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ed show" with ed schultz. from new york, these stories are hitting my hot buttons at this hour. president obama warned us, foreign money could be influencing our elections and it now seems to be coming true pretty fast, real fast. the right wing chamber of commerce is pumping millions of dollars into our elections and they are not really coming clean with the american people saying this is definitely not coming from overseas. there is absolutely no oversight on where this money is coming from and where it is going. i think it's disgraceful and very dangerous to this country. commentary coming up. rush limbaugh is on the defensive against obama. he calls the president a jackas. it is influencing a lot of voters. jesse jackson responds at the bottom of the hour. randy moss is making waves in the sports pages across america and in politics.
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senator russ feingold can't be happy about either one of the headlines. steven a. smith joins me in the playbook tonight. we start with this. this is the story that has me fired up tonight. it ought to have you fired up if you are a real american. foreign money is buying our elections and america, we need to wake up about this. this isn't right, left, center, blue, green. this is our democracy. the right wing chamber of commerce is vowing to spend $75 million to impact the mid-terms. they are getting the money. as i told you last night, think progress launched an investigation showing the chamber funds its political attack machine and campaign out of its general account which solicits foreign funding. "new york times" editorial points out, quote, the chamber firmly denies the charge saying their internal accounting rules prevent any foreign money being used for any political purposes but because the united states
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chamber is organized as a 501 [ c ] [ 6 ] it does not have to disclose its donors. the full influences is unknown. if you don't find this appall willi ing or you are not ready to question it, you better get your thinking cap on. the chamber is under no rules to disclose where the money comes from so they can say anything they want. senator al franken wants the fcc to investigate and insist that foreign companies prove where the funds are going. fair enough? is that fair? all the righties are getting a boost from the chamber. they are looking the other way. they are just playing dumb. we don't know anything about that. today, outside a fund-raiser for sharron angle, a reporter caught up with congressman, roy blunt, who has the full support of the chamber. here is the exchange.
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>> the chamber of commerce has admitted that its accepting foreign money from businesses like the bahrain petroleum company and they are running that same bank account. i have a membership application that the chamber of commerce is distributing for the same campaign account used to run campaign advertisements here in america. do you have any comment on that? >> i have no idea what you are talking about. >> i want to respond to the people that claim that we are nothing but a bunch of commy and pinkos that were at that rally in washington, d.c. if you are on the other side, explain why your guy couldn't answer the question. explain how you feel about this, conservatives. it is flat-out dangerous that we don't know where the money is coming from and foreign countries are influencing our electoral process.
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president obama tried to warn us about this when conservative supreme court justice, sam alito, suggested that the president was lying. >> last week, the supreme court reversed a century of law that i believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations. to spend without limit. i don't think american elections should be bank rolled by america's most powerful interest or, worst, by foreign entities. they should be decided by the american people. i urge democrats and republicans to pass a bill that helps correct some of these problems. >> a couple of things here, folks, first of all, the president was absolutely spot on. called it before it happened. it is a tsunami of money that's now coming into america. if you are on the side that's getting all the money and you keep your mouth shut, i challenge you, that's not american. now, what about national security? what about defense contracts?
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do you think foreign countries might want to build our stuff? do you think it would hurt manufacturing even further? do you think this will gut the middle class even more? you would have foreign companies that would be going through the chamber of commerce and they would be saying, you know what, you are going to scratch the back of your guy. we have to get the manufacturing over at our place. we would like some of the defense contracts too. we have got a global economy and a global election right here at home. you know what we are doing now? we are fighting them here instead of over there. that's what we are doing when it comes to american jobs. we are fighting them right here at home. on the other hand, would this discourage anybody from running? maybe some good quality people across america that are thinking about public service. think about, there, big guy. are you going to outfund these people? it isn't going to happen. the liberals in this country
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have no chance of matching this kind of money. the machine is just starting to roll. we have seen 40 people stand up and say no to everything. what do they say to this? are they going to step up and be american and say this is wrong for our american elections. if you think the chinese don't want to own everything we do, think again. now, they can own your congressman. now, they can own your senator. they can control who gets in and who gets out, because money is the root of all evil even in politics. the voice of the little guy in america is going to be drowned out so bad, we will not recognize our country. go i have it about, oh, three election cycles. that's what it is really going to take. about three election cycles and we will see zero clean energy people in the united states congress, because the oil boys will make sure that ain't going
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to happen. the overseas oil interest will make sure no clean energy people will get in the united states of america. they want to screw up our business, hit our profit and change things in america. we, as red-blooded americans ought to be furious about what is happening right now. you know, it's a national security issue. it is a national security issue. it's pretty dam scary. tonight's tech survey question is, are you worried foreign money is influencing our elections. text "a" for yes and "b" for no to 622639. we will bring you the results later. we have leo girard with us, president of the international steal worker steel workers. i think this is a turning point. what do you think? >> i don't think you are overstating it. this is outrageous, wrong.
