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it's been over a year since the u.s. took out osama bin ladin during a raid deep inside pakistan despite the displeasure of from the pentagon a member of the seal team that conducted the raid with has written a tell all so is he a hero or a traitor we'll dive into the topic. and marching for workers' rights on labor day protesters take to the streets of the charlotte north carolina just ahead of the opening of the d.n.c. so why is the pro labor party holding their national convention in a state that's not friendly to unions are tea asks more. and democrats and as democrats gather for their convention our team is in charlotte to cover the event will look at some of the president obama's promises from four years ago and find
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out if he has come so close to come close to fulfilling them. it's tuesday september fourth four pm in washington d.c. i'm mega lopez and you're watching our t.v. . well topping the news this hour it's one of the most highly anticipated book releases in the us a firsthand account of the raid on osama bin laden's compound with a detailed explanation of the events leading up to those tense moments in the book named no easy day the firsthand account of the mission that killed osama bin laden was published today by penguin books and is already a bestseller on amazon it was coauthored by two men the well known journalist kevin mauer and a former navy seal who used the pseudonym mark owen turns out the former seal is thirty six year old matt is a net from rangle alaska for many americans this book is exactly what they wanted
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an inside look of what really happened that they had bought about compound sixty minutes was the first station to interview matt bissonnette here's part of the interview. one of the things that i liked after the fact was i remember our bowling coach coming by and talking to each one of us and then our whole sort of as well i thought that was that was cool that you know they walked by shook each word and so they are are you guys ready could you just pull it off and then i'm pretty sure to a man would also if yes absolutely how long was it before you got the cold to go we had a week off from virginia beach and i want to say off it was a complete but then we had a week a week off at home. conducted one more herschel day training on the on the web site as mark up and then we got the word that we're going now many are questioning the motives of the book and the pentagon is eager to its hands on the book as well as the man who wrote it isn't it to not have the book vetted by the pentagon before publishing it and he had its line to
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a non-disclosure forms while serving the seals so is he a hero or a traitor and what could possibly come out of prosecuting him colonel morris davis is a retired air force attorney and a professor at howard university school of law colonel davis thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about these nondisclosure formats are forms how how binding are they expecting when you're out of the military well they're very clear i signed similar agreements when i was in the military and sure like mr bissonnette when i left as well you signed saying that you would not disclose classified information and it explains or penalties for doing so that it's fairly explicit what you're getting into and talk about the process of vetting books i understand that they actually have to look through everything because it's a matter of national security if these books have classified information but do they ever claim that things that are maybe not necessarily national secrets just things that maybe make them ill military look bad well there's a good example tony shaffer who was a former army officer wrote
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a book that the pentagon made a bestseller overnight because they went out and bought up every edition of the first run the book was later. vetted released to the new york times actually did a side by side and you can see the significant editing of minute details that obviously didn't put any want to risk but oftentimes the vetting process is used to review to remove embarrassing information not a thing that really hurts national security but there are things that we've done that we're not particularly proud of and if we can like to try to keep those quiet and we actually have tony shaffer on the program quite frequently he's kind of showed us and talked about his book and some detail so let's talk about this book in particular if they didn't have it vetted they had it vetted through what they say is their legal analysts but why is it why is that on enough well this specifically says i'm assuming the agreements that mr bissonnette signed are very similar to the ones i signed and it explicitly states that anything related to your
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activities while you're read into these secret programs that you will submit in advance not done it myself i wrote an article that i submitted to the cia for their review waited a few days and got it back and didn't have any problem. mr bissonnette and his folks chose not to do that there is nothing in the agreement says you can substitute two you think is an adequate proxy to review the work so i think he clearly understood what he was doing was wrong the department of his general counsel jay johnson sent a letter last week to mr bissonnette into penguin books explaining that it appeared he was in violation of the agreement and nonetheless they elected to to move forward and they say that there's nothing classified in these books they say that there isn't there's no problem with them i mean the co-author signed on and he has written four books in the past for very well known books he's been known as a well known journalist so if there's nothing classified why not submit to the
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pentagon's oh it's hard to imagine discussing anything related to the raid that resulted in osama bin laden's death other than. i was there it happened that wouldn't be classified. and i think there's an abuse of the classification system in a lot of things that shouldn't be classified or but it's hard to imagine least from my experience of my involvement with detainees at guantanamo the level of information that's classified is hard to imagine mr bissonnette other than acknowledging he was there that may be about the extent of what you could say without getting into classified and i haven't read the book but it is hard to imagine it being more than a page long without getting into some classified information and apparently the pentagon george little the pentagon spokesman this afternoon said that it was highly irresponsible that they've reviewed the book now and that it does contain information that they consider to be classified some of the next steps or right and just taking a bigger look back at these nondisclosure forms when you sign away your basically
