponzi scheme. we're hearing that the correctional facility in north carolina where he's staying, he is called the godfather and the don. there's a grudging respect for bernie madoff in the jail. they like the man. one artist even had bernie madoff sit for a portrait so he could paint a portrait of bernie
madoff. we're told that large crowds gather around bernie madoff, because many of the inmates suspect he has money hidden somewhere. they're trying to cozy up to learn of its location and they also wanted his signature to sell on ebay, so he's not signing anything anymore, because people are trying to sell his autograph, bernie madoff, 150 years in jail, but apparently he's a big celebrity where he is. >> seriously? >> it's nice that he landed on his feet. that's sweet. >> you shouldn't call it "the cooler." you should call it everything that is wrong with this country. seriously. everything. >> i love the "jersey shore". >> i don't even know where to begin with a young girl -- >> you don't like jamie jungers. >> is there not a recall for a reality show -- >> coming up next, "the
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peace prize to president obama, and wouldn't you know it, something weird happens. take a look. see, there. why are they there? the salahis. >> there they are. >> welcome back to "morning joe." that was weird, mika. >> that was weird. >> can't get them in front of congress, but they go everywhere with this president. >> they're very shy, don't want any spotlight, no, not us. kind of shy. >> what a huge hour we have ahead. >> can't wait. >> richard haass with us and -- >> willie geist from the "jersey shore." great to have you here. >> i'm mad at you. >> and associate editor for "the washington post," i want to start, quick tease, what was your thoughts on the president's speech yesterday? >> i thought it was a fabulous
speech. as an exercise in rhetoric, that's not on easy thing to bring up, to accept the nobel peace prize right after you've escalated a war in afghanistan and sent 30,000 more troops. and i thought, it was one of his best speeches as president. i still have some questions about the policy, but the speech was terrific. and of course, he had sarah palin supporting him. he had -- i mean, my gosh, newt gingrich supporting him. "national review" saying nice things about him. gee, that's got to cause you some crave concerns. >> no, it doesn't. if you listen to what barack obama said from when he started running for president with, he talked about the concept of just war and he wasn't a pacifist and we needed a fight in afghanistan. i don't think this was some sort of new revelation that he has come to. i think people made assumptions about his views about war and
peace that were not born out by what he actually said. >> all right. eugene, stand by. let's get a quick check of the headlines. according to this morning's "new york times," private blackwater contractors hired for security purposes in iraq and afghanistan often took a far more active role in cia operations, including missions to capture or kill militant fighters. at the height of the iraqi insurgency, "the times" reports blackwater guards were participating in sensitive raids virtually every night. former employees say contractors were also on board secret cia flights, transporting detainees following the 9/11 attacks. a cia official says the role of blackwater now known as "z" services was within u.s. law. just days after announcing a tentative compromise on health care legislation, senate democrats are now considering changing a proposal that would expand medicare coverage to uninsured americans between 55
and 64 years old. it comes amid criticism from leading medical groups that the plan would increase the number of patients while paying health care providers less than private insurers. meanwhile, house speaker nancy pelosi is emphasizing just how badly she wants to push the bill through before the holiday break. >> i think we would do almost anything, if it meant it would pass health care for all americans for the christmas holidays. it may that we can't, that we have to do it as a new year's pregnant to the american people. an official says a united states missile strike has killed a top al qaeda operative in western pakistan. that drone attack was first reported by nbc news on wednesday. although the target was not identified, they did say it was not osama bin laden or his second in command, al zawahiri.
