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time drew in a song. that is where she would expose the world says she's talking as long as it's government being attacked by the powerful united states song. illegally five hundred days now by being detained without charge but doesn't focus. today on a quest to remove her ideas that can change the world tomorrow. this week i am joined by guest from a secret location and living on is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. he has for many battles with israel and is now a court up in the international struggle over syria i want to know why is he called a freedom fighter by millions and at the same time

a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel living on board his party his beloved is a member of the lebanese government ease its leader saeed and now it's really. are you ready. i read. an interview. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what boyd has book consider victory if you had that victory would you disarm. no that easy and the state of israel is not that it is an illegal state it's a state that without established on the basis of occupying the land so there's a lot of usurping the lands of the us and this law could throw named by force then and some others such as that of committing massacres against the got his opinions

you who were expelled. and based including this even some christians to believe that is so for those three from you just because he is a know well just destroy remains remains of their of the other side when even if he has a policy of off the ground the progress of time does not serve justice into no there's not making a judgement just place where you can smile how you feel about me for your house and i go ok call it the life force it doesn't become a minor in fifty or one hundred us just because i'm stronger than you i've yet been able to occupy your hands that doesn't give me it doesn't legalise why i should praise your house at least this is our ideological view and i mean coach you and i and we need for part assignments alone for the palestinian people that i would not imagine that if we wanted they're going to combine ideologue she an old and. i did realities and religious on the ground we should say that the only solution is we don't want to hear when it came to any one of them we took one to be treat

anyone just a name that mean one thing just just to be restored well no i think the only solution is the establishment one sunday the one state on the land of palestine was going mad muslims on the jews and the christians and even the east in a democratic state and any other solution. was simply not definable and in the worst case stand israel says it is so he'll to cool off has provided brokers in to israel the law sunni areas is that true. well. throughout the past year has been a. big if and since nine hundred forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine israeli forces have been shining for civilian seventy something and nobody's towns and his religion is. a weapon i'm interested in the resistance that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after

ten years of resistance. that we started reacting. only and strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the nine thousand nine hundred three there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance and israel and the understanding. of one thousand nine hundred six and that understanding that. makes clear that both sides are following shelling civilians and we've always used to say if you don't. shell of images and sounds then we have nothing to do with your villages in new york times so this message has a lot of hezbollah resorting to it after an unknown year of aggression against lebanese civilian stop and its aim is. to make a kind of that terror and balance to prevent israel from pretty good. according to

wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you see that you were shocked. at how corrupt. leaders are probably going to because. driving around in the issues he is. i do not have here. buying takeaway from. take away. is this a natural consequence of hezbollah moving into electoral politics within lebanon. well and what they said. about about this this phenomenon is not correct. this is part of the room. they wanted to use to discredit his beloved stuart it's image this is anyway holding me part of the media war

against us and you know talk about us they say. that we operate you know matthew your organization said. drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know religion and you know morrell it's a this is absolutely one of the biggest grounds that it's something we be fighting against there's a lot of things that are baseless and i wouldn't want to offend tevez that this this thing is not correct. secondly on. what they said recently what i say. it's just a very it's a limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that. there are some you know which families which which were not which in the past were not supporting hezbollah always supporting it it's a lie or its ideology or its program and you know after two thousand and one when

the resistance in levanon has got a lot of it has got the main proper components of the resistance and they managed to liberate sidetracking on that was seen as a kind of miracle because it created a great shock in lebanese society my first thought how quickly this small group like this just stand for thirty three days facing wish from the biggest most powerful army in the region without being defeated one half so there are groups inside syria which started considering themselves pro has been all supporters of hezbollah and they come from you know wealthy background that would never ever live consistent with the. financial capability so you know it's it's it's you know this is they say this is the dominant move to his beloved it's not true i say this really confident and with this information i've been favorable to me this is not really an omen and they have to be really. why have

you supported the arab spring in news you yemen egypt and other countries. in syria. well clear reasons first and when the originally first in principle be current want to interfere in the interference of arab states it's always been our policy. have been prevented and center of the world have been excited very serious and very importantly to next i don't know getting a new movement no party can just not take a position regarding. in syria everybody knows that this oppression of assets regime obama has supported their own the resistance in lebanon supported the resistance in palestine your primaries to snopes back to town in the face of history and american pressure so it's a receiver which serves the greatest thing and cause very well. what we call for in

serious negotiations i log is there a format for there are going to be carried out because the alternative to that are no way because of the first season but inside syria because of the sensitivity of the situation in syria they also just to push their way into civil war and this is exactly what america and israel want for syria so over the weekend over one hundred people see a night at the fueling homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it very cold when i can understand your logic in saying that we should not just destroy a country for more than an hour and it is much greater to reform our country if possible does his book have a red line national called if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed. there is a lot of. movement there and from the beginning of the difference in syria we've

