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will require insurers to require mental health care and addictions just like physical illnesses. he's already attended three events and spoken to the media already this morning. >> this is the largest expansion of behavioral health coverage in a generation. we have had inexcusable technology problems with we are making progress toward fixing them, but the new law is more than a website. >> when chuck todd asked president obama last night if he had full confidence in sebelius, this was his answer. >> i think kathleen sebelius under tremendously difficult circumstances over the last four and a half years has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets. >> is she still the right person to do it? >> ultimately the buck stops with me. i'm the president. this is my team. if it's not working, it's my job to get it fixed. >> joining me now, msnbc political director and chief white house correspondent chuck
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todd, msnbc political analyst and former rnc chair, michael steele, and democratic strategist kiki mclean. chuck, great interview, let's start with you. during that interview that you had with the president yesterday, completing this trifecta from the white house, speaker boehner says an apology is in order but what americans want to hear is that the president is going to keep his promise. republicans ask what does somebody have to do to get fired around here. ten republican senators have asked president obama to fire secretary sebelius. what's your thought here after that conversation. will firing somebody on the white house staff signal the end of the controversy or did this interview that you had with him do enough to stop the bleeding? >> well, i can tell you i think that they're hoping to buy some time. i don't know if you stop the bleeding, but you sort of slow it down. they certainly had a feeding frenzy developing over the president's broken promise about if you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
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and what you heard in there is the president also saying they are working on trying to figure out a way to do this, to keep this promise, at least for as many people as they can. but what i was told behind the scenes is that they're not interested in doing it with congress but instead seeing if they can do it administratively. not have to go through the legislative process, whether that's for political reasons or for administrative reasons, i think that's unclear. but as for the sebelius situation, look, it is not in this president's nature to fire -- to hand washing -- he hates this idea of handing washington a scalp, feeding the beast, if you will, saying that that's somehow necessary here. if he doesn't think she necessarily should be the fall person. that said, i found it interesting when i asked him if he still had confidence in her, he defended her, but he also said in hindsight there are probably some better questions that could have been asked. i think the secretary believes
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that too. but then he said -- that's when he said ultimately the buck stops with me. >> so the bleeding may be slowed. michael, pliolitico pointing th out. republicans who took a hit over the government shutdown believe they can turn these fresh controversies into a new opening to delegitimatize his presidency and batter his party in next year's midterms. what's the playbook here for republicans? step back, let this implode on its own, pile on or some are saying, hey, offer a solution here. >> well, i think it's both actually, richard. i think they should let the democrats own that which they have created and let the president go out here and explain and let sebelius explain and the american people continue to ask the questions that are pertinent to them. meanwhile, i think the house in particular begin to offer up identified solutions to fix those things that we know are troubling or problematic in the law, as we currently see it. i think it's not enough to sit
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there and just say, you know, bad obama care, bad obama care, it's got to -- you've got to put something else on the table because the american people do have an expectation that if you take this away, what will then replace it. it's not enough to just say that this isn't good. so i think the party certainly, but the policy leadership in the house have been opportunity to reframe this discussion around some better ideas and solutions to fix what is clearly problematic with obama care. >> kiki, i want to get your take on chuck's interview here. ezra klein pointed out that the president apologized not for the policy but for americans finding themselves in this situation based on assurances that they got from him. in effect he was saying here that he's apologizing for a broken individual insurance market, that he shouldn't be doing that. that's what ezra was saying. what's your take on his apology? >> he was apologizing for a difficulty for a very small
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number of the population that are affected by the whole affordable care act. look, let's remember this is really big, significant change. and it doesn't come easy and there are glitches and there are problems. and one of the things that i admire about this president and lord knows i've been tough on him as a democrat some days is that he is willing to look up and say in the big picture, this piece isn't working, what do we need to do. in the big picture, we are doing the right thing but we've got to make sure we make the adjustments to make it even better. and that's what at the end of the day this is about. you know, michael steele is a smart man and he gives good counsel to his own party, which is don't get so excited about this because i promise you, and it's a promise i'm willing to go out on a limb an make, before it's all said and done, more americans will have coverage, they will have better coverage, they will be happy they have coverage and our economy will be better for it. at the end of the day that's going to prove a benefit for america and not a political liability for republicans to extort, especially when they're not prepared to offer up their
