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among the close of the maiden speech of the leader of the leader reticent shift he was punished but they protest pundits. call them back you're watching r t live from moscow now here's a recap of the main stories we're covering today water and food shortages bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis as the opposition again says it will not negotiate with the fugitive colonel gadhafi. more violence is reported in syria and that government attempts to implement reforms well that's all a solution to the country's longstanding crisis becomes a mouthful of discord between russia and its western partners. after the e.u. holds a special meeting of the blocks talk level for national officials to resolve
growing differences on how to halt the death contagion sweeping the quad. and back to libya in the wake of the rebel success in gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato as role in it but has asked the british and the who oppose intervention in libya about the role the western powers should play in shaping the country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very serious against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to you r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and it looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i queried in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was right to
intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the assume the issue was all this whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel course and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not the should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to interview how do you wish it could have been different than what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think we should have seen the news we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the air on the strike forward for the rebels david cameron said
a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong one of the things that troubled me all was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k.
we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also no talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i see that's something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structures or maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there effectively to establish a new regime that's that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection let me be clear i am very pleased to see the back of gadhafi who is a very evil dictator and the sooner he is in front of the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at and then.
i wish for the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime and they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong unified government that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this so different so it's very different to the invasion of iraq because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as front was obliged to under chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of holds the nuclear chemical and. biological weapons that he knew he had previously bought from he refused to do. even as late as every hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has
these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas a different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he. willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the order trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army but was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given given him a final opportunity to comply with its obligations but how the world beyond that point would have happened if he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was
a terrible situation and it was right that we can the action that we did now the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that the fortune forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after what about what happens afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was
a complete failure of the occupying powers and then to stabilize the situation they let the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this is insanity absolutely insanity. we must not be in a position you've done is creating greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has a very bitter experience of a gander stand as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone not to pine forest is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that they taste epping it has made the situation worse is it not their nature is responsibility to stay and clear up the
matter and you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation we must not assume responsibility ourselves governments in fifth that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq but given the way that this conflict conducted its do you believe that it's always a danger for every government if you and every army to be
fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those actions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think. nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or anybody else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country.
all across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different because views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of them. article of the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately nature is it eventually will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that after all already unstable or no i think the most serious i think it will it if it's nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen and i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not
something. that is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the truck or see very god thank you very much. nearly a billion people in the world for going on. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked in even get all over the other ones just threw them all away she's from the german oh you know we really like the upper class. from
the be. the be. the luck. i got out of the military in the ninety's sixty six i got over because the sings a song other things i was doing and this is the reason sept we were given for doing a job as a personal protest. during the vietnam war in iraq she war movement emerged that altered the course of history this movement jim takes place on college campuses but in the barracks and on ships the penetrated elite military colleges like west point and it spread throughout the battlefields is not good today few people know about the g.i. movement against the war in vietnam. ask the army we always said free the army or fun travel and adventure but it really meant the current.
stories on our t.v. water and food shortages bring libya to the brink of a humanitarian crisis as the opposition to get says it will not negotiate with the fugitive colonel gadhafi. more violence is reported in syria as government attempts to implement reforms that swallow a solution to the country's last tatic crisis becomes an eye. apple of discord between russia and its western partners. and the e.u. holds a special meeting of the glocks top level of national officials to resolve a growing differences on how to halt the death contagion it sleeping at the club. and now it's time for all the latest in sports with natasha.