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it shouldn't be tolerated. no other country on earth would tolerate this. the chamber of commerce is collecting from dozens of middle east companies, dozens of middle east oil interests. they are collecting from china, india, egypt, japan, saudi arabia, brazil, russia, to name just a few. they normally, regularly put out what they call action alerts, telling those businesses and those countries that democrats are trying to force local hiring, trying to force local job creation and encourage them to donate to them. this is outrageous. the chamber has been responding by saying they put it in a general fund and they have processes. let me say this. that's an insult to the average american's intelligence. if i put all the money in the pot and the money i used to pay for rent or used to use to pay for coffee, now, i don't have to pay for that. i can use my foreign money to pay for coffee. that releases my money to run
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attack ads. who do they think they are kidding? they should be held accountable, made to say every single donation from every single country from every single company. america is not for sale to the chamber of commerce or foreign corporations. >> what do you make of the chamber's response that the money goes into a general fund because of the way they are set up with a federal tax code, there is no way of tracking this. do we not take their word for it. >> it is not a matter of taking the word for it. the money i use to pay for rent, i no longer have to use that. i can use the foreign money. i release my money to do attack ads. up until september the 15th, they had done 8,000 attack ads on democrats with foreign money. that's an insult. america ought to be outraged. every republican who is having that happen should stand down and be defeated. >> leo, will this set the table
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for a fast-track of outsourcing of jobs, because a lot of these foreign countries will come and say, look, we are going to back your guy. this is where we want to go. back door deals being made. we want this manufacturing site in our country. is that a bridge too far? >> no, it is not a bridge too far. in fact, what the u.s. chamber of commerce has been doing as many of us have been fighting to bring jobs home, every republican the voted against bringing jobs home. while we were doing that, the chamber was sending action alerts to china, india, egypt, russia, europe, saying that democrats were trying to force local hiring at the expense of your jobs. donate so we can help you. they are attacking american workers. they are attacking american politicians who want to bring jobs home by recruiting money from foreign countries and foreign corporations. when i was a young man, i never thought i would see america come
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to this where the u.s. chamber of commerce was working against america. >> amazing stuffment leo gerard, thank you. bill halter, lieutenant governor of arkansas joins us tonight. a primary fight against blanche lincoln and had a lot of corporate money thrown at him. more money in a campaign forces a candidate to defend his or herself by out land dish type of accusations. here is one of them. >> thank you, thank you. while millionaire was a highly paid director of a u.s. company, they exported american jobs to bangalore, indian. with almost 65,000 arakansans out of jobs, we need jobs do. arkansas, tell bill halter, thanks for nothing. >> the irony of this, folks, is the corporate candidate in that
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race was senator blanche lincoln, not bill halter. what about that? >> the fact is that ad was paid by a shadow group called americans for job security. they have routinely intervened on behalf of republican candidates. this was the first time this front group intervened on behalf of a democratic candidate against another in a primary. i also believe you won't be seeing them in the general election. they did the damage they wanted to do in the primary. >> you are on a mission to try to change this. what do democrats do? you can't match the money, can you? >> i think you have to demand full disclosure. i haven't met a single arakansan or american who wouldn't want to know where the money is coming from and demand full disclosure. you can't possibly get to the motivation that's driving contributions to candidates if the contributors are anonymous. how can voters know why these
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ads are being placed? americans for job security and other groups like it, they are simply political hit shops funded anonymously. >> mr. halter, would you go so far to agree with me that this is the end of the little guy having a voice in our democracy? what do you think? >> it certainly puts the balance in favor of somebody who can spend millions of dollars, personally, or millions of dollars, out of one organization, especially if you don't have the counter balance of knowing who they are and thereby, being able to describe why they are doing it. >> this is going to discourage a lot of people thinking about public service. >> it is with unin a trend of things that will drive good people out of seeking public office. it is a real tragedy, ed. the only way we are going to reverse this is for the american people to demand it be reversed. >> bill halter, lieutenant governor of arkansas. i'm sorry alabama beat arkansas.
