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a bus explosion in tel aviv brings the confrontation with gaza to the heart of a zero with former y. balls hamas and fatah about reportedly claiming responsibility. doesn't always rate is trying to solve the occupied territory take the forty counts in gaza over one hundred forty eight destroying the lifeline tunnels and government building. on the u.s. declares unwavering support for either offsets thinking eighty one resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions over the impartiality of what. this
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is and see coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program the harsh reality of war is being felt in tel aviv today where abbas explosion has left fifteen people injured already labeled a terror time to explosion is said to have taken place near the israeli army's headquarters israeli authorities are now hunting for two people thought to be involved in the bombing policy have reports not far from where the blast took place . now the police have told us that what they think happened is that one of these two placed a bag with a bomb on the bass and then immediately ran off the whole of tel aviv is in shutdown the schools all closed children are being prevented from going home because there's also growing concern that they could be a second blast or potential second suicide bombing that is being planned now it was widely anticipated that such a blast could happen not to say that people here are not shocked but there has been warnings issued for the past few days by both the police and the army for people to
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be extra vigilant that they are receiving bet that the police have been receiving threats of terror at the same time we do understand that the martyrs brigade which is the military wing of fatah has claimed responsibility or though the blast has been welcomed by hamas through the al aqsa television a mass has said that this is a victory from god they say that they believe this operation and that it is the natural reaction to israel's killings and operations in gaza city there are also people celebrating and dancing in the streets of gaza certainly this was the reaction when the news first came through that a bus bombing had happened in tel aviv the last time that there was a bus bombing in this country was back in two thousand and six so it certainly does seem to have the effect of two peed in the car and cease fire talks on the way the hopes of any kind of cease fire deal now been reached certainly not today seem to have been we haven't yet had any reaction from the israeli government but no doubt that the action when it comes is going to be harsh and increasingly it does seem
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now that instead of moving ahead with a ceasefire we're going to be moving ahead with an israeli ground operation the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton has finished a meeting with the palestinian president mahmoud abbas and she's on her way back to jerusalem and it is significant that when she met with him that meeting lasted a little less than an hour there were no statements given afterwards by comparison when she landed here yesterday and we've had the israeli prime minister there was a press conference held at the. a press conference clinton did just that did say that washington support for israel was rock solid and she's now in a way back to brief natanya who in terms of the latest talks but this briefing comes in the light of this tel aviv suicide bombing which has been confirmed to have been a terrorist attack by the israeli authorities so no doubt that briefing might take a very different way and a very different route to perhaps what continue intended in the early hours of this morning. the israeli offensive in gaza and as that second week with the by raj of missiles from seized told devastating the area more than one hundred forty people
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have been killed many of them civilians and according to girls a base journalists harry fear those who try to report the conflict are also being targeted. gazans don't expect to see a cease fire they remember all too well the operation cast lead and what's happened in the last twenty four hours resembles increasingly. the reports of white phosphorus destroying of the bridge that connects middle north gaza with the south of gaza the isolation of the south of gaza israel has intensified the pounding of gaza particularly the targeting of governmental and police buildings in the biggest police station was totally leveled causing structural damage to nearby buildings some of the biggest governmental structures in gaza city were targeted including the biggest civil service building here in gaza. in the southern area of the gaza strip was targeted heavily overnight particularly the smuggling tunnels which gazans called the survival smuggling tunnels israel killed three media workers
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shorthand journalists two of them a cameraman for the t.v. channel another for the educational television channel according to israel these stations that these media workers work for are not legitimate journalistic enterprises and therefore susceptible to being targeted at any time so israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. and for more analysis on began. life in tel aviv i'm now joined live by a retired i.d.f. mary on isn't an issue of the international divide that of former israeli prime minister olmert mary thank you very much indeed for your time it's great to have you on the program so we've seen more than a week of israel's bomb bomb into gaza so does the fatah going to they've come as a surprise to you. i think what we're saying today is part of the overall hamas plan israel has been trying as hard as we can to both defend
