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has begun seven political parties are now on a media charm offensive to women voters through t.v. campaigning and banners on the streets. of all means no longer dropping on libya but the red cross says it's got a mammoth job ahead that's next in spotlight. bringing you the latest in science and technology from the realms. we've gone to the future of coverage.
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hello yellow welcome to scott like the international politic. and today my guest in the studio is eve. the international committee of the red cross says it's not leaving libya colonel gadhafi is dead nato has gone but the conflict isn't settled yet as people keep fighting and many cities are virtually destroyed. building the country may take years making libya another long lasting red cross mission. how does the red cross manage to conduct so many troops are enough racialist all around the globe and what are the primary issues the organization has to face her asking the head of the red cross if the. big international red cross committee conducts
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several hundred commanded tarion operations in some eighty countries despite its purely humanitarian activity the red cross is not always welcome the volunteers have to take between the warring parties sometimes coming under fire they also have to show the promise of skills as somebody dreams especially in africa and not friendly towards any kind of. our mr the current thank you very much for being with us you better well this week the red cross was meeting with the c.e.o. with the head of the c.e.o. still which is the main the leading post soviet security organization only them outside moscow what was the agenda of our of that meeting we have to again that we have a very very strong relationship with business for another four years and i think that we have two elements one is we wanted to share in fact our reading of what's going on now in the region central asia but also what's going on in afghanistan in
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libya in yemen in syria to make sure that we have a joint understanding that's one and the other element is to talk about preparedness we are living a very very strange world even for the i.c.r.c. even for the red cross i mean things are happening with such a pass and such a difficulty sometimes that is important for us to be ready more than ever and it's important to understand that organization like this you still are also ready maybe to intervene and to understand their point of view and to see how we can collaborate together you have the red cross you work a very humanitarian organization and then you have different aspects but still well the c.s.t. you know is considered by many in the west rightly as sort of a nato i mean law like and will treat military posts only block they're also having many functions well how do you content did do you feel that you still have much in common with this organization you have to know when we are where nine people are working in libya you mention lydia or syria or yemen or palestine or afghanistan
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every day dealing with people but it also dealing with soldiers with military we normally nature very well we know the securities issues so these people are absolutely critical to understand but also to talk to that's one element the other element is there is no crisis anymore in the world without having a humanitarian element but there is also security element there is also economical and today so we very important to bring that together. indeed that send this years to you with this seven country where present a lot of interesting discussions for us and interesting experience very important for us to be able to to have this type of discussion so it's interesting that you consider the more security the militarization this is right i think it is in giving conditions at least you know these days there's a growing line between military and security you should not look any more into just armed or a war i think what is a war today i would ask you a war is levy a war is mexico a war with morris what is simple he said look at it and judging by the fact that the last ministry of war was closed about seventy years ago they are called
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ministry of defense or what's going to be true but what we see in the field is no more and more minister of interior as the minister of defense working together what we see is security is issues about terrorism counterterrorism which goes much beyond just on and i think we need to be able to understand this kind of element very born for us. because presently actively in the world in humanitarian operations after the cult chechnya and also in south a city which is the southern borders of russia are you still involved there is there's still work to be done for your humanitarian mission on the ground one of the problem is that in most of the conflict the conflict might end now we're not at the end long lasting consequences if you two example sausage that yes we are the only international you need an organization still in south ossetia and we are helping more than half of the population not of issues there poverty but also direct consequences of conflict north caucasus yes we are still north caucasus we
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are in one cheek we are in grozny were in dagestan one of the reason is there are some direct problem still links with this region don't involve the missing for example from the former conflict we need to be able to forward out very closely with the people end to end a stand there needs on the spot we are the i.c.c. we are the red cross what we do is we are closer to people we try to. stand their needs and their needs can change their view about something else you mention libya we are convinced today that we need to maintain a presence in libya to be able to understand what the conflict will evolve i hope i hope that the conflict will end maybe but we are rather convinced that we need to stay for a world to understand what my the bigger problems and we think they will be some problems in the coming months you know i work myself with a humanitarian mission in africa for a couple of years in the eighty's where was it in ethiopia unit drought and famine and saw red cross of action and i know that you guys you like giving hard times to
