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campaign kicks off to win seats in the country's lower house of parliament seven major parties will be competing in the december fifth elections. next in spotlight today subjects the red cross and its continuing humanitarian mission in libya is less than a minute away. we'll . bring you the latest in science and technology from russia. we're going to the future of coverage.
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hello yellow welcome to squad like the international party prime and today my guest in the studio is eve that. the international committee of the red cross says it's not leaving libya colonel gadhafi is dead later is gone but the conflict isn't settled yet as people keep fighting and many cities are virtually destroyed through building the country may take years making libya another long lasting red cross. how does the red cross manage to conduct so many people in foreign operations all around the globe and what are the primary issues the organization has to face we're asking the head of the red cross. that international red cross committee
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conducts several hundred humanitarian operations in some eighty countries despite its humanitarian activities the red cross is not always welcomed and volunteers have to take between the warring parties sometimes coming under fire they also have to show diplomacy skills to some regimes especially in africa and not friendly from lourdes any kind of foreigners. howard is the current thank you very much for being with us here as well this week the red cross was meeting with the c.e.o. of the head of the c.e.o.'s here which is the main the leading post soviet security organizational meeting them outside moscow what was the agenda of all of that meaning you have to again that we have a very very strong relationship with this city or for another four years and i think that we have two elements one is we wanted to share in fact our reading of what's going on now in the region central asia but also what's going on in
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afghanistan in libya in yemen in syria and to make sure that we have a joint understanding that's one and the other element is to talk about preparedness we are living a very very strange world even for the i.c.r.c. even for the red cross i mean things are happening with such a pass and such a difficulty sometimes that is important for us to be ready more than ever and it's important to understand that organization agonists you are also already moving to intervene and to understand their point of view and to see how we can collaborate together you have the red cross you work a very humanitarian organization i know you have different aspects but still well this see a studio is considered by many in the west and been rightly as sort of an they tell i mean like well like i will treat military post uk they're also having many functions well how do you content did do you feel that you still have much in common with this organization you have to know when we are where ninety bill are working in libya you mention libya or syria or yemen or palestine or afghanistan
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every day dealing with people but also dealing with soldiers with military we know military very well we know the securities and shoots all of these people are absolutely critical to understand but also to talk to that's one element the other element is there is no crisis anymore in the world without having a humanitarian element but there is also security element there is also economical and today so we very important to bring back together. any that send this years to you within seven country were present a lot of interesting discussions for us and interesting experience very important for us to be able to to have this type of discussion so it's interesting that you consider them more security than military. this is a relative thing it is in a given conditions at least and you know these days there's a growing line between military and security you should not look any more into just armed or a war i think what is a war today i would ask you a war is levy a war is mexico a war for us what is important is
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a look at it and judging go the fact that the last ministry of war was closed about seventy years ago they are called ministry of defense or the war is going through but what we seem to feel is mom or more our minister of interior as a minister of defense working together what we see is securities issues about terrorism convert terrorism which cause much beyond just armed and i think we need to be able to understand this kind of element very hard for us and she. has been actively involved in the humanitarian operations after the cult throat's in chechnya and also in south a city which is the southern borders of russia are you still involved there is there still work to be done for your humanitarian mission on the ground one of the problem is that in most of the conflict the conflict my the end now we're not at the end long lasting consequences if you two examples also said that yes we are the only international you made an organization still insults or sit there and we are helping more than half of the population not of issues there poverty but also
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direct consequences of conflict in north caucasus yes we are still north caucasus we are in nashik we are in grozny were in dagestan one of the reason is there are some direct problems dealing with this region to the missing for example from the former conflict we need to be able to follow it up very closely with the people and to understand their needs on the spot we are the i.c.c. we are the red cross what we do is we are closer to people we try to. stand there needs and their needs can change talking about something else you mentioned libya we are convinced today if we need to maintain a presence in libya to be able to understand what the conflict will evolve i hope i hope that the conflict will end maybe but we are rather convinced that we need to stay for a world to understand what might that be the problems in everything they will be some problems in the coming months you know i worked myself with a humanitarian mission in africa for a couple of years in the eighty's and i are where was it anything during the
