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joined by a guest from a secret location and living on he is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. is for many battles with israel and is now a court up to the international struggle over syria i want to know why is he called a freedom fighter by millions and at the same time a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel living on board his party his below is a member of the live in his government sees its leader saeed and now it's really. how you are ready. i'm ready. to answer. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what his
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book consider victory if you had victory when you disarm. go with it so easy at this stage of history and it's not that it is an illegal state it's a state that was this elaborate on the basis of occupying the land so does a lot of usurping the lands of others as i love to watch thrown in by force their nonsense as much as that of committing massacres against about his opinions you experiment. and base including muslims and christians to believe that is so for the estranged from justice he is well known not just history remains remains of the work of the messiah when even after he has it all says i have no doubt that the progress of time there's no sense of justice and to know this not be making them all just as bad as if it's my how they feel about me for your house and i go no keep quiet nobody forces doesn't become either in fifty or one hundred us just because i'm stronger than you and i've yet to enable to occupy your hands that doesn't get me that doesn't legalise how i should be your house and these places
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are ideological if you and i mean both you and me and we need to empower the scientists belongs to the palestinian people that i would not imagine that if we wanted everyone to. combine the idealogy under the old and political realities and religious on the ground we should say that the only solution is we don't want to do when it came any one of them we tariff once again treat anyone on just a name that he wants justice to be restored to you. only solution is that astonishment took one to select the one states on the land of palestine and it was for magic missile defense under jews and the christians and even though he is in a democratic state. any other solution. will simply not being viable and in the west the state of israel says through it all i was fired brokers into israel law at subi we need a real this is the truth. it was. throughout the
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past. even since nine hundred forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine where israeli forces have been shelling civilians lebanese civilians in these towns and villages. for the weapon in this in the resistance here that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after ten years of resistance. that we started reacting. only and strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the one thousand nine hundred three there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance and israel and the understanding. of nine hundred ninety six and that understanding that. makes clear that both sides of always shelling civilians and we always used to say if you don't call it
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a shell of it it is then we have nothing to do with you as it is in your town so this message has a love result to it after the long years of aggression against lebanese civilians stop and aim. to make a kind of terror and balance to prevent israel from killing that he said. according to wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you said that you were shocked. about how corrupt his beloved members are all a lot of them because some of his blood members were driving around in s.u.v.s all of the issues he's wearing so gerbs. i do not how he has. going to take away from. the take away. is this a natural consequence of his beloved moving into electoral politics we've been
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living on. well given. what they said. about about this this phenomenon is not correct it was a this is part of the room. they want to see use to discredit his beloved distorted image this is in any way holding me apart through the media war against us and you know they talk about us they say. that we operate you know matthew your organization said that drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know religion and you know mirelle it's really this is absolutely one of the biggest fans that when something we fight against they say a lot of things that are baseless and i would one thing defense here first on this because thing is not correct. secondly on what they said recently what
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i say. it's just a very limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that. there are some you know british families which which were not which in the past were not supporting hezbollah or supporting it it's a law or its ideology or its program and you know after two thousand and one when the resistance in that phenomena has a lot of good has blossomed name propose a component of the resistance and they managed to liberate south lebanon on that was seen as a kind of miracle it created a great shock in lebanese society might cause. how quickly this small group like this just ran for thirty three days facing regime of the biggest the most powerful army in the region without being defeated when actually so there are groups inside syria that have not started considering themselves pro has been law or was the borders of hezbollah and they come from you know wealthy and i. have never
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lived consistent with their. well i have the financial capability so you know it's it's you know this is the case at this moment and move to his beloved if it's not true i say this pretty confident and with a good information i haven't been able to meet this is not really a clear nominee and that is everything relating. why have you supported the arab spring in museo yemen egypt and other countries. in syria. in the name of a clear view since well and first and then the originally first in principle we don't want to interfere in the interference of arab states that's always been up on the scene where we have been developments in the arab world have been it's very serious and very importantly to next time that nobody really new movement no party can just not take its position regarding. and.
