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the. rumors are reports and even more questions coming out of act one or today surrounding a high profile extradition case of wiki leaks founder julian assange will sort through the details and show you how as sondra got to this point. it looks like not all of congress is on turning the u.s. into a surveillance state from the eyes in the skies to the ears on the ground we'll tell you about two bills out to regulate drones and monitor cell phones and why you should pay attention to that. the olympic the celebrity hard to deal. with the people who live. here. and we see as new as primetime the brainchild of
spending the airwaves putting a pretty face on the ugly realities of war but not of several nobel peace prize winners have anything to say about it we'll speak to one of them coming up. and if there's one group of people you don't want to cross it's debt collectors especially when it comes to credit card debt but those lawsuits might not exactly be legal coming up we'll ask our financial guru why ninety percent of credit card cases are flawed. it's tuesday august fourteenth six pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. we begin with an update on the breaking news we've been following this afternoon there are conflicting reports that will grant political asylum to wiki leaks founder julian assange onj has been held up in the ecuadorian embassy embassies. since june nineteenth in london he's been
fighting extradition to sweden to face sex charges are to correspondent christine for updates us on how we got to this point and that julian assange saga. that we first met julian assange on here in washington in two thousand and ten where he unveiled the collateral murder video at the national press club. it showed it to u.s. army pilots treating war like a video game killing countless civilians in the process including two journalists a songe appeared in our studios later that night to talk more about wiki leaks and what he hopes to achieve with his website the first step in the fourth state is to get information out about the real world and the second step is to comment on it and to think about it but we need sources can't get this through to be integration out to the public in the weeks following a song and wiki leaks were everywhere wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks
wiki leaks but it wasn't long before publications that originally partnered with wiki leaks like the guardian der spiegel in the new york times turned against a saw much as did many others who said he should be killed to get hurt for the american people the way to deal with and they were in the end the nashik your united states will deal with this is pretty simple we got special ops forces i mean the dead man can't leaks that this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states he was then accused of sexual assault by two women in sweden a sign says the sex was consensual and denies any wrongdoing the founder of wiki leaks arrested by british police this morning after turning himself in he's now facing rape charges in sweden a british judge has granted wiki leaks founder julian assange bail julia saunders appealing against an order to extradite him to sweden he spent much of the last two years on house arrest in london julie. i also had
a show on our team will replace. the can change the world tomorrow where he interviewed hezbollah leaders to either hassan those rolo as well as ecuadorian president rafael correa what the ecuadorian people think about the united states and its involvement in latin america and in ecuador and it would be president rafael correa that would give julian a songe the green light to make ecuador his new home assad has been living in the ecuadorian embassy in london since june nineteenth and since the president said he would make his announcement after the olympic games president said if he does grant a songe political asylum it would be an informed decision and one made in the name of human rights in washington christine for south r.t. . well it's been a lot of chatter on capitol hill as of late regarding privacy from cyber security the concerns are maddie from wire warrantless wiretapping to domestic drones it
seems everywhere you turn someone or something is keeping a watchful eye but there are at least a few in congress that want to take action to defend privacy congressman ed markey of massachusetts has drafted two bills one would stop or cell phone tracking by the government the other would require the federal aviation administration to instate privacy protections for licenses to operate drones else even tejay policy analyst and telecommunications expert at the reason foundation joined me earlier and explained the legislation take a look. oh well we've got several things going we've got the legislation concerning groans and we've got an explosion concerning. wireless about where it was phones and the government's ability to get records from our own wireless phone companies. the domestic market bill that's ever skewed us the wireless bill well essentially
require what would be normal fourth amendment protections when the police or law enforcement the f.b.i. goes out to get information regarding geo location it requires the government to keep to provide information about. how they're you know the number of requests they do it requires them to. especially if they cannot really do these what are called. so our address self powered duff's where they essentially ask for information about all the communications activity that has come out of one cell sector these are kind of fishing expeditions so bottom line what what speech getting here is at least congressional action to expand fourth amendment protections into the world of cyberspace into the world of information that's
traveling the internet or stored outside someone's on someone's computer in a third party database i don't see that you've expressed optimism about this legislation before what kind of a chance the i think it stands. it's tough to assess the chance of any legislation in congress right now. is the because we're approaching the end of the session reproaching the election. what's good is that it's being brought up up to now i sadly i think it's being ignored as the government's power and law and it's. really aggressive move into these areas have gone without any sort of response from congress. any sort of popular reaction.
