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good morning. i'm chris jansing. yes, it's early, but the numbers are really interesting and the donors are already lining up. talking about the brand new nbc news poll that looks at the hypothetical matchup between hillary clinton and chris christie. and she's up ten points on the newly elected new jersey governor. she wins african-americans by nearly 80 points. she's winning young people under the age of 30 and latinos. dominating every single region of the country. hillary clinton beats chris christie in the northeast, the west, the south and the midwest. however, chris christie pulls ahead with whites, seniors and people who earn more than $75,000 a year. so with all the 2016 speculation fitting that today is the first national finance strategy meeting for the ready for hillary super pac. >> there are over 500,000 people who have already pledged to
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help. over 1.1 million people signed up on the ready for hillary website. 25,000 donations. >> so political bigwigs and 170 donors are getting together here in new york to start paving the road to what they hope will be a 2016 victory. but republicans are plotting some strategy of their own. a new firm sets out to secure women's votes for a vulnerable gop. "the new york times" reporting that a brand new group claims to be the first republican firm aimed specifically at wooing women voters. let me bring in our company. joy ann reid, josh marshal, the founder and editor of talking points memo. good morning. >> good morning. >> so early, we get this. joy ann, do these numbers tell us anything? >> i think they do. hillary clinton has a lot of core strength. obviously women are very hungry to have their opportunity to get the white house after what happened in 2008 as sort of the near miss hillary had, nearly shattering the glass ceiling. she also has a few other things going for her. the clintons are very good at
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wooing working class, white voters and she has that strength in the midwest, the west, roots in pennsylvania as well as in illinois. she has an infrastructure left over partly from her run but also from the obama campaign. there are a lot of obama people beginning to creep toward the hillary effort and you saw that she dominates with african-americans. i think that sort of explodes a little bit this myth that because shaquille o'neal did one commercial for chris christie he can magically win black voters. >> every single time we have a presidential race, the look of the electorate is changing and it's going to continue to change. one of the things they're doing at this meeting, ready for hillary, is looking at what they call emerging constituencies, women, african-americans, latinos, the lbgt voter. they have a panel that is what america will look like in 2016. josh, if you look at virginia, for example, as kind of a microcosm of the country, that's going to win or lose this coming 2016 election? >> well, you look at those numbers and that's really how obama won.
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if it looks anything like that, it's going to be a hillary victory because she has the obama coalition pretty much stitched up. as you say, she also has strength in the one place that obama always had relative weakness, which was white working class voters, the midwest and the south, places like that. i also think what you see is that chris christie is just not a strong presidential candidate for the republican party. if you look into that poll, he's the most popular republican potential nominee in the northeast. but like the republican party doesn't live in the northeast. >> but you can also make the argument if you're chris christie supporter that the rest of the country hasn't gotten to know him the way that new jersey and northeastern voters have gotten to know him. and when you talk to republican strategists, one of the arguments that they make about a potential hillary candidacy is that democrats assume women will vote for another woman at their own peril, that they don't believe this will happen, which is one of the reasons why these three women are getting together.
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they're going to try and heparins get out the women's vote. if the matchup is hillary versus christie, is it a foregone conclusion that she's going to win the vast majority of the women's vote? >> i think most women wind up voting for democrats but it's a little more complicated than that. democrats dominate among minority women. latino women and african-american women pull it in for the democratic party. unmarried women are really the swing constituency in the overall female vote. >> imagine if they start to get out the vote with that group in much bigger numbers because they have not voted in huge numbers. >> typically democrats are very good at bringing ot constituencies. the issues where republicans have hurt themselves, not necessarily among married white women but unmarried women and that's a huge x factor that plays to hillary's advantage. >> i want to bring in donna edwards, democrat from maryland. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning. >> you've said hillary will win
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the nomination. is that an official endorsement? >> i tell you what, i think it's really close. i think it's a little too early. but joy reid just hit on something really important and that is unmarried white women. the race that i've been looking at is the terry mcauliffe race in virginia as a sign of what democrats need to do. forget chris christie and his election, only 38% voter turnout. record low voter turnout there. virginia, high voter turnout and unmarried women, who turned the tide for terry mcauliffe. >> some of the conversation on "morning joe" this morning i thought was really interesting. republican strategist steve schmidt said something that i want to play and get your reaction. >> there's change elections and there's more of the same election. if you look at where we are right now, it looks like we're heading into a change election. and that gives the republican candidate, particularly if they're from outside of washington -- >> are you concerned that after eight years of president obama people will be looking for
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change and maybe looking for a fresh face and turn away from hillary. >> well, if they look for change they're going to look for hillary because the change will be electing a woman for the first time. but also an unbelievable candidate who's qualified to run and to govern. and i think that that's what voters are going to look for. there's a lot that's going to happen between now and 2016. so we all ought to be on the lookout. >> some of the questions in the last 24 hours have asked if hillary clinton is progressive enough. questions were raised after a piece in the new republic highlighted elizabeth warren as a possible 2016 contender. a lot of people are picking up on that. there were more articles today. do you think if hillary clinton wants to be the nominee she's going to have to move left? >> well, i think what hillary clinton has to do is make the case to all of us who are progressive and frankly i'm a progressive and she's making the case to me. and i think especially in terms of where we want to see this economy go, how we want it to work for all of us, especially for women, i think hillary clinton is well on her way and