had contacts constant contact that meeting should. and we spoke as friends about them about keeping each other if i was about the importance of carrying out reform is that right from the beginning i personally found the president i said was very willing to carry out radical and important might have missed this used to reassure us regarding the positions that we took. in more than one occasion publicly i used to give speeches and say this and say this and that and that night and then in my meetings with various lebanese and arab and other political leaders no i still held in the same things that i am confident the president has that wants for a force and i think this one time will be ariad reforms we must take genuine revile about that but the opposition has to increase through dialogue i'll say more than this is the first of us the evidence we have contacts and even elements of the opposition to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with

the ratio of these parties to reject a guy and i'm going to be right from the beginning of we've had a regime that this is when interest that undergo reforms and prepare for dialogue in america the other side you have an operation which is not prepared for telling us that one is not the it's not prepared to accept anywhere reforms in is all it once is you must bring down the regime plus or open up another thing major with this with what's happening in syria. has to be a legend that it wasn't true lies not just with one i. think will be the armed groups in syria you have militant very many civilians. prey do you see the syrian situation growing what should we do to stop the killing in syria is not you have to notice about called gloria understand why dialogue is very easy to talk about. practical measures to ride on how to bloodshed occurring in syria. next.

the previous question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to this image at this hour so there's certainly some states that offer money to provide money to provide where the hands which encouraging fighting inside syria and some of these arab countries and their own government countries as well as from one side come over here there's a very serious. issue as well which is concern and we all heard him talk for a minute so well i mean. when he when he called for the fighting in syria. to arms and so he said there are so there are fighters from outside who are right in syria and others that are us that are following them. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground that's a country that provides the wellness and money. would be able to get the opposition groups in there supporting to sit down a good table and resolve things but i think i said just

a few days ago that said america was the it was the project like this i'm going to have ten years and it's called dialogue with israel for tens of years not just all this destroyed everything that is resident the region plain but they're going to get one year or two years we are of and it's a good we're in just a few months to come up for a political situation in syria and this just doesn't make any sense and that's unfair would you be willing for years of mediate between these opposition groups and the outside regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states . that you are not an agent of the asset great team if they can be convinced. except to broker the peace. if you look at the experience of thirty years of has put a loss of life moves. over it it's just a friend of syria not an agent of syria. you know the very appearance of lebanon's political and cheering which our relationship with syria tried was not

good we had problems even between us going to open some stream of them and now those who used to benefit from that political. influence of syria in lebanon they are now the ones who are. they're not posing us whereas we used to be under pressure from syria could be our friends were not agency. very very small segments of the syrian opposition no doubt and all the political forces in the region now there's no girlfriend. first class of first go and second period when i say we support a political suggestion in the us that and most certainly will be willing to think so i mean i first want any contribution to this chief that's what i'm going to tickle solution to the past and i said to him. that obviously we contacted some politicians but they refused to get into it with the regime believe so any any group that wants i would probably dialogue with russia and would like us actually

we should be go betweens would be more than happy to mediate but we are asking others and we have to make their offense too soon to to create a political solution. i believe that these opposition groups would find his clothes grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime. troops we have a red line and. is the syrian regime free to do what it wants as far as his blood is concerned for are there some things that his beloved do not accept. when we come out yes for sure i think that president bashar assad has red lines and that our brothers in syria have red lines have you and we reaffirmed these red lines for we should have all of all a high price of the problem there he said there is fighting going on there and cordingly when one side or extreme the other one advances and how this so

long as the two was transmitting the same is no slam closer than is going to happen this is approaching continue because even if one party retreats the other one would have. and easier has the clear rule of recognize the syrian regime anymore why has new zealand taken this strong move to disconnect itself from syria. i believe. the position of the state in tunis court elsewhere was based. on incomplete construes i want to say incorrect i would say incomplete everywhere they are both of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented to our advance and western governments when it was told when they were told that the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be harnessed to this anticipated victory and i don't conceal also my belief that i think you have or perhaps the reason for some of

these positions taken by the us because the young government has faced tough tests and they believe that they it's now is not the time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and things like that and it's better to appease them than go along with them in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network united states is blocking. broadcasting into the us because same time united states stick with. a you know free speech why do you think. the u.s. got good. over. when you don't. want anyone to be able to tell people that has one of us or with terrorism terrorism or some organizations if it kills and it murders but they want people to listen to us from ohio for example if there wasn't just a trial and yet play of the very meaning they defend then should have an

opportunity to defend themselves i think one. of them but the us administration and . we as we are excused but we don't even have been sending out very basic rights if i had to defend ourselves that we united troops were given arguments all the time to leave their peoples of the world and hide themselves so they are preventing this from me. so i made as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people together under the face of the far. right is the main thing as far as my concern is that we have an objective we specify the objective subject. of human a moral. one and faith and paste and patriotic well there is no debate about it this objective is to give her a cigar lounge for a location and this is the this is the original reason the real reason why