meanwhile, the taliban were trying to fight troops. those five men will likely be deported. and according to the treasury department, the obama administration's mortgage relief plan has helped just 40% of the nation's struggling homeowners. 4%. although more than 700,000 people signed up for the program, only 31,000 received permanent loan modifications. many homeowners say government bureaucracy and lost paperwork by their mortgage companies are adding to the delays. >> gene robinson, my gosh. >> that's a disaster. >> in these tough times, that's a disaster. >> that really is. and i don't know what the reason is or excuse is. that program is designed to help all these people isn't getting through to them. i wonder if the banks are being
given the right incentives, carrots or sticks to do the modifications. but clearly something's really wrong with that program. >> 4%, mika. >> we will follow that. executives at goldman sachs can expect a smaller payday as wall street continues to face outrage over lavish employee bonuses. the company says it will not pay its top 30 employees cash bonuses for 2009. instead, they'll receive restricted stock that must be held for at least five years. even though executives will be excluded from payouts, the average employee will still receive a $700,000 bonus, the largest in company history. not bad. an illinois man -- >> hey, willie's from illinois. >> no, no, no. >> this is a story about willie geist. go aheaded. an illinois man will plead guilty to stalking next week after secretly filming nude videos of espn reporter erin andrews and posting them online. michael barrett is accused of a
lot eraltering hotel peepholes. i still don't understand how he's hanging outside a doorway doing this. >> willie geist, on the erin andrews desk. what did this guy do. >> he drilled through the peephole where the person inside the room can see out, reversed it so he could see in. held up a video camera and shot some videos that were flying around the internet. pretty disgusting stuff. >> that peephole was invented by the geist family. patented. >> doesn't anyone see him in the hall? >> richard haass, your thoughts on -- >> no, we're not going there. what's wrong with you? >> a lot. officials in new york city say police shot and killed a man after a gun battle erupted in times square yesterday outside
the landmark marriott hotel. he took off when asked to provide i.d. and began shooting. they're lucky his 30-round machine pistol jammed up after two shots. >> seems like an intense thing to do just for selling cds. i mean, it's copyright, fringeright, i think the guy could have beaten the wrap. >> horrible story. in his new article today, eugene robinson explains what yesterday's nobel speech really tells us about the president. he says, "president obama accepted the nobel for peace making by delivering an eloquent, often grim treatise on the nature and necessity of
warfare. anyone will see that although obama did not set out to be a war president, he has accepted his fate." eugene, i take it -- were you surprised, actually, at all, at the balance that he struck and how far he went in the setting w where he was making this speech? >> i was a bit surprised. first of all, i thought he would give one of his special speeches. i was a little surprised that he actually gave us a whole history of warfare, starting from the dawn of history to the present day. very difficult thing to pull off, that much sweep and context. but, of course, there was a very specific context for the speech, and that's afghanistan. and he went in to the lion's den, really, to explain why he
was waging war in the larger interest of peace. he didn't exactly slay them in oslo. it's not as if they was being interrupted -- >> but, he wasn't delivering this speech for oslo, was he? he was delivering this speech for peoria. >> yes, i think it was more peoria than oslo, but he wanted, especially nato allies, such as norway to pay attention. because he made a very strong stand in insisting that, look, this is not just a u.s. problem. this is the world's problem and we need your contribution, like those 7,000 additional troops that nato was promising. let's get them in there. >> and richard haass, with the cf-4, sent a very clear message. don't know what you gis on this
side of the pond think, but we are experiencing the end of history. a lot of evil still out there, help us in the fight. >> it was a big message, because europe is so parochial, and it is a wonderful place. compare europe with the 21st century to the 20th century where europe was the center of history. the problem is that european attitudes and mind-sets have changed so much that they at times forget that the rest of the world is not post-history europe. and they can't project, if you will. and as a result, the united states often does not have a partner anymore in europe. and that's a real change for american foreign policy. >> john highlyman, we know it will play in peoria. how will it play on the upper east side? >> joe, there's only one person at this table that lives on the upper east side, and that's you. >> willie too. >> back in the days when you were a government official, there used to be a concept much discussed, burden sharing.