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it's going to take, you know, an unbelievable democrat to come and unseat her from that nomination. frankly, elizabeth warren has also said that she supports hillary clinton. >> i want to ask you about a couple of other things that are in the news now. start with health care. we're expecting official numbers from the administration this week, but the "wall street journal" is reporting that less than 50,000 people have enrolled. are you concerned that this poor rollout is going to have longer term effects? >> well, i think there's no question all of us acknowledge, including the president, that the rollout has been horrible. but i have to tell you, it doesn't surprise me at all that there's low enrollment in the beginning. i think that things are going to pick up. the key to that obviously is getting the website working, making sure that the state exchanges are functioning and that people understand what their choices are. and i think like a lot of internet shoppers, especially for something as important as health care, you know, we might go a number of different times, throw things in the cart, take things out of the cart and then finally close in on a purchase
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as we get closer to that deadline. and so i just want it to work because for 450,000 marylanders who are without health care, really the system needs to work. >> and i want to ask you about another poll that's just out. 76% of americans support raising the federal minimum wage. that's 5 points higher than it was in march. can supporters in congress use those numbers to make a realistic push to pass legislation, do you think? >> well, i hope so because i've joined with my colleague, george miller from california, in introducing an increase in the minimum wage to $10.25 an hour. i think that it's really important to do. i mean wages have to keep pace with inflation and they haven't done that. >> but the question is how do you get it done, congresswoman. there were strong numbers for immigration. there were 90% support numbers for background checks and nothing got done. how do you get it done? >> interestingly enough, i think this is one of these things where voters all across the country in every single congressional district are going to have to say to their members
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of congress get this done and raise the minimum wage and tie it to inflation so we don't have to have this argument again. i think it's possible to do that. but the political winds need to go in the right way. and the only people who can make a difference are voters at home. >> congressman donna edwards, always good to see you. thanks for coming on the program. >> thank you. josh, that gallup number that we referred to includes 58% of self-identified republicans say they are in favor of raising the minimum wage. is that the kind of number that gives any indication at all that something might get done? >> i think, unfortunately, the answer is no. we've seen this before with immigration reform and it's really too bad because it's something that you look at the chart, the real value of the minimum wage has been tracking down for like a half a century. but the gop house caucus, especially that kind of tea party core, has shown with several issues now they really don't care what the country in general thinks. they care what the fairly heavily gerrymandered
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constituencies in their district think. look at immigration reform. immigration reform has -- it blew through the senate where there's a lot of republicans, it has lots of -- lots of support around the country. and any republican strategists all see that if it doesn't happen, it's going to be brutal for the republican party, you know, every two years now until forever until it happens. but none of that really fazed house republicans. and now it's pretty clear that it's dead not just in 2013 but in 2014. >> and you're shaking your head. is there any indication at all that anybody significantly is going to pay a price for these kinds of decisions that would seem to fly in the face of what the national will is? >> it's kind of ironic. i would say probably not. even in some of these districts where people themselves make close to the minimum wage or are lower middle class or working class, there's this ideological opposition to anything seen as anti-business. it's funny because the corporate wing of the republican party has never had less influence over the party itself. they want immigration reform in the corporate wing. they did not want to shut down
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the government. they were against things like not fixing the sequester. they have had absolutely no influence over house republicans except in two areas, taxes and things like minimum wage that really go to the benefit of lower income workers. there is an ideology that is in opposition to people who are of lower income that is so entrenched and so a part of the ideological makeup of the republican party that i don't think it matters if it was 100% or 99% support in the rest of the country, they're just not going to do it. >> where is it coming from, josh. she does make a good point that so many issues that seem to serve business, they don't care about them anyway, so -- >> right, right, right. i think what's happening here, you're right, it is about ideology. i would be very surprised if either one of these things moves through the house in the next 18 months or i guess a year now. but there's one thing, you know, as political observers, we always tend to project the present indefinitely out into the future. if you go back to the beginning of 2005, people were writing
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books saying republican majorities forever. 2006 the democrats crushed the gop majorities in the house and the senate. now, i'm not saying that's going to happen. but i do think we need to be open to the possibility that we really don't know what's going to happen a year from now. you have so many different things in motion. some things -- a lot of things helping democrats, some things helping the republicans. i think we all need to be a lot less confident that we know what's going to happen in 2014. it could be fairly dramatic. >> josh marshall, joy ann reid, great to see both of you. thank you for coming in. hundreds of thousands of people displaced after typhoon haiyan and another tropical storm is headed their way. can this community even take another hit? we'll take you to the philippines for a live report. plus does being tough as nails, bar fighting and groping women make you a man? is this the source behind the allegations of bullying in the nfl? we'll hear the connection next. charitable giving. really.