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>> you and me both. coming up, the drugster has gone totally off the rail. wait until you hear his new name for the president of the united states. the white house is hot that hillary clinton and joe biden are going to be trading places in 2012. what a bunch of smoke. dick armey is about to get schooled. christine o'donnell is about to get sold and the freak is coming home to the vikes. i'm pumped up about that. you are watching "the ed show" on msnbc. stay with us.
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time is flying by. we are now a month away from a crucial election. progressives are working hard to keep the democratic minority in power. in congress, the minority is ruling. 41 republicans are holding change and jobs flat-out hostage. 420 bills passed by the house are collecting dust in the senate. in the month of september, congress as in session. 48 of them were put on the shelf. republicans are playing hardball politics with your lives and our
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jobs. i find it flat-out unamerican. for more, let's bring in michigan senator debbie stabenow, her state suffers one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. the real question the democrats are banking on here, the answer is, do the voters understand what obstruction is? are they schooled up enough about the minutia to describe what the party of no is doing? >> you raise a good point. the strategy is very clear. it has been public. the senate republican leader before the president was sworn in decided that the president ran on a flat form of change and if they stop any change from happening in people's lives that somehow they would benefit from that, that we will have failed. the reality that we have gotten things done anyway. we have gotten the recovery act
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and so on. it has been painfully low and as you've said, we now have some 400 different pieces of legislation. many of them directly related to jobs that are being held up. the question is, how do we communicate that so that people understand who has been trying to move the country forward, moving it forward slowly. >> that is the key to the democrats, to make the american people understand what obstruction is, how many bills are passed in the house, how many have been held up in the senate and who you are going to hold accountable for it. that's what this is about for the democrats. do the voters get it in your opinion? >> let me give you two examples of that. you were talking earlier about the influence of foreign money coming into the country, which is extremely concerning to me. we are trying to stop jobs being outsourced. in my judgment, we export products, not jobs.
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the republicans stop a bill that would clothes loopholes that are sending jobs overseas. then, they have help from foreign money coming in to defeat our candidates who are fighting for middle class workers and people who have lost their jobs. the small business bill, in the end, we worked on that for about a year. we finally got that done. two courageous republicans joined us to stop the fill buster. we haven't seen the full impact of the small business loans and tax cuts as we would have had it been passed a year ago. that's what this is about. >> i have god to ask you, why do you think white working voters are turning against the democrats? the latest poll out there shows that the working class american white voters, they are peeling off of president obama. we are going to talk about this more in the show later tonight. i want your opinion on this. >> ed, people are hurting. they are legitimately fearful. their house is under water. their job may be under water if they have a job.
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they may be getting paid less. so at this point in time, people are rightly fearful. the republicans with huge amounts of money have been redirecting them away from the folks causing it, away from the folks that believe that, you know, the best policy is to give to the very, very rich and hope that it trickles down. folks in michigan are waiting for it to trickle down. they are redirecting that. >> i want to thank you for your word. you held your word to me. you took unemployment benefits to the floor trying to help the 99ers and it was the republicans lemieux from florida who has nothing to lose was the object struck tore. thanks for your time tonight. tea party cheerleader, dick armey, wants to put the screws to students who are trying to graduate with degrees. well, we just got to school the
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dick armey went on the wrong network to plug the tea party platform. only a few dozen people saw it, which essentially amounts to cutting all federal spending. >> would you have the federal government pay for higher education? >> no, i would not.
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i don't think the federal government's involvement in higher education has benefited the students of america. >> buddy, i think the millions of students that benefited from the more than $75 billion of federal student loans would probably disagree, not to mention the 6.2 million students that received federally funded pell grants. dick doesn't care about that. >> the education of our young people should be under the jurisdiction and under the auspices of the state government. the state of texas has a great university system that's not been made better by the federal government. >> he thinks federal funding for education hasn't helped texas. the percentage of students in texas that benefited from federal funding is higher than the national average. during the 2006-2007 school year, 83% of the students used
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federal loans. compared to 71% of all americans. come on, dick. get a grip. 2007, 2008, more than 400,000 texans received pell grants. federal funding makes it possible for millions of kids to go to college across america. the tea partyers don't get that. in a great university system doesn't have a heck of a lot of good if the students can't afford to be a part of it. so saying you want to eliminate federal funding for higher education, mr. army, that is highly uneducated psycho talk. coming up, russ just called the president of the united states a jackass. what a pathetic dude. i think it's sad that some americans are falling for all of this garbage. the low-information voters. jesse jackson sounds off on limbaugh's racism in the battleground sellingment tonight. christine o'donnell, she is what?