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own solutions. and that's really been a big vacuum these last six years of the whole debate and controversy around health care reform. so, again, i admire a president who steps up and says i'm sorry this is difficult for you. i'm going to look into this to see what we can do, but the overall program and the overall idea of what change is occurring is going to move forward. >> chuck, you got to speak with texas governor rick perry on your show earlier on and he was critical of what the president has done and said. you've got the red state governors as we have been seeing refusing to expand medicaid in their states. we've got a couple of things happening in the coming weeks. you've got more white house officials that will be moving forward and saying -- going to capitol hill and having to talk on this issue itself. the house plan to keep your health care plan votes, plan on doing that as well. are things going to get worse before they get better here? >> well, to me it all looks -- i would look to november 30th. there's all sorts of potential new feeding frenzies based off
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of this change. i think the biggest one is going to be the enrollment numbers among healthier americans under the age of 35 or 40. and that's something we're really not going to know until december, possibly really until january when we find out what those december numbers are, but it really is all about this november 30th deadline. the president himself talking about it. they have put so much into making that deadline. if they don't make that deadline, if this website is not smoothly run, they have got much bigger problems. >> we have to leave it there. thank you so much, chuck, as well as michael and kiki, you guys have a great weekend. and be sure to watch "the daily rundown" weekdays at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc. today's question, presidential apology, did it help or hurt obama care's image. developing right now, the october jobs report beat estimates by some 80,000. last month saw 204,000 jobs created. the report says the 16-day government shutdown had no
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discernible impact on hiring, however, the unemployment rate rose to 7.3% from september's nearly five-year low of 7.2. wall street's reaction so far up 73 and change. we're looking at the dow, nasdaq up 39 and change. joining us live is jared bernstein, former chief economist for vice president joe biden and he's now an msnbc contributor. so the markets not taking that negatively. also, jared, there were revised figures that we saw from previous months, an additional 60,000 jobs. when you look at the report right now, what does it tell you? >> well, one thing it tells you is that the underlying american economy is a lot more resilient than people realize. i think we're not out of the woods by a long shot, whether we're talking about yesterday's upside surprise on the gdp report or today's upside tick on the jobs numbers. in other words, even with these better-than-expected results and the revisions, things are moving too slowly to knock that
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unemployment rate down quickly. on the other hand, we've thrown a lot at this economy, including most recently a government shutdown, and we're still creating jobs in the private sector for the most part. >> you know, there were big gains in retail, yet we did see a step back in federal government jobs. very small comparatively here. you add that on to what you've just said and one might say why didn't we see a bigger impact on retail, which might be normal, and why wouldn't we see a bigger number when it comes to government jobs that have gone sgloun down. >> so the government thing has to do with the methodology they employ. when government employees are furlou furloughed, they're still counted. we consider them at work. so that you won't find. but what economists thought we'd see more of in this report was the kind of knock-on effects on retail and restaurants and the cafe outside the shutdown national park. you didn't see that much of
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that. i will say this, one thing you have to keep in mind and you saw this more in the other side, the unemployment side of the survey, there you see some of the results from the government shutdown and they did boost the unemployment rate and reduce the labor force participation. >> what are the estimations of the loss in terms of economic impact. we also saw number that say came out in terms of the cost of the furlough, some $2 billion. are those impacts we'll see in the next job report, perhaps? >> perhaps. where we expect to see those is in the fourth quarter gdp report. remember that's october. that's the first month of the third quarter. and so in the next gdp report we should shave, i don't know, maybe something like 0.3 of a point off growth because of the shutdown. >> got it. let's get on to twitter right now. it's closed, what, 70%, 80% higher than the ipo was itself. what's your take on that? is this a good time to buy then? >> you know, i wrote about it last night. i really -- i don't know that anyone can give you much advice about the price itself, because
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i heard analysts on both sides with very strongly held positions. what i will say is this. this was a pretty impressive rollout, especially if you think about facebook. the new york stock exchange can kind of thumb their nose to the nasdaq right now because that rollout, that ipo went quite well for twitter, and it's also in the midst of some pretty glum stuff going on in the economy. i consider it sort of positive. here's an innovative, interesting, fun company and they had a successful ipo and raised a lot of capital. that said, it's not going to change any of the fundamental economic problems that will be setting middle and low income people. >> jared bernstein, thank you so much. msnbc and cnbc contributor. president obama will speak about the economy in the 1:00 p.m. hour here on msnbc. be sure to tune in for our live coverage there. he's admitted to smoking crack. now toronto's mayor has another problem. a newly released video of him going on a violent rant. take a look. >> he dies or i die.
