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if you boil it since. midnight local time greek public sector workers began a strike aimed at grounding aircraft stopping trains and other services in protest against austerity measures they call it barbaric athens and this is deficit targets prompting the euro zone finance ministers to delay handing out bailout cash until at least mid november. and up next on our t.v. the fate of palestinian statehood is discussed in our interview show spotlight. today. you know as a nation security council discussions palestinian. prison.
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is not expected. application but the palestinian. recognition is the only way to protect its. state be able to maintain peace amidst such strong disagreement. even more. we're talking to palestinian. recognition as a sovereign state the final decision is. made with the security council's approval.
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fifteen council members are ready to support. the big. speaker. thank you very much for being with us. well first of all the u.s. veto may happen. security council. what will it mean if it's implied what will it would mean for the relations between your country and washington and for the mh of washington on the streets of the arab world. and the key to this thing this is something we never want to happen then why would we palestinians have always cared about building good relations with america and we think we have succeeded in building improved relations with the
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american administration over the years. what we're heading on a peaceful track with the support of the united states russia and other member states of the quartet is not about i wonder how will we always endeavor to coordinate our political steps with these porteous if the united states tries to veto our bid as stated by many american officials think such a step would greatly harm the expectations and dreams of jealous seen having their own state when i could have the. only palestinians who would be influenced by such . u.s. credibility would be shaken because america itself adopt the two state solution and endeavor to find an end to the conflict in the middle east three stablish in a palestinian state living in peace and security side by side with israel in such a moment. think this step we have taken is in line with the gold the american
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administration wants to achieve we also believe that the american veto would be directed against the many friends of the palestinian people as you know the palestinian bid has got the support of the vast majority of the un general assembly and in the world. well therefore we think if america vetoes our vision it would be painful blue to the palestinians to u.s. credibility and policy but it has. to do friends of the palestinian people for these reasons we wish u.s. administration or reconsiders its position and takes a more positive position in the discussions that will take place in the security council regarding our bid. look at the start of. an englishman in new york mr tony blair the quartet representative criticize the
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palestinian bid for the place in the united nations by saying i quote you can parse whatever resolution you like at the united nations or the security council but it doesn't actually deliver you as state on the ground in the west bank or the gas strip and quote do you still consider mr blair to be honest mediator after side he openly with the israelis now. definitely we haven't chosen tony blair to be the quartet representative. he was chosen by the quartet itself and we agreed to deal with him since he was chosen by the quartet. however we have some observations on the performance of mr tony blair as well as the statements made by theme which we conveyed to him directly.
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for instance he has made some statements which differ from the one you just mentioned. he stated in some meetings that go into the un is a legitimate right for the palestinians no one has the right to argue against them about it and. the quartet itself has to decide whether it's approved performances and scored nader in the. steve are not going to sit there. although we think that some of its members also have some questions on his performance. say. well today it's a decisive decisive days for the fate of the palestinian state well he water the investor in moscow in russia how important is your position today want to spend
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this time expect from russia in this situation and what i do confirm here is that we palestinians are proud of our historical relations with russia you know i look at that if when i got into theatre on a c s i but we also have a great respect for the russian policy which has shown to be a rational way at this and in line with the international laws and a few of the philistines. and this is tell us the an ambassador in russia i always consult with the russian of france coordinate every step we take with them. be. with respect to many issues relevant to their work and policy will be courts or other positions related to the russian rule as a peace phone service and keep clear on the international arena. because
