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nure precisely what i said but i stand by what i said, whatever it was. ♪ cveland rocks jumpg jean james dean ♪ ♪ cleveland rocks >> we begin with the president and mitt roey in a fever-pitch to gain the american heartland with candidates holding dueling events in ohio this afternoon, speaking at exactly the same time, to somewhat different kroundz. the buckeye battle goi down even as devastating new polls show serious tubles for the urhe president cracked 50% in gallup's dailily tracking poll, leading romney by six points nationwide. poll this is week have shown mitt romney trailing in just about every battleground state in this campaign. but nowhere is he in deeper trble than in the deps o oh yes, in case you were wondering why poor mitt was dragged out onto the tarmac in his
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windbreaker after an exhausting day in new york, in case you're wondering why he's busting from ervie ted heights to toledo, that's because romney's path to the white house is facing one giant obstacle. here's a hint. it's round on the sides and high in the middle. case in point, the latest new york times/abnews poll ging est a n-t ino. the fourth poll to give the incumbent a wide advantage in the state. and enough for abc news to move the state's crucial 18 electoral votes out of battleground staters toean obama. and as we now ow del's in the details with romney failing to make the sale on almost any issue, including the economy where he's at a six-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? tt rney kha.
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trouble. and in a brand new ad, one reason is clear, as romney plays face thecamera, doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class e difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing. maybe a little more -- tell you what, here's an example of a politici speaking this nuauti an in bowlingreen wit come >> my opponent may think it's fair that someone who makes $20 million a year, like he does, pays a lower rate than a teacher, i disagree. i don't think that's fair. i don't think it helps grow our economy. mi t give up their deductions for owning a home or looking after their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. we're not going to do that.
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>> dear me. diwe mention ohio voting starts in sidays? i'm delht to be joined now by former ohioer t strickland with us from columbus. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> governor, there is still plenty of time for mr. romney to make roads in your fair state, but why do you think he's doing so badly? is it because he had done nothing save the a industry? is it because he says he doesn't care about half the population of the country? or is it because nobody understands what he stands for outside of tax cuts? >> all of the above, martin. beginning when we found out he had a swiss bank account, investments in th caymen islands -- >> switzer land. >> outsourcer of jobs. he went on and on and on. his wife has two cadillacs, an elevator for his cars in his home. and then he says on videotape that he'tingfff the american people, just basically
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talking in the most disdainful way about good, hard working americans. veterans, poor people who are working their hearts out to make a living. >> governor, havei have t-- i'm sorry, i have to interrupt you because mrond mr. ryan are saying it's the president who are into social divisiveness. they are the ones splitting the countries between the have and have nots. they're the one playinghe wealthisparity card. >> well, quite the oppose. u , wsyog bere i was a political person. in psychology we say that sometimes if someone's got a problem, that they tend to talk about it in ways that isery el.tradictory to their own e fact is that mitt romney said 47% of the american people basically are free-loaders, parasites. he was talking about good, hard
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working, salt of the earth, ohioans, ic thta a narrative that built up over a series of months as we watched this man and watched this campaign. and that videoonfirmed for many ohioans exactly what they were thinking this man may be like. and he can say all he wants to sayboutlass arut he's the one waging it. you know, he pays 14.1% in federal income tax. the average ohioan pays more than 20% in federal income tax. >> i'm sorry, sir, you're wrong about that. vtaai an - he actuall paid 9% additional amount. >> that's right. >> -- in order to be consistent with his original promise. but, in fact, if he had been according to the letter of the requirements of the tax code, his tax rate would have been 9%. >> after he sd someo who paorax - that they were required to be would be
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disqualified to be the president. he gamed the system. he pretended he was paying a higher rate because he didn't take the full deductions from his charitable contribution. that's gaming the system. thiss pafor e cose f mma. having a swiss bank account, he's gaming the system. >> according to the very latest polling, the president is actually leading mr. romney on virtually every single bjec the economy, healthre sl security, immigration. the only subject mr. romney is polling better on than the president is the budget plan and his plans have been described as mathematically impossible. do you think mr. romney really thought he could fight this est noin a implylami t content of his own? do you think that was his strategy? >> well, i think that was his strategy. then he chose paul ryan and they claim to be fiscally nservative people, but paul ryan's budget that mitromney