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ourselves against the hamas terrorists based in gaza and israel has constantly said that what we want to see is defense for our people and i think you've seen over the last week in addition to the people killed in gaza and in israel is the fact that israel is defending on all fronts the attack here at the heart of tel aviv is something that could be expected but have you put up the pictures of the joy both in the gaza strip in the west bank throughout the arab world over a terrorist attack in the heart of tell them yes and with a terrorist try king right in the middle of a zero k. think hey do you think that they israel's government that if that might put israeli civilians in even more danger. i don't think that gaza civilians are in danger from israel i think that gaza civilians and i'm a mother myself are in danger from the hamas when israel tries to find both the
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terrorists there the rocket piles there we send out leaflets we send them letters we send out as seven s. messages we tell them beware we're about to attack and that's when i don't need to try to find he is writing a piles and here we are in the heart of tel aviv yes but right after a bit of paper he goes that i sort of they all have their legs it's all the. yeah there are no bones showed as. israel has prevented the hamas from building strongholds and you have people in the gaza strip in you know very clearly that their rocket singh gaza we've seen a thousand fired over the last week we know that they've smuggled in thousands of more where do you think they are why do you think that we are trying to both find them they didn't put them in the middle of a military barrack a. they're here they've placed them in the heart of the urban communities and i'm
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very proud of the fact that although they're firing them out we have tried to be so exact it is very sad every person who is killed it is sad but i most definitely look at the hamas terrorists and i say stop hiding behind civilians make sure that when you do so you do so clearly don't come and kill our civilians they're targeting them everywhere both with the rockets with the bomb attack again three hundred meters from where i'm seated right now four hours ago and you are an agency in gaza has denied recent allegations it made by the idea that palestinian militants use if that's what it is to fire rockets into israel so doesn't this incident and to mine the credibility of a israeli statement that hamas hides behind its own people. i actually listened to both you you to other reporters reporters in the gaza strip who have reported themselves where they have seen the operatives including within the building that
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israel attacked that have both journalists and they said afterwards that they saw within three palestinian islamic jihad just inside the building itself when you go in and you ask around hamas inside the gaza strip and i for moment don't think that it is easy to be in gaza it is not but in the gaza strip right now hamas themselves rule they took responsibility they have base themselves in the hospitals in the mosques in and around the different sites they are the ones who should both take the responsibility and not just try and blame everybody else for what's going on you or the advisor to lead who initiated operation conflict four years ago around fifteen hundred people were killed about half a tank still continued do you think operation pillar of cloud will be more successful. i think that we have a serious issue when it comes to both the terrorists in the gaza strip to the stockpiling to what's been going on there over the last seven years ever since israel left all of the gaza strip nobody said that this is an easy situation i
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think that we both sides need to think carefully of what we do in the meantime to me it's very clear that as a state we have the full right to defend ourselves my children both here in tel aviv my friends and my family are down in the south and i think that we have the full right to stop the rockets from coming and it can't be that the definition of the rules of the game is that the terrorist organization is allowed to fire rockets on a daily basis you know you know that from the beginning of this year seven hundred rockets were fired into israel not into the west bank this is about israel proper that's almost to a day until this week just in this week a thousand rockets doesn't israel have a right to defend itself against these rockets that are placed all purpose in the heart of the urban areas we have but we're just talking about disproportionate is there a disproportionate. disproportionate response that's what we're talking about also
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many nations in the region such as egypt tunisia and other arab nations have already said that israel would face consequences if it continues to pound gaza if the government ready to face the wider fallout. i'm very proud of the fact you live i live in a country with a responsible government that have built protection for their citizens i think that that's something that you should admire and not criticize my people here my children my eight year old knows that when a siren goes off he goes and he runs into a protected area we've invested in the we've taught people what to do with these we have an early siren i actually don't think that the criticism on that level is something that should be against us the fact that we give good protection and thus a thousand rockets that came in over the last week all only killed seven people is something that we should be proud of not criticized for right but why don't. why doesn't don't israeli and israeli army and officials use your defense shield.