so i think the best thing the best thing out of this so far is getting the debate started whether anything happens in this session i think is very questionable but discussion we need to get we need to have need to be talking about exactly how much power the government has to just go in and look at personal information that may be stored outside your own home outside other computers or servers all right say it seem pretty skeptical that it will actually go anywhere anytime soon but some of the things you described earlier you know in terms of protecting our privacy same pretty basic seem pretty sensible so why isn't there more of a push from congress on the issue is i mean they are supposed to protect the public's interest. it's. it's unfortunate you say it's something that's going under the radar right now i'm
afraid to say i think there's still a big push to show. that. legislators are strong arm security it's why we have even though everybody kind of. a knowledge is that the t.s.a. airport system isn't the greatest nobody wants to do anything about it because nobody wants to be soft on security. the same thing we have with drones and with other other aspects of the patriot act is that. it's a way of showing it's a way of show they're strong on security and. it's. a little bit of i think it's a little bit of cowardice a little bit of reticence for them to stand up and say wait a minute we've got to look at what the constitution says about this. government is
overreaching in a lot of these cases these things stephen that it could possibly be a problem of understanding that you know everything technology technology is advancing so rapidly that congress may be kind of stuck in the past they don't have fully grasped you know technology they'd say it's in part ironically i think i think more. it is that it is a failure to grasp technology but it's also failed to grasp really what the key bill these are and there's a lot of space being put in the effect of this of video surveillance you know you see movies like the bourne identity twenty four. really that's kind of a romanticized and very. inaccurate picture of how about how these technologies work yes there are large surveillance systems there are facial recognition systems but they don't work they don't work that way in the real
world they're prone to mistakes you can build you can't you can't follow a suspect around the city from camera to camera but it looks like an easy fix right now even though i mean to cut you off for our kind of getting to the end of the show here but hopefully these two pieces of legislation provide some kind of glimmer glimmer of hope and thank you so much for coming out a child that was stephen teche policy analyst for the reason foundation. but reality television show starring outraged critics say n.b.c.'s new military themed show stars are. stripes glorifies war it's a beauty last night and has a cast of people you can loosely defined as stars they're paired with former members of the armed forces and go through military training and missions similar to what real legs soldiers go through here's a look at the trailer. these are americans on the ground maybe seal the delta force a group or
a. beat celebrity try to deal. with the. there's no going back no brainer. this is. monday. well it's being sold as a way to honor our troops but many don't see it that way including a group of nine nobel peace prize winners that say the show is trying to portray war as amusing and entertaining they go as far as to call a war propaganda and they wrote a letter to the chairman of n.b.c. calling for the show's cancellation here's a quote states as people who have seen too many faces of armed conflict and violence and who have worked for decades to try to stop these seemingly unending march toward the increased military is ation of societies and the desensitisation of people to the realities and consequences of war we had our voices and our
support to those protesting stars earn stripes we need to call upon n.b.c. stop airing this program that pays homage to no one and is a massive disservice to those who live and die and armed conflict and suffer its consequences long after the guns of war fall silent but help discuss this i was joined by a long time peace activist civil liberties advocate in one nine hundred ninety seven nobel peace prize winner jody williams i was watching the olympics and. it kept playing over and over and over the trailer. and every time i saw it i got increasingly angry and i decided. i was sick of doing nothing to protest the marriage between hollywood and the pentagon when you know weapons paid for by tax dollars are offered to hollywood movies for
example in order to make it more realistic i just see it as propagandizing i see it is in the temp to desensitize people as we said in the letter my decided i organized by friends nobel laureates and by the way we're now up to ten mohammad yunus just joined on the day organize them to sign the letters to protest that we we were going to call for the cancellation and work towards that end and i just mentioned watching the commercials for the show you know playing out throughout the olympics what is the significance of that playing it during the olympics that's why they watched international events well only if you go to their web site they like in what they're doing to competition like for and have such a huge audience obviously they were trying to get as many people to think about the show to think about the so-called heroism of the military i think it's also.