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authorities well this is not new to authorities world we are doing hard time but you this is this is the is is part of the job so say in chechnya in south a city or what you say that you are arguing. thirty's or authorities getting a deal that will point of departure because it's never it's there that well a perfectly aboriginals on the outside of the departure is not to give hard time or not to some people in our point of departure is read the needs of the people right and some of the needs are very basic but some of the needs are really more difficult to express and let's take an example missing person we have in the region people especially in a conflict which disappear into difficult and we are the only one to come again and really to insist on the fact that this family they need to receive a response of course authorities are not very happy to have people knocking on their door remembering them that you need to know that it's not only in russia or
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in caucasus it's true in cars of all it's true in afghanistan it's true not of places but we need to be able to do that same elements to gain something a difference in terms of the tensions as one of example yes of course when we work in afghanistan when we walk in one terminal our job is to make sure that our respected and that internationally meant in law is respected so that's our job and we do that but important what we do we do that with everybody not only with one. we do that with every bodies and we are serious about it years back to libya well let's take a look at the humanitarian situation of libya these days spotlights he lives in media reports. according to media's national transitional council that asked him a good number killed during the eight months of civil war he's twenty five thousand that bodies have been found in mass graves thousands of families across the country are waiting to find out what happened to their loved ones and war accompanied by nader and strikes resulted in hundreds of thousands of libyans flee the country for
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safer places some of them eventually found themselves only dillies overcrowded lampedusa island to give the garden nationals fleeing from their arab spring and arrest those who stayed in libya had to face the shortage of water food medicine and fuel many regions had permanent cuts in the electricity supply the civic infrastructure has been so degraded it will take months if not years to restore and there's the short sub-saharan africans who came to libya as migrant workers before the uprising many of them have been persecuted by the forces of the national transitional council over allegations he served as khadafi is mercenaries about one million sub-saharan africans are estimated to have where to leave years since the conflict started about seven thousand us do and the township amnesty international
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reports to which it is routinely used against suspected could go off a little ists. is the red cross obtaining the access to people who have been captured during the recent fighting and libya specially such a place for example a suit which is which was a combative strong point from bay one in fact we can see. to have access boss they are also in tripoli what makes a difference with between the i.c.r.c. and not at all their organization we are trying to have access and discussing with all the parties yes we got that we got access to the conditions of this but i cannot speak it out because normally the first things we do is we speak first to the authorities not in general the concern you have in you would you expressed about what we call certain national people who have no passport are coming from sub-saharan africans are absolutely serious a lot of problems a lot of concern about about their fate during the during the situation and
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typically that's one of our priorities to get tensions people detained are always always with high availability so we are there to try as much as we can to make sure that they are respected and we will follow that very closely but i must say i'm also very concerned about all health issues in terms of in fact infrastructure hospital were hit and we can see a lot of doctors and nurses left the country we need to make sure that there is ability in libya to have a health system which works again otherwise we will be confronted with very serious problems what can you see about libya from the points of view of compliance to the wooden rules are very. humanitarian law i mean where they are they really violate the genius of it's in my experience and i'm sad to say it and i have not gone across any conflict where the rules were always respected oh i thought all sides yes absolutely via a leader we had plenty of problems absolutely clearly on both sides war is even
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through first century a war is something the people don't play by the rules let's put it that way i would say the rules are absolutely fundamental but it can't just make and elements it's not like driving and careful of what i'm saying but drive driving is critical if you there will be no rules people will be totally crazy but even with rules you have plenty of people who just don't respect the rules in wartime in a violent situation the rule are fundamental the basic. are there it's means respecting people why wouldn't it for them i think this is basic and i must say in the media yes of course we had violation but it's important to say we were able to work on both sides from day one we were able to go in prison we were able to go into hospital and to really work it's not always the case i've been in other places where we're not maybe able to work a day one says eve the current director general of the international committee of the red cross spotlight will be back should be making things as a tribute to newtown so they would.
