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welcome to. the police corruption a. test that nobody seems to know. that never appropriate to
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face but hardly argument that they're being overly dramatic. i decided tonight i thought it was the florida state representative brad drake the graduate number of the g.o.p. loves to emphasize his tough on crime credentials and of love for guns just take a look at one of his past campaign commercials he's the only. and brad is not kidding about being tough on criminals he this week he introduced a bill that would do away with lethal injection in the state of florida and replace
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it with the electric chair and the firing squad brad says we still have old sparky and if that doesn't suit the criminal then we'll provide them with a forty five caliber will lead cocktail instead he went on to say there should be anything controversial about a forty five caliber bullet if we were up to me if we would just throw them off the sunshine skyway bridge and be done with it now when asked about his proposed law seeming cruel brad had this to say even frankly my dear i don't give a damn i'm so tired of being humane to inhumane people you know i just honestly don't even know what to say this man other than the fact that he clearly is sick it is not bit to be in office and as far as reference to old sparky that's florida's electric chair the primary source of killing inmates were nine hundred twenty four until two thousand more than two hundred inmates died in that chair or old sparky was retired after several inmates caught fire during their executions something i think most sane people can understand is very clearly a form of cruel and unusual punishment now under graduate's new bill the electric
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chair would be the primary source of executions in the state but a prisoner of the option of dying by firing squad as well he just might be thinking i was from a live nation the us would never allow firing squads but you would be wrong now we reported to you the past utah executed inmate last year by firing squad the state of utah is the only state that still uses the soaring squad and forty nine year olds can just double murder ronnie gardner was pronounced dead at twelve twenty eight am local time that's standard mountain time here in the state of utah just about four minutes ago. five individuals all thirty caliber rifles. now we must say that in that case the man who was executed it was his choice to be executed by firing squad but when asked brad drake so the idea to bring back the electric chair and firing squad came from voters that he spoke with at a waffle house that's right ladies and gentlemen brad drake and his advice on how to
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carry out the death penalty from patrons at a greasy restaurant chain found mostly along interstates it's just a sad state of affairs an elected official actually speaks publicly let alone introduces legislation that takes us back toward barbaric days so first sick comment is archaic idea of bringing back firing squad and the electric chair rights to all time award goes to florida state representative brad trait. and now talk about the protect ip act something we've spoken about at length on the show in the past a bill designed to stop any attempt of copyright in its tracks any website domain or individual who's engaging in any form of copyright infringement even linking to a form of copyright infringement could be caesar shut down of those calls not only on law enforcement also individual internet service providers to search for anybody who's illegally sharing music movies or any other pirated materials so for months now we've discussed how this broadly expands the government's abilities when it
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comes to censoring pieces of the web and it gives the attorney general or even those who have had their copyrighted material pirated they've delivered to go after the infringers themselves but while we have expressed our concern over the protect ip act this chamber of commerce has been rallying behind this bill now maybe rallying is an understatement it's more like fear mongering and releasing videos like this what other business would it be ok for you to lose fifty percent of your product and then come forward what worries me is that there's a hole in the system that i think that one of the places where the system is broken is where the hardest part getting paid for the work that they're they're doing and open it up and the checklist for oh about eight dollars and i just stop for a moment i thought i loved her how much the check would have been had everyone purchased the d.v.d. . so clearly those types of ads appeal to actors musicians writers anyone else in the entire entertainment industry i can't say i'm surprised after all this bill was basically written as a favor to hollywood and use that industry but i digress now it turns out that
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a lot of tech companies out there teamed up with the chamber of commerce over the years but ever since the protect ip act has become one of the chamber of commerce's focal points they're changing their minds it's just been announced that yahoo is parting ways it with the chamber and while they did it quietly rumor has it the final straw was over the extremist videos and statements dealing with the protect ip act or yahoo joins a growing number of groups have decided to leave the chamber of commerce mostly because of their pay to play model meeting whoever throws the moan that the most money will become one of the c o c that major lobbying efforts apple exelon p.g.d. of also quit the chamber over their political positions and we should note the local chapters of chambers like the san francisco c.s.c. have broken ties as well so we have major company after major company leaving organization one can only hope the departures will encourage the government that's not listening to those glorified lobbying group as a single voice for the business of america and rather the knowledge of what it is a pay to play operation with a nice title. now just
