tv [untitled] November 4, 2011 11:30pm-12:00am EDT
mission originally where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. a. few. folks. are you ready to rumble joining me this week for the big picture rumble are derek a columnist of town hall contributing writer for big government dot com the daily caller air here canoing a democratic strategist here in washington d.c.
and sony katz host of the tony hayward's radio spectacular on the patriots media network let's get started so why do republicans hate average americans and love billionaires we have a jobs and poverty crisis in america republicans filibustered another jobs bills last night you know president obama lost to a four hundred fifty thousand americans back to work rebuilding roads that really need it and would have paid for with that seven tenths of one percent surtax every dollar made after the first million it won a majority of votes in the sun but it was still filibustered by the republicans feel both republicans and filibustered cut off will subsidies the five big oil companies exxon chevron b.p. conoco phillips shell all shell even though they're already making over one hundred billion this year now we've got to give them another six billion in corporate welfare republicans are calling for lower corporate tax rates even though g.e. boeing wells fargo paid zero tags of the last three years and one hundred sixty billion bucks and i just don't get it you know i don't get we're trying to compare
with what he did was a bipartisan filibuster it was a democrat and you don't like the democrats who voted against it but you hate bill now that's just how it was a fool or a finite thing of the. not wasn't on the grass but i will say i will say i'll stand up for republicans here i'll say the town not like to say that they don't hate everyday americans they just really love billionaires much much much much more than everyday americans you rock obama's dinner with billionaires all the time so he seems very thoughtful and i think what we're trying to go back to the senate bill here in the johnson and this issue with infrastructure and infrastructure in this country is it is a massive problem we saw the minneapolis bridge which class which is why nicholas i was the sponsor of this bill and we know how many bridges are out there that are not structurally sound and it's shovel ready to a lot of places what was the worst what is the thing to do no scenario as we passed there was no you know. there was another where there was a true and i mean it was the states they didn't spend on infrastructure on with the
conversation is that my apologies if i got the wrong nelson there you're thinking that government is the answer for how we get jobs back if we're moving regulations decreasing of corporate tax rates allow the small business owner ok all right so sue me please i don't think i mean all those. jobs but i think that government and green jobs yeah yeah. it's let's just let's be very totally happy there but agency off the government job our office our private sector job tell me how the economy suffers from government jobs are teachers' jobs not is now the only grow under government because the private sector again those it creates more jobs and you know that is really a child is a child no it's not a job or you know it's not just a person job it is somebody in this case and the private sector job creates wealth there's a huge difference in the middle they are employed government and government workers at some of them what i would say so are you know are you going on the record saying
that you think we should raise unemployment yes because with. a five hundred thousand for this year they buy groceries negotiate their mortgage you want to talk about anemic job growth we had eighty thousand jobs created this nice you know one hundred. and we still need three hundred hours of. these roads alone to maintain zero. degree was a star filibuster in the pro he needs efforts to get a job you're right you're right if you spend a trillion dollars. there are out there dollars in the first private construction companies that build roads and bridges and infrastructure because the private sector shops tiny in fact they are you know it's got its own affairs you know like you know if we want to be really against those going to your i was really going to move along because this is this is. republicans put together their put forward their first proposal for the gang of twelve it was eight hundred billion dollars in tax cuts mostly for the rich so reagan's tax cuts in the one nine hundred eighty s. were super can see in the stimulus right he borrows three times the national debt
spends it and then claims credit for the good times that came out of that was george tenet with. the second does the same thing five trillion dollars originate in public and house yes indeed and actually these were you get these were the budgets that reagan proposed you go back and these were the budgets that reagan no . hates no budget reagan proposed ever got now maybe not to the pay we're called indio way every every zero he argues the question are republicans you know here's you know reagan runs up our national debt bush runs up our national that this is supposed to get us economic good times and then the republicans are screaming about the debt but you're still running the national debt or going to get your health care and secure what i don't respect you really going to attack the only person that and check and balance the budget would be a democrat. that the last time it was done i'm sorry i live here i guess are you coming off a. good community right here my point is that is that there is there's
a new absolute meet i just have to answer that newt gingrich stood on the floor of the house of representatives and ordered every single republican to vote against their budget to balance the budget with bill clinton and said in fact that bell if their budget was passed it. lead america into quoting newt gingrich next great depression was going slow going and there was not one single republican i will tell you that ninety three republicans to go over in. a balanced budget started happening in ninety six ninety days out of a system where you have the nation and you already opposed you know that the sending of the art one thousand nine hundred four in one thousand nine hundred four i mean you have to also need i know there's a reason i want to go back to this idea. that the idea that taxes are the big problem here when you have a pool of money you need to be raising money you need to have money coming in and money going out and this idea that we'll continue to have money going out and these works but for now starting out rather magnanimous and let me finish is that the money it's just going out and going out and we're not it's it's not going to be discretionary spending whatever he made that we can't not just only dollars we're
