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a former cia agent were featured prominently in the indictment and why the government believes it had the right to snoop through these e-mails as part of their probe seems kind of obvious we've had marcy wheeler on the show to discuss the case the only criminal investigation involving the bush administration's torture problem ironically and so here is what she had to say about the investigation. this all started because these detainee lawyers had identified the people who had tortured their crimes. so the question is not easy to ok for scott shane to report about to start eunice who was involved in chaos and torture what they were really after was is it ok for lawyers to know what happened to their clients when they were in u.s. custody and the government is basically saying no it's not ok they went back and tried to figure out how these detainee lawyers found out and ultimately curious who is the one source that they came up with. so basically the justice department
wanted to find out how this information about enhanced interrogators was leaked and their inquiry led them to these journalists e-mails yesterday politico's josh gerstein a reporter that the other journalists referenced in the indictment are believed to be former a.b.c. investigative journalist matt cole and current a.b.c. investigative journalist richard esposito but that's not what set the twitter sphere of fire the hulking two ton pink elephant remains in the room just how did the government obtain these e-mails and how many they obtained how one scenario can be counted out straight away we can assume that the government did not obtain the e-mails from cole esposito or shane because that move would have been ferociously contended by the reporters after all were government prosecutors want to know who leaked valerie plame the identity to the press new york times reporter judith miller refused to appear in court was held in contempt and spent time in jail and ongoing case of another alleged cia leak or jeffrey sterling york times reporter james risin seen here has been told by the court that he does not have to reveal
his sources and that's a decision that the obama administration is appealing so the point is revealing sources can be a career ending move for journalists and sources are often legally protected furthermore we know that's not the case here we spoke to the justice department today and they told us that the e-mails were obtained through search warrants granted by a federal judge and they did not directly name the journalists but the d.o.j. spokesperson did not say who federal gas or gators were authorized to search only that additional information will be. revealed as the trial progresses let's engage in some informed speculation shall we one possible scenario is rather straightforward kiriakou his e-mails were searched he had to turn them over and exchanges between himself and the three journalists turned up another plausible course of action is that a court required get no difference lawyers to turn over those e-mails as marcy wheeler pointed out they were at the heart of the curiosity case and while that's disturbing enough there is yet another scenario that is the most draconian of them all as we've seen before the government doesn't even need
a search warrants or the involvement of parties directly implicated in cases to obtain information take a look. what it means though is that if you ever do anything that the government decides that they find interesting they can get it they can get it by using the services provided by free company provided for free by companies like google facebook twitter that are really only saving this information by default we're sort of leaving this digital data trail behind and so when the government decides to offer the thought you know they think you've got something interesting or they think you've spoken to a whistleblower they just call the companies for the information and suddenly they know who the whistleblower is without ever forcing you to reveal it. yeah that's right the government can say information online from e-mail services internet service providers and social networks like twitter now we've seen that before in the wiki leaks case website supporters only found out that the government subpoenaed twitter for information because twitter executives challenge the government's gag order in court so they could then tell those users of their information is being requested in this case it's unclear which companies if any
were ordered to hand over information who knows maybe there's a gag order involved here too but however the government attorneys e-mails and things definitely clear journalists are vulnerable these days with beds able to browse through their information without even informing them sources say nor are the journalists there all behind cases of whistleblowers being charged under the espionage act thomas drake jeffrey sterling my leibowitz steven kim and bradley manning so we journalists privacy compromised and the possibility of material support of terrorism charges a chilling effect of the n.d.a. added to the makes the first amendment seems a lot less sturdy and journalists those best suited to hold the government accountable might be might be spooked into silence so let's just hope that won't be the trend. now as our viewers know we've been following the case of jailed environmental activist him to christopher last month he was thrown in isolation after an anonymous congressperson complained about a letter that he had sent to his after his network and well the christopher has since been released from isolation we want to know which congressperson overstep