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than members of congress. thank. you and. welcome back to the spotlight i'll be in auburn just a reminder that my guest on the show today is a man who is the head of the international red cross's name is eve that park where . took
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a break when we started talking went libya well i want to ask about the recent fighting the fuse fighting in suits and valley where leaders do two cities where the level of destruction well if we charge for what we saw on television was just enormous yes so what was the the level of human human suffering and i mean how many non-combat can people suffer of there and lost their lives it's difficult to have precise figure especially in this conflict that we've heard a lot of different figures let's say served as a country as the town has been rather severally destroyed and our concern is in fact we see that a lot of system have been destroyed in libya our concern is about water system it's a country if the water system is this or is problematic it's also about energy system no they have always we know that but if the system is destroyed that's problematic and then as we discussed before health system i would be concerned if you saw in tripoli when tripoli of fall we see that there was a lot of when the people are not treated anymore lack of doctors lack of nurses but
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also a lack of access to prison and that's maybe one of my major concern and we see that not only by the way in syria we see that also in afghanistan where access to hospital is more and more difficult and it's important for us to make sure that access to under the hospitals to fair treatment is absolutely ensured in libya we need to be very careful that it's an intern will you talk about access actually of the red cross spokesman mr steven anderson says i quote that the team found the hospital insert was overwhelmed with wounded people so why the medics from from the red cross from the front for from the libyan red crescent go out to two to get access to get adequate medical help we were we were allowed to get access and to be honest with you insert at that very moment it was during two days in fact the bombing and shelling were so the fickle that we are asked to go in the hospital and then to go to withdrawal it was it was too dangerous and i didn't want them to be exposed you know. and and and to take too much risk but very clearly some of our
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colleagues on the leading red crescent were able to work in india and hospital and then we were able to to do a difference and the hospital. will change what stick was subject to change in location syria is red cross able to provide help to the to victims of violence in the country in syria and syria is a very difficult situation it's a complex situation we are the i.c.r.c. we gots the access in fact to the to the country so we are able to work in the country where we want to work we negotiate to have access also in prison as you know for us in prison it's very important like prison because this is where you have a lot of vulnerability and that's where people sometimes are faced with a very difficult situation and here i must recognize it's still difficult we've been able to visit one major prison in damascus but we are willing to give it more prison and it's a it's and i'm really looking forward to get the green line now from the government to be able to really work where we want to go to work in in the country yemen is
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another place where we see a situation ready to go out of control or actually actually it's developing into a full fledged military curl thing doesn't worry you does it worry the red cross so getting ready to to get fully the world in europe we're worried about yemen for years i'm sorry to say down to we perceive yemen or in a very difficult situation can treat almost cut in three days a different dynamic and it's true there is a lot of concern in the country now it's very worrying to see that even santa the capital of the country is now completely are would say torn apart abide by the tensions there and yes we do think in terms of the humanitarian consequences young men is in mind to be one of the worst country over over the coming months it's absolutely we're ready but unless we do you you never really ready to to face a conflict we have to have a lot of team there people are well trained they can do the difference but on the same time soon never nor there the scale of the conflict and you have to be angle about. about what might have
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a good rule do our best and we're already in our team is in sana'a inside out in hadn't been able to run to the difference we're in from the mistaken with as a journalist a feel they're the worst the worst humanitarian situation the we have a which is the reason why what was the situation around well if it's true do you think that we can see something similar to what happened in rwanda that in the twenty first century were actual community can start things like that does have the leverage to stop. i'm shared you know on one side of my side will say never ever again but i thought before ninety four that we would never see what we saw in london so when i saw what happened in rwanda i was so shocked so surprised i was at my calling the world now my colleagues were there in hong to treat people in the midst of the genocide now let's hope and i do think the world is changing and i think maybe what is changing is you and we not as journalists and me are being interviewed by the
