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next on our team spot lies goes face to face with the palestinian ambassador to russia. you know it's a. presentation at the. application but. is the only way to protect it's. just. to maintain
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peace amid such strong disagreements. we're talking to. the final decision. be made with the security council's approval. thank you very much for being with us. well first of all the
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u.s. veto that may happen. security council. what will it mean if it's implied what will that would mean for the relations between your country and washington and for the image of washington on the streets of the arab world here. the key to this than this is something we never want to shop and then why would we palestinians have always cared about building good relations with america and we think we have succeeded in building improved relations with the american administration over the years. what we're heading on a peaceful track with the support of the united states russia and other member states of the quartet i wonder how. we always endeavor to coordinate our political steps with these supporters if the united states tries to veto our bid as stated by
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many american officials think such a step would greatly harm the expectations and dreams of palestinians in having their own state when. not only palestinians would be influenced by such as the us pretty ability would be shaken because america self adopted the two state solution and endeavored to find an end to the conflict in the middle east through establishing a palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with israel and mammon i. think this step we have taken it's in line with the gold the american administration wants to achieve we also believe the american veto would be directed against the many friends of the palestinian people as you know the palestinian bid has got the support of the vast majority of the un general assembly and in the world. therefore we think if america vetoes our
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decision it would be painful blue to the palestinians to u.s. credibility and policy but as. to friends of the palestinian people for these reasons we wish u.s. administration reconsiders its position and takes a more positive position in the discussions that will take place in the security council regarding our. look at the start of with. an englishman in new york mr tony blair the quartet representative criticize the palestinian bid for the place in the united nations by saying i quote you can parse whatever resolution you like at the united nations or the security council but it doesn't actually deliver you as state on the ground in the west bank or the gas of strip and quote do you still consider mr blair to be honest mediator after off to the side he openly with the israelis now. definitely we haven't chosen tony blair
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to be the quartet representative. he was chosen by the quartet itself and we agreed to deal with him since he was chosen by the quartet i. do know however we do have some observations on the performance of mr tony blair as well as the statements made by theme which we conveyed to him directly. for instance he has made some statements which differ from the one you just mentioned. he stated in some meetings that go into the un is a legitimate right for the palestinians and no one has the right to argue against them about it and. the quartet itself has to decide
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whether it's approved performances in school ordinator in the. steve or not. although we think that some of its members also have some questions on his performance. say. well today it's a decisive decisive days for the fate of the palestinian state well he water the investor in moscow in russia how important is your position today what does palestine expect from russia in this situation and what i do confirm here is that we palestinians are proud of our historical relations with russia. when c s i but we also have a great respect for the russian policy which has shown to be a rational way and in line with the international laws and take
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a selfie of the philistines. and is there an ambassador in russia i always consult with our russian friends. every step we take with them. be a lesson. with respect to many issues relevant to their work in the policy will be court said or other positions related to the russian rule as a peace phone service and keep clear on the international arena. because i confirm that the russian position is essential in the highly respected and appreciated by both the palestinian authority and the palestinian people. and we consider russia the conscience of the quartet because it always kira's that its position must be in line with the international legitimacy and laws that.
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we want nothing more than the application of the international laws with respect to the pal. and this is something russia has always cold for i'll call the for this the nia what infused with it that's why we highly appreciate its position and care to have a clue consultation with it about all the issues. that the flossy one of the impossible decisions it seems to me in many observers in all this situation is the status of east jerusalem which which is supposed to be part of the palestinian state but it was officially next by israel off to nine hundred sixty seven war and now is enclosed in israeli territories so is it realistic i know you have the right visit realistic for palestine today to claim this part of the city as your capital and do you think there still may be room for negotiation around these tools and. i think jerusalem is very important and sensitive
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for palestinians and muslims around the warren report from the legal aspects of this case. most part of the palestinian territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven that. therefore the law applause to it is a de blas to a lot or arab territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven including in the west bank and gaza strip. therefore the issue of jerusalem koori shu i said and there have been agreements between oss in these release this case should be negotiated. final agreement with the forward such as the refugees issue the borders of the settlements issue as well as the water issue of the at the mia therefore our demand for these jurors to be our capital the legal limit
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and humanitarian and the moral demand. that we agreed jerusalem is to be divided into two. parts of the eastern part as the capital for the palestinians and the west as the capital of israel and this is what the international community approved also. for this reason. should not be subject to do. we care to stablish an everlasting peace in the region. should be done international legitimacy of the application of international laws then returning the rights to their own or in this case. it is a legitimate ride for the palestinians it is going to have east jerusalem as our capital. also the vote in the general assembly on down the status of the
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palestinian state. after the vote will take place even if it's in favor of your country do you expect may we expect all a new flow of violence from the settlers on the west bank now. that we palestinians have always cared that our moves should be political moves. and the moves to it is carried out by the palestinian people in support for the political decisions here are all peaceful and completely nonviolent and now. we have taken a decision that the violence would never and should never be our means to get our legitimate rights and. that's why we shall exert every possible effort to keep all staffs in popular activity is peaceful and nonviolent.
