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the back. some of the old notion of a corporation is based on what's called limited liability limited liability means that individual participants in a corporation cannot be charged with crimes of the corporation commits the kind to
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a very limited one of the major runs its course and. the corporation acts in such a way that kills. managers the c.e.o. and the shareholders have limited liability and it's not disregard for human life that maybe the nicest people in the world maybe give to charity. but in their institutional role as managers of the corporation there is a task that they asked. that task is to maximize profit and market share. if they don't do that they're out and somebody else is in the dust of the indian government meanwhile declare itself the sole representative of the victims and proceed to sort out the case for four hundred seventy million dollars which was so cheap that carbide start went up by two dollars a share the sentiment was there if you could not mean that it could be such a growth sellout because the union government agreed to settle all bost present and
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future liabilities for a sum as small as four hundred seventy million dollars. people received as little as five hundred dollars for lifelong injuries and. unpunished. i believe whatever happened in the past we cannot change it but what is happening now is in our control it's been twenty seven years and the government should least do something like people seek a clean water because the ground water is contaminated by whoever survived that night and whatever life is left for the gas victims they should get proper treatment so they can spend the rest of their lie. it's in good health. they are gas and water victim children grow up born into deformities and their future has to be kept in mind so that these kids can live a proper life and so that their parents do not take them as some sort of burden
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which i think. you're welcome. i love and trust are. good afternoon c.h.r.y. this is only a summer home to la and i'm joined on the line by son jay very much who is an activist in the bhopal campaign and also a survivor of the terrible disaster in one thousand nine hundred eighty four so sanjay can you tell us a bit about what happened to you on the night of december third one thousand nine hundred four well i was born in july before i would already been a mother and i are so frightened and really don't know why i asked myself so because i had no one with me at the better looking at my school. she would like. it and. i would be. like.
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you in my own eyes that you would like and i ran every. sunday was less than two and his sister was nine his elder brother i mean he was only thirteen and these were the only people left alive in a family of them. over the years in my family old runaways but i was told later two of them died in hospital my. mother my mother and father were. the bodies of three sisters from here by one of. the other two are missing. they lost their parents and three sisters and two brothers all in one thousand my bad and. my family members died because of this factor.
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and his sister and when. i. got into the garden. but according to the people who were carrying out bodies from the from the how. they went out into ten thousand people died in the next seventy two hours and for our twenty five thousand people have died. i remember my but that all came up and organize it and. then automatically i myself lucky involved in the fight and i joined that organization i think. now i realize a lot of the young guys actually. kids playing then and all know how contaminated the factory how on going to fire on the factories they're like
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security inside the factory mud and they're not paying attention to our sense of. why he did this study we just want to assist the extent of chemical contamination within the factory and outside and see if there is a linkage because that by moving it is going to go far for that are going to slowly that's the site because if you've got a belief besides the justified it is using if you look at all the lead got here men's room and look at enough and it was very high mostly ideas off and one to that little baby the phone mostly as it is back been invented last night i did this little bit out and you can still see mostly in the stuff that of their design and their clothes not surprising that the plant is very high most of them ok. we have received very important documents in this case that i think establish very clearly
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that union carbide knew that vans as early as one nine hundred seventy three that this pollution problem that we're facing today they knew this was going to happen and they and they went ahead with this project despite that specific knowledge as early as nine hundred seventy three union carbide engineers were warning the company that the bhopal plant presents an unusual challenge in that there's no nearby running body of water into which waste can be discharged. so from the design stage waste disposal plant was and was a major concern. a lot of waste streams from the plant emptied into the area of the plant known as the solar evaporation pond area. here and this is where the waste in toxic sludge were dumped by union card we were standing right on top of it and the other side is you can see there used to be a small leak which you had a car but also used as
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a dumping ground for their waste people depended on the water from the leak so they drank it and it cost and pedantic. union carbide knew from the design stage that the bhopal plant could pollute groundwater they also knew that there was there was a surrounding community that used that groundwater for its drinking water supply. so they believe that they can get rid of someone. by being it and then when they had like some kind of sludge so they took all dust from the bones and here and there and you see this black lining underneath the ground of this landfill they believe that this kind of lining if this lining on the ground it can get. away from the. lining and the need to go everywhere i want here. we believe the
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solar evaporation ponds continues to be a source of the subsurface water pollution that's now leeching through the aqua for and spreading into the surrounding communities and can be detected as far away as three kilometers from the main plant campus so that evacuation what we found very high was really you see it was you very early on as the only industry and was destroyed. you know me i'm isolating that recent one. off on the factor you want to do with still being gone dominated and people are forced to needed water because they do not have any of that shite. away and will remain a source of pollution for this area until it's remedial and the party that can do that is you know this december will mark the twenty fifth anniversary of the tragedy at a union carbide india ltd facility in bhopal and even today continues to evoke
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strong emotions globally and rightfully so we're saddened however that despite all that has been written about the tragedy in the past twenty five years so many misconceptions still exist about union carbide and it's wrong the government of india is the appropriate entity to address any i'm going to express by the people of bhopal. we are saddened by the fact that the site remains on remediated adding to the tragedy that has occurred the site today is in the hands of the state government my dear pradesh the state government owns the site and together with the central government they are trying to get the site cleaned up union carbide it's now a wholly owned subsidiary of dow chemical dow chemical. two thousand one third the boards of carbide approve the burger agreement that will create the world's second largest chemical company. does complicate things and doesn't because the. nation is very good in india and in the u.s.