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rush limbaugh thinks president obama is a jackass who wants america to fail. some middle class americans are buying this hook, line and sinker. the drugster just unleashed this. >> he is a jackass. he is an economic ignoramus and that's being charitable. >> limbaugh is going nuts because president obama wants him to pay an additional 4% on his taxes. limbaugh's net worth is estimated just north of $300
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million, which puts him in the high end of the top 2%. i guess when you are that rich you can say whatever the heck you want without consequences including calling the president the jack as and when he played barack, the magic negro and called him unamerican, nothing happened. when he called him uppity, nobody batted an eye. limbaugh and the rest of the 450 right-wing caulkers have been on a mission to convince white working class americans that the president of the united states is out to destroy this country. a new poll shows that maybe it is starting to work. white americans without a college degree, just like limbaugh, favor republicans 58% to 36%. working class older white voters have been peeling away from president obama. this time around, rush and the
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hate merchants have convinced them the president is on a mission to get all the money out of their pocket and get them out of existence. no reason for a 50-year-old white guy with a mortgage, a pension plan and a couple of kids in college to vote for a republican. democrats, what do they do? well, they pass health care for that 50-year-old dude with a couple of kids in college and pass college financial aid for the kids. financial reform to protect his pension and money for small businesses to help him, you know, maybe keep his job. republicans keep in mind have done nothing to stop middle class jobs from being shipped overseas. here is the landscape of the whole thing, old, white, angry, middle class voters are being affected by all this rush limbaugh garbage. he wants the middle class, white americans to be very afraid of a black president with a funny name. he this is diversity is socialism and he thinks equal
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rights is an absolute joke. i saw a completely different america on the national mall this weekend. people of every color were speaking with one voice on saturday. 27 days from now, americans, you can do your part. you can fight the rush attack or whatever you want to call it in this dark vision of america by standing up and voting. what is best for this country? is it always about the money. joining me is reverend jesse jackson president of rainbow-push coalition. good to have you with us tonight. >> see you saturday. >> you bet. i'll ask you the same question i asked senator stabenow, why do you think white voters are turning away from the president? the polls are showing this. what do you think is happening here, reverend? >> well, they are traveling on buckets of fear. most poor people are white, female and young. when president barack came in office, we were losing 75,000
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jobs a month. they were mostly white. 50,000 troops are now home from iraq. they are mostly white soldiers. what president barack has done, he has reversed the flow of the river. the vulgar amount of foreign money being spent to purchase our democracy should be of a great concern. the growth of poverty in our country. the great things of our country are being sidetracked by these. president obama is an american and a christian and leader of the free world. >> these right-wing talkers reach what, 40 million americans a day. there is 450 of them across the country. it is very clear, first, they were after president obama. they said they wanted him to fail but now it has evolved into the things limbaugh is talking about. freedom of speech in this couldn't interest i. he is not breaking any laws.
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every talker talks like this. it is the constant hammering that is affecting voters. >> i think the president ought to go to appalachia where you have the hard-working american veterans and coal miners who need social security and unemployment compensation, who need the jobs, who come back home from iraq. robert kennedy went to appalachia and held a white baby in his arms. that baby's runny nose cut america different. i think president barack has the kind of standing among working class white workers. take his case of appalachia and rule alabama and the same as he is doing. stop the gushing of jobs for america and put america back to work. we must fight.
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we see america and choose the fear have the that's his mission. he should stay right there. >> finally, this story that we did earlier, reverend jackson, minorities will have their voices squelched in this country if this trend continues. is that an overstatement? >> not just minorities but any money is a vulgar rs outlandish money. we should have hearings right now, where is the money coming from and vote elected officials, not foreign money. it is unfair, not american and immoral. >> two things. good luck to your bears and happy birthday and how does it feel to be 39 or whatever?
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>> 59. >> keep them alive, man, keep them alive. >> reverend jackson, good to have you with us. the white house is shooting down bob woodward's speculation that secretary of state, hillary clinton, might be tapped to be president obama's running mate in 2012. david axlerod called it absolutely fix. more bad news for meg whitman. now, her former nanny has come forward back up the former housekeeper's claims of cruelty. the ex-nanny said whitman treated her domestic workers as disposable. the gop's pledge to america isn't even a blip on the electoral radar screen. only one-third of americans have heard about it. with us, bill press and karen handron. good to have you both with us.