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and it on this is because we believe violence would never bring us closer to our objectives to decent. and in verse thirty off the first intifada. september twenty eighth the fog and we do you remember very well. of these events as a pretext to destroy the compliments we made in the previous years therefore we are keen not to repeat this experience less know how to see an island or indeed there's little but us or other we endeavor to continue negotiations to come back to negotiations order for us both to find an end to these conflicts one took a shot be keen that all popular activities are peaceful city me and within the peaceful nonviolent framework of our struggle on that on it. says that mustafa populist investor to rush spotlight will be back shortly after we take
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whether it is a buddhist prayer. or shamanistic mature. crossroads of religious. faith is strong spirit is. welcome back to spotlight i'm not in just a reminder that my guest on the show today is fired mustaf on the palestinian ambassador to russia you actually see but how about. well many people say that today the arguments of palestine in the united nations are the same that the arguments of israel many many years ago when when they were joining the un is it
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true. times have changed. today when we move within the framework of the united nations we do so on the basis of frist solution one hundred one approved by the un general assembly in nineteen forty seven for this. for less than the which divides bella's time into two states one for the palestinians and another one for these religions cease. being or there might be some similarity between damn time of the foundation of the state of israel in nine hundred forty eight you know our demands today. not that good. for the sofa at the start of it there is some truth in this however so things have changed since then and now we are
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in our sixty third years suffering from occupation. the city and. many clashes wars bloodshed and talking has taken place since the first round of negotiations in nine hundred ninety one. at the said the city and what that after all these years we want to go back to the united nations and to the general assembly to the world and to hold the united nations succumb to mow for the injustice. or bad. woman but that it was the united nations which divided tell us time into two states a bad official. say this we yet established to want. our state. to be established in. that way for the state well the did
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more and maybe. may be different but the standards within the united nations should be the same and here today we see another case of double standards at least that's this is what it looks like let's take a look at how israel was accepted into the un six decades ago here's a story from spotlights the demitra. of the jewish state proclaiming the independence and the plight for you when membership in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight however at the time it found itself a war with its arab neighbors to be accepted into the year when it had to prove itself a peace loving nation following two failed un bids israel succeeded in becoming a un member only after it signed armistice is with egypt jordan and lebanon no peace agreement with the palestinians was required of it at that time however when israel applied for you want membership it argued that it would be easier to resolve
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issues around palestinian refugees and the status of jerusalem if it was awarded state who'd palestinians use the same arguments these days this term the us is not convinced it condemns the palestinians unilateral application and demands peace talks with israel be completed first bombers promised to veto palestine as you and be led to their of world accusing him of double standards they still recall a bomber speech in cairo in two thousand and nine where he was addressing palestinian suffering. well so we have a part of the story at least. what is likely to happen. is that the un general assembly will grant the stay this. member states this
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may add this is probably will happen how important is it for the past. to get a fool un membership with veto. and we consider this membership our legitimate right to vote who. it is being vetoed. then the second option for us is to return to the un general assembly to get this member state status. of this would raise the status of the palestinian issue and partially it would improve our status internationally so for. us the chance to enroll in the me are going to see through in the us was so for you. however this would not prevent us from going back once again to the un security council to apply for food membership. and we consider this status of an observer nonmember state as
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a partial victory for us that would make us even more ambitious to acquire food membership in the united nations. why hasn't palestine. apply for this for example for a nonmember state as before i have heard an opinion that your former government did stated at all that they liked the way it was like status quo is that true or not we consider that. observe a nonmember state status does not need a great effort at the. available at the un general assembly. however we believe the international community. he should help us acquire membership which means for us the basis of any coming negotiations would be different from the current ones if we get our state recognized by the united nations. said leave alone at this time dealing with the palestinian issue would
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become different. because who wants to recognized the case would become as such. for this to depend. fool member of the united nations is being occupied by another state and israel which is also a member of the united nations. consequently you go she would move on this basis to un member states one. occupying the territories of another un member state that hell is tiny. see and moreover getting international recognition would determine all borders which are the nineteen sixty seven borders which include east jerusalem. in this case any further negotiations between the two parties should be based on the legitimate
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right of palestine to get its independence. but the. core issue for us since it's new commitments to go shisha is to be held between the two parties in the future if it. i mean best or mr. palestine will get even a nonmember state this it will give you rights is it true that the first thing palestine will do is to see you israel to take israel to the international court this is a truth and no this is not. we don't plan to use the international organizations to change the israelis so this is possible is it. this is all right that we have the right to do that. but if your question is whether we are going to do it in the way you just mentioned the answer is no. we are responsible people to
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read and we shoulder responsibility towards our people off the list and the we don't want to start a crisis. was so fun at the we would behave with the international community with a big responsibility meaning that we don't want to confront these release or the americans. all we want is for our people the right to stablish their own state. who are an independent palestinian state within the one nine hundred sixty seven borders in order for us to improve our economy. that would enable us to secure a better future for our people. shobna confrontation is not our objective is that all. those who object to. these release and the americans can try to use this issue as a means to frighten others. palestinians would escalate the situation by
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making use of the international organizations. here i confirm that we would never behave in such a manner. and that we are going to fully respect all international laws to. implement our commitments to do that. there is a word that israel and the united states are planning to sort of punish the palestinians for a stubbornness and then seeking recognition is palestine ready for the toughening of the of the financial aid for example as you know the palestinian. poor economy because it is connected with these really conning needs you to the occupation then therefore we can assume that you're any economic and financial blockade however here
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a question may be raised illinois are the palestinians punished for taking such a. i was always was not an aggressive war criminals among them with the idea now all they do it is that we turn to the international community to claim our legitimate rights and we wanted the united nations to consider our peace which has been suspended for over sixty three years. to tell us union people be punished because. the united nations to claim it's a legitimate right so within international law called the it though what i think this is unfair and unjust within so those teens should not be punished for such a step will be in those countries that might impose sanctions on the palestinian people who would do injustice should be palestinian people and would punish the palestinian citizens for a mistake they did not commit therefore we do hope that those states threatening to impose sanctions on the palestinians would refrain from such
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a step and we also hope that the international community would not allow israel to use economic sanctions against the palestinians for taking such a step a shot but for the state here excellently thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that right on the show was fayyad the palestinian ambassador to russia and that's if an hour from all of us here if your entire you're seeing spotlight you can always drop a spotlight it will be back with more face time comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take.
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