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former president bill clinton has just weighed in on the obama care rollout, hinting at perhaps changing the law. in an online interview he talked about president obama's promise that americans could keep their health care plans if they like them. clinton said, quote, i personally believe even if it takes a change in the law the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people an let them keep what they got. meantime the ever-growing controversy around allegations of bullying in the miami dolphins locker room may mean offensive lineman jonathan martin doesn't play again this season and he could be completely done with the team. martin left soon after he made the allegations and is expected to release a video statement sometime this week giving his side of the story.
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team owner steve ross says he will meet with martin to discuss the situation and he talked about the nature of the locker room and the need to change it. >> we all know that the football locker room is a different workplace than most of us are accustomed to. basically i don't want to make any excuses, i want to know that our workplace going forward will be the best workplace that you can find in the nfl. >> dave zirin, sports editor, omar kelly, beat columnist for the south florida sun-sentinel. good morning, guys. in your blog, dave, you wrote this. what makes a man? is it being a tough as nails, bar-fighting, woman-groping, n-bomb dropping gem like richie incognito or is it like jonathan martin who had the guts to break the locker room code of silence and after enduring a malicious attack on him by a teammate and having his sister threatened said he could not take it
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anymore? you just heard this described as a different workplace. but is this the nfl culture? >> i mean it's an nfl culture that varies from team to team. one of the toughest things about this story has been trying to disentangle what is inherently nfl. what is inherently there about the nfl locker room and what is particularly toxic about what has happened in miami. and i think it's worth figuring out what those differences are, so we can challenge what we don't like to change. first and foremost we've got to be clear. being an nfl football player, it's a union job. you're part of the afl-cio. you should not have to feel threatened when you go to work every day. you should not have to hear racial epithets, you should not have to hear about your sister or your mother being abused, that should be unacceptable and that occurs in far too many nfl locker rooms. now that being said, it's also pretty clear that many nfl locker rooms, that kind of nonsense is policed. in the chicago bears locker
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room, for example, the coaches make it very clear that hazing is not allowed, and yet in the miami dolphins locker room it is allowed. and what you have to point out to people watching right now is that these players don't have guaranteed contracts and so nothing -- they're there at the pleasure of the coach and nothing really happens without the approval of the coach and of the people in charge. and that's why i think they're going to be the people who take a fall when this is all said and done. >> omar, a former denver player, nate jackson, wrote about how rookies were hazed when he was there during training camp. quote, rookies get it the worst because they must be initiated. shower check rook. that means you have to give up your shower head even if you're soaped up. seat check, stand up, give me your seat, get another one. how much do we know about how much this is happening and in how many nfl locker rooms? >> yes, it's indeed part of the culture of the nfl and in fact it's part of the culture in college as well. back when i covered the
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university of miami for a rookie to be accepted. he had to completely shave his head. certainly that's changed over the years, but in the nfl locker room, you know, two years ago they started rookie dyeing their hair, shaving patches into their hair, giving guys checkered hair cuts. you know, caleb sturgis, the kicker for the dolphins this year his hair was dyed platinum blonde and he was given a miley cyrusesque haircut. this is just part of the course of what is acceptable in the nfl culture. they say it's a rite of passage of the young players. as a veteran you're teaching them, mentoring them, and somehow some way subjecting them to abuse should be tolerated. that's something that you'll definitely probably see the nfl change. they're going to create some sort of language in their code of conduct that determines what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. in my opinion, i don't think anything is acceptable. i think this comes into the same line of fraternity hazing. while it's not accepted by the
