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that is valid the details application but the palestinians have supporters too and they strongly believe recognition is the only way to protect their rights if this happens to. have a nice state be able to maintain peace amidst such strong disagreement with its closest aides quoted spark even more still it's in the region we're talking to palestinian a baskin from russia. post time wants to upgrade its un observers to imagine membership recognition as a sovereign state the final decision is up to the general assembly cannot be made without the security council's approval or. this tricky situation several weeks will pass before a final decision is made nine fifteen council members are ready to support palestine submission. only succeed israel strongest supporter washington.
speaker. welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us to give it a month ago well. well first of all the u.s. veto that may happen for the palestinians bid. in the security council. what will it mean if it's implied what will it would mean for the relations between your country and washington and for the mh of washington on the streets of the arab world here and there but that key because of this that this is something we never want to happen you know my what we palestinians have always cared about building good relations with america and we think we have succeeded in building improved relations with the american administration over the years. what we're heading on a peaceful track with the support of the united states russia and other member
states over the course here is not a bad idea but how will we always in there ever to coordinate our political steps with these porteous if the united states tries to veto or as stated by many american officials and heavy thing such a step would greatly harm the expectations and dreams of palestinians in having their own state when i could have. not only palestinians would be influenced by such the. u.s. credibility would be shaken and with because america itself adopted the two state solution and endeavored to find an end to the conflict in the middle east through establishing a palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with israel in such a man and not think this step we have taken is in line with the goal of the american administration wants to achieve we also believe they in american veto
would be directed against their many friends of the palestinian people as you know the palestinian bid has got the support of the vast majority of the u.n. general assembly and in the world that we. are not the only one very for we think if america vetoes our vision it would be painful blow to the palestinians to u.s. credibility and policy but it has. to the friends of the palestinian people for these reasons we wish you a stimulus trishna reconsiders its position and takes a more positive position in the discussions that take place in the security council regarding our bit fairly. look at the start of. an englishman a new york mr tony blair the quartet representative criticize the palestinian bid for the place in the united nations by saying i quote you can parse whatever resolution you like at the united nations or the security council but it doesn't
actually deliver you a state on the ground in the west bank where they gather strength and quote do you still consider mr. mediator after after side he openly with the israelis now. just we haven't chosen tony blair to be the quartet representative. enough some of us thought he was chosen by the quartet itself and we deal with him since he was chosen by the quartet i can help. you know however we have some observations on the performance of mr tony blair which may as well as the statements made by theme which we can the. for instance he has made some statements which differ from the one you've just mentioned. he stated in some meetings
that go into the un is a legitimate right for the palestinians no one has the right to argue against them about it and only. the quartet itself has to decide whether it's approved performance this is coordinating or in the. these are not simply let's not go by you know we think that some of its members also have some questions on his performance how about i say to you. well today it's a decisive decisive days for the fate of the palestinian state well he wore the investor in moscow in russia how important is your position today what does palestine next to expect from russia and the situation and what did i do confirm here is that we palestinians are proud of our historical relations with russia you
know i look at that when you don't see yes i will see but we also have a great respect for the russian policy thought of c.s. which has shown to be a rational witness and in line with the international laws and like i said few of the philistine for. this is pelosi an ambassador in russia and i always consult with our russian friends in the coordinate every step we take with them. the election. said with respect to many issues relevant to the work and the cod courts here or other positions related to the russian rule as a peace phone service and keep clear on the national arena nor local see local media can i confirm that the russian position is essential and the highly respected and appreciated by both the palestinian authority and the palestinian people and
the walk of. war and we consider russia the conscience of the quartet because it always here is that its position must be in line with international legitimacy and laws that. we want nothing more than the application of the international laws with respect palace to the. and this is something russia has always cold for i'll call the for the money a weapon few well that's why we highly appreciate its position here to have a clue is constitutional with it about all the issues. the fussy one of the impossible decision it seems to me in many observers in all the situation is the status of east jerusalem which which is supposed to be part of the palestinian state but it was officially next by israel after nine hundred sixty seven war and now isn't closed in israeli territories so is it realistic i know you