hezbollah was the starkest in the first place and there's no dispute about this among lebanese when we did not want to be you know want to get into government we cannot compete for political power with the first time we entered the government the lebanese government was in two thousand and five and they moved up there was not in order to have a share of now a major projects to protect the back of the residents so that this government and the government that was set up in two thousand wouldn't make any incorrect mistake and against the resistance we had fears of i don't know. when we have a subject to correct objectives and i make it my priority and i have always all of the rightful reason for the sake of this objective that i can keep everyone close together and people cooperate takes we achieve this objective until this moment we are. getting in the polls in internal squabbles as far as we can but you can see there are many many issues and lebanon for which there are huge arguments and

differences of weight of points or sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get involved you know morals and people are the priority is still really one of the liberation of our land and the protection of lebanon from the israeli threat because we believe that never no it's still faces a threat. i want to go back to when you were a boy you were the son greengrocer boys your first memory as of boy in this home in a one on and did these really memories affect you will political thoughts. probably i think naturally from people when i was a child for the little child that i was born and lived and the. whole fifteen years. since i was born in a neighborhood. in east beirut at that high level much more of that neighborhood i

had seven hundred three mistakes all the after a natural even environment. leaves an effect on one person as i say either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood is simply the pull. it seems to have missed. and yes it was. sunni muslims that it was christina romer with armenians there were kurds. and also there will be nice and palestinians are both so i was bored and i'm a falcon it's very mixed and very into the environment will be out there so naturally this means this made me sort of a legend concerned about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people had been subjected sued to i had in a very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood when they were expelled from their sounds from haifa from from jerusalem from ramallah. this was the environment that i was born and brought up

and. it's using the old yours about israeli incursion anticorruption this is interesting to me because i am an expert in corruption. of. the sheer and. extensive surveillance period of history. yes i was thinking about. how simplicity can defeat complexity. and for example with the. really forces in that they use very sophisticated technology. weapons or in their communications. the resistance on the other hand is a popular resistance and most of the young men in it are just ordinary french horns and they come from farms some small towns and they come from an agricultural

kind of state. and basically he's the city they speak on ordinary walkie talkies. because no there's no complication about very simple devices but when they get the moment when they use code base imperious kind of language that kind of slang that's used in their villages and among their families so anyone listening most anyone listening sort of behind the surveillance devices and having the computer is trying to you know i'm trying to keep codenames this kind of language you will never be sure there would be easily able to find out what this means and i said let's leave next for you. among these presidents most of them say for example to use certain words. just the french kind of terms. you know the cooking codes and gone clean. the idea that he can finish things whom. you

know the father of a chick a bow something like this you know so that there is training intelligence compassion compared to administering good understanding the father of the chicken isn't why they call him the father of the chicken and how they let me start with you because that's not going to do you any good in reaching the summit where the benedict is. just great one very provocative course that is all read and. then just if there's a and it is not political well you can now lay says. you have forty against germany of the united states isn't a law or the notion of a god the ultimate super power and shouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept i want to feel called. not that we believe we're told oh my it's who is the creator. of this

existence and of human beings and of all created creatures. when we created us. gave us capabilities that gave us the chance bodies and i see it is a psychological and spiritual capabilities we call it instinct on. people in isolation call for when they're not as a nation from religious laws just they have an instinct a thought that afternoon but they have an instinct to tell the truth they and their instinct on the against truth is good from a little lying is bad justice is good injustice is bad sad that that helping out would not normally call it i'm just trying to be able to defend him it's a good thing. attacking others and shutting their blog this is horrible muscle power play power. play with the issue of resisting all american here get many more missing ok racially resisting any attack against us or against

our people. love this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one will live to hear my mother now gone also not like the sensation so this is sense to me i would moral and human principle must somehow consistent we are still not all that yet also haven't done that because a. lot of think they are every hundred religions did not equal power come up with anything that contradicts the mind on drugs as a human example not because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator of the human and better things are a consistent. whenever you are in any country for you know if in the house or in the country again if there are two leaders that's a recipe for a new will be so how could the universe have the last of the the. indians ideas. in such beautiful harmony ok and have more than one god the father was more than one

god it's really been trying to piece as much so we actually have evidence we don't as yet i would object if he needed five to impose and a religious thing from what he and i leave abraham the prophet abraham. was always in favor of which i mean dialogue and showing evidence and we are all your old fellow is a. prophet thank you so much cause you see enough for me i still possible. thank you thank you these are the theatre which was free zoners very good post goes on with that if you mean. what i was given but. show correct them. six-pack the the such

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