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ten months since their son's mysterious death, the family of kendrick johnson has finally obtained school surveillance videos on the day he died but those videos are raising more questions than giving answers.
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wednesday authorities released nearly 1900 hours of footage from 36 camera, it shows the georgia teenager walking through the school's hallway, entering the gym, and playing with his schoolmates. lower right-hand corner for you. the camera that would have captured how kendrick ended up in a wrestling mat where he was found dead was motion-sensored and recorded a blurry image. now the family is demanding a coroner's inquest which would reopen the case and find justice. joining me are kendrick's parents and their attorneys as well. thank you all four for joining us on msnbc today. mr. johnson, i want to start with you. we reached out to the local police department but we haven't heard back from them as of yet. what concerns you about the tapes that you've been able to view so far that were released? >> well, the video, you can see people jumping in and out of the
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screen shots and the quality of the video is just -- some images just don't show good. >> and what's your thought when you don't feel like it's showing very well? >> well, you know, what my thought is, you know, that it had been tampered with. >> and, mrs. johnson, is your family being optimistic now that the federal prosecutors have stepped into this process? >> yes, we are. we still just are waiting to see what they're going to find out and we still want to go on with our investigation. >> your husband just said that he thought there's a possibility of the video being tampered with. why do you think that may have happened? >> to cover up what they started covering up from the beginning. >> and do you believe that, again, with the federal investigators involved that that might find out why they may have wanted to tamper with this, if that is the case? >> yes. >> mr. johnson, one more
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question for you here before i speak with your lawyers. you've seen some conflicting reports from the two autopsies that were performed on your son. as you've gotten more information about these various reports, what do you make of that, why they might be different? >> because the second one pretty much interact with the report of the emt report and the first one, it just -- it's impossible how they say that he died. >> mr. crump, as you are digging into this case at the moment, you're getting answers perhaps or maybe no answers based on what you want. there's the issue of the time stamps on the video, for instance, that's one issue. then there's also the blurry video and police are saying that a ball had hit the camera and that's why some of the video is a bit blurry. and then there's the motion
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sensor that didn't pick up the movement that would have caught the area where kendrick allegedly fell into that mat. what's your response to all of that information that's coming in right now? >> richard, kendrick johnson's death is a real tragedy and it's a real murder mystery for these parents. they only want the truth. and when you see things like 36 cameras in that school, 36 angles, all of them are clear and vivid except the one camera that is pointed to the wrestling mat back in the corner. that's blurry and that is distorted. it just flies -- there's too much of a coincidence. also when you think about the fact that this family through attorney king had to sue, had to file a lawsuit just to get the video released that do tell them the truth of what happened to their son, why should they have
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to go through all of that? why can't they get the right video? we know that this video just seems to be corrupted when you just apply the common sense test that we have time stamps on pictures but we don't have time stamps on what they released to us. >> mrs. johnson, kendrick's friends and supporters have spoken so favorably of him but what can you tell us about your son and what he was like. >> he was funny. he played three sports. he was a kid anybody would love to have. >> we thank you both so much, mr. and mrs. johnson. i know it's a very difficult time for you. appreciate your time for coming by today as well as attorneys benjamin crump and c.b. king. thank you very much. developing now, what could be the largest storm ever recorded is now moving toward vietnam after hammering the philippines and being blamed for at least four deaths. the u.s. navy saying typhoon
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it'll be over in five minutes. it will be a bad -- [ bleep ] dude. >> shortly after the toronto star released that video, ford called a meeting with reporters outside his office to apologize but did not reveal the target of his threats. >> it's extremely embarrassing. the whole world is going to see it. you know what, i don't have a problem with that, but it is extremely embarrassing. obviously i was extremely, extremely angry. >> okay. so this comes just days after the mayor admitted to smoking crack cocaine, as you might remember, which purportedly was caught on an unreleased videotape. ron mott is live in toronto with the story of what's got to be the craziest mayor in north america. ron, sometimes we do stories and there's not a lot to talk about, but with all this coming together. the mayor still refusing to step down, you've got to ask what's
