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it's a free. for your media project a free media. i'm same sex in perth tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture two months ago the occupy wall street movement started and today a movement reminded everyone everywhere around the country just how organized and disciplined it is completely top of the day's events as they are happening in just a moment plus scott walker's days as governor could be numbered but not if republicans in the badger state have their say what the latest on the scott walker recall effort later in the show.
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you need to know this happy birthday occupy wall street today officially marks two months since the ninety nine percent movement kicked off in lower manhattan zuccotti park and despite mayor bloomberg as midnight raid on the part two days ago the movement is stronger than ever just look at what's happening across america today this was the scene in new york city where thousands took to the streets to literally occupy wall street they were met as usual by n.y.p.d. cops in riot gear upwards of two hundred people were arrested for engaging in civil disobedience and there were more widespread reports of police brutality and injured protesters. and this was the scene in los angeles where thousands of people met at a local bank of america and march through downtown l.a. shutting down traffic mass arrests reported there too and this is what happened in
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the nation's capital today it's time to shut down traffic and march through the city so needless to say it's been quite a birthday for occupy wall street good me first to recap what she saw in the streets of new york city is lucy capping off a senior t.v. news producer with r.t. america lucy welcome i am sure you know doing well is how you doing. good we actually just reached the brooklyn bridge to get behind me to. the predators right mark. like you were and how liberating i'll get around i don't know how to. eat. so what's what's the police presence there like what's what's kind of the mood there is is a tense what's what do you expect happening in the next few minutes or hours. we are. here right now. i just after what we have seen
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yet you have to. register and i think you know for me. i didn't know what i intended for my meeting and i proposed and there are differences you think i am. sure you right there it is winking. at. me i asked and what do you. really really really expect that i mean we. were going to read it for three more. like. pushed out of the way would be to provide a particular order and i have to go. after much but you know there are reporters and he felt really good for her country that. if you write in the pump. fusion and it's heartening to see how difficult it is to. write your own that part yeah certainly interest just about the minute we have left i know there are
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probably a lot a lot of questions about how successful this day of action against mostly new york city after zuccotti park was just raided. to the movement make a lot of statement today is this been a complete success or what was the turnout like everything like that and i think the impact it really did and i think if you step back to that strength. i think it's great to carry park new york i'm sorry so many people remain. turned out and turn out i mean right now. we partner with you to get in for a park alone and for the fact that. members that don't need campaign by the. police are on the program not going away i need to. know where they're going to actually build a playoff but i remain. everything right many people can turn out with a at
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a plate with a student i think it's the phenomenon of the people of the country part that we. could point well said in keep up the great porting lucy and stay safe tonight thank you thanks that was lucy tough enough now for more on what happened today and what happens now that occupy wall street is two months old i want to welcome from san francisco joshua holland senior writer and editor at alter net and from new york and elitist miller freelance writer and also a contributor to alter net and joshua welcome. and i want to start with you you were on our show tuesday right after the raid and you were on with jay meyerson . and i understand he was arrested today is that right. yes that is that is correct. what happened j j he participated in the act of civil disobedience he was sitting in the street while we were occupying a new york stock exchange while we were having to surround the surrounding areas
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really filling the streets and the police were being very violent and brutal with pushing us physically out of the streets and on to the sidewalk and a few people are today included chose to sit in the street in an active nonviolent disobedience using their bodies as part of the movement and he was arrested along with several other people for doing that very early on in the morning i believe the exact time was nine fifteen. i don't know if you just heard i was talking with lucy and she kind of went over her take of the events of today i'm assuming you've been out and about on the streets today what's what your overall feeling of of today's day of action in new york city. oh it was just all over the place the beginning the morning was so hopeful there were so many people that turned out at seven in the morning and i was here on september seventeenth the very first day where anyone that actually turned out was a little bit crazy and just just the fact that so many people turned out so early
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even earlier than the first day and worse had so much faith in the movement today just showed so much so it really began with that level of faith and everyone filled the streets and there was a lot of jubal as there was music there is dad saying even though the police were all over the place being completely intimidating completely violent in several instances with arrests it really didn't get anyone's out and i and i point some moves sort of died down a little bit and then and then i would say the next huge event that happened was people took the square back and were able to fill zuccotti park liberty plaza once again and i around one thirty one of the protesters kicks the barricades and the police just just send it on every time they came into the park which previously had been a completely safe space free of police were doing assaults read arrests etc it was