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a few weeks ago the entire country watched as the last attempts to crop the execution of troy davis failed a man whose guilt was in doubt was put to death by the state of georgia after thousands of people around the country staged protests signed petitions and even lawmakers and foreign leaders joined in opposition i wonder if i case might change minds about capital punishment here in america so let's take a look at the latest gallup results of the latest results of a gallup poll that was conducted shortly after davis' execution sixty one percent of americans now approve of using the death penalty but that's down from sixty four percent last year over the last seventeen years we've seen a nineteen percentage point drop after approval shot up to an all time high of eighty percent in one thousand nine hundred four and these latest results show the death penalty supporters falling to a thirty nine year low so they try davis help train driver to and could support keep dropping when people hear about the case of hank skinner are discussed this with me is mike ritz and says the end they're out reason magazine and reason dot
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com mike thanks so much for being here tonight your course so i mean what do you say about this gallup all one hand you think great or i think great support for the death penalty is it a thirty nine year low at the same time fifty one percent of people still support the death penalty so a lot that's way more than half if this were a ballot initiative or a constitutional amendment. the people who are ok with the death penalty i think would win but i also that's not the only trend we're seeing the sort of decrease in support we're also seeing you know you mentioned the year one thousand nine hundred four as being a high watermark was also high watermark for executions post the reinstatement of the death penalty about supreme court there were over three hundred people sentenced to death row in one thousand nine hundred four this year or early in two thousand and ten it was just over one hundred so i think maybe one reason we're seeing sort of support increase is because you know we know now there's no quantity of a state of evidence for using it doesn't deter crime it's incredibly expensive and prosecutors don't see the need to use it as much as they did so. dozens present and
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of course you point out troy davis i mean that was huge that was huge i mean this is a guy who was executed despite all these questions discrepancies in his case left and i'm wondering you know because if you look at these gallup results they show that over the last seventy five years i mean it's really been a bit of a roller coaster when it comes to support or opposition to the death penalty and i'm just wondering why this is such an issue that is you know so fluid for people you would think that this is something that you you make your decision and you stand your ground but at the same you know we really see no flow and is it because of high profile cases maybe our emotions just up right now because of terry davis i think it's one of those issues that the more and i again i don't know if people are thinking about it more although cases like troy davis make me assume that people are thinking about it more but i think as people think about it more they realize it's like very difficult to have a solid position on capital punishment for instance if your idea of the reason you support is because this is going to deter people from committing murder well when you start to think about capital punishment and learn about it you realize that's
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actually not the case when you learn for instance as the poll came out in two thousand. the very bottom of their list of things that they thought helped them do their job being able to having capital punishment as an option did nothing for them i mean two percent law enforcement officials thought that that was helpful for their job so the story here is this it's like this like for instance in florida which is execute fifty one people since receiving the death penalty in the one nine hundred seventy s. they spent thirty five yeah yeah going viral off the bridge right they've spent twenty four million dollars per inmate and they've actually had fifty one so when you start hearing all this stuff i think it really comes out for most people a moral argument i mean arguably people who are up on death row or if they're guilty they're sort of the worst of our society they're people who couldn't really brutal crimes against other people the most brutal crimes and so when you think i really does come down to this thing will do i believe that it's the state's position to exercise vengeance and there's no clear answer the. so i mean if you
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look at the statistics to really differ is here by my facts by your political affiliation you know my region it's mostly republican males in the south that there are in favor if you like a gallup result but you know you bring up a case that the point that some people think that these are the guiltiest of guilty and they're horrible people but guilt can be in doubt and so i look at a lot of outrage davis and tell us more about the case of hank skinner here's a man it's said to be executed on november ninth in texas ok so hank skinner was convicted in the ninety's of acts of murdering his girlfriend and her two grown sons and there was a lot of evidence that i mean this is the center of sort of being one of the witnesses as in the case of three davis retracted her testimony she initially claimed that he came to her house and came to her house so can blood and media after the murder and admitted to doing it. he says he didn't do that because he was so high on coding and so drunk on our call that he could barely move his attorneys