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i confirm that the russian position is essential in the highly respected and appreciated by both the palestinian authority and the palestinian people. and we consider russia the conscience of the quartet because it always here is that its position must be in line with the international legitimacy and laws that. we want nothing more than the application of the international laws with respect to the pal. and this is something russia has always told for. for this the nia within few will and that's why we highly appreciate its position here to have a clue consultation with it about all the issues. that the flossy one of the impossible decisions it seems to me in many observers in all this situation is the status of east jerusalem which which is supposed to be part of the
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palestinian state but it was officially next by israel off to nine hundred sixty seven war and now isn't closed in israeli territories so is it realistic i know you have the right because it's realistic for palestine today to claim this part of the city as your capital and do you think there still may be roof a negotiation around these tools and. i think jerusalem is very important and sensitivity for palestinians and muslims around the warren report from the legal aspects of this case. is jerusalem is part of the palestinian territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven that. therefore the law applies to it is a de blas to a lot or arab territories occupied in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven including the west bank and gaza strip. therefore the issue of jerusalem
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koori shu says and there have been agreements between austen these release this case should be negotiated as part of the faunal agreement with the flow of such as the refugees issue the borders of the settlements issue as well as the water issue . therefore our demand for these jurors to be our capital the legal limit and humanitarian and the moral demand. we agreed jerusalem is to be divided into two. parts of the eastern part as the capital for the palestinians and the west as the capital of israel and this is what the international community approved also. for this reason. should not be subject to do. we care to step in everlasting peace in the region. should be based on
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international legitimacy the application of international laws then returning the rights to their own or in this case. it is a legitimate ride for the palestinians it is alright to have east jerusalem as our capital. after the vote in the general assembly on down the status of the palestinian state. after the vote will take place even if it's in favor of your country do you expect may we expect all a new flow of violence from the settlers on the west bank now. that we palestinians have always cared that our moves should be political moves. in the moves to it is carried out by the palestinian people in support for the political decisions here are all peaceful and completely nonviolent and now.
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we have taken a decision that the violence would never and should never be our means to get our legitimate rights and. that's why we shall exert every possible effort to keep all staffs in popular activity is peaceful and nonviolent. and it on this is because we believe violence would never bring us closer to our objectives today's the. and in verse thirty off the first intifada you saw that broke out on september twenty eighth the fog and we do you remember dearie well. these advances are predicts to destroy the compliments we made in the previous years therefore we are keen not to repeat this experience less know how to see an island or indeed there's little but us or other we endeavor to continue negotiations to come back to negotiations order for us both to find an end to
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this conflict. one took a shot we're also keen that all popular activities are peaceful city and within that peaceful nonviolent framework of our struggle. says that mustafa. bastard to rush spotlight we'll be back shortly after we take a break stay with us we'll get back in no time to continue. even the wrong place and should land a sacred. magic is the essence of life.
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welcome back to spotlight i'm algorithm just a reminder that my guest on the show today is friday star far the palestinian ambassador to russia you actually see but how about. well many people say that today the arguments of palestine in the united nations are the same that the arguments of israel many many years ago when when they were joining the u.n. is it true. times have changed. along with the had today when we knew within the framework of the united nations we do so on the basis of frist solution one hundred one approved by the un general assembly in nineteen forty seven for the. for this then the divide spells time into two states one for the palestinians and another one for
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these religions that. fits. them in your brain while there might be some similarity between damn time of the foundation of the state of israel nine hundred forty eight you know our demands today. not that good. for this the need so for the start of it there is some truth in this however so feelings have changed since then and now we are in our sixty third years suffering from occupation. that city and. many clashes and wars bloodshed and talking has taken place since the first round of negotiations in nine hundred ninety one. at the said the syrian one after all these years we want to go back to the united nations and to the general assembly to the world and to hold the united nations succumb to will for the injustice done to the.