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your freedom of speech with these nondisclosure forms how far do they go how how long into the future is it before you can speak of what you did and take credit for what you did in the military or there is no time limit if you're talking about what you did while you were involved in classified programs without advanced authorization you're not permitted to talk about it now interestingly the you know the obama administration has been pretty free in talking about you know drone strikes in the death of bin ladin the computer attacks that shut down the earliest hampered iranian nuclear program so they've been kind of fast and loose and letting information out embarrassing information on the other hand has been a little slow to get out how that process would have gone had mr bissonnette asked for permission and. remains to be seen and i guess we won't know that mr bissonnette book comes at a quite interesting time in politics right now he of course says that his book is not political but of it is september elections are in november so not that far away
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so let's actually i want to play you a quick sound bite from the sixty minutes interview that he did and then we'll come back and talk about it. this book is not political whatsoever and those present proud mouth either party and we specifically stroh's supreme or eleventh to keep it out of the politics you know if these crazies on either side of the aisle want to make it political shame on them this is a book about. cover eleventh at each breast forms of cover up with not be brought into the political arena because this has nothing to do with politics so you heard him there say has nothing to do with politics he actually went on in that sixty minutes interview to explain that not only were a lot of the seals that he worked with opposed to president obama but one of them actually made a comment when they got back from the raid saying we basically got him reelected so
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there's no way around it it's political right yeah you're right there's no way to avoid it in fact if you've noticed in the last twenty four hours vice president biden out on the campaign trail their slogan he said they had to put on bumper stickers now is thanks to barack obama osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive so this is clearly at the heart of the election and one of the consistent critiques of democrats is they're a bunch of wimps they're weak on national security so for the president it's kind of a conundrum here on the one hand it's good to have the public reminded that he was responsible for the death of osama bin laden on the other hand you know president obama has been six people indicted into the espionage act john kiriakou who also wrote a book from the cia tom drake from in a say. there's been twice as many people indicted by the obama administration for leaking information or allegedly leaking information than in every other administration combined so to not do anything people are going to say that that's
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to help his reelection effort and if he does something they're going to say is to try to quiet. you know somebody who's telling the truth so it's kind of a no win situation for the obama administration coyness an interesting disparity saying you know they are going after these westwards we've actually reported on carioca as well quite a bit so let's talk about what could possibly come out of this i mean right now what we're hearing is that all the profits for a vote are going to go to follow fallen warriors families here in the u.s. and i know that the justice department is pursuing possibly a civilian case that would leak into the profits what good can come out of prosecuting him expression in a civilian court well i think like many of these cases where there have been charges brought even they've been dropped in state chilling effect not so much the effect on mr bissonnette but don't the next marc bissonnette to come along does he talk or not talking with this key people and you know quiet to keep information out of the public domain and at the same time i mean like you said earlier democrats
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are afraid of being touted as not you know not hands enough when it comes to national security so if they don't do something will it hurt them. well i think it will is again there is no graceful way out of this for the democrats or for the obama administration that they do nothing then the critics are going to say well you want to set for mation out there to remind the public as they go to the polls if you authorize the death of osama bin laden if they try to prosecute then it's going to be you're trying to shut down another whistle blowers time trying to tell the truth and i just don't see a real graceful way to dance around this issue and i mean look let's talk about so we are kind of touched on it earlier but let's talk about the fact that you know there they've been they say that there is some classified information but these think at this point they're looking for classified information anything to punish somebody who they didn't want to speak out i think they are. i mean they're still information classified it going ton of it from people that have been in our custody
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for eleven years as you mentioned the osama bin laden raid was just a little over a year ago so the information is much more fresh than the information that some of the detainees at guantanamo have which they are still safeguarding and protecting so it is a said before i think it's hard to really imagine discussing the events that took place that night without talking about tactics and techniques in information that could potentially be useful to an adversary so i think they are probably coming through the book again right now looking to see what they can do with that information what if anything right right so just talking about guantanamo bay for a minute let's take a look at the d.n.c. platforms from two thousand and eight until today so back in two thousand and eight they wanted to i mean president obama touted if he was going to close guantanamo bay no matter what it took he signed an executive order on time away is still open you are an expert on one title race let's look at the guantanamo bay twenty twelve