where the question was, how do we get to europe to pay for of of its own self-defense. whatever happened to burden sharing. we don't to be that anymore, although i don't think things changed as to how ponies up. >> the desire to get the extra 7,000 europeans into afghanistan is a form of burden sharing, to get them to do it. europe spends a lot of defense. the problem is, each country has their own defense budget and the whole is less than its parts. the sum total of european defense efforts is quite insignificant with the exception really of britain and france. >> all right. haass, thank you very much. coming up next, senator evan bayh, who's meeting with the vice president later today about spending and that whole deficit ceiling thing. also, why republicans are looking forward to working this
weekend. it's topping the politico playbook this morning. and can rio handle the olympics? it's seven years away, but -- >> but erin got down to rio to report on it. >> god, she's good. >> she is. >> i have got to talk to her. >> advance recon. >> international superstar erin burnett will join us live from rio to cover the story. >> you know, it's summer down there. plus, the gift that keeps on giving. every friday, willie's week in review. which of these stories -- oh, no, no, bill doesn't make the cut. which of these stories will make the cut? all right. now let's go to bill karins with a quick check on the forecast. bill? >> yes, mom, i won't let them bully me anymore. yes, okay, mom, i'll make you proud. >> okay, you know what -- he's calling his mommy. >> oh, mommy. >> let's pick him up and throw
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welcome back to "morning joe"! with us know from washington, d.c., mika, i'm so excited. >> i'm excited. >> democrat from india -- india -- >> what?! >> i don't know when we gave india senators, but i think it's about damned time. oh, wait, the teleprompter says indiana. senator evan bayh. later this morning, senator bayh will be meeting with vice president biden to discuss -- oh, wait, wrong prompter, washington's spending increase. this is all fine and well. we're only talking about the future of our kids, grandkids, and inflation where we're buying bread with money in wheel
barrows. but let's talk about important things. notre dame, it looks like notre dame has a coach. it looks like it's going to be a guy named kelly to coach the irish. it seems like an appropriate name, but is this a good approach, senator, for your home state? >> well, i hope so, joe. with his nationality, as you point out, he ought to fit right in with the fighting irish, but he's going to have his work cut out for them. they lost their quarterback and star receiver to the nfl here early. so it's a storied program. they can recruit nationally. they play a great schedule. so i hope he'll be the answer. because notre dame without a successful football team, there's something not right about that. >> what's happened over the -- we heard that after holtz left, recruiting standards went up high and it's hard to compete with other colleges at that level. is that right? >> there's some of that. what i'm hearing from some people, while charlie weiss was
a great offensive mind, he was used to coaching in the nfl and not used to nursing young players. he was not attuned to that part of the game. coach kelly coming out of college, presumably, is used to doing that. >> that will help an awful lot. you've got to be able to go into the living rooms and convince mom and dad that you're going to take care of their kid for the next four years. all right. let's talk about -- i was reminiscing yesterday how i voted against an increase in the debt ceiling to $6 trillion just a decade ago. now, my god, we're going up to $14 trillion. senator, americans are getting nervous. >> joe, the public is weigh ahead of washington on this one. they know we can't keep maxing out the national credit card the way we have. and we've now bumped up against the ceiling on the credit card. so some of us are going to insist before we raise the debt limit, we get real reform.
so business as usual in washington, it's just broken down. so we're going to insist that before we raise the debt limit, we got some credible reasons to believe that we're going to do better in terms of getting this deficit under control. because as you have pointed out repeatedly, it's not only bad economics, but it's deeply unfair to our children who will ultimately one day have to pay off all these bills. >> yes, they will. >> so it seems to me over the past decade, because i'm a nerd, as you know, i've written books about this, this is all i've talked about. >> he has. >> you start talking about and people's eyes glaze over. >> not anymore. >> not anymore. this is a real political issue for democrats, isn't it? >> it is. >> the public really gets it and at a time when people are trying to make sacrifices and hard choices in their personal lives, people look to washington and it's just spending three, four, five times the rate of inflation. some of that you need to do to try and prop up demand during a weak economy.
but all the earmark spending, all the just spending on autopilot for stuff directly related to not getting the economy going, we can't afford that and we break faith with the american people. i'm hopeful, i've talked to the president about this, i think he wants to step up, but it would be a nice domestic parallel to the speech he gave in oslo where he showed that our president can be strong and forceful in an uncertain world. we need to bring that same sense of resoluteness to tackling our forces. >> the only way to do that is to cut entitlements, right? >> so what's the chance that in an election year, republicans are going to give the president a dramatic bipartisan victory and that liberals in the house would cut social security or medicare? it seems to me the chances are nil. >> well, that's right. and that's one of the reasons that we have structured this proposal to establish the commission, make it a streamlined process so you can't filibuster in the senate, you can't propose amendments to its
final conclusions. it has to be voted on. and here's the key. it has to be voted on after november, up or down on the final recommendation. so you kind of take the politics out of it by doing that, but you're right. one of the things we're hearing about and the vote coming up, and there are members of my own party that kind of like the way things are, they like the spending. on the other side, they would ordinarily be inclined to go along with something like this, but they sort of figured out that allowing democrats to be a little bit fiscally responsible may help us in the election, so they may vote against something that ordinarily they'd be for. you've got all this dysfunctional politics going on. enough already. the future of the country is at take. but it's difficult. to answer your question directly, it's difficult. that's one of the reasons we wanted the vote after the election to take all that stuff out there. >> senator bayh, thank you very very much. we appreciate your being on the show this morning. >> thank you, senator. >> have a good day. >> go, irish. willie? >> let's go back down to
washington to mr. mike allen. let's take a look inside your playbook. we've been playing a clip this morning of nancy pelosi saying she still believes they can get health care before the end of the year. now i understand republicans want to dig in a little bit and work weekends. could that be? >> they do. and they caught the senate majority leader, harry reid, who had promised the white house, forget about the country, promised rahm that he was going to work every weekend in order to try and get it done ahead of this christmas deadline. on wednesday, everybody was a little surprised. harry reid came out and his works on the floor indicated they might have the weekend off. and it might have been happened, but then republicans discovered, if that was so that senator reid could go to louisiana to do a fund-raiser for mary landrieu, this is part of the louisiana purchase, probably, you can bet he's going to do it some time. but for now, they're going to
stay in d.c. harry reid knows that he needs to make it look like that he's done everything to get it done before christmas. >> and mitch mcconnell says he's going to keep his guys in town this weekend too, right? >> that's right. he's not too psyched about health care, but he does enjoy putting harry reid on the griddle. >> harry reid on the griddle. hmm. >> i love the way he puts these things. >> so, mike, is nancy pelosi crazy saying she wants to get something done by the end of the year? >> well, she may want to get something done. if you count the days, it seems very difficult how you would get it throughout house and the senate. what they're talking about doing is taking the senate bill, move it over to the house, don't do a formal conference committee, make some changes and send it back. they're call it ping, pong, ping. nothing happens as soon as we think. >> mike allen, thanks so much. have a great weekend. we'll be checking out the playbook at politico.com.