have the right but is it realistic for palestine day to claim this part of the city as your capital and do you think there still may be roof in the. east either. nor do i think jerusalem he says very important and sensitive for palestinians and muslims around the world record from the legal aspects of this case. these tours on this part of the palestinian territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and that. therefore the law applies to it is to deploy to all other arab territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven including the west bank and gaza strip. and therefore the issue of jerusalem is a koori shoe i said and there have been agreements between us and these release these skis from beneath goshi to support of the final agreement with of such as the
refugees issue the borders of the settlements issue as well as the water issue that the media and therefore our demand for east jerusalem to be our capital is legal legitimate and humanitarian to end the moral demand. we agreed jerusalem is to be divided into two. parts of the eastern part as the capital for the palestinians and the west nile card as the capital of israel and this is what the international community approved also. this reason this case should not be subject to the mood and wheel of life we care to stablish an everlasting peace in the region this peace should be based on international legitimacy of the application of international laws then returning the rights to their own or in this
case east jerusalem what i do here is a legitimate genie in a ride for the palestinians and then it is our right to have east jerusalem as our capital. also the events in the general assembly on down the status of the palestinian state. after the vote will take place even if it's in favor of the country do you expect may we expect all i knew full well i'll violence from the secularism in the west bank now. that we palestinians have always feared that our moves should be political moves. much the model for the in the moves a mic to it is carried out by the palestinian people in support for the political decisions here are all peaceful and completely nonviolent ones. then we have taken a decision that the violence would never and should never be our means to get our
legitimate rights and. that's why we should certainly every possible effort to keep all staffs and popular activities peaceful and nonviolent. acim media i'll be a definite on this is because we believe violence would never bring us closer to or of the character of the today's. anniversary of the first intifada your so the group on september twenty eighth lent the fog and we do you remember very well they used to seek these advances are predicts to destroy all our accomplishments we made in the previous years therefore we are keen not to repeat this experience less know how to see an island or indeed has little but a say rather we endeavor to continue negotiations since you come back to negotiations order for us both to find an end to this conflict and.
i shall be a three year old so keen that all popular activities are peaceful city and within the peaceful is the nonviolent framework of our struggle that on earth. says i and that mustafa i listed in bastard to rush spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break stay with us we'll be back in no time to continue alter. it . wealthy british style. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy
with much stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report. even the crux of this plan the secret. project is the case. whether it is a produced press. or a shamanistic which. crossroads of privilege. faces strong spirit is tom. welcome back to spotlight i'm all going off in just reminded of my guest on the show today is friday stuff on the palestinian ambassador to russia you actually say
but how about well many people say that today the arguments perilous time in the united nations are the same that the arguments of israel many many years ago when when they were joining the u.n. is it true. times have changed. and i. thought of that one with the day when we knew within the framework of the united nations we do some the pieces so for a solution a one eighty one approved by the un general assembly in nineteen forty seven for this the. fittest the media which divides palestine into two states one for the palestinians and another one for these religions as he said but if it's me or someone you have been with there might be some similarity between them the time of the foundation of the state of research nine hundred forty eight
you know our demands to do. good. for the the needy so for the other there is some truth in this in the key however so things have changed the vast least since that day and now we are in our sixty third years suffering from occupation of the. city and. many clashes and wars bloodshed and talking has taken place since the first round of negotiations in ninety nine he wanted. to go out to sea and. after all these years we want to go back to the united nations and to the general assembly to speak to the world generally and to hold the united nations accountable for the injustice johnson. a. woman but that it was the united nations which divided tell us time into two states about the fashion
who say this we have yet to establish who won these rule our state tell us stein is still waiting to be established that they in. if any account of that away from the state well that the morning's raid. may be different but the standards within the united nations should be the same and here today we see in the case of double standards at least this this is what it looks like let's take a look at how israel was accepted into the un six decades ago here's a story from spotlights the demitra. the jewish state proclaimed independence and applied for e.u. when membership in one nine hundred forty eight however at the time it found itself a war with its arab neighbors to be accepted into the e.u. when it had to prove itself and peace loving nation following two failed un beads
israel succeeded in becoming a you were a member only after it signed armistice is with egypt jordan and lebanon no peace agreement with the palestinians was required of it at that time however when israel applied for you were number should it argue that it would be easier to resume issues around palestinian refugees and the status of jerusalem if it was awarded state who'd kenyans used to say more humans these days this term the us is not convinced it condemns the palestinians unilateral application and demands peace talks with israel be completed first of all must promise to veto palestine's you and b. to the arab world accusing him of double standards they still require a bomb a speech in cairo in two thousand and nine where he was addressing our listing in suffering. well so we