taking in last money that we took in before we were in on gas we take it as giant wealth disparity and the fact that they are corporations and that as you know was it up it says that he paid a high a lower tax rate than his secretary secretary arrays or cut a check to the government he's free to pay as much as love it instead of taking the do produce if the as it is the better the i think it is the only. way to get it structured and unstructured that people like him are paying a lower rate you know you really are allowing it only it was the subjects rate for people who make their money with money or a lot of guys like they are so little and just because these hires the biggest accounting firms in the world he. did as does his own tax and silicon valley in dollars for berkshire hathaway's and there are you conservationist i hold on i got it through there are two conversations that play if we're in favor of balancing budgets why the world would be fair in favor of obama because he isn't balancing
the budget he is spending like a drunken sailor and what you're saying is your claiming that rate exploded by republicans there are just waiting like your just looking at you're going to lose a year's worth of the nancy pelosi do your thing yourself and those around you need . a lot of money. that he now but still i don't think in terms of how many people have been path and how the level of. rasping we need is no i don't believe it's you know i think that it was that if you don't anymore and i know that because you're going to know i mean you want to criticize him and nancy perfect because she did nothing and then now you're going to say that it would be better if she did nothing for the economy she did nothing for the by as you say i think. it was a guy who distributed by the way and i doubt lied to the other day when she said we would be if you can get on the plane that is a lie he has a lot i need my bell here she did pass two hundred twenty pieces of legislation i got filibuster by the republicans and they said gray and they had gone to the reading about including a piece of legislation that would as we're going to give people tax corporations
tax breaks for bringing jobs back home democrats have sixty votes in the senate so it wouldn't just as was possible stated if i don't see what i'm that i would really want to move along here with state of vermont. on this. i don't know sir the state of vermont is trying to be the first state the country to set up a single wide single payer statewide single payer system health care system two different now one political governmental agencies you know basically guys in green age in vermont crunched the numbers on this and the state of vermont will see if they put into place this state wide. basically medicare part d. everybody's got it and put it in this place and they will say to anybody you're on your way at any rate for everybody one point eight billion dollars over the next decade and here's a chart this is from the national nurses association the church shows how a national single payer system would not only replace all the jobs lost in the last year the bush administration the two point six million jobs and medicare it's now.
it's over here and. it will get the economic stimulus the citi group bailout cost us three and this is for a national health care program a secret process through it if you want to bang in for an american. this is two hundred thirty eight billion as a hundred sixty eight billion cost us one hundred fifty billion to cover every single american with a national health care program would cost sixty three billion dollars and probably in a series or not do this and i think no one first first talk about go back to that chart if you go back really quickly i am not in favor of any of those bailouts and i'm sure as heck not in favor of any kind of health care plan that forces me as a contract to be of the barrel of a gun it's just wrong you know i'm talking about national. analysts that the heritage foundation i study i do have my sympathy canada. is moving away from their single payer system there is going to you try telling that to a canadian so i try to tell you to canadian system is great and you get seriously you know you get the flu it's great you get cancer you send to the united states but you can do nothing so you are moving towards
a private system because the public system is bailing out of state keep you treat everybody equally bad with absolute it's a great system as long as you don't have sinatra this is this is it is a very way people would come across the aisle and would be right as well as a reason for cancer treatment nonsense i think not only do i would do better with. a half south of. what is the montreal thank you and everyone we are going private i never saw a canadian in montpelier looking for health care but every single we go was did you see anybody in the series that is every week the buses would line up to fill with americans to go up to montreal to buy pharmacy those same buses would bring cancer patients back to the united states and i would bet you as i was here in the recent what you might mean the america let me be undermined this is a good mine is a really great and a great state to check a pilot program for that's a rather homogeneous population it's a smaller population so you can get a smaller many was fairer system came to the united states for his cancer treatment the guy who decides to pick
a life as we have in the united states you can keep going down that road and we can get anecdotes if you came across the border but i'm sure you can look up he had that for months and i'm usually good state to try as a pilot program. i don't care for cities to to go. what you need allows it because what it does it allow you to take you know a system that's large enough to actually test out what it's like if you something universally but not so large that it's become you know too difficult to actually share things with you know they're going to do with their lives and this i'm not saying that they're not pretty it's just hold on one minute so my point is that if you do it when we look at doing this for the national for the for america authority we found that it was it was a tough thing to do because they have and others are not charts and then charts companies in the way the system currently is and that with the economy being as as kind of volatile as it was that it was kind of you know and i'm sure and we were trying to do a more bigger compromise and a hybrid of a bill with an economic system that the republicans supported and the republicans backed out and didn't want to play a caught but that's not to say that that single payer wouldn't work it would just