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drought and famine and i saw red cross direction and i know that you guys you like giving hard times to authorities well this is not unusual for it is what we are doing hard time but you this is this is the is as per your job so say in chechnya in south a city i would say that you are arguing. thirty's or authorities but given that i deal well how's that with our point of departure because it's never it's not about what like perfectly aberrational isn't known but the point of departure is not to give hard time or not to some people are point of departure is really the needs of the people right and some of the needs are very basic but some of the needs are really more difficult to express and let's take an example missing person we have in the region people especially in a conflict which disappear it's difficult and we are the only one to come again and really to insist on the fact that this family they need to receive a response of course authorities are not very happy to have people knocking on their door remembering them that we need to know that it's not only in russia or in
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caucuses it's true in cost of all it's true in afghanistan it's sure not of places but we need to be able to do that same element to gain something the difference in terms of the tensions as one of example yes of course when we work in afghanistan where we walk in one family our job is to make sure that we are respected and that internationally maintain law is respected so that's our job and we do that but important what we do we do that with everybody not only with one. we do that with every bodies and we're serious about it what year started libya well let's take a look at the humanitarian situation in libya these days spotlights you know the media reports. according to libya's national transitional council that asked the mated number killed during the eight months of civil war is twenty five thousand bad boys have been found in mass graves thousands of families across the country awaiting to find out what happened to their loved ones the war accompanied by nato
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and strikes resulted in hundreds of thousands of libyans fleeing the country for safer places some of them again should found themselves only to leave crowded lampedusa island together with other nationals fleeing from their arab spring out of rest those who stayed in libya have to face the shortage of water medicine and fuel and the region's had permanent cuts in the olive trees of the supply the civic infrastructure has been so degraded it will take months if not years to restore and there's the short sub-saharan africans who came to libya as migrant workers before the uprising many of them have been persecuted by the forces of the national transitional council over allegations he served as gulf is mercenaries about one million sub-saharan africans are estimated to have fled leave years since the conflict started about seven thousand are still in the township amnesty
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international reports to which it is routinely used against suspected could be off a loyalists. is the red cross pertaining the access to people who have been captured during the recent fighting in libya especially in such a place for example a suit which is which was a combative strongpoint from day one in fact we. to have access bourse benghazi but also in tripoli that what makes a difference with between the i.c.r.c. and not at all the organisation we are trying to have access and discussing with all the parties yes we got that we got access one of the conditions of this being i cannot speak about that because normally the first things we do is we speak first to the authorities maybe in general the concern you have in you would you expressed your journalists about what we called serve national people who have no passport are coming from sub-saharan africans are absolutely serious a lot of problems
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a lot of concern about about their fate during during the situation and typically that's one of our priorities the tensions people detained are always always with their abilities so we are there to try as much as we can to make sure that they are respected and will be followed very closely but i must say i'm also very concerned about all health issues in terms of a trial infrastructure hospital were hit and we can see a lot of doctors and nurses left the country we need to make sure that there is ability in libya to have a health system which works again otherwise we would be confronted with very serious problems what can you say about libya from the point of view of compliance to the wooden rules are very personal humanitarian law i mean where they are they really violated you discover it's in my experience and i'm sad to say it and i have not gone across and the conflict where the rules were always respected but i think all sides yes absolutely media in libya we had plenty
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of problems absolutely clearly on both sides war is so evil through first century a war is something that the people don't play by the rules let's put it that way i would say the rules are absolutely fundamental but it can't just nickel and elements it's that like driving and i'm careful of what i'm saying but driving driving is critical even if there will be no rules people will be totally crazy but even with rules there are plenty of people who just don't respect the rules in wartime in a violent situation the rule of fundamental the basic. are there it's means respecting people wonder from them i think this is basic and i must say in media yes of course we had violation but important to say we were able to work on both sides from day one we were able to go in prison we were able to go into hospital and to really work it's not always the case i've been in other places where we're not even able to work of day one says eve the company director general of the international committee of the records spotlight will be back should be making things as an interview in the file so stay with us to. pick up.