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i mean if instead of instead of think that we should help. should we be helping the hamas to remove don't know i'm just i'm not talking about ads i just don't have any but i see how the wait for a zero to maintain order and security and preserve it fate had a but. bloodbath and killing of thousands of people that's what i'm talking about. you i pray would like you to notice that you yourself just said that over the last week one hundred forty people have been killed i would like you to go out and please check carefully how many of those are hamas palestinian islamic jihad terrorists who with their rockets how the palestinians bring out their names and i say that when i know killer early that there are civilians that have been killed in my heart goes out for every single one i think that the hamas should be very careful about what they're doing and we will continue to make sure that we defend
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ourselves and the only way that we can do so right now is to stop them from firing these rockets where they're firing them from the different ideas of what to do in the future that's what's being discussed both in egypt there needs to be a negotiation process between israel and the palestinian authority you mentioned mahmoud abbas before he's an important figure we need to get forward without we're all for that but we all know that mahmoud abbas right now in ramallah does not represent the hamas in the gaza strip the hamas in the gaza strip for the last four years have fired rockets for the last seven years have fired rockets don't we have a right to defend ourselves against those rockets all right mary i did not inform our idea of kind of formal international vi that form and only thank you very much indeed larry. and patrick having such a political analyst for the u.k. economy things that some members of the israeli government are eager to radicalize the conflict even further. look at the overall dynamics here that because if you
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put pressure on any area or group you will eventually it will radicalize so the radicalization of a mosque really suits the hard right in israel it's a bit of a galeon dialectic so you know the people who want conflict with palestinians and want to keep the status quo they actually prefer to deal with a radical hamas that do have a more gentle sort of political adversary in palestine doesn't suit the hard right in israel so this is a equation that has a very bad outcome in the end but it serves the interests of certain a minority within the israeli leadership gaza is probably the world's largest open prison with the most amount of people are densely populated area the poverty level is extreme so this would be the equivalent of the prison warden clamping down on a prison riot or something to this effect it's like shooting fish in
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a barrel as hillary clinton travels across the middle east an effort to mediate a ceasefire at those last secretary of state has made it clear that israel has america's by all kinds on a greater a had have countries and wavering support for tel aviv that also called for a day escalation of the conflict in order to protect civilians but has also has gone nuts to count reports now it's not. the crisis in the middle east probably like no other crisis reveals the double speak of u.s. foreign policy the us basically gave a green light to any of their actions with regards to palestinians and israel has been taking advantage of that quite extensively because as president obama explained there is no country on earth would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders makes complete sense nobody should but one may ask what about all those countries that the us has bombed iraq afghanistan pakistan yemen and others or is it that when you refer to civilian deaths as
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collateral damage somehow killing civilians sounds more justified when it comes to the dungeon situation you usually hear u.s. officials speak along these lines of course in a conflict like this civilian casualties are inevitable but the u.s. is not always like that when the government was killing civilians the us stood first to sympathize with the innocents there in most graphic terms but it appears in washington sympathy for suffering tenby selected this is hillary clinton on syria the shooting death of a one year old recently by the syrian regime's tanks and troops. is a very stark example of what is going on. one may ask what about those horrible shots of children dying gaza is somehow a less stark example of what's going on it seems america's world police mindset and standing up for the weak thing doesn't apply to palestinians instead we hear the
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same mantra from u.s. officials that israel has the right to defend itself which effectively implies that in the eyes of washington the killing of civilians in gaza is justified the u.s. has most recently blocked the un security council statement calling for a cease fire in the israeli gaza conflict. statement on balanced against israel just as the u.s. has blocked all other palestinian related un resolutions in the past whether it was on israel continuing to build settlements on occupied territories or other initiatives put forward to ease the years long suppression of the people there by blocking all efforts of the international community to mediate a solution washington contributes to the status quo and the status quo here is that the root causes of the crisis have not been addressed and is the root causes remain any ceasefire looks temporary there was a major israeli assault on gaza four years ago to more than a thousand people did not solve the problem so one may argue the status quo almost
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guarantees that the cycle of violence will continue. to will continue our coverage of the blood between israel and hamas after a break. on the march under god these men and women are walking one of the longest and probably the loneliest road in the world they reenacting march into exile made by thousands of czarist russia. if i was here three hundred years ago i may have disappeared my local lord may have deserted from the army or a variety of other crimes the result was the same what my fellow prisoners around me i've got a long and very cold walk ahead into exile in siberia yet it took them years to get there summers and winters entire years
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a lot of people died on the way this group in the western siberian region of omsk discovered they're living on the only surviving stretch of the original nine thousand kilometers of the siberian exiles track that's had no modern changes made to it yevgeny discovered that he's descended from some of these exiles and decided to build a museum telling a story he and his re-enact has now received as it has from all over the world to show them what it was like well before you can use that it's scary to put the shackles on of course but it's interesting if we don't remember our history we will have no future. it's a monument to one of the restructures cruelest chapters. the city serves as the capital of anticommunist white russian leader admiral culture shock in the civil war from one thousand nine hundred to nine hundred ninety whilst in residence he lived here though the study of the man like the maintenance of this building has remained a taboo right up until the present day or we still receive hate mail saying that he