need to be all in if you're going to deal with it is there's no you might really to do it until the people without insurance there are floating there somebody without a clearance at six they move there you know seven years ago. everybody who wanted it would. be with you later this year it's works with it's health care so that is actually a reason to run not a single payer so that is being the do what i really want not seeing patients they're not insured. so we all agree with me i was screwed up by the. democrats. as if you can't make progress in michigan you can make it work in the arm with social justice and democrats in michigan have passed a law trying to crack down on pulling the leading cause of teen suicides you know states is mostly gay teens who are bullied and so they passed this law they named it after this kid met airplane and the republicans just in the senate today passed an amendment to the bill that the bill does not prohibit does not prohibit any
statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction in other words if your religion teaches you to hate gays it's ok to bully them to death by we're. going to show you. i want you to show me where this conversation that you have because you're attacking christians that's what you're doing god i'm going to actually believe he did you did he was jesus i think you know why my god why you do this i was really want you to show me where there are christians out there saying it in schools i hate you and i hope you jump off a bridge and die because you're gay you're so to go. back to that share our. values. as anybody who's really as i said it's disgusting that you would even mention that there are universally condemned and you know that it's not likely that you're dying universally economy about their actions or we can actually a conversation right with what you think you know me understand how that my point
is i'm talking about schools no hold on you to try to figure out what i'm really might be partly done when i have two conversations or when i said he said show me some christians and. every religion the same way that nobody thinks that all chiropractor sets muslims no one should think that the westboro baptist church reflects christians but christians but to say that because god told me that i can beat this kid because you know he's what he's doing is wrong or that i don't believe it is now is not ok it's not that you're getting old and it is all you think you know it's. not legislator her reality we're not agreeing with what we're not so you can't can't legislate so we should not have laws against theft. that's not the right word said. that it is not a series of show it's not immoral destroys you know what you are saying is that you want to legislate morality these are also people that legislate if you're going to clean it's based. on all four of us are talking and nobody can hear a word we say just you know just for the record ok so back to this point if you're
saying that if your religion teaches you to hate gays it's ok to intimidate a kid the point where i absolutely could not say that never once go back and check the take what i'm saying is that what this law is trying to do is prevent christians from being christians and christians teach that homosexuality is a sin and you want to take that out yet can't you can argue whether christians are right about it but you can't tell questions they can or can't teach based on their beliefs and i was never taught in my church that being gay is wrong and i just i wrote. back i was taught that what jesus was here on earth could do was to teach us to treat he had he had dinner with the tax collectors and the lepers and prostitutes and that god is the ultimate judge. and that is not really that is to love i don't love my neighbor. as to what is really to you as it is bullying to me is unwilling to the camera man it's subjective it's more thought policing than anything else it's a crime it's a. nose under the tent and
a thought crime bullying should be dealt with by the teacher and by the parents or as it happens it helps because terrorism is terrorism so the guys who flew the poison nine eleven are the same as a kid called somebody's friend their goal was to secure that your perverted view of the reality is to change terrorism is trying to change the news behavior of good bullying leading to show showing i can prevent bullying. suicide to yes so what happens there the only people who ever did it was i believe on this is not in dispute yes it is also called calling it's trying to mediate another person through threat of violence or that kind of persistent. terror art of being a kid for god i actually think it's relevant that you can i you know up as a child without being made fun of and be perfectly how do we end up with him with really high self-esteem and no justification for it who end up can so when he hardly demanding other people i don't think that i didn't think of people i think that they deserve as great you know you're not going to stop who is right i held we
had to go to court for sexual harassment allegations surfaced against herman cain over the weekend his campaign announced he's raised a whopping one point two million bucks so looks like getting yourself involved in scandal and then blaming liberals for targeting you is a pretty lucrative tactic so one of the scandal might some cash republican candidates get themselves involved in this is a point for this is a fifteen twenty second answer just to bring in a few more bucks a mitt romney leads a story that he's embraced as polygamous roots and has for secret rives be rick perry fesses up to his bizarre speech in new hampshire and it c.i.'s one of the losers people were human caused to see rick santorum assaults a starbucks worker after he's asked if he was a skeptic you know extra frothy or you can make up your own i think might be mitt romney's caught drinking a coke or maybe one of them spread the rumor that they spent thirty seven thousand five hundred dollars to have dinner with. one of his rich people there means i think a south a starbucks worker i think we can all agree that we are tired of paying four
dollars for coffee and that we would like it to come back again eighty nine cents like it was in the days when fat in eleven years where you got your coffee. how do you follow the eighty nine same clock. if you have none of those stories are worth the time it's just the important thing to remember is that if you don't like herman cain you're racist and i think that's the important thing to remember and here's my take on it is that herman cain is going to jump into another scandal make another million bucks by announcing that he is the love child of the koch brothers dad fred koch here is to. clarify this bit of media this may be a break into the down summit for the media. i am the koch brothers brother from another mother. and brother. i want a piece that will. i do my own thank you. thank you all for being here
also koch brothers money. coming up on the big picture find our dangerous people the conservative media pal around with a no i'm not talking about republican lawmakers. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions. who can you trust no one who is your view with the global mission would see where we had a state controlled capitalism school sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.