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really really old address who is saying i want to bring george first a kind of from from california here we saw a lot of action in los angeles that your your reporting research is really done some great reporting on what's been going on in oakland would switch latest in oakland right now. well in oakland they had planned to have their day of action this coming saturday the nineteenth so there have been few kind of solidarity actions today they're stating that out and they intend to try to reoccupy a different space they've of course been. from the plaza in front of city hall and they're going to establish a new camp or try to establish a new camp on saturday as part of a major day protest there is a labor rally scheduled for saturday a number of local unions are involved it should be a pretty big day out here on saturday. on the issue of police cracked as we've seen a lot of them today you have a piece up on alternate right now alternate. talking with mayor kwan from oakland
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talked about how she was on a conference call with eighteen mayors there are a lot of people discussing the possibility that maybe mayors around the country recording in an effort to crack down nationwide on the occupy wall street movement . what do you say to that. theory yes i think that it should be expected for you know city officials to talk to each other to consult with one another it's it's a little different the some of the speculation has been that the federal government coordinating or directing cities to crack down on occupations across the country i don't see a lot of evidence for that that would actually be a very significant and disturbing story because of course with the exception of a few federal crimes law enforcement is a local matter i think that there have been some reports that the department of homeland security and perhaps the f.b.i. is providing it face to cities but the ultimate decision is being made city by
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city by local officials as far as i can discern and that's a very different kind of proposition than what a lot of speculation is is about ok well we'll keep tabs on the draw for some great reporting and i wish we had more time to talk more about it or new york new york but we've got to move on stay safe out there and keep up the good work occupying the city. thanks just over two months ago and his weekly radio program mayor bloomberg said something that's particularly poignant today referring to the high rate of youth unemployment around the country bloomberg said quote you have a lot of kids graduating college who can't find jobs that's what happened in cairo that's what happened in madrid you don't want those kind of riots here. on the very next day just one day after bloomberg said that on september seventeenth people started occupying zuccotti park and the occupy wall street movement officially
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started and we all know what's happened in america in the two months since then culminating in bloomberg triggering his own riot when here because zuccotti park two days ago but despite all the police crackdowns all the ridicule from the corporate media all the time stuff hijacked the movement occupy wall street isn't going anywhere and mayor bloomberg knows this his crackdown didn't work today two months after he warned against arab spring riots coming to america america struck a different tone speaking to a roomful of business leaders bloomberg said quote we're coming to a point where occupy wall street is just the beginning the public is getting scared they don't know what to do and they're going to strike out and they don't know where well today they struck out in new york city and in los angeles and in portland and in boston and in washington d.c. as the chant goes occupy america occupy everywhere. but next the recall scott walker campaign is in full swing in wisconsin so what are republicans up to
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in the badger state to keep their hero or being picked out of office by the people and. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global mission we see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.
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who's screwed the voters in wisconsin on tuesday the governor scott walker recall effort officially kicked off and so too did the republican plot to sabotage the governor scott walker recall effort first leading up to tuesday self identified conservatives brad miller bragged on line about plans to pose is recall canvassers collect tens of thousands of signatures and then burn the petitions right after that by the way is a felony then on tuesday the first day of the recall campaign there was a cyber attack against the united wisconsin website the group that is spearheading the recall effort then republicans in the state legislator legislature maneuvered
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this week to make it harder for college students to vote in upcoming elections college students to send a vote liberal and now there's this wisconsin lieutenant governor rebecca kleefisch who might face a recall or self coded ad recently urging voters to please consider the costs of a recall election and the ad kleefisch says quote there may be a day when someone asks you for a signature signing a recall petition is like saying you're ok with spending seven point seven million dollars on another recall election seven point seven million that may already be allocated to merit raises for teachers or health care for the poor or school books for your kids. please just think about the kids what kleefisch fails to mention is that scott walker doesn't give a damn about the kids he signed a budget this year that already cut one point eight five billion not million good
