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ok it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to republican congresswoman ileana roth lexan at the florida congress i was introducing john bolton that hearing yesterday before the house foreign affairs committee i'm told was there to testify about u.s. policy regarding iran and syria so during her introduction for the former u.n. ambassador and we got a rough like that and it reportedly said i love john bolton now those who are there are seven she said it as an aside after her opening remarks really only ana you love john bolton you have a crazy warmonger i mean come on. this is a man who has made a living going on fox news advocating for the u.s. to bomb iran and to bomb them right now he's been for years and years making claims that iran has nuclear weapons i think u.s. or israel should launch their missiles that iran and mediately and he's made those
claims on t.v. if we only have days left to attack iran and keep them from getting nuclear weapons or else there are two outcomes one is iran gets nuclear weapons the other is israel or somebody uses military force to stop it that's where we are going to see here where the others are going to use military force against aspects of your weapons program that uranium once those fuel rods are very close to the reactor certainly once they're in the reactors you say attacking it means a release of radiation no question about it so if israel's got to do anything against the spirit has to move in the next eight days if they don't sell congress and that's the man you confess your love for during a house committee meeting i mean come on even most republicans think the boldness and crazy hours you really supposed to pretend to have an air of objectivity when someone's testifying before you but understand early on his love for john bolton i think you have to quickly realize he's a crazy neo con herself as we've noted several times on this show. i welcome the
opportunity of having anyone assassinate fidel castro and any leader who was oppressing oppressing the people and. yeah that was the congresswoman actually advocating for the assassination of a world leader she also calls for the u.s. to withdraw much of its support from the u.n. she's heavily criticized the president on his calls for israel to adhere to the pre nine hundred sixty seven agreed upon borders and she's probably one of the main reasons that you want i can't travel to cuba so i guess that we shouldn't be all that surprised us let them in with love john bolton they're both right wing nuts so for the elected representative florida congresswoman ileana life in his shameless love for people they just want to bomb all day and bomb all night she's nice full time where. now this week a former self appointed spokesman for anonymous fairground revealed another massive spying program by the us he wrote that for at least two years the us has been
conducting secretive and immensely sophisticated campaigns of mass surveillance and data mining against the arab world allowing the intelligence community to monitor the habits conversations and activity of millions of individuals that want this information comes from the seventy thousand e-mails that were hacked from that intelligence firm h.b. gary if you are the original controversy surrounding h.p. gary was a firm work with two others. here which collectively made them team it was then discover that they were hired by corporations including bank of america to strike at wiki leaks a journalist glenn greenwald and other activist groups but also found also found within those e-mails was this current surveillance project and titled romance coined as a project that was set to be replaced sometime this year under the new name of odyssey and here companies like google apple and possibly a santy were also found to be involved so we say about this operation and what are the chances that it's being used against americans to join me to discuss this is
lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced defense sadies and he's also still serving as a return reserve lieutenant colonel tony thank you so much for joining us tonight. everyone so far from looking at these documents or looking at the e-mails what can you really gather from that what do what does a mass surveillance data mining really mean in this case well i think the public is naive to the actual level of technology which is available and what i mean i didn't recall able danger. anybody project. really what we. would take a year you can do that in a minute matter of seconds and the other stuff that i did during a set period i read a special mission you know it was cutting edge. the operations i ran at the time i felt were very highly controlled technology being applied properly that is the problem of our society today technology has moved along so fast and as you've seen
through the h.p. gregg issue there's tons of things going on here that i don't think anybody actually has a handle on and this is why even now today i call for a very strong correctional oversight hope everything is being done because i think frankly the american people have no clue that congress has no clue and this is the tip of the iceberg of us really going on. well i think i feel like we have to assume that it's the tip of the iceberg just because this is only the second batch of information is coming out of the seventy thousand e-mails when it comes to only the specific firm really gary but you know the facts here that google is involved that apple is involved or possibly eighteen t. these private corporations i don't like they weren't c.e.o. and these are american companies so do you think that you know what these e-mails are saying is that this is a data mining and surveillance operation of the arab world but looking at the corporations that are involved does that make you think that's going on here