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to. see what nature can give you an aussie. welcome back a spotlight i log in often just a reminder that my guest on his show today is a man who is the head of the international red cross his name is eve that car where . took a break when we started talking mental libya well i want to ask about the recent fighting the fuse friday in suits and danny where leaders do two cities where the level of destruction well if we charge for what we saw on television was just enormous yes so what was the the level of human human suffering and i mean how many non-combat can people suffer in there and lost their lives it's difficult to have
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precise figure especially in this conflict that we've heard a lot of different figures let's say served as a country as a town has been rather severally destroyed in our concern is in fact you see that a lot of system have been destroyed in libya our concern is about water system it's a country if the water system is this or is problematic it's also about energy system no they have always we know that but if the system is destroyed that's problematic and then as we discussed before health system i would be concerned if you saw in tripoli when tripoli fall we see that there was a lot of one the people not treated any more lack of doctors lack of nurses but also a lack of access to prison and that's maybe one of my major concern and we see that not only by the way in syria we see that also in afghanistan where access to hospital is more and more difficult and it's important for us to make sure that access to under the hospitals to fair treatment is absolutely ensured in media we need to be very careful that it's an intern will you talk about access actually the
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red cross spokesman mr steven anderson says i quote with the team found the hospital in suit was overwhelmed with wounded people so what are the medics from from the red cross from the from from from the libyan red crescent allowed to to to get access to get adequate medical help we were we were allowed to get access and we are with you in sirte at that very moment it was during two days in fact the bombing in the shelling was so difficult that we are asked to go in the hospital and then to withdraw because it was too dangerous and i didn't want them to be exposed you know. and in to take too much risk but very clearly some of our colleagues on the need in red crescent were able to work in india and hospital and then we were able to to do a difference and the hospital. changed routes to serve you could change the location syria is a red cross able to provide help to the to victims of violence in that country in
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syria and syria it's a very difficult situation it's a complex situation we are the i.c.r.c. we gots the access in fact to the to the country so we are able to work in a country where we want to work we negotiate to have access also in prison as you know for us in prison it's very borderline prison this is where you have a lot of vulnerability and that's where people sometimes are faced with a very difficult situation and here i must recognize it's still difficult we've been able to visit one major prison in damascus we are willing to visit more prison and it's a it's and i'm really looking forward to get the green line now from the government to be able to really work where we want to work in in the country yemen is another place where we see a situation ready to go out of control or actually actually it's developing into a full fledged military conflict does it worry you does it worry the red cross so getting ready to to get fully the world in europe we are worried about yemen for europe's i'm sorry to say the answer we perceive yemen or in a very difficult situation can treat almost cut in three and there is
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a different dynamic and it's true there is a lot of concern in the country now it's very worrying to see that even santa the capital of the country is now completely are torn apart by by the tensions there and yes we do think in terms of the humanitarian consequences yemen is in mind to be one of the worst country over over the coming months it's absolutely we're ready but i'm honest with you you never really ready to to face a conflict we have to have a lot of their people are well trained they can do the difference but on the same time soon even older the scale of the conflict and you have to be uncle about. about what might have a good rule do our best and we are ready and our team is in sun our inside out in ad and being able to want to do the difference here if i'm not mistaken as a journalist they feel that the worst the worst humanitarian situation the that we ever witnessed and these in my lifetime was the situation around well if that's true do you think that we can see something similar to what happened in rwanda that
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in the twenty first century were the personal community can start things like that does have the leverage to stop. i'm share of the no on one side on my side would say never ever again but i thought before ninety four that we would never seen what we saw in general in wonder when i saw what happened in rwanda i was so shocked so surprised i work at my calling the world now but my colleagues were there you know trying to treat people in the midst of the genocide now let's hope and i do think the world is changing and i think maybe what is changing news is you and maybe not as a journalist and me are being interviewed i mean people who are outside looking at us they have not go by phone there is internet i think what we seen in the middle east for example the fastness with which image goals fly and influence people maybe maybe guess what will make a difference and put so much pressure on all of us to go faster and to intervene