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d.n.c. platform it says that is why we are reforming military commissions to bring them in line with the rule of law that is why we are substantially reducing the population our guantanamo bay without adding to our. it and we remain committed to working at the branches all branches of the government to close the prison altogether because it is inconsistent with national security interests and our values a little bit different of a narrative from two thousand and twelve from two thousand and eight they were saying they were going to close it and now they're kind of saying oh you might not quite as many prisoners and eventually will close it they talked about that yeah it's kind of one of the you're called the george bush the elder had his read my lips moment where he said read my lips no new taxes remember president obama's lips moving saying i'm closing guantanamo which was in two thousand and eight and we're sitting here in two thousand and twelve so he didn't keep his promise i mean this is one where there's no quibbling about did he say it or did he not he said he was going to close guantanamo he acknowledged it's a blight on our national reputation and he caved in to the fear mongers on the
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other side and didn't want to look like well and so he's kept it open and it's remains of like today in fact attorney general eric holder a week or two ago in an interview with bloomberg said that he regrets abandoning the decision back in zero nine when the pressure mounted that we could have had these trials in federal court they would have been over by now they would have been safe and secure and it would have been a credit to our reputation rather than the continuing blight that we've got now a lot for the d.n.c. to talk about this week and whether that you know everything from president obama's re-election campaign to maybe closing guantanamo bay and this book so thank you so much for joining the program colonel morris davis retired air force attorney and professor at howard university school of law a pleasure. still ahead on our team it's the democrats' turn to gather and rally support around their candidate for the presidency but the pro-union democratic party is taking some heat for holding the convention and antiwar per state more when we come back.
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here is mitt romney trying to figure them they saying that your motives paul. far left the usa to defeat terrorism. there are terrorist cells in your
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neighborhood. the only and the christian. folk all going to hold. public services because you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven industry that sells us from facials to garbage he calls it breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break this back.
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all right well yesterday was labor day here in the u.s. a holiday that started in one thousand nine hundred two by union workers as a celebration of workers' rights and a protest to twelve hour work days and little pay these days labor day marks the end of summer and at times a pole to put away those white pants and shoes but for many in the u.s. the struggle for workers' rights continues waxed week we heard several speakers of the r n c tell their success in busting unions. voters in wisconsin got to determine who was in charge was it the big government special interest in washington or the hard working taxpayers of our state the good news is that on june fifth the hard working taxpayers one we did a president who won't sacrifice american jobs and american workers to pacify the bullying union bosses he counts is political our eyes real teacher tenure reform
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that demands accountability and ends the guarantee of a job for life regardless of performance he said it would never happen but for the first time in one hundred years with bipartisan support you know the answer we did it. as you heard the struggle for organized workers is as strong as ever but it may be a losing battle today union membership in the private sector is the lowest it's been since the one nine hundred thirty s. and then there's this if you take a look at this map the states that are green are the right to work states twenty three in total along with the territory of guam right to work meaning that the state can prohibit agreements between labor unions and employers from requiring employees to have a membership pay membership dues to unions or pay fees as a condition of their employment meanwhile president barack obama can contribute
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much of his success in the past four years to organized labor so it's interesting then that the democrats chose north carolina as a place to host this year's d.n.c. convention and this has some very some unions very upset r.t. correspondent lives while brings us their story. the site of the twenty twelve democratic national convention is also home to the least unionized state in the nation there's another story to be told that's the story of the people were continually going through the decision to hold the convention in charlotte as one some union members and labor activists find offensive of president obama and of them accredit party cared about the working class and unions in this country there's no way they would have had the their convention here all north carolina has some of the harshest anti union laws in the country it is even legal here for workers to collectively bargain with the democratic national convention in town workers want to bring attention to what they see as an attack on workers' rights in
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the south. and signed a wedge with baptist church a call to organize the sounds a lot of the right to work laws a lot of the anti collective bargaining laws emanate from the southern region north carolina is a so-called right to work state a law which bans certain union security agreements many states with such laws are in the south workers here say it leaves a lot of years of workers' rights their existence is that almost of a slave or sharecropper and i know that might sound like an exaggeration to many at home but but the conditions that they actually work in that exist and are pretty much the same they were from sun up to sound sundown for little to no money have no protections no health insurance labor unions have historically been an ally to the democratic party donating over eight million dollars toward the two thousand and eight democratic convention but staging the d.n.c. in a city that's not union friendly has turned some bankers off to the party entirely