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called marveus bgetould noie balance for 30 years. so, they aren't even fiscally responsible. across the board, you know, they've run a campaign that has blamed the president, blamed the president. they have no new ideas of their own. simply wto aco b agenda. more tax cuts for really wealthy people. putting an additional tax burden on working people. and looking down their noses in the most disdainful way, martin. >> yes. and i think mitt romney spoke from his heartn al ab47% of the american people basically being parasites. >> you are the psychologist, so only you can make a comment about that. but i'm so glad you mentioned paul ryan, because he wasn the trail today. and he was dispatched to colorado. where he took a question from a woman, whoak every two weeks and cannot get off welfare. here's the conclusion to his
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rather lengthy insubstantial answer. >> a hand up, a hand out. teach a n to fish, he can feed elr ali. don't simply feed fish. >> don't feed the fish? feed the 5,000? what is this man talking about? >> well, ari almost insultingneinsult ing answer to a serious question. there are struggling americans looking for real answers. all they're hearing from romney/ryan is tax cuts for the wealthy. let this trickle down system that's failed us in the past, let's go back to that, try it at least e more time. let's enrich our wealthy friends. anit'sotli in ohio, martin. and i don't believe it's going to sell across the country. because people understand these are difficult times. the president is working. he's got a serious agenda. he's a focused, mature man. and all they're dngs tg
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ea h down and make themselves an alternative. you know, they wanted to make this a referendum on barack obama. it has become a referendum on mitt romney and pl ryan. and because of that -- >> yes, sir. but in your ate, m romn ha'teeel mby local republicans, for example, governor ca governor kassic. and i want to play you a batch of back tape. take a listen. >> i hope you all know that om8 in job creation to number four. number one in the midwest. we have grown 123,000 jobs in the state of ohio. our families are going back to work. >> my heart aes f people. income's going down. every year going down, down, down. these are tough times, even for families with jobs. >> governor, it's tough, isn't
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it, because kasich wants toalk abt tco uptick only for romney to come in and say the state is cratering. >> romney was talking about ohio under governortaft. the recovery hadlready started because of the recovery act and to iusof thealonth and president obama doesn't credit for what's happening in ohio. but you're right, they have contradictory messages. and mt romney's coming here to ohio and trying to say everything is doom and gloom, but our economy is on the rebound and oeou in large part because our president gave us the stimulus bill, the recovery act, which enabled me and other governors across america to keep our states from falling ever deeper to a depression. and then the president inteenes the american
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auto industry, went out of every ght jobs in ohio is related to that vital industry. that's why the president is ten points ahead, according to "the new york times" poll, and i think is going to win ohio. rtin, no republican has ever wo t pdewit d n'in -- i don't think he has a chance of winning ohio in this election. that means the president will be re-elect for a second term. >> we should also say that unemployment in ohio now down to 7.2%. former ohio rnte stla thank you, sir, for joining us. >> hey, thank you, martin. thank you for having me. >> thank you, sir. next, is is there trouble in the romney/ryan relationship? stay with us. ans mite gnmanhe conservativism self-evident truth tax breaks for the wealthy are good for the poor. it's like the old saying, the rich get richer -- hooray! [ male announcer ] whatf you had thermal ik acipssision goggles,
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if you're anywhere near the romney/ryan bus tour you m be t smell something a little putrid. "the new york times" quoting a gop operative that says if ryan wants to run for office again, he'll probably have to wash the in a farce, ryan is heard referring to him running mate as stench. reportedly, he has been marching
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sssten cal, a joining us is jonathan capehart, washington post columnist, and ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for politico. i need to start by plang you a clip at a paul ryan rallyod whoold san get off welfare. she asks him what he should do -- what she should do. his answer is that w must grow the economy, not allow the president's welfare work requirement. then in a long, rambling answer, this is what he recommends hot hand out. teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for a life. don't simply feed fish. >> don't simply feed fish. >> that's not terribly empathetic -- or sympathetic. >>t's bonkers, isn't it 12? >> i don't know about bonkers. the poor man is stuck -- >> he's talking about feeding fish now. >> yes, he's talking about
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eding fish -- >> but he uses the erb,iv a fish once -- >> the problem he has is he's stuck in this mind set, in the long term a good thing to be worried about deficit and debt, anthe practice jeker to it's put this country on, but there's a woman sayi to m, onwee, wan to get off and i can't. she's looking to him -- >> she's actually working. she's earning and getting government assistance. >> clearly she doesn't want to be getting government assistance. >> no. >> what she's looking to him for lpge off government re going to assistance. he can't quite seem to get there for her. >> no. ken, paul ryan was supposed to bring bold ideas and conservatives on board. you report he was supposedo help with a small dollar dons that romney has struggled to attract but it hn'tpp. who's to blame?