thanks, mike. >> thanks. >> harry reid on the griddle. >> if you go on to the denny's on the strip in vegas and order two eggs overeasy, they call back, harry reid on a griddle. up next, a check on business before the bell. erin left the new york stock exchange in search of some good economic news. and maybe some sun. >> and she's going to tell us why she's really in brazil coming up on "morning joe."
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there's a shot of new york city where it's 20 -- what's that? >> oh, it's freezing out. >> i'm wearing my daughter's uggs this morning. you know, those boots? >> we slept into work. anyway, international superstar, erin burnett, not in new york city this morning. >> oh, my god. >> because she really is an international superstar. she is in rio de janeiro, 84 degrees there right now. >> where is she? >> there she is. in search of what -- of some good economic news. i suggest she's just in suggest of a good beach and cnbc's paying for it this morning. >> erin, to what man did you pitch this story, seriously? >> reporter: you guys, i mean, is it any surprise to you now why brazil's economy is doing so well and growing so quickly. it looks like this here. and like you have in the u.s. so maybe that's why. okay, so you know what's interesting --
>> i don't mind. >> -- there's good news out of china this morning that's causing -- you hear me? china's one of the bricks. brazil, russia, india, and china. over the past 18 months, we've come to all four of them to figure out what the gross story really is and brazil was the last economy to fall to the financial crisis and apparently the first one out. gdp numbers were a little bit disappointing, but earlier this week they said they had record hiring in the month of november. and do you know who's hiring in brazil? general motors. general motors is hiring. >> why's that? >> yeah. it's an interesting story. we're going to have the head of gm on. and the story here is you've got the biggest oil find in 30 years in this hemisphere right off the coast, a couple hundred miles in the salt caps from where we are right now in the coast of rio. you obviously have this huge ethanol economy, 100 million people in what you're calling the middle class and that's the gross story. we're trying to find out if it's
in a bubble or not. you know the guy who founded jetblue airlines? he actually served his mission for the church of latter day saints down here. and he came back -- >> i did too. >> he just turned 50, , jetblue and founded an airline here. >> i think this is a noble effort to fund a trip to rio. the pop alone. you pop off that shot, see rio in the background and i want to go and invest in rio myself. >> reporter: i want you guys to know something. >> yes. i want to know something too, tell me. >> reporter: what? what's your breaking news, willie? you want to know what they're wearing on a beach back here? >> here's real news, erin. i know you've been waiting for these numbers. congress department says total retail sales increased 1.3% last month, largest rise since august. >> reporter: oh! >> what does that mean to you, erin? >> that's way better than
expected too, willie. the expectation was for a rise of 7/10 of a percent, that's twice as strong as expected. obviously, i don't have the wires in front of me, so i can't break it down. >> no, you've got like mango juice in front of me. h h >> reporter: hey, one thing i want to tell you. you see the mountains, the s skyscrapers, and then that shackville. that's a slum. we were last night trying to find a drug lord in one of these slums. a lot of them are ruled by drug lords. and one of the interesting things i found out is they get all of this money, brazil's the second largest consumer of cocaine in the world, but it's not organized crime in the sense you would think of the mafia. so they'll do things like gold plate their ak-47s with the money. but they live in places like that and that particular slum last week was raided by the rio police and is now run by the police. but it's a
neighborhood-by-neighborhood battle. 30% of this city is slums like that. that's a significant part of the business story here. crime and rule of law are a big question. and maybe a bigger concern than the market actually has given it credit for this year. >> in all seriousness, erin, we look forward to you reporting from rio. enough, boys. thank you very much, erin. you're doing a great job. >> reporter: even in the rain yesterday, there were men clad in speedos yesterday, on the beach, even in the rain. >> oh, yummy. i'm going to rio. >> yummy? >> reporter: bye, guys. >> i just got the worst image in my mind. >> there's like a 17 1/2 second delay between manhattan and rio. anyway, erin, of course, does squawk on the street and she's going to have this -- seriously, brazil is an up and comer, a lot of people talk about it, we need to understand brazil and we all need to visit there in december. coming up next, our political roundtable -- what's