boundaries and secretly discuss this case with the bureau of prisons that we want to relay that information. could you say get in touch with your representative ask if they reached out to the bureau of prisons about to christopher and if so what do they say then email us the results t.a.'s producer at g. mail dot com for more information about the christopher you can also check out our facebook page or the website of the activist group cofounded peaceful uprising or. all the cold space programs across the world used to be to put a man on the moon time change the challenge now is to put a man on the moon and keep him there russia nasa are now working to do just that they're in talks to build that manned research colonies on the moon in the next decade artie's tom barton reports. to put a man on the move to keep him there that's the aim for space exploration in the coming decade according to a plan unveiled by moscow's academy of sciences' choice was billed as the words of
mankind cannot stay where it is now for a long time we have been successful in exploring near earth's case it's time to move beyond politics the goal is to put on man. by two thousand and twenty with landing stations as dabblers by twenty twenty two which will start the process of building a permanent manned base their own on the minute the moon is that all well say scientists we actually know surprisingly little about our closest cosmic neighbor and the consensus is we should try and prove our skills and science as close as possible to home before attempting any bigger leaps vast quantities of frozen water we discovered under the moon's surface taken there by billions of years worth of polygynous with asteroids and water might not be all we find if we look carefully organic samples may have been preserved in comets in a frozen state it's impossible to investigate them from afar so we should deliver
those samples back to or in the control rooms there have been serious questions about whether we can technically manage a moon base the past year has seen a catalog of errors to the supply rocket on its way to the international space station plunging back to earth and an unmanned mars exploration rocket falling from orbit we're still using technology from the decades of the space race from the fifties to the eighties scientists and new ships have been taking too long to arrive. until we get these new ships we will have problems also many of the people with the knowledge of the old models are no longer with us and the younger generation doesn't have that knowledge so for now sticking with the moon might be. just enough with some tentative miles missions planned as well as the world remembers the pioneers who made it up to space in the first place those in charge of coast with exploration want to stop marking the breakthroughs of full cost and
start making some of their own some bucks and obsolete. are we taking a quick breather but after the break we'll have our tour final ward and this time it's going all the way to the top or the white house has has now learned to rein in the use of executive power and happy hour my guess and i'll have a collective freak out about facebook pervy elaine has run her past winter night out and we come back. to mission. critical three. four judges three. arrangement three. three. three. three blog video for your media project free media john darche talk calm.
all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're handing it to the commander in chief it's the president obama and his administration have been meeting with the activists working on a way to ensure the federal contractor employees will not face discrimination in the workplace based on their sexual orientation and seeing how difficult or it's been difficult to pass other l.g.b. t. bills and agreements the activists were hoping that an executive order would guarantee that they will be protected in the workplace now if you're a fan of the show you know that obama has had absolutely no problem exercising his executive powers in the past and apparently the administration decided against that order this time saying we do not expect that executive order on elegy
nondiscrimination for federal contractors will be issued at this time we support legislation that has been introduced and we will continue to work with congressional sponsors to build support for it so what they're saying is that they're not opposed to supporting gay rights but they want to do with the old fashioned way getting approval from congress before moving forward and i mean normally that would make sense i might even applaud it at least give us some respect but then when it comes to the obama administration i'm just a little bit confused like i said before this president is all about flexing his executive muscles when it comes to financial political specially foreign policy issues take libya for example here when obama went on t.v. to explain the threat of massacres in gazi and now he wants to do something to prevent that from happening it was not in our national interest to look let that happen i refused to let that happen and so nine days ago after consulting the bipartisan leadership of congress i authorized
military action to stop the killing and enforce u.n. security council resolution one hundred seventy three. now if you notice he says that he consulted with congress but let's be clear here telling congressional leaders that you're about to engage the u.s. in a war it's quite a different thing than getting their approval you know the old fashioned way with a vote and if you look at the white house website you will see executive order one three five six six about blocking property in prohibiting certain transactions relating to libya now the topic of foreign policy how can we also forget about the case of anwar lockheed or when obama made a really proud announcement about taking out this american citizen without due process earlier this morning. a lucky leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula was killed in yemen the day. thank you this. is