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and. the polluter pays principle is the idea under international law that the liability for pollution should always be traced back to the polluter the polluter should not be able to externalize the costs of pollution onto society at large or a third party it shouldn't be the government's responsibility to clean up at public expense after private polluters. so no no no no that is one of the. life people. drinking contaminated water you see. in the neighborhood and then we've got a lot of this bomb tests every founded highly contaminated they do not have any other choice and they are drinking this water. it was like sometime two thousand and four it was sometime in the evening. when i refused to back to my home there
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was a letter written by my brother. i'm going to die in a few men so take care of yourselves and he was like he was laying on his back in this room so i had to phone one of my one of my brother's friends and they said. both of us took my brother to the hospital and finally had to write that thing. before that he had run into a jungle where food he had tried to set him off fire. he didn't have any physical problems his sickness was that of paranoia and fear that if anyone came over then she would go and hide in the bathroom he used to say he could hear a voice in his mind i believe. in hills with time but involved it's getting worse . if we blame each other for everything no solution will
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come. government blames the company we blame the government of the government so first the company suffers and most importantly the people who suffer. i don't remember actually who was the media person who asked me this question who do you blame to work surely according to you. before i answer to his question he said you were goldman but he said to me your government's like ditching you they have been digging people from. so if you're going is not willing to help you then what will you. do for you. on that i'm not particular night on the second and third december some gases from the union carbide leak some of the people died now being an autopsy surgeon it was my moral duty to find out what the cause of death was. after analysis it was established that cyanide was present
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along with nearly twenty nine compounds are which were deadly. they get us just like in hiroshima and nagasaki it had an adverse effect on their genes so similarly this adverse effect of the gases causing genetic mutation in india they all thought i would like that we don't speak up because he's not a good image of all india in america they don't want to talk about because in spite of the fact that there is a wall of and fall the rest against mr one man and a son a mr anderson has retired in a beautiful house in. new york and of course never. it was a bone of glacier we're looking at we're going to be inventive and one of the implications is for the nation which you know the more than thirty thousand people are affected and the people who are drinking the polluted water think about the problems this
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can problems that is this is through the. infections industrialization of the. foreign investment you know the. all of those are sick and that's the position that i'm going to get specific governments are not in business to protect the population . that's what they say they are but it's usually a pretty low priority. don't take any worry that somebody started to take over or the record the country that started it pretty often loses and often the loss of the work can be devastating to the population but the leaders who are willing to take the risk are those to the world for their own hands i mean it's not. history. the. least want to responsiveness soft on telly the government is pimping for dow
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chemicals and these are the. same people who have so far stoked justice for the bhopal gas victims. but we strongly feel that on this occasion of the twenty seventh anniversary we will be able to destroy the nexus and we will get justice. to the layout of manhattan not to go around to get on by the people the other ones who are violent we have a lot of the people responsible for this you can follow them you know this is not the rehab military that it was the way in grade five years what did we not get just if you missed it is one of these what isn't new but i love the concept is this legal it's like i was hired to do emerge an acquisition for union carbide to bring all of the computer applications on the same traumas doubts i saw how a corporation works because they are more concerned about bottom line profit than
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anything i just decided that i was making a profit for just the wrong people and chemicals made the decision to purchase union carbide knowing that these liabilities were outstanding so when you purchased the assets of a company purchased those liabilities. that we're just asking for our right to clean water union carbide has fully exploited the sort of international dimension of this problem it informs the american courts that new york law can't apply because these events took place in india the same time the same indian law doesn't apply so in effect they're arguing that they're above the law so there are international. behavior for. of course international law has no enforcement laws are forced by somebody. if the united states doesn't force a. lot of oh but they should take responsibility for. where