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is it mr. ryan or the stench? >> i don't know about the stench but that's -- zhou don't think it's the stench to blame? >> i do -- >> romney? >> romney has made itficu fo ryaau r like you said, paul ryan was brought on because of these bold ideas. most namely, the ryan plan, the ryan budget proposal. and no sooner had he been brought on, mitt romney was retreating from it and paul ryan was not referring to it at all. ,itt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into effect, one of the more controversial portions of it. mitt romney backtracked and said, i'm the guy rning id n i think that in a nutshell sums up the predictment of paul ryan. he can't play to his strengths. >> is it time for more republicans to stand upwind of
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mitt romney? >> look, i think with 41 days- re g tt to say it. i'm not saying it, martin. >> okay. >> with 41 days left in the campaign, and the grumbling we're hearing about let ryan be ryan, clearly folks have decided governor romney is beyond help. governor romney doesn't to want listen to outside forces how he can help, right his campaign, governor -- excuse , congressman ryan is someone young enough and does have bold ideas. it might not be the right ones tooi s, he has but aeast in them, that can be debated. he's young enough if the romney/ryan ticket loses in november, he still gets t return to washington, assuming he wins re-election to his seat, which most lely wi happe buhes t g b t wagton as a leader in his party, who can still take up the
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fight. >> ken, when people say, as jonathan jusdid, that paul ryan should be unleashed, he was unleashed before the aarp conferce where he took his 78ear-d moer hs we s w believes about medicare and they booed and abused him throughout his spee. i mean, he's off the leash there. what's wrong with that? >> well, i mean, that would be some conservatives who are arguing for more of a -- a poa romneyizing of paul as ryan. those bolder ideas, popular for some on the conservative base, definitely bold, are nonetheless going to attract some criticism, as they did in this situation. and they would, i think, probably his srtwo saat tth bad with the good. nonetheless, we're seeing very little of really a chance for him to even get to that point where his ideas are being debated on their merits.