are part of the story at least. what is likely to happen take into account the american veto power is that the un general assembly will grant palestinian the status of a member state this may or this is probably will happen how important. is it for the alst that. our mission is to get full u.n. membership with dog being vetoed. and we consider this membership our legitimate right there who. it is being vetoed. then the second option for us is to return to the un general assembly to get this member state status. of this would raise the status of the palestinian issue and partially it would improve our status internationally so for your farm in my case you are giving us the chance to enroll in the organizations or through aid to the
un. however this would not prevent us from going back once again to the un security council to apply for food membership. and we consider the status of an observer nonmember state as a partial victory for us it would make us even more ambitious to require full membership in the united nations. why hasn't palestine. apply for this for example for a nonmember state as before i have heard an opinion that your form of government they want stated they liked the way it was like status quo is that true. we consider that. observe a nonmember state status does not need a great effort at that. since a maturity is available at the un general assembly. however
we believe the international community should help us acquire membership which means for us the basis of any coming negotiations would be different from the current ones if we get our state recognised by the united nations hell. i say leave alone at this. time dealing with the palestinian issue would become different . but only because it wants to recognize the case would become is such a dial down when i think of the a for this then the palestinian state which is a fool member of the united nations is being occupied by another state and israel which is also a member of the united nations. a lot of consequence plea negotiations would move on these basis to un member states one. occupying the territory of another un member state and tell us time i've done this if either the early
c.s.c. and moreover are getting international recognition it would determine all borders which are the nineteen sixty seven borders which include east jerusalem and david egypt and who will fold in this case any further negotiations between the two parties should be based on the legitimate right of palestine to get eats independence. but they don't and will do or pencil the c.s.u. is a core issue for us since new commitments in the ne go shisha is to be held between the two parties in the future if it. i'm best there mr. after. palestine will get even a nonmember state this it will give you rights is it true that the first thing i will do is to see you israel to take israel to the international court this is a truth and said that no this is not accurate we don't plan to use the international organizations to change the israelis so this is remarkable is it
possible to have this is our right that we have the right to do that than how that happened. but if your question is whether we are going to do it in the way you just mentioned the answer is no. hold on what i have we are responsible. people who read and we shoulder responsibility towards our people for this the need we don't want to start a crisis and it was so fun at the sun we would behave within the international community with big responsibility meaning that we don't want to confront these release or d. americans. all we want is to keen for our people the right to stablish their own state women sie an independent palestinian state within the nineteen sixty seven borders in order for us to boost and improve our economy. that will enable us to secure a better future for our people. shot and then read confrontation is not our objective
it told another officer law those who objected are these release and the americans can try to use this issue as a means to frighten others. and if the palestinians would escalate the situation by making use of the international organizations. here i confirm that we would never behave in such a manner. and that we are going to fully respect all international laws. and implement our commitments. there is a word that israel and the states are planning to sort of punish the palestinians for a stubbornness and then seeking recognition the end is palestine ready for the toughening of the of the financial blockade for example as you know the
palestinian economy is a poor economy because it is connected with these really conning me due to the occupation then therefore we can assume that your any economic and financial cages however here a question may be raised. illinois are the palestinians punished for taking such a. i was always was not an aggressive war criminal step on with that all he did is that we turned to the international community to claim our legitimate rights and we wanted the united nations to consider our peace which has been suspended for over sixty three years should you tell us kenyan people get punished because. the united nations to claim it's a legitimate right so within international law called the you know what i think this is unfair and unjust and so that was genius should not be punished for such a step wealthy and those countries that might impose sanctions on the tele senior
people would do him justice you could if there was change in people and would punish the palestinian citizens for a mistake that they did not commit therefore we didn't hope that those states threatening to impose sanctions on the palestinians would refrain from such a strategy and we also hope that the international community would not allow israel to use economic sanctions against the palestinians for taking such a step the shop assistant here excellently thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that right on the show was fired mustafa the palestinian ambassador to russia and that's if not from all of us here if you are in fact yourselves part like you could always drop the spotlight will be back with more force than common found what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our take and take.