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>> is this the hot rumor in d.c.? bill press, i would like to have bob woodward come out and give us his source. he is not doing it. it is book promotion, isn't it? >> i think bob woodward is an outstanding reporter. he ought to stick to reporting on wars and leave the inside the beltway political gossip to somebody else. hillary clinton is an outstanding secretary of state, one of the best we have ever had. joe biden is a phenomenal vice preside president, one of the best we have had. there is no way barack obama is going to throw joe biden overboard and make hillary vice president. it gets bob woodward some signs. >> he says it is on the table. who told you it is on the table? this is the reaction from the secretary of state? >> i think the vice president is doing a wonderful job.
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he is a great friend of mine. we work together closely. he is an expert on foreign policy, chaired the foreign relations committee in the senate for years and we have a great relationship and i have absolutely no interest and no reason for doing anything other than just dismissing these stories and moving on. there is no -- we have no time. we have so much to do. i think both of us are very happy doing what we are doing. >> karen, what do you make of the answer? >> the answer is fine. i think she could have been a little more up front. of course, this is ridiculous, i am not going to be the vice president in the 2012 election. this is a typical inside-the-beltway story. the newspapers are picking it up. they are going to take anonymous sources and run with it. this one has someone's publicist written all over it.
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the only interesting thing is that i do think there are a fraction of democrats that wish hillary was going to be on the ticket and are concerned about obama's chances in 2012. >> one election at a time, karen. now, let's go to the situation with meg whitman. karen, i'll ask you first. how do you get rid of this story? >> well, you know, gloria allred is the ultimate bottom feeder. i saw her in 2003 try to do something very similar to arnold schwarzenegger. it didn't work. so i look at the source. i consider the source is really gloria allred and however it is she is manipulating these women. >> does this give us an insight of who she really is? >> the source here is nicky diaz and the backing up the source now is jill armstrong. so you have got two women, two former employees who have come out and said that meg whitman is lying and she treated them like
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dirt. meg whitman cannot blame this anymore on jerry brown and you and meg whitman can't blame it on gloria allred. stand up and take responsibility for her own action. she broke the law. she ignored a social security letter and she treated her employees like dirt. >> she treats workers lousy. it's a fact. >> i think if voters are going to look at the two sources. who are you going to believe, meg whitman or gloria allred? i think they are going to believe meg whitman. if this is so legitimate, why are they using gloria allread to announce this story? why do they put her side by side with the housekeeper? >> she needs an attorney. >> there are hardly any attorneys in california. >> karen, the source is nicky diaz, the source is jill armstrong. the source is not gloria allread. >> but gloria allred is the person that introduces all of this. >> distraction, distraction.
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you, like meg whitman, are afraid to stand up and take responsibility for what happened. >> i take full responsibility for all the illegal immigrants i have ever hired. >> republicans in california are having buyer's remorse, believe me. they have never seen so much money spent for so little. >> since this story came out, the polls are starting to turn for jerry brown. he is starting to move up a little bit. great to have you with us. bill press and karen handwrite. >> christine o'donnell's life is becoming a toy story. i'll explain it. all in the playbook next. i'm psyched for tonight's playbook. randy moss is teaming up with brett favre and the vikings. they are in new york this monday night. i am going head to head with steven a. i don't think he is a fan. stay with us. ♪ when the parts for the line ♪ ♪ come precisely on time ♪ that's logistics ♪
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it's been a tough 24 hours for russ feingold. last night, the nfl made the wisconsin senator stop using video of randy moss mooning the green bay packer fans although it was popular in minnesota at the time. fine gold and the rest of the cheese heads were crushed again, randy moss, back to the vikings. traded from new england, third round choice. moss has spent his first seven years in minnesota racking up touchdowns. the 33-year-old soon to join 41-year-old brett favre and all-world running back adrian petersen in time to face the new york jets at the meadow land stadium. the vikings are currently 1-2.