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rvin a vp role.nd we should point out that's traditionally the role running mates take. he's number two. if romney loses with enhanced stature or not, i think that's when you start getting into this idea that his bra may b tt he may actually smell now. >> here's the thing. governor romney said in the "60 minutes" interview, i'm the candidate and we'll be talking about my plan we're going to release in a wild. we're still waiting on . >> jhacart vogel, thank you to both. next, team romney, union men? stay with us. >> i want to see some experienced referees with nfl experience come back onto the nfl playing fields. >> i have a lf good frs, o o m dolphins and the new york jets, both owners are friends of mine. [ male announcer ] at scottrade,
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like the droid razr. the national football league and referees union are repoedly getting closer to a de thacoul sd t bung fumbling replacements back to their day jobs by this sunday. and thank goodness, because if the reverberations on the campaign trail are an indication, then the world can't wait for this labor dispute to end. the presidt himself tweeted, nfl fans on botes oe aisle hope the refs' lockout is settled soon. no doubt coming from a man who likes his bears and the right to union. roge goodell callinghe nfl rectal wh g for the romney/ryan ticket, that union-busting, build it yourself, trickle down team that prefers private equity to public demonstrations? because no sooner had golden
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tate emerged with the fooall than packer-backer paul ryan let loose. i start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you guys watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. s time to get the real refs. >> and then it was mr. romney, sport himself, piling on at the line of scrimmage. >> i just wanted to see some experienced referees with nfl experience come back onto the nfl playing fiel. >> l ghi stht. when it comes to the nfl, mr. romney and mr. ryan want the owners, some of whom romney counts as personal friend, to get a deal done as quickly as possible so tha the real pros can get back to officiating. rete heaven forbid, police o those dreadful teacher, well,
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what's the rush? bleed them dry. for their latest hypocrisy, this time concerning organized labor, we throw our own penalty flag at mr. ro a mr. ryan. that's ten yards for pandering and now your back's squarely against the goal. stay with us.
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speaking of losing -- >> this is one thing he did not do in s first four years, raising attacks. >> barack oba is surging in the polls causehe cr ge ttith dumber mitt romney appears to be getting. >> i don't pay attention to the day to day polls. i'll go up or down. >> they want you thinking it's over. >> bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. now i just have to wait a couple days for the bounce. >> if he going to double down on t >>y heart aches. >> redistribution of socialism. it's only been four days. >> high benefits for low income people and higher benefits for high income people. >> that's redistribution! if am,ha t of the republican party. >> the republican party doesn't last long once the black guy shows up. >> romney/ryan. >> did you watch that packer game last night? give me a break. >> every now and then i'm known to make a mistake. >> the gden bear. >> the greatest athte o
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century. >> i play a lot of golf. >> nixon plays golf. >> i don't want to whine and complain, if i was romney in the first ten minutes, i would have -- bam. >> they get you here, right here. >> is he a good dancer? >> he'sotten to be a better ncer. sitlly tourt this is hard. you want to try it? get in the ring. >> oh, my? was i a little strong? >> when you go aer my man -- >> everyone is giving me high fives. >>o you think this would be going betterf he had ninated somee el ahaur down here? >> if you don't man up, you got to shut up. >> this is a guy that cares for the 100%. >> we use fairly right now so people don't get tired of her. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by goldie taylor, managing editor of the goldie taylor project, jimy williams and julian epstein. julian, i might begin with
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you. we saw ann romney last night on with jay leno. li sg st week when cof she chastised all of us when we didn't realize how lucky we are for having her husband run for president. what did you think of the more humble mrs. romney? >> i don't critique -- >> stop it. t heng get in the wring. >> she does have -- >> stop it. >> -- about watching your spouse -- watching your spouse take a shellacking is a diicult job for any spouse. and this just isn't a normal shellacking we're talking about. we're talking about a loss in novemberhatould put the republanso aernt minority status. and i think you'll start hearing two words. one, mandate. two, landslide. because that's the way things are looking. you talk to professionals and ey wil telou o camera it is getting increasingly unlikely
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to impossible that romney has a path in the electoral college here. >> goldie, do you agree with juli julien? >> i agree with lien, the path for mitt romney is certainly narrowing. i kno ttf mbaer king the kind of public flogging mitt romney is now, some of it self, you know, asked for, i, too, would be a bit upset about that. but women who are running ongside their husband, isntha double e firstadin duty. one to give a more gentile face for their family, their husband, two, to validate their values. i don'tnow that ann romney has risen to that occasion. it's gng to get ter for her, tougher for mitt as the last 40 days go on. >> let's talk about someone the republican party is proud of, congressman akin. the deadline for him to drop out of the missouri senate race has passed.