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next? >> exactly, richard. a lot of folks asking that question, what is next. we can tell you a lot of folks camped out on the second floor of the city complex behind me waiting for the mayor to come into the office today. we think he's going to come in sometime after lunch. he's refused to step down. we can tell you this morning his brother, doug, said that it might be a good idea for his brother to step away for a couple of weeks to get his act together, to get his life together. we'll have to see if the mayor addresses that when he comes into the office today. last night on tv his mother and his sister took to the air waves. his sister is a former recovering drug addict herself. was asked if she thought her brother had an addictions problem and she said no. her mother said she's had some conversations with her son about what she thinks he needs to do to get out of the mess that he's in at the moment. take a look at this. >> number one, five steps. get yourself a driver. then after that, you do something about your weight.
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and thirdly, what was the other thing i told him. >> about that car, the thing -- >> the alcohol detector in the car? >> yeah, an alcohol detector in the car and that will prove you can't drive your car if you're drinking, so you're just not going to do that. >> well, obviously a lot of things on rob ford's mind going forward here on this friday, richard. one thing we can tell you, it's very difficult to get rid of an elected official in this town, so some of the city counselors are looking to see if they could pass new legislation that would effectively give them the power to remove the mayor from office. still a lot of things that can happen with this story. back to you. >> thank you so much. nbc's ron mott in toronto with that story for us on this friday. up next, more of nbc chuck todd's interview with president obama. he asks whether the white house really considered switching out vice president joe biden with hillary clinton. our agenda panel weighs in. smi. with crest 3d white toothpaste. smi. it removes up to 90% of surface stains in just 5 days.
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did you really not know that your campaign was researching this idea of swapping joe biden for hillary clinton? >> people do all kinds of stuff. some of it they clear with me, sometimes they're trying to figure something out. if they had asked me, i would have said there is no way that i'm not running again with joe biden, because i genuinely believe that he has been one of the best vice presidents in our history. he also happens to be a friend. he also happens to be one of my most important advisers on domestic and foreign policy. i like him. when my back is up against the wall, he has my back. >> president obama sticking by vice president joe biden in his exclusive interview with nbc's chuck todd. meanwhile it seems nearly everybody in the gop is hating on new jersey governor chris christie these days. there's a lot for our agenda panel to chew on on this friday. joining us special correspondent for the keli goff. also ryan grim and jonathan
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cohn, a senior editor at the new republic. kelly, let's start with you. what do you make of this possibility that's discussed of swapping out joe biden. >> with all due respect to the president, i think we saw his nose growing a little bit when he new absolutely nothing anybody was discussing this. do i think he heard chatter people said we might be doing some polling to swap him with hillary, yeah. >> but that is possible that the president may be shielded from that discussion? >> look, this is deja vu all over again. let's not forget president bush said at one point he was considering possibly swapping out dick cheney. i don't think this is completely crazy. i wrote about it actually last year, an article whether it would boost the president if they did just that because polling seemed to indicate it might and also gaubecause the g as has so many women candidates they were lifting at the time. >> ryan, the authors of "double
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down" say when vice president biden was tested against hillary clinton, they basically came in about the same level. there wasn't much difference evidently. what might have happened if hillary clinton did test higher? >> well, i mean immediately it would have looked a little bit desperate. you know, what is obama trying to compensate for here by putting in hillary clinton and dumping joe biden. and they didn't want that. they certainly didn't want that sense of desperation. but if she had become vice president and was now vice president, it would only solidify her position as the kind of president in waiting, which she already has just with her kind of consulting gig that she has with the clinton project or whatever it is she's doing. she's the president -- she's this designated president in waiting. >> jonathan, that's your thought? >> well, you know, this strikes me as one of these classic situations where the strategists who were thinking about this are kind of missing the big picture.