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in syria everybody knows that this. mess is regime obama from his supporters on the resistance in lebanon supported the resistance in palestine. to snobs back down in the face of his radiant american pressure so this is a regime which serves the palestinian cause very well. what we call for in serious negotiations dialogue is there a format for what was going to be carried out because they all say mr that the no one cause of the twenty first century somebody was inside syria because of the sensitivity of the situation in syria and also that it still has they lead to civil war and this is exactly what america and israel want for syria so over the weekend over one hundred people the night of july homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it mary colvin i can understand your logic in saying that we should not just destroy a country for more than that and it is much better to reform
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a country if possible good because his book reclining national called if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed when his books say. there is a lot of. movement there from the beginning of the offense in syria we've had a conference constant concept very shortly after that and we spoke in this friends about them about treating each other advice about the importance of carrying out reform is a right from the beginning i personally found that president assad was very moving soon to carry out a radical important if i have this and this used to reassure us regarding the positions that we had when i saw them but more than one occasion publicly i used to give speeches and say this and say this and i and my and i'm in my meetings with various lebanese an arab and other political leaders and i say while them the same
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things that i am confident the president has that wants reform nothis and he will be ariadne forms mystic genuine but the opposition has to agree. i'll say most of this is the first time i start this we don't know but you have contacted even elements of the isolation which as you are to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the ratio of these parties get rejected by another good day and right from the beginning of the regime this is when interests that are to go reforms and prepare for dialogue no not the other side you have an operation which is not prepared for tell us that it is not it's not prepared to accept any reforms and it's all it once is not you must bring down the regime start up another thing major with use with what's happening in syria. as jimmy will have to know that it wasn't true lies not just with one eye. not the looking at the armed groups in syria you have children very many civilians. where
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do you see the syrian situation going. to stop the killing is your looks you have smokers about called gloria. want dialogue is very easy to talk about it all the practical measures for hand all that good bloodshed is carrying in syria. next. in the previous question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to this or this also the second the first dates to call for money or provide money the question whether it's which encourage fighting side syria and some of these arab countries american arab countries as well as from one side here there's a very serious. issue as well which is concern and we all heard him talk for a minute so welcoming. when he when he called for the fighting in syria. to arms and so there are so there are fighters from outside who are right in syria
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and others that are that are following them. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground. for countries that provide awareness and money you would be able to get the opposition groups in there supporting to sit down at a stable and but there is no thanks but i think i said just a few days ago that certain arab countries up with the it was the other attacks like this have tenure and trying to ensure the political dialogue with israel for tens of years not start this despite everything that is rooted in the region but they will be given one year or two years or a political or even just a few months for a political solution with syria and this just doesn't make any sense and it's unfair would you be willing to use a mediate between these opposition groups and the outside regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states or that are you have your yes but will they trust that you are not an agent over as the regime if they can be convinced.
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except through brokers the trees. but they're experienced of thirty years of hezbollah's life rooms now. it's just a friend of syria not an agent of syria. you know here there have been periods of lebanon's political. cheering which they say our relationship with syria took was not good we had problems even to train us there were problems between early then and now those who used to benefit from the political. influence of syria in lebanon they are now the ones who are on. the phone posing us whereas we used to be under pressure from syria that we are friends we're not agents by syria the very small segments of the syrian opposition know that and all the political forces in the region others that we are friends are. friends and that's a first vote and secondly when i say we support a political suppression of the can most certainly will be willing to take so any
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effort or any contribution to chief beck that's what i'm going to conservation the person i said some new help here we contacted some parties but they refused to get into a fine old with the regime to leave so any any group that wants i would rob a dialogue with the regime and would like us to be to be go betweens would be of more than happy to mediate on their behalf what we are asking others and yet to do is to make their efforts to move. to to create separate political solution. i believe that these opposition groups would find his clothes grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime so it's we have a red line. is the syrian regime free to do what it wants as far as his blood is concerned for all this all these things but his blood do not accept. that
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yes for sure so i think that president bashar assad has red lines and our brothers in syria have red lines have you and we reaffirm these red lines that we should have all of all a high price but the problem is there he said there is fighting going on with their lives and their money according only when one side entry inside the other one advances alama and i have had this so long mr turner was transmitting a simulation of slam close and there's no doubt that this is going to continue because even if one party retreats the other one would. uneasier has the clear will agree if you can eyes the syrian regime anymore why has it been easier taken this strong move to disconnect itself from syria. i believe for the. position that was taken in tunis for elsewhere was based. on incomplete infantry's i won't say incorrect i would say incomplete everywhere
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the largest of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented chair advance and western governments when it was told when they were told that the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be harnessed to this and just a great adventure really i don't consider also my believe that i think you have thought perhaps the reason for some of these positions came from the. because the young men i knew government. faced tough tests and they believe that they it's not it's not their time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and things like that and it's better to appease them and go along with them in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network the united states is walking. into us at the same time united states to clear. a free
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speech why do you think the us government is so scared over. they want to be able to tell people that one of the syrian terrorism terrorist organizations if it kills them it murders but they won't let people listen to us from ohio for example if there was a just a trial and yet we had a very lenient defendant should have an opportunity to defend themselves. but the us administration. we as we are accused but we don't even have and certainly had very basic rights defragmenter to defend ourselves even in truth we were given arguments all the time to leave the impulse of the world on so they are preventing this from reaching so either as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people to get. far. as you know is the main thing as far as my concern is that we had no objection
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if we specify the object if the subject. of human and not moral. and faithful paced and patriotic one there is no debate about this object of stripping great. ground for the occupation this is the original reason the real reason why hezbollah was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese when the we did no want to be don't want to get into government we cannot compete for political power for first time we entered the government the lebanese government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have a share of now a bunch of print sales to protect the back of the resistance so that this government the government that was set up in two thousand wouldn't make any incorrect mistake and gains the resistance we had fears of i mean. wouldn't you have objective correct objectives and i make it my priority and i have always all
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of the rivalries for the sake of this objective and i give everyone close to god and people cooperating so we'll show you this objective until this moment we we are getting in the polls are internal squabbles as far as we can you can see there are many many issues and lebannon about which there are huge arguments and differences how we are going to sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get involved in the morals of people our priority is still really have the liberation of our land and the protection of lebanon from the israeli threat because we believe that an economic it's still faces a threat. i want to go back to when you were a boy you were the son of a greengrocer what was your first memory as a boy in this home. did these really memories affect your political for.