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he's their guy. he's being embraced by j demint, rick santorum and newt gingrich. that will get him the women's vote, yes? >> i don't think i've been this giddy in my 20 years in politics, i'll be brutally honest with you. listen, this is a bad thing for the republicans. if youook arygl republican running for the higher office in the building behind me, go state by state, go to never never, florida, go to every single one of them, anti-equal gay rights. every one of them want to be in a woman's bedroom or door's y single one don't think our personal privacy or freedoms is something to be legislated. todd akin is at the top of the list. he's the king of being invasive and violating the pajama test. ifou'reri yrpajamas, the government should not be involved. he's right of the right. missouri is turning more right than i thought it would be at
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this time. he still probably cod lose. that's amazing to me. i'd be interested in what goldie as a woman, and what julien as a think he's a bad candidate and claire mccaskill may sail through. >> julien, we know that mr. ryan co-sponsored bills with the very same todd akin. i mean, why isn't mr. ryan applauding and supporting mr. akin's run for tat ,y' running away from it. i think the fact he's still in the race shows the republican establishment does not really have that much power anymore. that's a story that hasn't been reported on. the two impressions you're left with with this republican par during this entire election season, when it comoocl issues, as jimmy pointed out, akin on the women's ise, hispanic issues, it's the archie bunker hour for the republican party. when it comes to economic issues it's more like an episode of "signfield" inhat it's a campaign about nothing.
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t a ngleconoidth intut before, taxes are at 15% of gdp, the lowest in 60 years. the idea the republicans want to ild a campaign on lowering them even further just seems to beempty-headed and slightly brain dead. this is a party that has not a t out publicly during this campaign season. it's remarkable because the republican party ten years ago did not used to be this way. it was very good at natial campaigns. as jimmy has said, this h been a pat thetic caaign. >> goldie, mitt romneyasn ttlta f six years. he's now got 42 days. he's been running for six years. is he going to surprise us in the next four, five weeks with mething spectaculathat's opghimisun >> in order for mitt romney to surprise us, he would haveo terally sweep, you know, the battleground field.
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that just isn't going to happen. you know, i'll take it back to missouri for a minute. you know, we really thought that missouri would bin play because of someoneike akin. askiidase will turn out in an earthquake and you had best believe those evangelicals in missouri are going to give it a real go. claire mccaskill is not out of the woods yet. the rncs today may be putting uav sm completelyri. abandon him since that deadline has passed. but in terms of mitt romney, he's going to run away from somebody like akin. let akin win or lose on his own because he's got to go after inpendence. at this late stage, i think that bale is alreadyos >>my joker, you have the final word. >> he needs to watch "wizard of oz," he needs a heart, brain and courage. he's got nther one. >> good luck with that. >> goldie taylor, jimy williams, julien. inte divesting from tough on
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in a perfectly timed move just before the republicanprimaries, mr. romney withdrew $75,000 in atnelompanies and other companies. of course, he didn't do it, it was his blind trust that did the divesting. >> the blind trust is an age-old rouse, if you will, to say you can tell the blind tst what it cannd cnot . haou cinat up. joining me jarod bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economic adviser to vice president and robert trainam, an msnbc contributor, and former senior communications adviser for the bush/cheneycaaign cask yll seriousness, does mr. romney's blind trust have excellent eyesight? it does seem strange his investments were withdrawn just before the primaries in his run for the whi use?
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t ey was very right in that quote, you can tell your blind trust wha to avoid. his blind trust had good eyes on that one. if you're an investor, in a index fund, pension fund or an aouoi investhop like bain in emerging economies, of which china is one. nothing wrong with that. >> there's money to be made. >> there's nothing wrong with that. there's a big difference between being investor in chief and prident of the unid states. this business of getting tough e cig trail, everybody does it, it really comes down to what's in the details. and that i think is where mitt romney has been, once again, insufficient. he says he would label china a currency manipulator but at the giiobirtisan agast legislation, that would actually go hard against the fact china manages currency to are an
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vantage with its exports and put our imports at a competitive disadvantage. >> mr. romney scolded the president back in 2009 for defending american tire companies against chinese competition and i'm quoting him, production stifles productivity but he now has the president hasn't been hard enough on china. today the president responded. take a listen. >>henou hear this newfound outrage, you hear these ads promising to get tough on china, it feels a lot like that fox saying, you know, we need more secure chicken coops. >> robert, i don't want to labor the point b w a led romney supporters are planning a big fund-raiser for him tomorrow in hong kong. does mr. romney have any credibility when he attacks the president on china? >> very little, to be completely honest with you. mittomnes pican he looking at the polls.