a major blow to al qaeda as most active operational affiliate the death of a walking. now what he didn't say was how executive order to kill a lot he was also a major blow to the judicial process of the constitution of the growth abuse of executive authority and as i've said many times made himself the judge the jury and executioner eric holder tried to come out with a defense addressing the issue indirectly during an un televised speech at northwestern university and their holder explained the u.s. government have the right to take out all locky without getting approval from a federal court because due process and judicial process are different specially when referring to national security i would just love to hear eric holder told that to the founders but obama doesn't just like the executive power in the foreign policy and national security realm he said no problem is from domestic executive orders as well and fact he openly talks about overriding congress to create a bipartisan fiscal commission during his twenty ten state of union speech the cost
of medicare medicaid and social security will continue to skyrocket. that's what was called for a bipartisan fiscal commission modeled on a proposal by republican judd gregg and democratic incumbent. yesterday the sort of water bill that would have created this commission sole issue an executive order that will allow us to go forward because i refuse to pass this problem on to another generation of remote. obama knows best people now look we can keep rattling off examples but i think we get the point the president has had no problem flexing his executive muscles but for some reason when faced with an order to ensure the elegy one thousand federal employees are treated as equals they decided draw some sort of line in the sand what gives killing an american citizen with no due process bringing the u.s. into a war those warrant executive power but they'll leave this issue to be dealt with in congress i call b.s. inconsistency is never becoming and if the obama administration wants to use
executive powers at least use them equally don't hide behind some notion of executive restraint that everybody knows you don't actually believe it and so for that we're giving the obama administration really the president himself since he's the executive the issues the orders tonight still time to work. ok guys time for happy hour and join me this evening our team producer jenny churchill and kevin glass managing editor at townhall thank you guys thanks very much for joining me first or trying to switch of the order i mean or. let's talk about iraq rails obviously the big story has been that there was a gawker a mole working within fox news they fired him they found it that's all said and done it but listen to what roger ailes had to say about dr. what is the
good for a group. that it's a sort of court which. told. me that is a website that everybody should really have steroids. i am not kidding i honestly just doesn't know what. the right way to get your pulse on the news world all of you honestly doesn't fox news is obviously not in the business of punching down you know they're competing with c.n.n. they're competing with n.b.c. nightly news except roger ailes not concern himself to think if he's loathe. to find out he doesn't consider himself this is a lowly publication that on a regular basis has broken stories about fox news they broke the story about o'reilly and that whole cost bragging to pocket so i didn't really should never have gone out that's honestly small potatoes compared to you know what the regular
news cycle goes through that's a little bit of you know gotcha journalism that we like to talk about and we think is important but you know the biggest thing that i can think of the media's broken was when they found an i phone in a bar somewhere and it was the new i phone for roger ailes sense and good stuff when it comes to for your requests. and we've done interviews with some of the people there that have done investigative work but still you think there is that if there is the biggest story right now is that somebody from another news organization is a mole in your news organization you probably would at least want to know what that news organization is especially if you want to talk about liberal media bias now they're taken over i think you can get the impression from that clip that he knew there was that he was even aware that some was out there dialing stories from him i did not but i mean you know we live in this weird little obsessive hole where no one else actually cares we definitely go because i have to say and else defense when i moved here i don't know unconquerable i never read any type of gossipy type magazines any of those things and i had no idea what cocker was and it was. well
that's your coverage does sound kind of risking if you think about it talking girls probably knows what it's just if you're going for a girl so you know you said ok but. the way things really work in life is if someone tells you not to do something or not to look at something what do you do you go do it or try are you go look at it so somebody said roger going to don't go to the pornographic web site called gawker there's really no dirty stuff on there i'm going to bet that roger ailes went to gawker to see what was all about the bigger question is roger ailes friends that they're like oh dear friend don't visit this graphic shield you know. i think we've killed the guy for. their. ok. next story is. facebook facebook facebook you know they've had a lot of privacy issues in the past and we call them out for it all the time and and they're actually trying to do something new in this whole era of transparency.