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woman but that it was the united nations which divided tell us time into two states by the fashion. this week yet established one rule our state. still waiting to be established in. that way if it is the well the do mornings maybe. may be different but the standards within the united nations should be the same and here today we see another case of double standards at least that's this is what it looks like let's take a look at how israel was accepted into the un six decades ago here's a story from spotlights the demitra. of the jewish state proclaiming the independence and applied for e.u. when membership in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight however at the time it
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found itself a war with its arab neighbors to be accepted into the year when it had to prove itself a peace loving nation full when two failed un bids israel succeeded in becoming a un member only after it signed armistice is with egypt jordan and lebanon no peace agreement with the palestinians was required of it at that time however when israel applied for you want membership it argued that it would be easier to resolve issues around palestinian refugees and the status of jerusalem if it was awarded statehood palestinians use the same arguments these days this term the us is not convinced it condemns the palestinians unilateral application and demands peace talks with israel be completed first bombers promised to veto palestine as you and beat led to their of world accusing him of double standards they still recall a bomber speech in cairo in two thousand and nine where he was addressing
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palestinian suffering. well so we have a part of the story at least. what is likely to happen. american veto power is that the un general assembly will grant the stay this. member states this may add this is probably will happen how important is it for the past. to get a fool un membership with veto. and we consider this membership our legitimate right. it is being vetoed. then the second option for us is to return to the un general assembly to get this nonmember state status. of this would raise the status of the palestinian issue and
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partially it would improve our status internationally so for. us the chance to enroll in the organisations affiliated to the un was so. this would not prevent us from going back once again to the un security council to apply for food membership. and we consider this status of an observer nonmember state as a partial victory for us that would make us even more ambitious to acquire food membership in the united nations. why hasn't palestine. apply for this for example for a nonmember state as before i have heard an opinion that your former government didn't want stated at all that they liked the way it was like status quo is that true. we consider that. observe
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a nonmember state status there's not a great effort at the. available at the un general assembly. however we believe the international community. he should help us acquire membership which means for us the basis of any coming negotiations would be different from the current ones if we get our state recognized by the united nations. said leave alone at this time dealing with the palestinian issue would become different. because once recognized the geese would become as such. for this to depend. fool member of the united nations is being occupied by another state and israel which is also a member of the united nations. consequently when you go she would move on these basis to u.n.
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member states and one. occupying the territories of another un member state. i. see and moreover getting international recognition would determine all borders which are the nineteen sixty seven borders which include east jerusalem and. in this case any further negotiations between the two parties should be based on the legitimate palestine get its independence. hence the core issue for us since it's new commitments. to be held between the two parties in the future if it. i mean best or mr. palestine will get even a nonmember state this it will give you rights is it true that the first thing palestine will do is to see you israel to take israel to the international court
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this is a truth and no this is not. we don't plan to use the international organizations to change the israelis so this is possible is it possible. this is all right that we have the right to do that. but if your question is whether we are going to do it in the way you've just mentioned the answer is no. we are responsible people to read and we shoulder responsibility towards our people off the list and the we don't want to start a crisis. was so fun at the we would behave with the international community with a big responsibility meaning that we don't want to confront these release or the americans. all we want is to gain for our people the right to stablish their own state. who are an independent palestinian state within the one nine hundred sixty
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seven borders in order for us to boost and improve our economy. that would enable us to secure a better future for our people. shobna confrontation is not our objective is that all. those who object to. these release and the americans can try to use this issue as a means to frighten others. to palestinians would escalate the situation by making use of the international organizations. here i confirm that we would never behave in such a manner about the and that we are going to fully respect all international laws that. implement our commitments. there is a word that israel and the united states are planning to sort of punish the palestinians
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for a stubbornness and then seeking recognition is palestine ready for the toughening of the of the financial aid for example as you know the palestinian. in a music poor economy because it is connected with these really conning needs you to the occupation then therefore we can assume that your any economic and financial book ages however here a question may be raised illinois are the palestinians punished for taking such a. always was not an aggressive war criminals. now all they do it is that we turn to the international community to claim our legitimate rights and we wanted the united nations to consider our peace which has been suspended for over sixty three years. people be punished because. the united nations to claim it's a legitimate right so within international law called the it oh what i think this
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is unfair and unjust with and so that was genius should not be punished for such a step wealthy in those countries that might impose sanctions on the palestinian people who would do injustice in people and would punish the palestinian citizens for a mistake they did not commit therefore we hope that those states threatening to impose sanctions on the palestinians would refrain from such a step and we also hope that the international community would not allow israel to use economic sanctions against the palestinians for taking such a step the shah but for the state iraq thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that right on the show was fired by the palestinian ambassador to russia and that's it for now from all of us here if you are intact yourself spotlight you can always drop the spotlight will be back with more face time comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t.
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mission which has not passed. on an entirely different philosophy the philosophy of confrontation. china voted against of the draft u.n. security council resolution on syria. sanctions could lead to. a new resolution. and allow time for internal reforms the russian ambassador. is not supporting president assad but wants to bring an end to the violence through talks.


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