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because we are naturally comparable when i was a child going to college and child. i was born and lived and the. whole fifteen years. since i was born in a neighborhood. from the east to the home as one in the neighborhood certain characteristics of the african and naturally the environment against the certain effect on one's nose and as i think either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood recently was a poor. excuse to have meant. i mean there was a sunni muslims. and it was christian i remember there were armenians there were kurds. and also they were looking nice and kind of standing there with so i was bored and i made in this very mixed and very little if i remember at
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a probably i think so naturally this made this made me sort of a legend concerned. about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people had been subject to suit so i had to in the very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood they were all expelled from their sounds from haifa for america from jerusalem from ramallah. this was the environment that i was born in and called. a brother so using very old yours about israeli incursion anticorruption this is interesting to me because i am in exploiting scripture need to feel the sheer and. extensive surveillance do you remember this story about how yes i was speaking. to me about how simplicity can defeat complexity. and for example with the
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israeli forces. in that i don't use very sophisticated technology. in their weapons or in their communications. i wonder if the resistance on the other hand is a token resistance and some of the most of the young men in it are just ordinary french horns and they come from farms and small towns and they come from an agricultural community. based and he's the basically cold remote control case. there's no there's no complication about ted they're very simple devices one of them but when they get the moment when they use code they simply use the kind of language that they kind of slang that's used in their villages and among their families so anyone listening most anyone listening sort of behind the surveillance devices and having the computer is trying to say you know trying to keep codenames this kind of language they will never be sure they won't be easily able to find out
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what this means and i said i'm listening to that for years and among these for the moment i think for example are you certain words about just the french kind of times. you know cooking hold and don't cane you. but i would be a day for these things grown up with yes i didn't have any of the father of it she came out something like this you know so that you know i made history in the intelligence community computer savvy and they're still going to understand who the father of the chicken is and why they flew the father of the chicken in the presence of the so that's not going to do you any good reason because there is going to direct and. i just make one very provocative course that it will read and learn why don't just if there is a and it is not political. you have for it against a hedge many of the united states isn't a law or the notion of
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a god the ultimate super powers and wouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept of a mono. god. not that we believe that god almighty well as the creator. of this existence and of human beings and of all created creatures. when we created us. gave us capabilities he gave us last mollies and that's the case the psychological is group sure capabilities we call it instinct that. people are in isolation all for when they're not as a nation from an interest lorcet just they have an instinct. but they have an instinct to tell the truth they have an instinct on the latest and tells them but truth is good from a little lying is bad justice is good and injustice is bad sad that that helping
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one people and i'm just trying to get out of defending them is a good thing i'm elected that a lot of talking under us and shedding their blood this is a horrible mess a lot more power. the way of the issue of resisting american here again many home or missing ok racially or resisting any attack against us or against our people. love this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one well law and a human one from god also one would not like the sensation so actually listens and the moral and human principle as consistent we are still normal savants but you can see. a lot of their everytime a prediction started out they were come up with anything that contradicts the mine owner that the human has nothing to because the creator of the religion is the same
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as the creator of the human rights and that you think such a very consistent. whenever you are in any country for you know if an outhouse or in a country are going to tear into leaders that's a recipe for a new india so how could. and you never see you haven't lost one of the the indians . and not in such beautiful harmony ok and i'm having more than one quarter in other words more than one cause it's already been torn to pieces you know so well that i didn't return because you know i would which are busy and he wanted five same pose and a religious duty from anyone he mollies abraham and the prophet abraham why one monk was always in favor of dialogue i'm showing evidence and we're all we're all followers of the prophet thank you sorry yes i'm not sure as you showed up for yourself we'll sort the. group. thank you thank you the interest has gone that it's a very high post go them with that if you made it. work that was even more like
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