used as a recruiting tool as well as propaganda for war now n.b.c. touts the show as quote paying homage to the men and women that serve in the u.s. armed forces and our first responders jodi how do you feel about that description i think it's a lie. if you go and watch the show i forced myself to watch one hour of the two hours last night because i felt like if i was going to be talking against it i should at least see it i really think that the producers and directors should hang their heads in shame i think that these celebrities if that's what they are. who decided to be in this show really look at what they're doing should hang their heads in shame general wesley clark who ran for president of united states and knows what real war is is actually hosting this joe the the most
exciting if you will if you like war and violence moments are the trailer if you go into the show itself it's profoundly boring it takes forever they keep doing it over and over for teams of you know there's the soldiers coupled with the many celebrities and they go through the same routine for clients in the show and there's no risk to their lives whatsoever it's a joke and they certainly as staring outrage in r t actually spoke to some protestors outside of the n.b.c. studio in new york city and wanted to take a listen now to what some of them had to say. i think it's. it's an insult to the most complete and especially to veterans and i happen to be a navy veteran to trivialize. war through it it's a horrible phenomenon but it's part of the american cultural war and militarism so
it's understandable but can you imagine when kids see this show and they see this people using live bullets they don't see the blood they don't see the bodies blown apart and you had touched upon this earlier jodi and kind of want to elaborate on what those protesters were saying there that this program i mean a it seems to glorify war but doesn't portray the whole picture and war of course is deadly and horrific and not all glory. that's true is for example the teams are supposed to attack of watchtower if they were attacking watchtower in enemy territory there would be and then to be sniper or machine gun in the watchtower firing at them there's nothing there it's a prop so they blow the prop up then they crawl under barbed wire but no one's shooting at them they're just crawling under barbed wire and then it goes on like that over and over again and there was one of the celebrities if you will when.
they were in the law my mission that's a total lie there's nothing lie about that mission is a is a faith mission and how they can pretend that that is honoring soldiers who actually do die soldiers who come home without limbs soldiers who come home so psychologically shattered that they commit suicide is beyond me to understand i think n.b.c. should be ashamed and can you talk a little bit more about the danger the you had mentioned earlier that that seems to be a trend the blurring of the war in reality the reality of war with entertainment what are the dangers of turning war and entertainment when i think we've been doing it for an awful long time i mean hollywood supported world war two for example look at the films of nazi germany through you know raise up patriotism when they started
attacking the countries of western europe and the soviet russia that time it's not a new trend i i think the problem for me now is the insidiousness of it in the united states. it's so in some ways so subtle and in other ways so latent that you can state that every time i see like jets flying over a sporting events i ask myself what is the place of the u.s. military flying over the super bowl or whatever that's taxpayer money first of all those jets are not wired what do they have to do with sports if it's over and over and increasingly they find ways to make military and patriotism a bigger part of the u.s. because they have a borderless war with their war on terror they take it wherever they want and they
need a us citizen to be willing to support fess up to glorify war now daddy i know that you as a noble peace prize and when are have been fighting to reclaim the meaning of peace can you elaborate on that sure peace is not to my young my lord not a dump flying over rainbow it's hard work every single day the absence of armed conflict is merely the bare minimum one needs to be able to build the possibility of the same noble peace which is the basic needs of the majority of humanity being met like just a decent house. possibility of employment so that a family can work them so it's basic education or the key is if the access to health care i just keep thinking and i believe this is my total goal.
if the big needs of most evil were met there would be a hell of a lot less conflict in the world because we would be fighting for resources that's all right jodi thank you so much for coming on the show really appreciate it that was jody williams longtime peace activist civil liberties advocate and nine hundred ninety seven noble priest peace prize winner looks like credit card companies are turning to court to collect their debts but there's a problem there are lawsuits upon documents that are incomplete or inaccurate among other problems one judge who often presides over one hundred such cases each day as a means that ninety percent of credit card lawsuits are flawed this is exactly like the robo signing that got servicers into trouble regarding mortgages and foreclosures now why would financial institutions think they could get away with something like this for some answers i spoke to lauren lyster host of artes capital account she broke down these of fraud cases take a listen. ok well what we're talking is
a lot of the same things that sound very reminiscent of what we've been hearing about foreclosure practices and the illegal foreclosure practices of banks what we've saw all of the allegations that were supposed to be wrapped up with a nice bow in that twenty five billion dollar mortgage foreclosure settlement that we heard about remember that well all of those same processes released a lot of them were banks don't have the proper paperwork they're not following proper rules proper legal requirements and trying to get these debts from people that they claim that they're they're owed them by the banks are doing the exact same thing this is according to the new york times it's an article on this so it sounds in many ways like what a repeat of what we've already seen with the foreclosure crisis and fraud just transferred now into a different industry with collection of credit card debt by big banks named in the article american express citi group in discover financial going to court to recoup their money but not having the proper paperwork well it seems like this is you know all disregard for the law what makes them think they can get away with this what