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mainstream universities in the culture, it's still looked the other way and still goes on. >> steve ross announced that he did form this committee to advise the team how to improve this locker room culture. some big names on it, tony dungy, don shula, former quarterback dan marino, jason taylor, former jets running back curtis martin. if this is part of what the nfl culture is, dave, how tough is it going to be to change? >> well, it's going to have to change because we're not living in an era where the locker room is a sealed environment anymore. we're living in an era of social media, where people keep their voice mails, where people keep their e-mails and if there's somebody who wants to blow the whistle, they're going to have a lot of material evidence to move forward with. let me explain also why the nfl will move heaven and earth to make this change. we just came off a month, remember, where nfl players are wearing pink on the field. i'm not trying to doubt their commitment to fighting breast cancer but a lot of that is to appeal to women, to make it clear to them -- they're also
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holding moms across the country but to make it clear to women that playing in the nfl is not an express route to concussions and chronic traumatic encephalopathy, it is a positive route let for your sons. when you have an incident like this happens, it actually runs counter to that entirely carefully crafted message. so that's why the nfl is trying to make it very, very clear this is not boys will be boys. this will not pass as a locker room culture in the 21st century. >> part of that whole thing has been the component of the story that's race relations and how it fits in. the nfl former pittsburgh steelers wide receiver hines ward, who is biracial, talked about that on "morning joe" today. >> i can understand and relate to jonathan martin's situation of you really don't know how to deal with the teasing or the bullying. and for him, the best way for him is just to walk away from the situation.
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so i applaud him for that and being the bigger man. >> dave, there is without a doubt here an economic imperative, as you point out, but, omar, i'm wondering given that and given the reality of what the public relations is of all of this, what do you think the likelihood is that there's a widespread change? >> oh, definitely there's going to be a widespread change. i think you're going to see what -- you're going to see language about what is acceptable and what can be used in terms of rookie hazing and initiations and words that can be used in the locker room. i can tell you i've been in the dolphins locker room since 2007. i have never heard the "n" word. so to hear that, yeah, i'm only there for probably 45 minutes in a day, but to hear that richie incognito had used that word amongst his peers and some of them african-americans, you know, i find that appalling, a little bit disturbing. but then again i can't sit here and say that that's a common occurrence, that it's happening in every locker room. but certainly there's going to be widespread leaguewide
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conversations about what can we do in a locker room. yes, this is a locker room, yes, this is your sanctuary, but there are certain things that are not acceptable in society today and these are the things that we shouldn't be doing inside our facility. >> and we looked at the bigger problem, dave, and you brought it up, for example, concussions. we saw a couple of high-profile players talking in just the last week, nfl players announcing that they have various problems relating to taking such hard hits. how worried is the nfl about the image and about those kids coming up and the moms who are deciding whether or not not just they should play football but whether or not they want to pony up what's pretty big bucks to take a family to a game these days? >> exactly. it's also pretty big bucks if you want to put your kid inside that pipeline to get them to the national football league. i'll tell you something, this season from concussions to controversy over the washington team name and now this issue, it's been the nfl careening from one public relations crisis to the next. i have to say one thing real
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quick about the whole "n" word in the locker room. i've been interviewing players all week. and they have said that to a person i have never heard a white person in the locker room casually dropping n-bombs and have other players acting like that's somehow okay and acceptable. and that's important because i'm tired of this commentary that's trying to throw all this on the shoulders of this young generation of african-american men and saying why are they putting up with this? don't they realize the sacrifices of the civil rights movement? actually in all these other locker rooms, it's not put up with so we should not assume that somehow the word is becoming a safe thing for white people to say in a friendly kind of environment. that's a load of you know what. >> dave zirin, omar kelly, what a great conversation. guys, great to see you. thank you. the huge aircraft carrier, the uss george washington, is on its way to the philippines bringing 5,000 sailors and more than 80 aircraft to bolster american military already on the ground, helping the victims of typhoon haiyan.