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that we won't see you wonder i mean it's interesting that you mentioned the exchange of images will the public display our detainees in mortal remains that was committed where the new government. in different countries of the libya for example and it triggered a great deal of reaction and debate so what does the red cross think about these issues in general what we say is it's very it's very basic we like sometimes to come back to basic you know in conflicts always useful to remember that what we're seeing is when somebody is arrested when somebody is a control under the control of people these people should respect the person that's it that it was about the tensions it's about of the wounded and that's what we expect very clearly that people are respected whatever their rank whatever their responsibility that's very important of their respective. following the liberation of this israeli soldier of the young girl the international committee of the red
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cross cross said that the bloke aid of guns that violates the geneva convention which bans collective punishment of a civilian population that was a quote so was the clip. actually the official justification of the bloke a do you get any signs any any response from israel which would which will tell us that the blockade maybe lives in that we never ask ourself why there is a blockage right i mean we can have different point of view if the blockade is for this reason or this one what we see is the humanitarian consequences of a blockade and if this blockade and months to i would say what we call quality addition where an entire population doesn't in a way have the right to live as they said yes we do consider absolutely if the geneva convention apply and in this case the geneva convention but yes we do actually consider is of your violation of of the geneva convention what we do we don't speak only about about that in the media what we do is we discuss that with
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the israeli but also with the palace you know authorities every day we discuss that in a must with hamas also everyday in terms of their responsibility of the whole works in order to make sure that people can have access again to health to water to basic basic needs well are of course will not be heard whose responsibility is on me and her master of the israeli work if you can tell me why on whose side do you think the boy is today who is more able i mean israel or the pro students to to get it moving and i mean the dialogue the overcoming problems in the region i was at the ball is everywhere that's maybe the problem there is not one ball right i think that we have said although we. have several not of that's true and i think the question is not my senses when you see the reason you see a country or different country being blocked my hope was that the international community would be able and smart enough to bring these people together and trying
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to find solutions right here i'm talking almost as a citizen you know citizen of the world if i may say i hope we find solutions for palestine and palestine and israel problems in. if we don't i think we should watch out carefully what will happen over the next month says with syria with lebanon coming up possibly and with palestine i think we will be we again i.c.c. be confronted to have to deal with humanitarian consequences and i really i'm a i must say i'm not very optimistic if there is no real solution be found in the coming months now on the other hand maybe when the tension is very high then you sue some gesture i thought that the exchange of prisoners was a good humanitarian news let's hope it's not the only one but now let's talk about . the problem in africa which is found and there are a self witnessed witness from an ethiopian now but i think so male somalia is facing a similar problem wolf least event lou and they the expert with the personal committee
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of the red cross in somalia he said we want to feed one billion people by the end of the year feeling only million people by the end of the year means a major problem so so is it really so it is bad yes because you really have to look at not only somalia you have to look at all of africa you mentioned it oakland but you have if you look at all garden so money and possibly part of kenya we all know this is a region under enormous pressure to pressure or three pressure if you want to do one of these you're going to twenty years of sincere and mean yes exactly you have one conflict looks at somalia in twenty five years of love of a very very intense conflict almost virtually no state nor service and most importantly how you have drought you had also flood again last but not least don't forget economic crisis and we all feel the economy crisis but the one really feel it are the people who have to pay everybody their price of the food in the end the price of the food are going up there so yes it's a very serious people crisis and the most serious crisis is really in somalia
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absolutely yes we are just getting you know one million it's serious and it's complex we can do it we have the absolutely the means to do it the problem is it we need to sustain this aid over time that's the problem of somalia and we hope this. aid also will help them just to manage a little bit and you know me to long term yeah that's that's really not the problem ok well the message here for this interview depends how you change your looks in just a reminder that my guest today was either contact them directly general of the international committee of their work and that's it for now from all of us if you want to have your sales pipeline drop me a line out there in the path you need dot are you and let's keep the show interactive spotlight will be back with more from the comments on the what's going on in japan out fed russia pull then stay on party and take. their seats thank you that's good measure.
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