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billion dollars out of his state's education budget doctors cuts education this year are two hundred and forty times more expensive than any recall election and when it comes to health care for the poor that kleefisch suddenly seems to care so much about the walker budget signed this year also cuts five hundred billion dollars out of medicaid so that seven point seven million dollars price tag on a recall election is pocket change compared to the money that could be sucked out of wisconsin's education and health care budgets if walker stays in office a few more years. but despite all of these underhanded tactics the recall effort continues for the latest on it i'm joined by tony is someone a reporter and blogger with think progress i hope i didn't push here last night not just time well it's good it's good to have you on tony so about these these efforts by republicans to stop the recall and yes yeah yeah so first
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on the on the day that the recall started in the united wisconsin website when i got right was subject to a.t.o.s. attack so all service was kept on the watch that right when it was launched and the democratic party called on walker and called on the republican party to condemn the attacks if they wanted a fair recall election in a fair election process they asked that at least walker and anybody else subject to a recall that condemned the attack and you know it's not a fair way to play was there any condemnation not that i've heard as of yet of course not. who knows who did it but i will say. this now there's this effort now we've seen these voter id laws or you know all around the country that are forcing people to obtain some sort of i.d. if they don't if they don't have a driver's license or something in order to vote and most of the people who don't have a driver's license are elderly people minorities students people who tend to vote
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democratic. in particular was students what are what are republicans in wisconsin doing to make sure that it's even harder for students to vote sure well in wisconsin very few institutions universities and colleges comply with what the law required which was to have a certain amount of information where you're from things like that your birthday and so originally they were going to require the universities to reassure the i.d.'s which would have cost the university is like seven hundred thousand dollars or something like that so they're allowing to. universities to put stickers which will cost them money but a little bit of last however when a student goes to the polls they still have to prove on top of having that id they still have to prove that they go to the college it's not very clear exactly what they need to bring perhaps there are no registrar lists where you get there. yeah
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anything to prove that they are actually students but those are for a select few students if you go to a technical college in wisconsin originally you weren't allowed to have an id a student use your student i.d. they just made those people second class citizens your id does not count so they would have to go to there it is there and there are cost to that or is there a whole imagine there because the individual and you know some democrats have been saying by forcing somebody to pay to vote that's tantamount to a poll tax however states government accountability board has decided that that was a mistake and they decided to interpret the law now to allow technical student technical college students to use their i.d. to vote but it was going of course while wisconsin republican lawmakers weren't too thrilled with that interpretation so they've asked the g. eight b. to make that a formal rule and by making it a formal rule governor walker can overturn it it's one thing well.
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even more power for walker to make sure that he doesn't get recalled here. speaking of the people who support walker and want to make sure nobody gets recall we sold tons of secret corporate cash flow to the senate recall elections or a few months ago. it looked it looked like early on the democrats might succeed and unseat three republican senators and take it over i mean early polls showed that but one i think was something like forty million dollars in cash was dumped in. election democrats just barely missed out on claiming on thursday they got two which was a pretty good victory but they missed the third one. or should we expect the same sort of time and probably twice that much and yeah this is this is the head of the state now and you know it's an executive it's these aren't lawmakers these aren't people in the legislature this is a had he's been representative of a lot of what the g.o.p.
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as a national party is trying to attain in states across the country so to lose him is quite a referendum on what they've been trying to achieve in a lot of other states so i imagine that there's going to be quite a bit of money pouring into you know kind of back that momentum sort of and he might get an actual phone call from the koch brothers this thing. maybe one that we're going to hear today. so despite all the pathology efforts and all this corporate money there is some good news i mean last week oh i oh just repealed. right which restricted collective bargaining rights for public workers and that's pretty much the main reason why scott walker is being recalled now is because he passed a law just like that did you think there is this energy in the country right now that's going to carry this recall effort forward to unseat walker and if so what cannot cannot be carried all the way over to the two thousand and twelve elections it is a long period of time and it. was an identifiable issue scott walker is
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a elected official who has a lot of issues that he can cover that he can try to. convince the public you know i might have been terrible on this but i'm really great on this and that and that's makes it a little bit more tough but you know walker has been pretty terrible on a lot of things so it's going to be difficult for him to say with all this momentum for people who are fighting for workers' rights we're fighting for voters' rights these are very basic things this isn't have to do with the economy margin number of jobs these are going they're attacking the fundamentals like american liberties so i think that. if if those activists who are looking to recall. governor walker really wanted to do that they just have to really listen and be very clear about everything he's done which is a lot and if you if you can be very clear about that i think they can carry the mantle there well let's let's hope let's hope that happens and we'll keep watching that thanks for coming on to the hero to make it with your reporting thank you.