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entire towns were wiped out. right now about 660,000 people are estimated to still be displaced without access to food, water or medicine. the philippine is in the grips of a health crisis. nbc news ian williams joins us now from manila. ian, what can you tell us about the relief efforts right now? >> reporter: well, chris, there is an enormous disconnect between all these promises, these pledges we've seen and the delivery, these increasingly desperate pleas for help from these devastated communities who say they have been getting nothing, not even the most basics, water, food, medical aid, shelter. now, aid agencies i've spoken to today say they are still facing enormous logistical problems. while there are flights going in, for instance, once the aid gets there, the problem is getting it into town because there is no transport, no cars, which means they're having to hand carry it. likewise they have enormous
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problems finding places to store it in a situation where law and order is dicey at best. now, the presidential palace here has been on the defensive today, saying -- pledging that they are going to get aid to everybody that needs it, insisting that airports are being reopened. ports are being reopened and that roads are being cleared. they point out that 22 countries have pledged to help. the u.s. of course right at the front of that effort sending the uss washington which should arrive here on thursday. but right at this moment the aid, the promises simply isn't getting where it's needed, chris. >> and the clock is ticking definitely. time running out. nbc news ian williams, thank you. and we'll be right back. time for the "your business" entrepreneurs of the week. rob navarino and brook redpath own stores on main street in great barrington, massachusetts. they and other small business owners in town are attracting customers for small business
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senate till politico they are not expecting break-throughs, no immigration bill, no budget bill. as it stands right now, the house will only be in session seven days this month. just eight days next month. speaker boehner reportedly even joked that the house shouldn't even stay in session in december. could this do-nothing congress have an impact on next year's midterms? i want to bring in matt bennett, senior vice president and co-founder of third way. rick tyler is a republican strategist and former newt gingrich spokesman. good morning, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so poll after poll shows frankly congressional aproouchl is in the toilet, single digits. only 47 bills have been signed into law this year. second year in a row that it's the least productive congress. matt, how do lawmakers go home and explain that to their constituents? >> boy, it is really tough. i wouldn't want to be one of them having to do that. there really is no way to explain this to constituents. the fact they're only going to work 15 days between now and the end of the year when we have
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these enormous problems in front of us. we have another looming budget crisis coming on january 15th and they're not able to get anything done. so it's really tough. i will say it does seem that the senate, weirdly, has been more productive than the house, which is not how it normally goes. they have actually passed a few things, like an immigration bill and a farm bill. but neither side has covered itself in glory here. >> rick, the indications are that the republicans plan to use the bulk of their remaining days stepping up oversight of the health care law. for a lot of them maybe it's already preaching to the choir, but what do you make of them having to go back into their districts and explaining why basically this has been the least productive congress in history? >> well, look, first of all, i don't think government is -- most voters want government central in their lives. they don't want government intruding in their lives. they don't want government to be the central note of collecting their health care information. >> don't we want the government to do something? we do pay them. >> they want the government to
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work and to function but they basically wanting it to get out of their lives and not affect them. they don't want government to be the cause for millions of people losing their health insurance. they don't want government to be the cause of skyrocketing premiums. >> well, for example, the latest polls, rick, talking about this earlier show that the majority of americans want the minimum wage raised and that includes a majority of self-identified republicans. that's not going to happen. >> the problem you have now is the president has show diminished his credit with his promise that if you like your plan, you can keep it, period, which he really meant after the rick, and now military families are finding out that they can't keep their children on their plan until 26 because they get thrown off at 21. that was never disclosed. when you have a problem like that, legislation gets past because a parade forms. it is usually formed by the bully pulpit. this president has been fairly effective making a case for his agenda and now he has no credibility. so when he talks about immigration, he has no -- >> that is ridiculous. >> it's not ridiculous.