that, willie? >> she said brazil, bragging, number two, united states is the number one consumer of cocaine in the world. >> usa! >> there are a lot of reasons for that. >> take that, brazil. coming up next, we've got if header of "the new york times." sam tannin haus. stick around on "morning joe." i'm george duran and this is the hunt's crash kitchen tour. what are we making? penne pasta with eggplant, chicken, and tomato. these tomatoes are not my favorite. this, my friends, is what i am bringing to the table. do you trust me? uh... hunt's flashsteams every tomato to keep that backyard garden fresh taste. get your hands out of there now. you're very lucky that it came out this good. isn't it time to take a fresh look at your tomatoes?
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york times". >> been so long. >> sam tanenhaus. >> how exciting. >> great to have you on. >> great to be back. >> sam, week in review, what's in it. >> well, you didn't go there, did you? >> no. he wouldn't write about tiger. it's "the new york times". >> hey, that's why it's me writing about tiger. if anybody can take tiger woods and take all the sex and fun out of it, i'm your guy. i'm going to do a little thing on celebrity. this is the 50th anniversary, maybe you guys will remember, i'd be surprised because i just stumbled on it, of a book called "the celebrity register" that cleveland aimry put together. it took him five years and it replaced who's who, the idea that all that merited in american society was celebrity. >> being a celebrity. i can make anything boring. >> what was that moving where they had sex education and everyone kept falling asleep. >> "the meaning of life."
>> i think it was. what else do you make boring in the week in review? >> everything they touch, joe. everything they touch. >> why do i like reading it so much? >> you thought oslo was boring, we'll give you copenhagen and climate change. we'll do a piece on how obama wants to make all this change happen internationally, he can't even do it at home. he can't get the senate to go along on emissions. so john broder who has been writing about the environment is going to do that for us. >> a lot of complaints, mainstream media not covering these hacked e-mails. "the times" followed there. you guys wrote something about it, "the post" did last week too. it's amazing that how that on top of all these other things are now showing a pew poll that shows more americans skeptical of climate change. >> it is interesting, well, the e-mails had a lot to do with it. and there's the idea, you think of scientists of being so purely
rational and detached, but they have agendas too. sometimes they present their case with agendas, but it doesn't mean the case isn't strong, but they're looking to make a case. leave it to "the times." not tiger, but sex messages. >> sexting. >> that's what all the kids are doing. >> in the book review -- let's hope not -- "half broke horses." >> what we did, yep, this week we have our list of the ten best books of the year. which is a ridiculous enterprise, because there are about 50 number 11s, but mika, it will interesting you to know that this, in fiction, is the year of the woman. four of our five fiction winners are women. >> wow. how fabulous. >> it's interesting, because publisher's weekly caught some flak and they put out a list of the greatest books and none of them by waem. >> the first jeanette walls book
i read was hers. >> it's become very difficult for memoirs now to maintain that distinction between what's invented and what actually happened. she decided to follow the fiction route writing about her grandma. >> tell us about "lords of finance." >> this is a book that ought to be better known. "the new yorker" put it on itself list, one of the best of the year. it is a picture of the sort of economic and financial tycoons after world war i who created this big economy that took the same kind of nosedive ours did in the '90s and the early 2000s. it's written by a guy, no one had heard of him, he's an investment banker. but he wrote this incredible narrative. a really fine book. >> and "the good soldiers." >> i think i've mentioned this. >> one of your favorites. . >> yeah. this is best thought of as a compliment to dexter filkins'
great book on iraq. because what david finkel has done is follow one small group of soldiers from ft. reilly, during the surge, average age, 19 years old. >> and "lit," a memoir. >> when frank mccourt died, he got all the props for being the great american memoirist. but mary karr was right there with him in the liar's club. in this new installment after her life story, she tells how she gave up the bottle and found religion. >> maybe you won't like this book after all. >> not quite understanding the joke there. >> i thought writ was a -- >> a sneak peek of the front cover of "the new york times," the ten best books of 2009. >> great stuff in there. >> we look forward to reading
the week in review. >> i'll make it boring. don't worry. >> no, you won't. >> i'll make you feel high minded when you're reading about sexting. that's my job. >> that's why you read it. >> it's electrifying, every single word. >> all right, sam tanenhaus, thank you very much. up next, a very different kind of week in review, "morning joe" style. willie will share which stories make the cut next. keep it right here on "morning joe," brewed by starbucks.