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have a blood test that they say that he was basically incapacitated this witness retracted her testimony so all the circumstantial evidence is totally in question in addition to that there's all this physical evidence there are hairs that were found at the crime scene there are just all the stuff that we tested for d.n.a. that the state of texas is refusing to do so this is definitely one of those cases i mean troy davis all the eyewitness testimony about the way i witness testimony was retracted or refuted this case it's not you know when it's just me it's in question and see actual nuts and bolts of the evidence against it just seems a ludicrous to me right if you have so much d.n.a. evidence to work with it hairs or pieces of clothing a carpet what not then how could you possibly not test it on mention there be some kind of a law that forces you to test all day every think there should i think part of having a right to a fair and speedy trial as technology improves is to is for the state to invest everything it can in proving. that you're guilty and i think that also means i mean
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one way to think about what's happening in texas right now is that a possibly innocent man is not being given every benefit of the doubt all the tests necessary another way to look at is the state of texas is not doing due diligence and they're going to execute a man who they have not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is guilty and what their excuse me the other thing that it's too expensive or something because you know just cause he was not executed before and right and you know justice scalia had to step in if i stay on execution and so a year later why is nothing changed rise again i haven't been tested and i think i think cost is a straw man argument i mean i know prosecutors and district attorney i'm going to use my death row right exactly because the appeals process on death row i mean again it's millions of dollars in some states like florida tens of millions of dollars per prisoner for the appeal process plus the cost of the execution itself so that argument is bogus it's a bogus argument that i mean the d.n.a. tests will cost two thousand dollars his attorneys are willing to pay for it is
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legal team is going to pay for it they're still not going ahead with it just yet and i and i think part of it is that the incentive if you're a district attorney or a prosecutor and you're publicly elected for instance or publicly elected judge i mean you you want on your resume that i took this really horrible person and i killed them you know i mean that makes people feel safe right you think there's any chance that this case like i said november ninth right so the clock is ticking down and he was execution date could this be another troy davis like a freight train a bus was ignored for a long time but then it became very high profile and you had politicians you had leaders from around the world you know people petitioning protesting all around the country i think it could be you know troy davis is basically had a huge vocal group of supporters for a very long time you know over twenty years i'm not sure in this case that that support is there that grassroots support is there i'm also a little bit concerned that there may be issue three teeth on this because troy davis wasn't spared i mean he was executed there may be
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a sense of emotion. moral exhaustion on the part people who are opposed. well that's unfortunate mike i want to thank you so much for joining us you know if any new details do come out in the next couple. of follow thanks so much. so intel is coming up next and i'm happy out banning even driving laughter perry says president obama punching a banker. into it only. if you don't work to bring justice or. i have the right to know what my government you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. see
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a story. you think you understand it and then. some other part of it and realize that everything. is a big. you
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know the reason he. was testing nobody seems to know. the number of pepper spray defaced but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. i just time for show and tell on tonight's program last time we spoke to journalist david sirota and we discussed the washington disconnect with occupy wall street movement as you can the president's senior adviser david bloom said that obama is on the side of the protesters even though they're very much protesting against a system that he's a part of so should i like it officials even get involved or should they let the
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protesters speak for themselves that a producer for treason essentially to find out what you have to say. remember the old saying if you can't beat em join em well that's exactly they were approach republicans had taken with the tea party and now it seems some democrats are considering a take with occupy wall street you have president obama john good as another key democrats touching on things that tie the protesters to the democratic party demands for tax changes and here the protesters really buy it considering the democratic party is part of the system that they're fighting or do they see it as an attempt by washington to manipulate the situation and frame it in light of twenty twelve election well james said stay out they have john are not greg suggested they endorse it but then again they never will because they are the one percent said stay out since they don't have a clue about reality only people who have lost their jobs in homes fully understand this. to ation on twitter d.s. virus told us if they become involved it will end up like the tea party
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a good cause hijacked by politicians an interesting point i mean the tea party began as a movement outside the two party system but the status quo found a way to erode their independence a lot of the lines and dissolve the group's momentum by using political clout n.p.r. to pull them into the system and once again it seems like a big political parties will be taking calculated steps to see if they can pull some of the wind out of this independent movement. now as always we thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you at home early in the show we spoke with edward harrison about democrats and republicans coming together to ask three free trade agreements last night what do you think in these types of free trade agreements help or hurt the u.s. economy you can respond with on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just like me.