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that's the way it works and you know it, matt. >> no, i don't know it. the president has been a leader on things like immigration. he has been calling for immigration reform ever since he took office six years ago. >> but now he has no credibility. that was my point. it wasn't the point -- >> let's -- let's let matt answer. >> yeah. a bipartisan group in the senate passed an immigration bill. the president said, look, i don't think it's perfect but nothing is going to be perfect and it's much, much better than the current state of affairs. and the house should pass it. boehner has basically said no, we're not going to raise anything. we're not even going to do a piecemeal approach to immigrati immigration. this is a wound in the face of the public and nobody is doing anything about it in the house. laying this at the feet of the president is ridiculous. john boehner has basically abdicated all responsibility to govern and that is what people are reacting to. >> rick, are you going to argue that john boehner has control of his caucus? >> i would say that john boehner
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was elected speaker of the house. that means he won a majority in the last election. he won a majority in 2010 as well, as you remember. and the reason he won a majority is because people who voted for health -- for the health care reform got thrown out of office. that's how john boehner got to be the speaker. we have a majority and john boehner is doing his job because the people who elected the majority in the house said we don't want obama care, we don't want intrusive government into our lives, particularly in our health care and so john boehner has held the line. and by the way, they compromised about delaying obama care and look what happened? it ended up in a government shutdown and now you have democrats who are split. democrats who don't want, by the way, obama campaigning in their district. we saw that in louisiana with mary landrieu, so here we are. >> matt, we did end up with a government shutdown, the question is why? >> well, it's very clear why, because republicans refused to pass a budget and played chicken with the full faith and credit of the united states. >> the house did pass a budget.
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the senate didn't take it up. >> no, that's ridiculous. >> no, it's not ridiculous. the house passed a budget. it didn't include obama care. they didn't take it up. >> that's a pretty big asterisk that didn't include obama care. what you're trying to say is it defunded a law that passed three years ago. this has been a debate that is already over. even republicans in congress are saying they're not going to fight this battle again because they lost so badly. >> matt bennett, rick tyler, thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you, chris. >> great conversation. coming up, a woman shares her childhood secrets as she launches a one-woman campaign to protect children against sexual assault and she is changing laws one state at a time. we'll have her story coming up. what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it,
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year. what, 6:00 p.m.? >> yep. is nothing sacred anymore? >> no. not where there's cash involved. >> walmart will not be outdone. so many retailers are opening on thanksgiving. target, best buy, k-mart and many, many others. it was just a matter of time before walmart jumped on this bandwagon but according to data from comscore online spending on thanksgiving day increased from 2011 to 2012 which makes me feel a little better about it. it's thanksgiving and if you have to go out to the mall and take that time away from your family, that's one thing. if it's online maybe not so bad. apparently over the past five years online shopping on thanksgiving has increased 132%. so thanksgiving has become a huge day for those retailers to rake in the bucks for online shopping. keep in mind total online spending for thanksgiving day, $633 million last year is still small compared with the more than $1 billion that was spent
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on black friday online. so black friday is still the winner here. >> still the big one. >> yes. >> new survey finds for turkey day more dads are getting into the act. >> yeah, they're helping prepare the thanksgiving feast, not just eating it. according to the butterball survey, a quarter of men say they assist more in the kitchen now than they did a few years ago and also nearly half of them play a significant role in either preparing or cooking the turkey and 84% of them are involved in some aspect of preparing the meal. >> now, i don't want to be a naysayer but if we ask the other half of the equation, would the numbers be the same? and what is their definition of helping? >> well, helping could be like, here, dear, here's the cranberry sauce. >> i'll open the can. >> but i want to let you know this is an amazing leap forward. apparently butterball is adding male staffers to their annual turkey talk line to provide all those questions about what do i do about basting, when do i do this, when do i do that and
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erin morin is pushing for legislation for schools to teach children about sexual victimization. >> from 6, 7 and 8 i was sexually abused and raped at the hands of a neighbor up the street from me. my best friend's uncle who lived in the home. did i go home and tell? no, i didn't. i kept it a secret, threatened that he would come get me. he knew where i lived. >> erin has written a book about her experience called "an unimaginable act, overcoming and preventing child abuse through erin's law" and she's here live. great to have you here. i found your book really inspiring and also depressing frankly. you were sexually abused by two men. in the aftermath you were labeled an emotionally disturbed child, you were anorexic in
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college and you didn't tell anyone until you were out of graduate school, right? >> correct. >> what is the psychology of a child when something so horrific happens to them and they don't have the resources to, frankly, stand up to threats from their abusers. >> and that's a sad reality. kids are so traumatized they don't know how to speak up and tell somebody this is going on. in our world we live in, children get one message only when they're being victimized and it's from the perpetrator. this is our secret, no one will believe you, so kids stay silent, blame themselves, carry this guilt that this is their fault. >> didn't your friend come after you one time and say don't say anything because if you do, my uncle says they'll take my mother's house away? >> yes. that was his way of threatening. and that's how they are. they will threaten kids any way possible to silence them. we live in a society, what do all parents talk to their kids about? stranger danger. 93% of the time kids are not being hurt by stranger danger.