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tanenhaus and the smut agents at "the new york times" to focus on the tawdry details of the tiger woods scandal. you won't find tiger in our highbrow top three stories of the week. >> stuck, stuck, stuck! >> at number three, the movies come to life. >> we have a student that stuck their tongue on the flagpole. >> really? >> not joking. >> just like poor flick in "a christmas story," a middle school student in washington state went and got his tongue frozen to a flag pole this week. >> okay. so you want an ambulance or -- >> well, fire department, maybe. >> emergency responders rushed to the scene where they employed the sophisticated medical technique of pouring warm water on a frozen tongue. >> i just thought that was something you saw on the news. >> well, i'm sure they watched a movie. >> at number two, america goes
down the shore. >> i want to marry a guido. >> i've got a tanning bed in my place. >> the garden state still reeling for its portrayal in "the real housewives of new jersey" suffered another setback when the world was exposed to the "jersey shore". >> everybody loves me, babies, dogs, hot girls, cougars. >> italian-american groups expressed outrage this week at the new mtv reality show that has self-proclaim canned guidos talking about tanning and hair gel. domino pizza pulled its ads from the show, saying the content was not right for its brand. domino's continued to insist, however, that a bacon
cheeseburger pizza is right for their brand. the show went on this week, despite the protests, and the new jersey hall of fame prepared to make room next to thomas edison, frank sinatra, and bruce springsteen for snooki, pauli d., and the situation. >> as far as i know, everybody loves the situation, and if you don't love the situation, i'll make you love the situation. >> and the number one story of the week. >> i cannot argue with those who find those men and women to be far more deserving of this honor for i. >> the white house spent the week apologizing for the nobel peace prize the president has inflicted upon him by a group of wacky norwegians. >> now that we all agree that he has no business getting the award, let's go get some hardware. >> with will smith and wyclef looking on in oslo and that norwegian lady slow clapping in the front row, the president took his peace prize and then
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welcome back. joe and gang here again. we're so excited you could be us here this morning. willie, let's talk about what we learned today. >> i've got to show you a piece of video just coming into from our news desk. this is from a new orleans saints fan who bet against his own team. he said, if the saints beat the redskins, you can come to my house and blow up my 60-inch tv. the saints did beat the redskins, so people from
louisiana started showed up at his home. this guy ran his head through the 60-incher and then out came the assault rifles. >> do we have the assault rifles? >> god, i love the sound -- >> mccain with their assault rifles. >> mark, what did you learn today? >> that willie says things on this show which i do not understand. i think they're code. >> like what? >> like his whole obsession with the jersey reality show. i don't understand it when he talks about it. >> about snooki. >> nothing he says penetrates my head. >> here, watch this. here's snooki getting jacked in seaside heights. that guy will pay, trust me. >> a guy -- snooki's a girl. >> but her boy, ron-ron will come in later. >> this is what i'm talking about. what is he saying? >> you know, i have never really wanted to be someone else until -- other than you -- until
today. i want to be erin burnett. >> yes! i understand. >> could i just be in rio doing, like hanging out with gold-plated ak-47s and snorting cocaine. that's all she's doing down there. it's like, what a job! what a job! >> what i don't understand is, on this side of the river -- see, she's prepping for the show. on this side of the river, we ask for pencil sharpeners, and they literally tell us, you can chew it. that's why god gave you teeth -- over there, she goes to iceland, rio, moscow. i can't wait until comcast comes and just squeezes. we'll see. be in rio next year, baby. >> in about an hour on the radio, i get to spend more time with you, you, and you. >> yay! >> oh, that's good news? great! wnbcradio.com. >> this en