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whether or not biden polls higher or not, when you think about what made obama an appealing candidate, part of the fact is that he's stable, he's steady, he doesn't change his mind a lot, he's responsible. suddenly switching vice presidential candidates, you know, after one term, i just think that would have looked -- it would have looked out of character for him and would have actually hurt his, you know what they call his overall brand. >> let's turn to our second topic for the agenda panel today. chris christie, 2016, texas governor rick perry on msnbc's "daily rundown" this morning. chuck todd asked him if christie is conservative enough to be the nominee. listen. >> there's a lot of time between now and 2016. i would suggest governor christie and the rest of us need to focus on 2014, making sure that we elect more governors that have those policies put in place to create jobs, to create wealth, to be the juxtaposition.
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>> kelly, does he have the cred here to get it done in the primaries? >> here's what interesting is chris christie has more conservative street cred than mitt romney was. mitt romney was on the record was being pro gun control before he wasn't. chris christie combines the best qualities of a giuliani and a romney, which is not a bad thing for conservatives, even though there's a liberal narrative that he's not going to get past the primary. i think he'll have an easier role in the primaries than romney did. >> that he can maneuver through the primaries and into the general election. jonathan, chris christie is getting a lot of mainstream attention as well. here he is on the new "michael j. fox show." >> we'll be speaking to the governor of new jersey, chris christie. governor, welcome. >> mike, thanks for having me. i'm so glad to see you back doing your job. i find your story so inspiring. in fact i think it's so inspiring that there's been a lot of speculation about things and i feel so inspired that i
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think i should make an announcement, so mike -- >> a little snooze there. mitt romney saying that governor christie could save the republican party but then again, as was noted by kelly, mitt romney wasn't a conservative favorite either. >> right. the question with christie, it's all about his temperament plays. on the one hand for the republican base, they're going to remember that christie was the guy paling around with president obama. there was that great "saturday night live" sketch where he was just lavishing praise on obama. obviously in the republican base, they hate obama so maybe that cuts the wrong way. on the other hand, we're talking about a very fiesty guy, a guy who gets angry, a guy who can be pretty nasty. maybe that taps into the anger in the tea party and maybe because of that, you know, they're willing to overlook some of his things and willing to overlook the fact he has said nice things about obama. so it's really a question of which one of those plays more psychological
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psychologically. >> ryan, quickly here, more of christie in the primary, he's going to have to face a bunch of tea party favorites. here they are taking him on. >> we need moderates like chris christie who can win in new jersey in our party. what that means about the national party, i'm not sure there's an answer. >> every race is particular to the state that it's run in so there are factors in new jersey that i think are individual to that race. >> governor christie has certainly shown a way of winning in new jersey and states like new jersey. >> you know, another potential 2016 rival, senator ted cruz, hasn't shown christie much love. what's your thought, will it be christie versus the tea party basically? >> yes. and the tea party candidates, perry, cruz, paul, they want to make sure that they can get in front of any inevitable tee that starts to build up because once that happens, they're worried that he could steam roll his way to the nomination because the republican primary electorate
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does have a long history of electing the person that they think is able to beat the democrat. and as much as they hate obama, republicans, you know, just despised president clinton and hillary clinton will be just the same for them. >> thank you so much, keli goff, ryan grim, jonathan cohn. chris christie joins david gr gregory this sunday on "meet the press." you can find more on our panel on our website, in russia, last-minute preparations are under way on the eve of the miss universe competition. thomas roberts has been in russia all week rehearsing for his role as co-host of the competition, but also to get an inside look at the impact of the country's new anti-gay propaganda law. thomas joins us from moscow with a behind-the-scenes look at the last-minute miss universe preparations. >> richard, good morning. it is afternoon time here in