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i got that for happy hour and joining me tonight is archie producer jenny churchill and mike riggs says the editor i reasoned magazine and reason dot com thanks for joining you guys for any of that really starting to happy hour and if you're not in the monitor the height difference maybe i'm sure jenny today will giants little person i hope what am i against and like in between or something you know you come out of the normal and i love the i love the purple combination you guys have going on. that ok let's take a look at these clip it comes from the onion but. take a look. ok breaking news now poll data is showing president obama's popularity is skyrocketing after punching a dozen baker ron miller in the mouth few hours ago but this is a fall the banker did nothing to provoke a punch which was captured by a photographer during a white house meet and greet it's like a little mr moneybags is giving obama instant credibility among voters who had previously been critical of his reluctance to shatter some wall street with this. i
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love the last play of the best peter the great thing about this as i was thinking about it is that yes as much as i think americans would like to see wall street bankers be prosecuted and you know feel a little justice. i think a punch in the face would probably really get you know like the emotional swell up and be enough there's the people over here and then what are you hearing from america were real like i can imagine them both being behind stage obama is like a i'm really sorry i do that but you know like it's for the sake of appearances are you going to get two million in campaign donations from your bank right for the people for the gases and it was a autistics move here as well it's about this was it reminding me of the movies where you're watching and the bank robbers become the guys you're rooting for so in this like obama who we're not rooting for right now punches someone else and therefore becomes the good guy even though he's not the guy yeah a montage plays right after that with the structure exercising and like just arguing with people or i'm not going to lie down anymore and just but larry summers sort of my face maybe that's what they're going for it with you know with like
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weird sounding oiled by iran that worked with you know used car salesmen mexican drug cartels a little. anyway trip on ok for those of you who have never been to a rave let me just give you a little taste of what one looks like the big one. right now is. the carnival butt. anyway so in los angeles there's a are in california democratic assemblywoman fiona ma trying to ban ok for a fifteen year old girl died at the electric daisy carnival apparently from an ecstasy overdose probably because that sort of really doesn't go to raves do a bunch of ecstasy and so she tried to ban rave music basically she introduced legislation that would have me conducting an event that includes spirit music and
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last one three one half hours a misdemeanor offense of the ten thousand dollars penalty then she found out this little bit most first impulse was to embrace or to go look at approach ran into some problems with found out later on that constitutionally you cannot be a type of music. we found out later on oh no i'm going to take you live yeah oh yeah right like three weeks on that legislation going all the i's cross and they just forgot to check it was leaning toward many other people do you think were involved in this process of actually writing the legislation and you know i just heard they really got people on board involved nobody was like. man it's like. you know unconstitutional i'm all for i'm with her man that you know the ravers have room i like i went to a concert lately i just like you and i went to a concert recently and i had a reese's spills in the bottom of my purse and made it out every single one because they were like no because you have to see is make everyone is a recent piece is telling you is terrible and serious matter really there can be
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very very easy and you should not have their freedom of speech and expression obviously but she then tried i think to suggest that state agencies prohibit people from bringing. gloves and a pacifier. that's got to stop every one of them growing existing all the vessels are going to be going to come here and i mean ecstasy just makes me want to put something in their mouth but i actually think pacifiers probably a better option than other things you might find a very honestly what you put away rossellini sure. you know some some fire ok speaking of putting things in your mouth i look at one chicago suburbs trying to do. before you hit the road you might want to think before you rethink. either chewing out a possible ban and eating while driving. was absurd ok so
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obviously the silent killer fast i mean clearly you know there is a problem with people being distracted while driving and physically or so that like eighty percent of the time that's the reason for a car accident and so we've seen a lot of states now you know make it illegal to be on your phone while driving or texting while driving but they get texting while driving is actually dangerous you know i still do it all the time when i was communicator and i should not it was not that good also for the legal but look at it. while driving i'm still i think you probably eat without getting distracted i'm actually all for all these crazy restrictions who are actually for the free market solution which if i'm a runner is are you are saying is a higher is higher insurance rates for people who want to engage in risky behavior in their vehicles so we i mean if you really go here and we wonder you know why would i be running to all the driving we do retroactively punish people for driving poorly but what if you want to drive like faster than the posted speed limit or you want to like put on
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a chili cheese dog and like you know like if i could actually get past or maybe you should drive faster than the speed limit i would totally go i stay right here because i'm so sorry for you if you don't think you know this is what you're in for some several of them stupid but i'm really upset because heinz just came out this container is that you can dip your fries and while you drive while you try it's very little if anything on the game now there's an assault on the eating mcdonald's fries it's just it's ok so this latest or next story last or you sorry currently mind blowing sex can actually be mind blowing and scientists have found that it can actually wipe away your memory is the fifty four year old woman who arrives the hospital here in d.c. in a state of panic. she just had sex her husband and she immediately one has all recollection of the previous twenty four hours turns out it's a rare condition called transit global amnesia and it's temporary but it's it's really severe you can lose your whole memory you know what i was just thinking of
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today is that we're out of this excuse you know when other people were in college and they had their blacked out later and were hooking up with the person now people have a study proves they do it sorry you know there's a study my mind got a great. stranger bend me too hard i was unable to get the assignment look i was redoing something wrong because this isn't happening to me and frankly i'm a little disappointed. that you were going oh i want to go over the edge and get to the place where i did this obviously it's like look i don't mean to be crude was literally banging somebody pretty so i make sure i have of course you can't because we're out of time i think i think he was offended johnny's sensibilities america's security tonight that there's been a show thanks for tuning in make sure to come back tomorrow we'll be live from new york with the latest on our eye wall street and the impending showdown between the protesters and my fleet what i'm missing any time to get the family launched a slick policy on twitter if anything about you that i'm going to tell us next is
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