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hanged a lot of people and was famous for severe punishment it's all true but it was at a time of civil war both sides were monstrously cruel it is sadly the theme of cruelty which links so. much of history to the rest of russia's particularly of exile where they were. this is all see welcome back and let's go to our top story again israel's the bomb and of gaza shows no letup despite talk of a pending cease fire but the current standoff between israel and hamas goes beyond deadly at times and diplomatic one goes even spreading to the internet only the next here shots cakes play. the latest military conflict in the gaza strip may go down in history as the first war ever declared on twitter the official account of
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the israeli defense force announced the start of the pillar of defense operation and one of those literally told the enemy to run and hide but later hamas had their say using similar war rhetoric this exchange has been retreated thousands of times since and numbers do matter on twitter through hits likes replies and retreats more people than ever before turned to social media and the question is who is winning this online warfare and numbers speak for themselves according to the hashtags dot org website the gaza under attack crash tag is ten times more popular than israel under fire pray for gaza is twenty times more popular than pray for israel and gaza hash tag is almost twice as popular as israel in a nutshell this is the battle between a heavily funded state propaganda machine and citizen journalism from the outside looking israel's content is better produced more colorful shiny and glossy take
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these banners for instance which were posted on i.d.'s official facebook page how mars has also been manning the information war trenches some say clumsily as these tweets may suggest but the effect of social media boom on young palestinian activists in changing public perception of the palestinian israeli conflict has been huge younger as the residents regularly rush to hospitals and take and upload photos and videos of tragedy and inhumanity and some of the pictures have become symbolic of israel's disproportionate use of force the graphic and vocal message in those tweets is perhaps the reason why palestinian citizen journalism is proving more effective and why israeli social networkers simply cannot compete with the content coming out of gaza where this first war started on twitter can become the first war lost on twitter is a question but one conclusion seems evident enough israel has not grasped the destructive power of social media as tightly as it's holding the people of gaza in
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its grip. and earlier i talked to this spokesperson for the israeli prime minister's office on excel scare and he says that the bombing campaign against gaza was aimed at bringing peace and safety to israeli citizens we see the risks from gaza hamas terrorists they target only civilians and this see a victory when the innocent people but why don't you till but it will years already hamas terrorists fire rockets and our civilians on low and no civilians in. the israeli government decided that we have to stop these attacks in our civilians and our children and our elders and that's why we target and we must stop these attacks and we really. need for the right army invasion we really hope it will be done by diplomatic and. of course you insist it's simply responding israel
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simply responding to attacks against hamas but let's take a look at some figures more than seventy palestinian civilians killed in the past seven days there were thirteen israelis have died in iraq rocket attacks actually from gaza since the last major israeli operation four years ago israel government's response disproportionate it's definitely big numbers and we do and we do know as this is the. continue hiding behind civilians so please if you think that it must start so we call upon all the international community and we call upon everybody who really doesn't want this violence first of all to pressure on terrorist organization to stop this violence and to call upon them not to use civilians we just want safety for us. and we're keeping our fingers on the piles of all developments in the middle east by line check out our live updates section at auntie dot com for all the latest.
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moving on now leaders of syria's kurdish population the country's largest ethnic minority have rejected the western backed rebel coalition earlier at several islamist groups and they will go into grade their own state and want nothing to do with the blog so that as britain joined france in recognizing the opposition coalition as the sole legitimate voice of the syrian people the european union has given viable backing to the rebel blog but only two e.u. nations officially recognize the group figure i says the coalition must first prove its unity and to whether its predecessor was plagued by infighting and accusations of radicalism but it has also pledged one million pounds of communications support to the rebels peace activists dream branch as they say isn't too different from
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supplying them with weapons the u.k. interference is clearly based on the principle that they will decide who should our own sean not be the government of syria and on all bases of historical president some acceptable to the british government mistake and to using words in a very peculiar way in recent years for use words like norm lethal aid and you know warfare is the sword in the shield all kinds of war for art form antiquity to have been the sword in the field if you provide a better shield that's not a defensive thing because you put the field means that you will sort of mournfully . to some other international news and review now amnesty international has been done in the rain saying the country hasn't delivered on promises to improve its human rights record a report claims the gulf kingdom has quieted down even harder on protesters
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following last year's anti government uprising public rallies and gatherings have been banned there are ongoing reports of torture the bahraini authorities say after waiting violence has forced further clampdowns. to suicide bombers have a target a u.s. base in afghanistan's capital kabul killing two are going to god's their parent may try to reach their gaze but detonated their devices one police spotted them local reports say the taliban claimed responsibility for the target of all trying to be five the city's security ahead of a holy day this week. and in a few minutes violence against women in afghanistan and the future hold for an attempt to stop it. mushers that so much given to a huge musician apparently finding the mark when the carnage continues in gaza and israel claims its bombardment of the gazans is in self-defense at the same time
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