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the polls in florida, michigan, ohio, huge in pennsylvania, huge manufacturing states, china is a major issue because obviously that average white male out there that depend on these jobs when he's manufacturing jobs see at mitt romney is doing is he's putting his finger up in the air, listening to the political and rhetorical winds out there and shifting his position and being an advocate for the american worker out there. the question is whether or not the averagperson is going to buy itr no >> ja robert's point, it's good -- maybe good politics but a lack of subsubstantive policies. >> china has a very long record. by the way, i'm pretty sympathetic because they are an emerginggrg enomyit lot of people to employ. but they are the ones, who by manipulating their currency values to make their exports cheaper and our imports to them
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more expensive, they are engaging in protectionism. unless youwilling too r pyai on, pretty head on, i think youe just blowing smoke here. now, on this china currency deal that said bipartisan support in the congress, mitt romneyaid he's unequivocally against it. frankly, president obama has been luke warmn i all ifotodesk, i think he would sign it. >> i wish, gentlemen, we had more time. thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next, do the math. we'll tell you why mitt needs to go for broke at next week's denver debate. [ male announcer ] what if you had thermal night-vision goggles,
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consider the latest polls. the president's building up a sizeable lead against his republican challenger. speaking of which, mitt romney's only got one wk until his first debates republican party's esidti mi iseeehe heat? we're joined by perry bacon and domenico. how are you? good to have both of you. it seems like mr. romney has been preparing for this debate for something like the last six or eight weeks. they say he does debate prep around the clock, in the bus, even when his butler is tying his shoes. is there something as too much preparation? >> i think that he's certainly -- these are impoant. mean, they're setting the expectations kind ofow but we know they have been doing a lot of pre you saw the obama campaign
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saying they take nothing for granted. mitt romney feeling some pressure, wanting to have good debates. theaste heeim have good debas. in fact, rob portman setting those expect takings low saying, mitt romney hasn't debated in ten years. i went back, watched the entire 2002 massachetts gubernatorial debate -- >> that's why we have you on this show. and he was very sharp, very specific, seemed to understand the state's problems better than the incumbent state treasurer. some of the problems he may have this time around with the lack of specificity, i think, is one of the issues he may run into there. >> right. comparison, how much time do you think the president has been able to devote to debate preparation? because he obviously has a fairly full desk of responsibilities, doesn't he? >> his aides have been saying he mn w i probably true.
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i do not believe for a second he has not prepared extensively for these debates. these debates are the only thing left for romney to win the campaign through. the presiden i'm sure, has prepped and made sure, how do i perfm well and div ro a ceneac into this race. as long as the president does well in these debates, he will win the election. there's no reason for him not to be practicg strongly. >> bufeed i reporting ervave mns circulating an e-mail to make september 13th a day of prayer and fasting for mr. romney so he'llucceed in his debate next week. i suppose mr. romney believes it's on a wing and a prayer, does he? >> well, certainly they'reoing preveng very hard for this debate. he certainly has a strong group of followers and supporters who are going to be absolutely rooting for him, as the president does.
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i think they're taking it very seriously and not leaving anything to chance. at mromney's recent u t experience during thos republican primaries may lull him into a false sense of security since he was debating against einsteinian figures as herman cain d michele bachmann? >> i'm sure they know the difference between rick perry and mitt romney in debate prep. they're not taking this for granted. he's done all this prep. obama was not great in the '08 debates and romney was not gre in the 2012 debas,he fhf these guys for improvement and i expect they're both studying hard to make sure they can do the best they can. i don't think they think michele bachmann and back obama is similar in skill >> thank goodness for that. gentlemen, thank you so much.
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