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moscow, and we are in the thick of it for the rehearsals for tomorrow night's miss universe pageant. this is city hall here in moscow and we have been in rehearsals for the last few days. these women who are competing in the miss universe competition have been here for the last several weeks as they have been preparing for the crowning moment tomorrow night. behind me on stage they're gearing up for the final act. i just jumped away to come over here and take this minute to talk to you. but there you can see the 86 competitors that are lining up for the final act, the final act being the crowning moment. interesting, though, we've run through this a couple of times. just so you know, the top five are the ones that are going to be crowned, one of them anyway. well, they have run through this so many times that different sets of countries actually get to be part of the top five but none of them ever actually get to practice the crowning moment. there's someone on staff here who always plays that part. so none of the girls actually get an opportunity to know what it's like to hear their name called for miss universe until the moment that it happens, which will be saturday night at
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9:00 on nbc. now, my co-host is the incredible and awesome mel b. she has been so much fun, this has been such an adventure. meanwhile we have two stand-ins. mine is a cute guy named vlad, who is younger, has better hair than me and is doing a better job with the teleprompter. i'm going to get back on stage and finish up but we hope you tune in tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. and watch miss universe. >> i'm sure you are going to kick butt there. again, thank you for that report. remember to check out thomas' video diary at join the discussion on the agenda setters and get real-time updates on twitter, instagram and facebook. you can watch the competition as thomas was telling us, nbc tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern. well, today's producer pick comes to us from executive producer anika thompson. vice president joe biden has done it again. he called a second wrong number,
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went far beyond the traditional locker room hazing. it goes on to say jonathan endured a malicious fiphysical attack on him by a teammate and daily vulgar comments. it includes a direct quote with a teammate threatening sexual acts against martin's sister. newly revealed documents alleged richie incognito displayed inappropriate behavior at a dolphins golf tournament a year and a half ago. he was not arrested on charged in that incident. joining me live via skype, cam cleeland, a pro bowler voted team mvp his rookie year and a rookie of the year runner-up. cam, thanks for speaking with us on this friday. you know, you recently spoke to the "l.a. times" about your own experience with bullying in the nfl. and in the article it says you were clubbed in the face by a sock filled with coins. coins that free agent linebacker andre royal the spent all day
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collecting from teammates. nobody knew what he planned to do with them, but they had donated them by the fistful. that's what it says in the article. you also say that particular incident shattered your eye socket and nearly cost you your eye. and you also mention being kickkick ed and punched. you suffered a broken nose. all of these things in this article here. can you give us a better sense of what may have happened here. was it this severe? >> well, i would say it was that severe. i mean back in the nfl -- this was something that was tradition, that the saints had done for quite a while. obviously being a rookie coming from the university of washington, i wasn't quite aware. i've always heard about hazing in a sense or taking each other's pads, sicking a fight song, that was pretty norm. this was quite a bit different and something at the end of training camp that night that had been tradition. if you didn't participate in that, they would have broke down your door or if they locked you
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in, they probably would have found a way to get you, throwing things underneath the door, destroying everything. so you pretty much either had to go through or it was part of the initiation to be part of that team. >> you're saying quite a while. how long is quite a while that this was going on. >> i'm not sure how many years it happened. i was there in '98. i know that it happened previously at least two years before that. so it was somewhat of a tradition that they did. >> when does this sort of activity start? did you experience it at all in college? have you heard about that happening in the ncaa? >> i haven't heard about it -- not to that severity of a level. i mean part of being an athlete is you're with your guys, you're with these guys all the time. you're going to have time where you need to have -- let your guard down, joke, have thick skin in this sport. that's what it takes. it takes a little bit of thick skin. you know, unfortunately to that level, i look back on that and that was just a little bit too far i would have to say. >> i want to also read what you told the "l.a. times."