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people who are outside looking at us they have not go by phone there is internet i think what we seen in the middle east for example the fastness with which image horse fly and influence people maybe maybe best what would make a difference and put so much pressure on all of us to go faster and to intervene that we won't see you wonder i mean it's interesting that you mentioned the exchange of images will the public display our detainees and mortal remains that was committed where the new government. in different countries of the libya for example would it triggered a great deal of reaction and debate so what does the red cross think about these issues in general what we say is very it's very basic we would like sometimes to come back to basic you know in a conflict that was useful to remember that what we're seeing is when somebody is arrested when somebody is a control under the control of people these people should respect the person that's
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it that it was about detentions it's about wounded and that's what we expect very clearly that people are respected whatever their rank whatever their responsibility that's very important of their respective. following the liberation of this israeli soldier of the young girl or the international committee of the red cross cross said that the glow plate of guns that violates the geneva convention which demands collective punishment of a civilian population that was a quote so was the captivity of july actually the official justification of the bloke do you get any signs any any response from israel which would which will tell us that the blockade may be lifted it. we never ask ourselves why there is a blockage right i mean we can have different point of view if the blockade is for this reason or this one what we see is the humanitarian consequences of a blockade and if this blockade and months to i would say what we call collective
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punishment where an entire population doesn't mean we have the right to live as they said yes we do consider absolutely if the geneva convention apply and in this case the general mentioned by yes we do actually consider is of your violation of of the geneva convention what we do we don't speak only about about that in the media what we do is we discuss that with the israeli but also with the palestinian authorities every day we discuss that in our must with hamas also every day in terms of their responsibility of how it works in order to make sure that people can have access again to health to water to basic basic needs what are the course will not be heard whose responsibility is on me and the master of the israeli work if you can tell me. on whose side do you think the way who is more able i mean israel or the pros to me and to to get it moving i mean the dialogue
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the overcoming problems in the region i was at the ball is everywhere that's maybe the problem there is not one ball right i think we have several really believe we are several more of that's true and i think the question is not my senses when you see for different reasons you see a country or different country being blocked my hope was that the international community will be able and smart enough to bring these people together and trying to find solutions right maybe i'm talking almost as a citizen you know citizen of the world of amazing i hope we find solutions for palestine and palestine israel problems if we don't i think we should watch out carefully what will happen over the next month says with syria with lebanon coming up possibly and with palestine i think we will be. confronted to have to deal with humanitarian consequences and i really i'm. i must say i'm not very optimistic if there is no real solution be found in the coming months now on the other hand maybe when the tension is very high then you sue some gesture i thought that the exchange
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of prisoners was a good humanitarian use let's hope it's not the only one but it now let's talk about. the problem in africa which is violent and there are i myself witnessed witness firman in ethiopia now but i think some male somalia is facing a similar problem with least event loop and they desperate with the national committee of the red cross in somalia he said we want to feed one billion people by the end of the feeling we're only million people by the end of the year means a major problem so so is it really it is bad yes you really have to look at not only somalia you have to look at all of africa you mentioned a choke line but you have if you look at our garden so mali and possibly part of kenya we all know this is a region under enormous pressure to pressure or three pressure if you want but a lot of these are going to twenty years of sincere and mean exactly you have one conflict loser somalia twenty five years of a lot of a very very intense conflict almost virtually no state north service and most
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importantly you have drought you had also floods and last but not least don't forget economic crisis and we all feel the economy crisis but the one really feel it are the people who have to pay every day of their price of food in the enterprise of the food are going up there so yes it's a very serious people crisis and the most serious crisis is really in somali absolutely and yes we are just getting you know one million it's serious and it's complex we can do it we have the absolutely the means to do it the problem is it we need to sustain this aid over time that's the problem of somalia and we hope this aid also will help them just to manage a little bit a little longer you know that's that's really the problem ok we're all trolls the message here for this interview of thanks very much in just a reminder that my guest today was either director general. of the international committee of the red sea and that's it for now for all of us if you want to have your sales pipeline drop me a line that out there in the empowered fantine dots are you and let's keep the show
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