against us as well but let me answer that two pieces first i would ask your viewers to think for themselves think about what is possible and then think about what is probable so if it exists you know if someone can do it it's probably being done the question becomes why and who benefits and one of my good friends during those already are sure you always talk about following the money so you know corporate america there's tons of data money being used to actually help companies better project what products to do you know us or things for the government yet look at what what benefits this and i think one of the most frightening things we have to consider is how technology can develop to do to do for intelligence and i'm not going to tell you we didn't do things against foreign targets we always have but that's the idea we should be doing against foreign targets the problem is that technology is ambivalent it doesn't care who is going after it or go after whoever it is directed to do and there's no inherent safety and well in developing or
feeling the technology so i think if this point is that i would hope someone decides you and me are calling for folks to investigate what this really means because alex here i saw the pelletier you know it's like well some third level guy got out of control no that's this that's nonsense that's that's a slogan don't use creation my guys tell me that pelletier was fully on board and they were at the forefront of this and they knew so clearly there's deception here and we've got to get to the bottom of what's really going on when we're not. now. of course the reason that we even saw these e-mails was because anonymous originally went after h.b. gary now we have lost security and anonymous. yesterday they went for their first victim which actually ended up being in arizona the police department there what do you think of those types of attacks you know they also went after e-mails and try to disclose information put it out there leak it to people do you think about where
they should be targeting are those smart targets or should they be going for i don't know frying some bigger fish up there but i think it's all the above i think that these guys are out there's no term call privateers back and the days of the pirates where you had guys are going out and doing things on the open sea sometimes for the government sometimes not i think that's what we're seeing here when i was doing my operations in late ninety s i had extraordinarily gifted when you were called a hackers and we had to hold him back because they could do a lot more than what we were going to do these other folks have no controls on they'll do whatever they think and their limitation is only what they believe should be their moral compass and frankly at this point i don't think it's a bad thing because because our own government our own system is not able to keep up with maintaining some level of oversight on our own activities these folks in some ways are kind of a robin hood which i mean a bad thing and third frankly it's me great kind of brought it on themselves it
almost prompted me i asked them to do something so when you look at it from their perspective it's kind of like they have this common and i know it sounds kind of bitter and i probably get some flak for that but i think it's true and autumn is you know who are they are going to do and i don't you know i don't see them trying to actually destroy the american public or destroy the things for which i think are valuable i think they could do a lot more damage than what they're doing and i don't the good and yet hopefully they won't alter anything i think they're probably trying to wake up the american public when they put out some of this information especially what are the specific e-mails that you. talking about when you find out that our taxpayer dollars are being used to hire these for you know which then work with the large corporations to bend people and do this massive surveillance and data mining and i should be frustrating for all americans but i guess if these stories don't get brought up enough at least in the media you know the other day we reported of a massive f.b.i. raid in virginia and said for some reason nobody else has talked about that story tony i want to thank you very much for joining us and i feel like we're probably
going to be seeing more and more of these cases thank you thank you carol. our fireside fridays coming out and then it's the end of the week so we raise our glasses for happy hour cable news channel actually asked psychics to predict the future of the economy but the media was crazy when bieber got knocked down on the. internet only when there were three mechanisms to do the work up to bring justice for accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes see a story and it seems so full of sleep you think you understand it and then
a glimpse something else here's some of the part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard welcomes the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. either one well. or never government says they are keeping safe get ready because their freedom.