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this about richie incognito, the person in the middle of the investigation right now. you say, quote, i'm not afraid to say that he was an immature, unrealistic, scum bag, end quote. those are your words. yet, you know, he was rejected by some teams along the way. what do you think here, what made him so difficult? >> you know, i'm definitely not a psychologist or a therapist so i can't give you a quote what made him so mindwise -- >> tell us mow about incog neelt owe and what you know about him. >> well, he's a unique individual. i can't say it any differently. he had a hard time in our locker room in st. louis with the group of offensive linemen we had. he ended up having a problem with coach spagnola, that's what got him out of there. i'm not quite sure what's wrong with him or what it is, but his continuity in the locker room just in that scenario, what i observed with him, wasn't successful for that team and i was always curious why a guy like that should be on a football program. >> so is this activity you're hearing about surprise you? >> no, not at all.
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presidential hopefuls for decades, the place where san diego spend months, sometimes years courting the state's 99 counties hoping to win its first in the nation vote. mike lee headed to speak at the faith and freedom fundraiser sparking 2003 speculation, rick perry was there speaking fondly of his time in 2012. that year's caucus is the subject of a new documentary aptly titled "caucus." once every four years iowa caucuses, we're watching what happens there. so much rides on the people of iowa. >> since 1972 iowa voters have
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been the first in the country to take part in the presidential nominating process. >> one of the biggest political events of the year, the iowa caucus under way today. >> this is a night we've been waiting for for a long, long time. >> this race has been about two candidates. the problem is it hasn't been the same two candidates for two months in a row. >> joining me "caucus" filmmaker. angela, gave awe list of hopefuls through the state of iowa. add ted cruz has been there three times, rand paul at least twice so far. how does the current cycles look to 2016 compare to what you saw in 2012. >> i don't think if i make documentaries for a long time i'll ever have that cast. all big personalities. >> draw that distinction for me. >> i think as a filmmaker you want to have all your characters have something that jumps out. when you have someone like
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herman cain who is not a politician professionally. you've got newt gingrich, former speaker, michele bachmann, all have big personalities, charismatic. seeing them interact with people was great. i don't know what the next round of candidates will be but it will ploebl be interesting. >> we were watching rick santorum as part whaf we were playing. as you were speaking at iowans looking at that candidate as opposed to mitt romney, what resonated more. >> they loved retail politics. in the final days of a campaign you'd see people at an event, mitt romney or rand paul, i think e-mail going to vote for rick perry but i have to see ron paul before i make the decision. that is something in iowa they take seriously about going an seeing every person. if you are the kind of candidate who will go to them and not do
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the hour outside of des moines but go to the very northwest corner, i think they take that seriously. >> another part of reins here. iowa picked about 50% in terms of their success in predicting the presidential nominee. so as we look at the democrats, what does iowa mean for them? >> for the democrats? in the next election, i think it will be interesting to see if it's a coronation depending who runs. >> we look back to 2012 -- 2008 and that was very key. >> that was a big fight. also 2004 when john kerry came behind at the last minute and won. he had been pretty much swept the primaries after that. >> thank you for coming by this friday. happy friday. that wraps up things for me. a reminder leading up to veterans day, watching "taking the hill" hosted by patrick murphy right here on msnbc. "now" with alex wagner, that's next. my customers can shop around--
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he said he's sorry. does he need to send flowers? it's friday november 8th, and this is "now." don't call it a comeback. to indignant conservatives, frustrated americans and beleaguered democrats, president obama issued an apology for the first time last night expressing regret over the disastrous rollout of the nation's health care law. facing tough questions about broken promises and broken websites, the president was contrite. >> first of all, i meant what i said. we worked hard to try to make sure that we implemented it properly. obviously we didn't do a good enough job and i regret that. i am sorry they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me. we've got to


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