remember. this back in two thousand and eight. is sees america as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country my question is why does sarah pailin herself think america is imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who target their own country after all she's a paid employee of g.o.p. t.v.
also known as fox or called news and fox is pretty well connected with some deranged terrorists and before radical militia men in georgia who were arrested this week after plotting to blow up government officials and poisoned cities of highly toxic rice and one of the plotters allegedly said there's no way for us as militia men to save this country save the constitution save georgia without doing something that's highly highly illegal murder these terrorists were inspired by a former militia leader turned author. who wrote about a revolt against the federal government by militias better go previously called for americans to violently throw bricks through the windows of democratic offices to protest health care reform back in two thousand and nine by the way some were thrown and he's also been featured as a commentator just like sarah palin on you guessed it box so-called news or g.o.p. t.v. i guess fox often lead to dingbats on t.v. as do a lot of networks so we can't really blame them if one of their commentators inspired
a bunch of terrorists in georgia but then there's a case of terrorist scott roeder who killed abortion doctor george tiller in his church back in two thousand and nine any idea where roeder might have got his motivation to kill george tiller and terrorize other abortion doctors across america. the the. the best. you've got the you need. the the. the the. the the. the the. so rotors inspire is another terrorist inspired by something he signs g.o.p. t v what about you are a terrorist byron williams the guy who loaded his car full of guns and ammunition
and jumped on the highway on a mission to kill members of the a.c.l.u. and the tides foundation byron was stopped on the way by cops where any got into a twelve minute shoot out with them more than two hundred rounds fired before surrendering cops asked him what motivated him to terrorize this left leaning organization and here's what he had to say. the conservative values of the best country you look at the old media. the exception you think is. the of. the of. the of one back blue is mine one that devoted
a number of segments on his show to vilifying the tides foundation you call them bullies thugs who want to warp your children's brains and make sure they know how evil capitalism is and what. back warren the tides foundation on his shows saying to them i'm comin for you no need to go after them though glenn byron williams tried to do it for you the point is as much as g.o.p. t.v. likes to hype islamic terrorism and muslim caliphates and ground zero mosque biggest threat doesn't come from the middle east it comes from right here at home it comes from domestic terror as this chart from the f.b.i. shows between one thousand nine hundred eighty ok here's and this is this is basically the this is are all the other forms of terrorism in the united states the average in the us is according to the f.b.i. and this includes you know that a lot of this is muslim terrorism inside the united states i mean so and in fact you interestingly
a chunk of this was puerto rican it actually happened in puerto rico for nationalism there are other groups you know and basically none of them are muslims six percent muslims so between one nine hundred eighty and two thousand and five. all the terror attacks on u.s. soil including nine eleven or at least six percent are carried out by muslims just six percent that's it according to the southern poverty law center there are over one thousand known hate groups operating right here inside the united states of america and their number has grown fifty four percent since two thousand or since far so-called news took on their ultra right wing stance and these hate groups are capable of one thinkable destruction as we learned with the oklahoma city bombing and we nearly learned with this case of these militia men who were arrested for plotting raisen attacks in georgia and train the militia men scott roeder byron
williams and who knows who else has picked up a weapon after being frightened of violence as a common threat and that common thread the thing that you find going through all of these terrorist efforts. at least in the united states the the the oh you could probably generalize this were right but speaking of this at common thread is fear fear of the other whether they be people of color or muslims or gays you name it there's an industry in america and always has been but lives on fear it's only when americans learn to stand up to the fear industry and say we're americans we're the land of the free and the home of the brave we are not afraid it's only then that these people will be stripped of their power to incite fear and will see the hate groups at the domestic terrorists begin to fade away. that's the big picture for tonight a quick announcement for our viewers in los angeles saturday night tomorrow night
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