for. to tonight's. your moods. and politics it all comes down to the message what message reasoning to the voters what message are we sending to the rest of the world and these questions in turn usually curried some really big political rhetoric that's neither here nor there so that you can get away with saying something without actually sending any kind of message
whatsoever just think in the particular case of the war in libya kinetic military action that was a term that the obama administration tried to use to describe this non-hospital not a war before much of the uproar over its legality began whereas they started out by using that vague flowery rhetoric that just made no sense all in an attempt of cool congress and the american people who may clearly think are idiots now with a plan to get us to support the war is still isn't working well it's like they're just going full throttle they're using age old techniques of you're either with us or you're against us let me explain here as we've been reporting to you on this show some of those of congress are thankfully questioning president obama and his administration's actions questioning how it is that they think they can just spit on the constitution and start a war without asking congress questioning why they want even acknowledge that it was wrong and just suck it up and ask congress now if this whole thing is blown up rather than overruling justice department lawyers and coming up with a completely non explainable legal explanation also questioning what the hell libya
has to do with us anyway when we're broke. our armed forces are stretched thin and we're tired of endless wars those questions are rightly being raised by you but you know how those who are raising them are being treated as bloodthirsty dictator sympathizers secretary of state hillary clinton actually said the following yesterday about members of congress that are questioning the war in libya he said of the bottom line is whose side are you on are you on could obvious side or are you on the side of the aspirations of the libyan people and the international coalition that's been created for support that. does anybody else feel like they just stepped into a time machine that took them back to the bush administration but basically told you that if you are opposed to the war in iraq clearly you're on the side of saddam hussein is that what it's really come down to when your excuses for this war become so pathetic in your support is dying out but you have to start painting the world as black and white and fear mongering guess what ms clinton according to the latest
gallup poll forty six percent of americans now say that they disapprove of the u.s. military action in libya so what he's saying is i mean the forty six percent of americans think they get off he's a great guy that they hate democracy like kind of logic those types of threats coming from the obama administration that's disappointing their offensive or just sad and lay it on all accounts and i expected better and as for congress the house of representatives voted down a resolution to defund libya today but they also voted down a resolution to support it so they're back on that typical let's not send any message so everyone's confused and i'm not really sure which i can decide is worse you know message or bad message but apparently that's what war fighting has come down to these days. this week young children all across japan well not because of the earthquake or the nuclear disaster or because they found out the japanese pop sensation i need the newest member of the
japanese idol group a k. the forty eight was not a real person. yes that's right there's a beautiful and talented artist was created by a computer by combining the best features of eight other parts stars watch the shock of disappointment heard during fans but you know this hoax perpetrated. the japanese people just kind of got me thinking just how far computer technology is only a matter of time until we the american be able find out that some of our most brilliant political minds are computer generated as well just just think about it you only see these people on t.v. and in fact the executives at fox and m s n b c are probably already working on the concept as we speak can you just picture it now roger ailes in
a bunker under fox studios with a computer engineer working to take the best speakers of his most per day it's a great one supreme pundit to rule them all all you need is a little dash of megan kelly a touch of michelle malkin and of course what would a perfect time to be without a part of and i would imagine she'd be wearing leather boots just after spew some anti obama venom rail against socialist immigrants just about everyone else and there you go it actually makes so much sense thoughts can just remove the middleman and roger ailes can just speak directly to the people and you know where fox goes and us n.b.c. must follow the law probably have something up their sleeves enough to take the whitney humor of jake and rachel will mix it with the over the top earnestness of lawrence the anger of dylan annette the elitism of joe and voila you've got the best g.e. spokes person all i ever know of course is that we hear it r t you don't want to be left out of this dystopian fun we've also created our own perfect. her name has
a lot of. hope you enjoy. ok time for happy hour on this friday and joining me tonight is archie producer jenny turtill and evan morris centaur a reporter and blogger for talking points not up thanks for joining guys happy friday. you know we've we've spoken a few end of the world series on the show before specially when everyone thought the rapture was coming but the theories never die down especially because we haven't gotten to two thousand and twelve yet and so now here's a new one that apparently was going crazy over on line take a look. at a look at their distance one point eight one choose kelly's right now getting near to us by three hundred thousand miles per day and about a week at number seventy four hundred thousand miles per day and it's going to
continue to increase you're going to see more and more will cain is going off but you're signed away people look you have thirty three ok knows erupting right now in the earth and that number is going to continue to go up so we move along the timeline. that says woody harrelson from the over the new movie premier the guy sitting in the bunker would like twenty twelve years it was one of those end of the world movies sure well this is so there's the comedy ellen in which is apparently like three hundred million three hundred miles away excuse me and i think it's three hundred i think it's like three million miles away three million i'm looking william it really is simply it's not three hundred miles away that would be able to but it's somewhere out there by late august for as opposed to be able to see it as like a fuzzy star in the sky that has a little tail where you think the government hiding it from us. obviously if you knew someone thought would you tell everyone you know you have a bunker for yourself and keep it for yourself look at it what do you think it would actually work i mean for of confused by the obsession with the end of the