you know watching this board live on r t r headlines spoils shared moscow's most fiery food builds are the ends up all square between spartak and says sky here in the capital. final cuts russians basketball scored for the fast approaching european championships in lithuania is announced. and also raise it last almost beyond wins american five man playoff to claim the jenny welcome championship at gleneagles. let's kick off with the ball was on they saw a crack of a moscow dobbin the russian premier league spartak hosting the leading says scar at the luzhniki arena and spike went into the glass following a disappointing exit from the euro cups last week but it was the right and wise to seize the initiative right before the break well it's on heading home meet the cross shot. however says god got right back into it after the break not the
greatest of defending from host spartak alone save to do and be able to take full advantage and one would become to sixty nine minutes into the match. against product looking less than inspirational at the back door should share the mound this time finding the net for two one. but the following strike the goal of the whole weekend probably would guarantee spartak a point and then i'll emanate he lets in the right foot seawall with the beautiful outfit and that's the way it will stay between the city rivals. and that school i'm aiming says to have company at the summit for the first time in months so you need joining the army and also following a five mils rushing over of secrecy an example kids are poor helping themselves to brace for the health all about in st petersburg after good work from. the final eleven minutes will then turn into a girl first it all. waving his hat trick from the penalty spot before
a brilliant volley from but i'm not sure of made it for me oh five minutes from time. and the icing on the cake coming could see a done he adds and life will keep making its when number three on the trot doesn't meet. elsewhere on the day third sigurd's not likely but brush up on the leads into you off to seeing all spark knology to neil fellow most of us look and see also want to. be leapfrogged some well as all zones seem to fourth place with a one there with at helm's of clearly a side with a. now smiles all across man style to both the red and blue hearts of the city ranks of cricket scores on sunday in the english premier league result of the day and out of luke hearing at old trafford where manchester united handed arsenal their heavy as defeats in eighty four years don't adjust your screen that score is quite right eight to howard rounded up big and had trick in the absolute demolition job and they're called meanwhile health and self the four girls as man see to round
out five when i was five one when as a way to pointless spurs united and city both top of the table with maximum points after three games wins also on the day four still and you cancel. the spanish but another league season meanwhile has kicked off this weekend champions barcelona in action later today against billie area and they are already playing catch up second favorites for the spanish title real madrid heading saragossa for six on sunday goal number one was simplicity itself most of all silting upgrade the knowledge of opens the scoring twenty four minutes into the match marcello would find the net minutes later with number three a riding after the hour mark hardly alone so the mound foundering home from outside the area. and by the time ronaldo had nets of his second and reels full of it was much too easy for the visitors. this time taking full advantage of the space in
front of these are of course a girl five new to his strike and have trick we duly arrived for a knowledge of the easiest of tap means for the most expensive in the world sixty all the files korea all search for a first league crown in four years off their flyer. and third it's now and the winner of monday's one hundred and sound metres hurdles has been denied his world championship gold they are in robles disqualified following the protest from new son who came third the chinese athletes as the world record holder or bulls slowed them down by pulling him in the final metres the episode was reviewed by field judges leading to the window being disqualified it means the initial runner up american jason richardson now takes the gold sun grabs this so well and great britain is awarded the bronze medal. david blood's has named his fine russian school for the twenty eleven european basketball championships before they headed off for wednesday still in the men's stars in the thing any air and the stars to my
famous golf and country are expected to and because it seemed but they'll have some new teammates and you know a good small forward signal going up has been given an inaugural call up while you get you've gotten up a surprisingly helps and it says that shooting got left out by blood the spine having a solid outing at the world class last year the country's best warming up here against amateurs and using their spots tougher to petition the weights in the form of ukraine on august thirty first. meanwhile to russia's best hockey players or so to face off against each other for a noble cause alexander ovechkin and they each pick their teams for a charity match the game being hosted for this second straight here and proceeds will go to disabled children in the moscow region town of said you a presidential aide i could see about of course which is to mental in bringing this initiative to life and he'll be lacing up his speeches well if you knew mark in bible that super models of his goal of just four days on the all star least it's
a thirty five players estimated put semen the school will be looking to get one back from a year ago. alex and i believe in doing good deeds because we have a lot of children in this country who need our help and choose machel future two periods of thirty minutes and their crews will get to see numerous stars from outside the hockey world as well it appears that we want to hold the kids because i think it's under great full to be in a position to help others and not give back as far as the message we want to win like last year we should be able to find a way to take victory as we have morozov downey's a report of another suit for us. switching to golf where it's almost beyond hell there's no disappear the johnnie walker championship title and then a stretch on fending off the competition in a five hole playoff for his twelfth. tree here on finishing the day all three under
sixty nine tied with not for surgery. there are several five extra holes in caps winning away as he wants the. ball drop out of contention on the first and second respectively forced to exit next on hill now before with your own closing it out after i could see missed a good chance i thought here all there securing his second wing of the season he also finished fourth at the british open this year. the mode to be gay still know was finally able to conquer the brickyard circuit out the indianapolis grand prix the australian racing to his seventh win of the season after failing to make his two previous the towns in indy still there on pearl for the race serve but it was the only big draws of a god after one of his trademark fans stance stealing the early lead stoner stayed calm though eventually passing his honda mates on that now but seven it also maintained that second position edging out yamaha arrivals spies and jorge lorenzo
honda riders have now won three straight races held on american soil with stoner only years third consecutive when his leader reigning champion lorenzo now increases to forty four points. and back to russian football finally where nineteen girls have been schooled in the premier league in all over the weekend in case you missed any of those heroes our weekly goals galore. so. you. live. live
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