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you need to talk to your kids about safe touch, unsafe touch. >> 93% of kids who are abused are abused by people they know. >> yes, it's sad. >> authorities did try to track down your rapist in 2007 after you came forward with your story and you wrote in this book, which was just unbelievable to me, he wasn't denying it. he just wasn't talking. eventually pleading the fifth, the detectives' hands were tied and there was no more they could do without physical evidence. while i may never see him behind bars in this life, i am glad that am 16 years of staying silent, he knew i was the one who turned him in and i was no longer afraid. you're more than not afraid, you are on a mission. tell people about erin's law and what it would do. >> erin's law requires age appropriate curriculum. preschool to 12th grade, teaching kids on safe touch, unsafe touch. safe seek krets, unsafe seek kre -- secrets. >> i thought that was part of a
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curriculum and i'm guessing a lot of people thought that. >> yes. >> so where are we in terms of this law. eight states have passed erin's law, including your home state of illinois. it has been introduced and is pending in 18 more states, including new york here. tell me about the reaction and the pushback that you've gotten as you've traveled. >> i have gotten positive and unpositive reaction to this. some say this is needed. others say how are schools going to afford this. there are ways around this where it will cost schools nothing. you have school social workers and psychologists that teach kids bully intervention. the programs are there. we just need to allow the time to get people to realize we need to teach kids how to speak up and be safe. with 18 states now introducing it and 8 that have passed this, we have more than half the country on board. i hope this morning the president is listening because he could speed up this mission a lot faster. >> what would you like to see done. could something be done on a national level and what are the chances that would happen? you were talking about the
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pushback you got here in new york. >> yeah, unfortunately in new york we have a representative here who is against school mandates in the education committee. and the bill has died twice here in new york. and what people don't realize is i don't take no for an answer. this law will get passed here in new york as it will in every other state because this mission will eventually be passed across -- >> this is a woman lawmaker who is saying we shouldn't teach this because we shouldn't be mandating what is taught in schools any more than we already are. >> yes. and yet we mandate here in new york tornado drills, bus drills, fire drills. bully intervention. so you teach the kid who's being bullied on the school bus, so speak up and tell your teacher. but the kid that's being raped by her step dad, let's not give her a voice. let's wait until she's 30 and in drug rehab and suffered years of abuse to finally speak up and tell. >> the book is very blunt and also moving and inspirational. it's called "an unimaginable act." erin, great to have you in.
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you were one of "glamour" magazine's women of the year 2012. you were just there. >> last night. >> they had another ceremony at carnegie hall. big applause for malala. >> i was so excited to see because that 16-year-old is incredible. >> she is amazing. other winners, barbra streisand, lady gaga. "glamour" magazine tweet it out a tweet. every woman deserves to be on the cover but if i could forfeit my "glamour" cover, it would be for malala. erin, good to have you in. >> thank you for having me. not that we like tooting our own horn but... ♪ toot toot. [ male announcer ] find gevalia in the coffee aisle or at [ chainsaw whirring ] humans -- sometimes life trips us up.
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to politics now where scantily clad models in drinking games are part of a new anti-obama care campaign.
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through a tailgate party they passed out material urging young people to opt out of the obama care act. mitt romney jumping into a new campaign to bring the summer election 2024 to boston. romney, of course, ran the 2002 winter games in salt lake city and according to the "boston globe" is a key adviser in boston's bid to host. and toronto's mayor defiant in the face of his critics telling supporters he's, quote, not going anywhere guaranteed. after admitting he smoked crack cocaine a year ago, he presses on a city council motion that would force him out of office. when questioned about it, ford said "let's get it on." a vote could come tomorrow. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning, chris. good morning, everybody. the ajendsa next hour, the latest update from southeast asia. the suspected death toll in the thousands after typhoon haiyan and this as the u.s. navy is rushing supplies and help for
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those survivors that are left to scramble for food and shelter. all this while another storm is on the way. meanwhile, new details reveal just how anemic the numbers are for people who signed up through the federal website for obama care. debbie wasserman schultz say the democrats will be able to run on obama care as an advantage. we'll ask her to explain what she means by those comments. she'll join me live in studio. and a texas group of moms who want gun reform gets a real shock when a gun rights group shows up in the mall parking lot packing heat in public to intimidate them. will authorities be bringing charges? that and much more coming up. charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart.
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