world i mean it's going to happen it's not just going to happen or it is going to be i will have side that hold you know human. the deep impact of so here on a few other sites around the world in august when the debt ceiling doesn't get raised. r.t.r. i don't know i kind of like all these asteroid comet stories you guys know so i just but he later went on in this clip to explain how apparently nasa the people that work there have been warning their family and their friends but it's been like on secret message boards and i think it's not going to actually watched deep impact if you many times i'm not kidding it's like he's following the plot and this is a pretty good movie let's move on to something else justin bieber justin bieber but apparently justin bieber gets knocked down every really cares huge news take a look at libor fever hits manhattan and things just get out of control with the believed hitting the ground so he went down. this is a picture taken by a woman in the crowd and other justified man broke metal barricades and toppled
over he was knocked to the ground witnesses were stuck. he was done i mean what's worse that we actually care that somebody tackled justin bieber to the ground or that justin bieber is the person that people want to tackle what i mean but the bigger news to me is that ok so we got a lot of news about bieber but nothing about this comic i mean i said you see the standard i mean it's really all about to end there justin bieber is on the ground you have to make sure that maybe justin bieber got knocked over because of the comment i think you know the comments clearly affecting her you know what was really disturbing was there was another news story that we didn't cover where she was like i'm back where it all happened watching are you ok are you kidding me you sound quarterback all happen because of that good reporting go to the good news and go right on a conversation we were having this morning for a really justin bieber is the one that everyone's going crazy over i mean he's so cute he's not here and he's good at basketball here because he i don't know i don't
know if you. i think he played him like a celebrity all star thing with here actually ok c.n.n. doing their hard hitting reporting as always instead of getting an economist on to talk about the future of the global economy look at a look or take a look if you take what he has one of the best chart astrological signs of fed chairman ben bernanke she sees hope for the global markets even as key fed economic stimulus or using chorus he's used to tell the fortunes of stories like princess grace and john lennon andrews also sees hope for the u.s. economy actually promising profitable changes so. terrible. terrible card the crystal ball what do you think that better than having a real economists come on and everybody has their own theory these days nobody can agree on what's actually going to happen. i think it's better. because i got
way more enjoyment out of watching that woman talk about bringing his charts and his crystal ball nobody knows so what difference does it make really. would you go to taro card reader rubio but i would have thought the future of the economy and whether or not on august second the world is going to end because what i'm saying i mean i think i'd ask about the comment i think first i think you really need to stick with your column it is going to come and destroy you know what comments three would would you know touchy so i mean you know but i do think that you know it doesn't seem like there's anybody else has any idea what's going on with the economy so why not ask these people who seem to have some lunatics i remember you once were a psychic and you were predicting like things that were going to happen in the e.u. on the show oh you know i think we did a skit about those a while ago i was made i mean this alone were you right on the corners when i was there. for anybody out there though who thought that i really was like i totally was predicting the future about one. i don't know c.n.n.
has gotten really maybe they're getting really creative lately or maybe they're right. stories because we were making fun of the pilot as you heard the pilot days grannies and oh yeah i heard yeah that's right he actually did a full report investigating into what a grand day was even like a little clip from our happy hour don't go to houston right got to be learned from that apparently he was that is the ugliest bass you know you know there is yeah great let's move on to our last in our final story these days every celebrity has a heart of gold and they like to get involved in really important political matters around the world george clooney who has done a lot for war is now on the council of foreign relations and he's been given a lifetime membership because they want more nontraditional voices you think it. will be on there with. brangelina angeleno that angelina jolie going to let you go in there and you want not sure you want to she only got a temporary member show you doesn't know which i believe is over so she didn't get
the lifetime of your she just for junior achievement gives a slap in the face i feel like she has always done more than george clooney you know as a doctor shouldered mauler no i think you got to do i know it was really weird that he was nominated like you know me by charlie rose and nicholas kristoff you know it's also he's obviously got friends in high places and i don't want to live in a world where angelina and george clooney are not you know influencing foreign policy and making decisions for me i just don't i can't live in a world like george clooney ran for president you vote for him i'm not sure you think about the comment i campaigned for him. from kentucky he's good looking good . thanks for joining you guys and have a good weekend at the night's show thanks for tuning in and make sure you can back on monday baker from the center for economic and policy research will be on the show to discuss obama's meeting with senate leaders on deficit reduction for the meantime to forget become a fan of the large show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of the nights for any other nights you can always catch. flashed
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