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governor scott walker sealed his fate earlier this year when he went after labor unions instead of attacking them walker and the rest of us should be thanking labor unions because most of the stuff we take for granted today was workplace safety regulations the minimum wage the forty hour work week although all that cool stuff were brought to us by labor unions tom recently had this to say in the issue. we should all take a moment to think about the important role labor unions have played in shaping america and say thank you. the unions have brought us a number of substantial changes and toward the end of the show i want to tell you about some of the well we're going to talk about a guy who just recently committed suicide because of a conservative show is frankly a little pissed off that the unions have ended child labor we had it it was organized labor put into child labor this it was organized labor that created eight hour work day and overtime it was organized labor was unions it created workman's
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comp it was union and by the way these union members fought and died going right back to the middle of the of the nineteenth century i mean literally the nineteenth century not actually even into the late eighteenth century abraham lincoln was the first president to actually use the word strike prior to lincoln's presidency it was always in quotes in newspapers they use the word strike lincoln president lincoln said labor is superior to capital because it pretty seeds capital in other words you have no wealth until somebody makes something. organized labor brought us a minimum wage organized labor said you know people shouldn't have to die in the workplace we should have laws that will that will guarantee workplace safety and in fact that. fascist government governor excuse me in in wisconsin who wants who wants to bust the unions wants to do it in part over the issue of
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workplace safety i mean that's one of the major issues that the republican excuse me i called him a fish to mix the words of those. workplace safety pensions whether or not you should have any security in your old age. this is i just find this astounding i grew up in a world now you know my dad worked for forty years at two and i shop when he when he retired he had a pension literally until the day he died in fact my mother had to have continued their pension until she died. that used to be the majority of americans that used to be the story of most working people in this country but you could be in the case of my father you could raise four kids you could be could put them through school you could own a house a car and have a decent middle class life work in a tool and die shop no longer now you've got conservatives say hey who the hell do you think that you are the you should have any right to join a union. health insurance health insurance in the workplace came about as
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a result of people sitting down in flint nine hundred thirty five and striking it came about as a result of people standing in front of police and getting shot at go back to hay markets where you go back to the pullman porter health insurance the civil rights act the family medical leave act all of these programs all of these advances all of the really significant substantial you want to you want to know why you have a forty hour week in units that unions instead of a sixty or seventy hour weeks you know before there were unions there were actually states that had maximum wage laws this is something that was inherited from england in the u.k. it was a way of preventing a middle class from emerging you couldn't pay people over a certain amount because they wanted to keep the working poor. unions flip that upside down said no no we're going to have a minimum wage. when you look around. at what's left of the american middle class say thank you to our units.
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rick perry is learning that rejection hurts at any age so apparently perry sent a letter to house minority leader nancy pelosi challenging her to a debate next monday when he'll be in d.c. yes the man who is setting new records for debate calf's wants to wants to debate one of the most seasoned members of congress and public what could possibly go wrong right well a posi couldn't let this opportunity to remind perry that a public debate may not be in the best interest passed her by and took to twitter with this response decline to his debate invitation governor perry monday i'll be in portland later visiting labs in california that's two i can't remember the third thing it's just the gift that keeps on giving and his letter perry had suggested alternate dates for the debate of pelosi wasn't available next week but he may just want to let it go as he himself said. he's done poorly in almost every single
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debate so it's tough to overcome the subtext for his candidacy. irresponsible well if we're electing a debater in chief don't elect me and so why on earth would rick perry want to give the baby another go and if you related stories george w. bush wants to give his economic policies another try him hard as she wants to give marriage another shot and bill buckner wants to play first base for the red sox again some people never learn. next we know teacher you teachers' unions are under attack but teachers themselves are too i'll tell you a corporate interests are trying to make sure that students in the future are taught not by actual humans but instead by digital avatars.
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let's not forget that we had an apartheid museum right here. i think. even funny well. we have the government says they're very safe to graduate because of the freedom. it also measures the a story and it seems so for lack of sleep you think you
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understand it and then he glimpse something else and you hear sees some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. for.


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