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dime from the water i mean no one is offering clean water they have no choice. dow chemical go to how it go to how do how. agents of dow should be spanked. if you look at subject to the jurisdiction of india then you'll have to submit to the american boards and the american boards after news of the above. in two thousand and four the supreme court's directed the government to provide clean and safe water but the governments of the states and central has failed to honor the supreme court order. then the problem is that by november two thousand and nine the government would supply clean water but that promise was never fulfilled looked up to some pipelines were laid in some areas in every area of the water there supplying the spikes his duty and not. kids
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and dad might differ dish but mission control board certified advanced very high concentrations of that do so knowingly this water is what is being supplied to the locals who have given their lives. no company should realize that it cannot break this country's low. i budget if we win this fight outsiders will gain nothing again will be for years the people of palm. like you know most of what we have asked for is the clean up cost union carbide should clean all the poisonous and hopeful toxic chemicals that are stored inside the plant. army to the groundwater which is polluted in
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a radius of three kilometers around the plant should be cleaned and union carbide should be paid for about you. going to. bring i'm dissing to india bring them here. chemical leave india leave india on top of that we have asked for compensation for the victims who are suffering. it's our mission to fight for people who are weak people who cannot fight for themselves or even know how. this is all union carbide should bear these expenses because in the coming ten to fifteen years people will keep getting affected due to the growing to water contamination and will be more prone to cancers like diseases given audios. we are fighting for our society we are fighting for our country we are fighting for gas victims. its only by virtue of the fact that this outfit.
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is even able to exist the day has come out this year a fresh known bailable warrant has been issued for foreign anderson. and if the government fails to wake up and help then we are committed to fight the next twenty seven years against the nexus between the company and the government the process could change dramatically if the indian government if you're interested has the kind of stuff that is understandable in the man who they are not they don't have the authority to sell what they could think of government but what they have said to the government if they want this really come to an interview i think it was what it was that. they were all the survivors in court of law they have subpoenaed they have submitted a letter although that's it all over the phone with us or you're with us i. guess and any ideas from our research one thing is very clear the union carbide
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india factory is infected with poison food it is a poison which will not lead to death just by touching it so i can understand why there might be a pradesh government is saying there is no poison given this but it is also true that it's a kind of poison that is leaking into our environment that is the main thing i'm sane is that the factory should be cleaned as soon as possible. god has given us this beautiful word with all the facilities that god has given everything here why destroyed. that will come on friends join the march with the victims and show that your passion has not cooled doubt. it has not turned down because we did not get justice and unless we get justice our passion will never come down. every year millions of people dying
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because of his unburdened pursuit of profit. and what people in bhopal are saying is that you cannot do it in far not allowed to do. because life is sacred and that cannot be violated and. this is my house the twanging the strength from the rest of the world who will get justice from dollar company that i. did one hundred fifth anniversary is just to learn the four years of the verse read the first two for diversity will be as important for the final goal and the goal is to clean the factory farm all those toxic effluents which still pull you the water that the people have to drink . the amazon i want the world to understand the crime of these companies they profit from the analysts products as they show on t.v.
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. the same products boys in our lives will not only eat. we should never allow down to continue their poisonous business in any other city in the world so that another book powell who will not be repeated by. any worse really gives us more spirit gives us more and go to judgment people i don't know why i have been formal and may get more support every year than the previous year if there is justice in this world would be safer for all of us to live in because it would set a precedent and a parent company cannot set up a subsidiary somewhere in the world create a large scale environmental problem there and then when the time comes to fix liability sell off its local subsidiary and then retreat to the united states or any other developed country and to basically say that nobody can sue them here and nobody can hold them accountable so that's the sort of context in which if our
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litigation were to be successful it would set important precedent. am i was.
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