it's been one issue after another with those guys over the years to do with privacy the most recent involves your telephone number being handed over to developers of third party applications you may choose to use on facebook so last friday facebook last friday evening i should say baseball gave active elaters access to your phone number and address if you decided to use an app on facebook. but some of the shady stuff because democrats now are trying to do you is a little more transparency so they've expanded this recall download your data. basically you get a copy of what you shared on facebook in the past you could get a copy of your list of friends photos all post messages now you get all of your former user names email addresses even all of your old friend requests so you can go back and see what every request denied you. i don't want to call you out but i
wonder what happens to all the people that are in your weird request box right now . i do have. other people well that's why somebody should try it out then print it and maybe there isn't that there is though a limbo feature i think obviously that facebook is trying to do right by people who are always waiting for them to release more data let us know what they're doing with our information that goes online and for the most part it's not something that i'm too concerned about most of the apps that can access or do you know there's a big box when you use the offices are you going to allow this to access your data well enough like ok allow those apps the issue was that it was letting the people who click yes it was giving access to information about their friends that was the problem i think there's been a bunch of a bunch of glitches essentially is what has happened to you with a lot of these things in terms of apps where then later they get to claim we didn't
know but then all of your information you know and. getting handed out what about the facial recognition features you know they keep introducing new things and then trying to have to walk back i didn't actually have to opt out or in a certain setting in this case so i really do think it's kind of one of those things where they're just letting you see all the people you sent requests to and if you're psychotic and crazy you can then go print out who your friends are and cross-reference the lists to find out things i don't know real friends are going to their house where we're going to be turning this thing out i haven't seen that in a good rule of thumb is don't use facebook if you don't want your information to be sold to people you know don't put things online that you don't want to be found how do we live without it i don't. know when you have a search should do if they should facebook should be really honest about their policies though you can't just say oh well they just. you know bad on you if facebook is to be honest about who they're actually giving this information to. you know the onus is on them they should be honest with their users.
we're going to my soapbox now. basically ok so there's all kinds of cool new little technology that we talk about all the time that we find really creepy things you can say are turning into a big brother security type state including scanners. it's really allows to identify is a pretty high degree of security every individual passengers but on top of that there is simplicity all of us and you need to do is just step into the space look at the camera. now tell you go do these days step in and get. your password has a certain i.d. no biggie right. turns out of the cia is actually running into a little bit of trouble because you know this stuff is designed to catch terrorists and criminals but by travel under false identities or secretly having some stuff
kind of ironic isn't it usually when there's some new form of id recognition software the government wants to get their hands on it and they want to implement it in you know before anyone else so you know you hear the things about the biometric id cards that are implanted with your genetic d.n.a. you have ira scanners that are already operated operating in a bunch of airports around the world and now they're just trying to expand to land border crossings and places like that they didn't think it would come back and yet they're really concerned because what happens is if you have to go into a country and these ira scanners you use that's their identity that's the only one they get for ever before it was like you know pick an identity yeah i mean it helps the defending the country though from spies you know if we send some guy under a secret identity over to china and he's trying to gather information on the chinese government the chinese are going to be better at identifying that so it improves defense in that way and you know it's going to improve the united states
is defense which is going to piss off the cia when it comes to their often thought and it's going to mean the end of the james bond movies which is really depressing if you can save on somehow always manages to be ahead of the gave many crazy technology that you would never think of james bond's been going down hill for a couple movies now i consider the james bond movie series ended a couple years. i think it was. they get the sack though and the want to baghdad and calls look at that it's us and you know just agreeing or can i say i wanted to sort of i love pierce brosnan or i love you like a softy this is the saw that was a dying and being above it's hot it's already again that's what it should be anyway thanks for joining me tonight about it when i show it thank you for giving it as nation come back from our floor in the service of the capital account to give ya our weekly financial check up and i mean time don't forget become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of our shows tonight or any other night you can always catch falling into the clash