would make them think that they couldn't took a. billion dollars settlement may sound like a big number twenty five billion dollars is a lot of money for you where i live is more than we'll ever see in our lifetime but we're talking about the biggest banks all coming together that is a small price to pay for wiping their slate clean cross in their t.'s and dotting their i's and getting away with these kind of practices but you know i asked neil barofsky about this earlier he's special and former special interest specter general of tarp you just came out with a new book bailout and he can probably answer better than i can with more authority at least from having been on the inside working with wall street in washington as to why these banks would still be thinking they can get away with this let's take a listen. in part it's because of the toothless settlement that resulted out of the bank's misconduct in the robo signing with the foreclosure fraud you had a settlement that had almost no accountability money that was being credited to the
banks for a whole bunch of conduct that they would do otherwise and no criminal prosecutions whatsoever in attending it other than they now it's been of some show task force the banks hear that and that's empty deterrence. and that taskforce that he mentioned we haven't heard a lot from we certainly haven't heard about any big cases that they're going after criminal cases and so you know mr prosser gets a lot of things that i hear from many gas money experts and that we believe which is that there really has been no major punishments in the wake of the financial crisis that would make banks think that they don't want to do these things or that they can get can't get away with these crimes and you know what do we see it lauren of these cases what with the bankers and the banks they seem to be civil. not criminal what does he think about that what we did talk about that and that he does believe that the lack of criminal prosecutions is a problem and one thing that i thought was really interesting that he details in his book and that we talked about in our interview was the lack of desire for criminal prosecution see barofsky comes from from prosecuting in new york the
southern district of new york a very well known region where he prosecuted the red coat fraud which is a firm that went bankrupt and he prosecuted this c.e.o. and the president he's been involved in these cases he goes to washington he's overseeing tarp and they build a case around a guy who is committing fraud they have an airtight case or at least he says their agents did and the d.o.j. was afraid to push forward with it and and his read was that they weren't they were uncomfortable with with going after such a high profile case and maybe had had as much experience doing that i mean i guess some of my bras he was used to that when he was working for the prosecutor's office but that very fact if that is the case should be concerning a forward if our that's our d.o.j. prosecutors are so wimpy but one of the things that he did point out is he thinks that there is an experience gap these are sophisticated white collar crimes they do require a knowledge of sophisticated issues and he said that he believes there may be
somewhat of an experience gap he talked about moving resources away from an area like this to an area like counterterrorism so there may be an experience gap i don't know that's that's certainly his speculation or assessment. but it's a problem and yes many people including believe that unless there are criminal prosecutions this will continue and the interesting you know we talk a lot about this kind of a revolving door between wall street and washington and whatever i have to say about this traffic filled highway between wall street and washington that it's still clogged and this is one of the main issues. that we see again and again it's something that goes into at length in his book so when he was policing fraud with tarp and it's dispersed so one of the issues he kept running up against was treasury and feeling that they were captured essentially by the wall street revolving door that a lot of these guys had come from wall street were going back to wall street or just surrounded themselves by these wall street folks always in the form of their
aides or just have been in the it in these regulatory bodies for so long that that's just the only voice that they heard and he labels as a major problem in just a kind of give you a sense of what this kind of you could call it it's an aggressive term this kind of collusion builds we talked a little bit about a program to end up being gutted pretty significantly because of sig. raising the red flag about it and really hammering at home but initially it was planned as barofsky puts it designed by wall street for wall street with of course the help of the treasury here he is describing a little bit of that program we complacent and it turned out it was originally intended to be a trillion dollar program that had that was so riddled with the opportunities in advantages for the giant investment funds of wall street funds that were going to run the program that it was that it was primarily based or lending tremendous amounts of taxpayer money leverage to multiple different government bailout
programs that could have left it to be less than one or two percent of actual investor money the rest of it all provided by the taxpayer with very limited upside but all of the downside. but that just shows what policymakers were thinking that it was appropriate to give all of the upside to investors and all of the downside to taxpayers even after the financial crisis it was like a rerun and and a lot of the things that mr barofsky were talking about was talking about have this same trend he painted a really interesting story about talking to william dudley of the new york fed about what kind of oversight there was going to be what kind of protections against fraud in another tarp program and he was saying oh well we're going to rely on the ratings agencies we're going to rely on our economic models and we're going to rely on investor due diligence we're not planning on compliance so essentially all of the things that led to the financial crisis and neil barofsky said that he does believe that this same kind of thought process where these regulators aren't able to see and adjust with the reality is
a problem that still persists today and libel or of course is something that we see that that was during the financial crisis but the new york fed got a tip off that they didn't start an investigation of the time really i was saying a lot going on lauren great to have you here in the studio that was lauren lyster host of the capital account that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash artsy america you can also check out our website at is r t com slash usa and you can also follow me on twitter liz wall will be right back here at eight pm see that.
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