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i think this move will put them over the top. there is only one guy that can straighten that out and that is my buddy, steven a. smith, nationally s nationally sin dictated talk host. tell me about this move. >> let me say this to you. in all seriousness, if brett favre can't win the super bowl this year, he needs to retire. you are talking about randy moss. you are taublgilking about bern berry. you have one of the best tight ends in football and the best runningback in football in adrian petersen, a massive offensive line. if you are brett favre, you have absolutely no excuse for being inept, off target, unenthused. the list goes on and on. this is his moment. he wanted it. he has got it. >> i like being in that corner. there is nothing wrong with good
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management of an nfl team. >> hold on. time out, time out, team. >> hold on, time-out, ed. this from mr. ed sheltz who was whining and moaning about my new york yankees last year? you have no problem with it all of a sudden? this is -- >> it's good management. >> oh, now it's good management. >> you're going to be able to put rice and harvin and be able to put moss over to the right, single set back in peterson and run left. he's going to beat the first man. we're gone. we're gone. we're going to the super bowl. i'm calling it out. we going to the show. >> listen to me, we're not looking for your football analysis. you're a homer. you have no objectivity whatsoev whatsoever. everything about brett favre is absolutely right even though the man doesn't even want to report to work. we're living in a world where 14 million people plus are unemployed, okay, and this man
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doesn't want to show up to work. >> brett favre is an unselfish dude. he gives the democrats, how about that -- >> did you just say brett favre is unselfish? >> he gave to the local democratic congressman down there. he's a good guy. he's working hard. he's a granddaddy. he's going to be 41 this sunday. stephen a., we're going to the show, brother. >> ed, i'll give you this much, he's unselfish but with the money he was collecting for doing nothing, he might as well have been generous for crying out loud. >> stephen a. smith tonight with us on "the ed show," always a pleasure. couple of final pages in the playbook tonight. christine the teenage witch has her own action figure. for only $39.95 you can be proud owner of the christine o'donnell witch doll. how about the executive o'donnell doll? professional. and governor schwarzenegger? he predicted president obama
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would win re-election in two years in an interview with a german news. he said that he was sure that president obama would get a second term in office. and he said the gop wouldn't succeed in finding a candidate who could beat him in 2012. good news. and finally, the so-called bin laden hunter has been arrested for domestic violence and third degree assault. colorado state police arrested gary faulker er ifaulkner afte explorer he was riding in crashed. he was a passenger. police spokesman did not say if the injuries were from alleged domestic violence or from the crash. he was arrested in june in pakistan while trying to hunt down osama bin laden with a sword. coming up, i suspected a long time ago that the white house made a shady back room deal on health care and now tom daschle's talking.
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just wait until you hear what he had to say. adam green fought harder than anybody for the bill that should have a public option. next. stay with us. [ advisor 1 ] what do you see yourself doing one week,
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president obama kept the pro public option rhetoric well into the health care debate gone a year ago. tom daschle suggested the white house abandon the public option
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because of a deal they made with health care companies. daschle walked that one back quickly, almost immediately, saying the public option was only dropped when it became clear it wouldn't get through congress. whichever version is true, the fact remains, the health care insurance industry has stabbed the president of the united states right in the back. the health care bill was a good deal for the insurance companies but they're pouring money into the republican campaigns this year. with insurance companies flocking to republicans and with rahm emanuel's departure, maybe now the democrats will have the ammunition they'll need to bring back the public option. joining me now is adam green, co-founder of the progressive change campaign committee, find them online at does this confirm our worst fears that the deal was cut a long time ago yet it played out in the public there was a chance? how do you feel about that? >> what daschle basically said today is there was an active strategy from the very beginning of the health care debate to
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appease the insurance companies and essentially sell the public option short. and, really, now this is the most clear example yet of preemptively caving before the fight has begun, regardless of what the public thinks. folks in the white house are scratching their held, thinking wishgs are above ma voters not coming out? it's episodes like this, the rahm emanuel playbook of weakness and caving that they have to thank for that. >> now that he's gone, does that remedy the situation and give hope for the next phase of health care reform that liberals could push? >> it's certainly an option for president obama to change away from his weak mentality of preevtively caving before the fight, and saying when the public's on my side, i will fight for it. >> isn't there a big lesson to be learned here? the insurance companies came out on this bill. they're getting 30 million new customers with taxpayer dollars to be able to buy in and then they turn around and campaign against the democrats and president obama.
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what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's called not compromising with your enemies. stop protending that republicans are on your side if you deal with them. stop pretending that corporate america's on your side. they will oppose you. the people who support you are the public. in the beginning of this public option fight, between 80% and 70% of the public wanted that public option. many folks are think, will i come out this year? for folks like me who are working really hard to tell progressive voters to come out and support progressive candidates this fall, this mentality of weakness makes our jobs hard. >> i think we should point out the irony here that the new chief of staff, mr. rause, is a former chief of staff for tom daschle. we'll find out if he's going to get in the way of the public option. adam green, thanks. tonight in our tech survey question, i asked, are you worried foreign money is influencing our elections? 95% of your said yes. that's "the ed show." "hardball" starts ri