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this sends a signal and is obvious and makes it clear still clear that the democratic party is controlled by the banks and corporations still others remain cautiously faithful at this point we don't have the alternative and we certainly mitt romney is not someone that i will be did fly we. charlotte north carolina. now whether or not organized labor will be a major talking point at the d.n.c. remains to be seen but joining me now for a preview of the convention is our t. correspondent lives wall in charlotte hey their lives so a lot of controversy surrounding the venue why north carolina. that's exactly yes mag and a lot of controversy surrounding the decision to hold a democratic national convention right here in charlotte as i mentioned in that report charlotte is one of the twenty three right to work states look beyond that charlotte also has some of the harshest anti union laws in the country and of
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course a huge event like this attracting scores of delegates and members of the media descending upon charlotte and staying at hotels and the hotels here happen to not be unionized so a lot of union members not happy about that which could pose a president a problem for president obama because back in two thousand and eight they donated more than eight million dollars to his campaign so they were he and getting president obama elected this time around a lot of union members that i spoke to say that they're not willing to dish out the dough for president obama's campaign and are critical of the fact that he would choose charlotte such in a place that is not hospitable seeming and to hold this venue another thing that makes charlotte's controversial is that it is known as the it's the second largest banking headquarters in the united states second only to wall street of course in new york city so that's why protesters have dubbed charlotte as wall street of the
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south and on sunday they staged a protest organizers say over fifteen hundred people showed up organizing protesting against some of the same grievances that we saw during the occupy wall street movement started at a party park spread across the country we're hearing some of the same grievances here in charlotte north carolina where they do the wall street of the south and live we know that they are in fear was well prepared to handle protesters that ended up being pretty anticlimactic with the protesters and police kind of getting along what's it like down there with security like. well i'm going to say for the most part the big event in terms of protesting was on sunday fifteen hundred people showing up protesting as far as i know the protests have remained peaceful i think i only heard of one arrest but i can say that the security here is very heavy handed we have local police force we have the f.b.i. we have the cia we have homeland security even getting here to the venue to do this
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report was was a disaster we were stuck in traffic doing circles blockades everywhere to actually get into into the venue there was a. corps of police officers literally creating a barricade with her with her with their bicycles blocking in circling the convention center so definitely protesters even if they wanted to they're on a very tight leash charlatan and his anticipation of this event enacted some laws to prevent protests from from getting out of control they sell the so called free speech zone where protesters are not happy about that it's quite far from from the actual center. of the of the actual event the designated free speech zone and some protestors i spoke to say you know what all of america is supposed to be a free speech zone office small courtyard off area and this abandoned parking lot
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where we were allowed to voice our free speech but for the most part. hasn't gotten too crazy but i absolutely would describe the security as a very very heavy handed and liz there's a lot of hawkish talk about foreign policy at the orange sea with many of the speakers notably secretary of state secretary former secretary connelly the rice taking a hard line against iran and preaching the me importance of the u.s. standing by its traditional ally israel relations between obama and prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we have been strained to say the very least you think we'll see some of that repeated at the d.n.c. . well it's hard to tell we saw the republican national convention foreign policy say mostly off the table until we heard from from john mccain and congolese are right in there and they're hawkish speeches. trying to ramp up support to for military intervention inside
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syria and also cracking down on iran it's hard to tell whether or not that is going to be a big talking point here at the democratic national convention what i can say though as last night. late last night the democratic national convention released their platform which basically lays out the vision for the democratic party and also what they see as accomplishments and they did mention. they did reiterate the president. his his allegiance or his dedication to nurturing strong ties with israel of course this is something both parties it's a bipartisan issue everybody wants to. portray themselves as a friend and ally of israel and president obama did say in this platform the president has worked with congress to increase security assistance to israel every
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single year since taking office providing nearly ten billion dollars in the past three years so of course areas trying to. reiterate his his allegiance to the country. walling off thank you so much for your reporting and we can't wait to hear more from charlotte thank you. capital account is up next on our team let's check in with laura lister to see what's on today's agenda warren welcome back from vacation what do you got today thank you megan well the big news is that yes we are back in the saddle after two weeks off and we have a great lineup for you bob english is a guest who that is zero hedge contributing editor he's usually in miami today marking the special occasion of capital account being back on here he is in studio to talk about the fed to talk about central big action and inflation and the missing link of shadow banking that people maybe aren't factoring in all right lauren can't wait to hear what you've got for us also going to stay to meet your coffee nuts hopefully but that's going to do it now for the news for more on the
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