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just over a week after aaron swartz took his own life the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks reveals it had ties to the computer prodigy was this part of the reason for swartz's harsh prosecution we'll discuss we will close the guantanamo bay detention camp to determine how to deal with those who've been killed there it was one of the strongest pledges candidate obama made before his first term and four years to the day after making that promise again as president i want on him obey detention facility remains open why is why this facility remains open with a former gitmo official. web exclusive web producer andrew glegg travels all the way to new zealand to catch up with mega upload creator kim dot com his newest
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internet adventures and the latest on his extradition case coming up. good evening it's tuesday january twenty second eight pm in washington d.c. my name is christine you're watching our t.v. . i do want to start with the news out of texas this evening several hours ago shots rang out on the campus of lone star college in houston now reports indicate that the shooting occurred between two students in the school's academic building three people have been injured and a fourth person is reported to have suffered a heart attack according to federal law enforcement and one of them is now listed in critical condition the lone star college has released a statement online via twitter the says lone star college confirms that the shooting was the result of an argument between two individuals the statement also
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confirmed that three were wounded the school wrote quote the danger has been mitigated and the situation there is under control so the lone star college campus along with nearby public schools were placed into lockdown mode police have one suspected person of interest in custody there are reports that the second gunman is on the loose still not but not on school grounds now we're going to bring you the latest as the story developments maybe we'll have some more information for you tomorrow. there are new questions being raised following the death of internet activist and reddit co-founder aaron swartz the twenty six year old young young man was found dead in an apparent suicide in his new york apartment just over a week ago swartz was the target of an investigation by the u.s. attorney's office in massachusetts accused of breaking and entering into an mit storage closet and illegally downloading millions of academic articles and then making them public so it turns out among his many endeavors he may have also been a source to wiki leaks let me just show you the tweets put out by the whistle
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blowing web site they say due to the investigation into the secret service involvement with aaron's words we have decided to disclose the following facts number one aaron swartz assistant wiki leaks number two aaron swartz was in communication with julian a songe including during two thousand and ten in two thousand and eleven and number three we have strong reasons to believe but cannot prove that aaron's worse so swartz was a wiki leaks. source so far we hear leaks is not saying more than that other than to confirm that those tweets were indeed authentic and this is a strange development in the case especially since wiki leaks doesn't usually reveal you know anything about sources or potential sources the information is prompting a whole lot of questions about the extremely aggressive pursuit of swartz by the u.s. attorney's office the u.s. secret service also was involved in this case as well and we imagine there will be much more revealed about aaron's role and relationship with wiki leaks in the coming days. i want to say on the topic of aaron swartz for
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a little longer and also talk more broadly about a cause near and dear to his heart internet freedom to discuss the web producer andrew blake joined me earlier in the studio now andrew just returned from new zealand where he met with internet entrepreneur and founder of mega upload kin dot com you see him there they had a one on one sit down conversation and andrew was able to find out a whole lot more from his perspective about internet freedom and privacy and andrew kind of started off just by reminding us the back story of kim dotcom. bextra conduct actually goes back quite a ways he's been involved in computers in the tech industry for around a decade now but exactly one year ago kim's website megaupload dot com was shut down by the f.b.i. it was a web site with millions of users at one point it was in the top five most visited websites in the entire country and so that's where people can take a large files upload them and send them to friends because you can't really do that over e-mail plus you can pay top money to have a very very strong account so maybe upload
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a few years ago and then last year the f.b.i. coordinator prayed with new zealand authorities on his home in new zealand and rested him put him behind bars for his assets and shut down the site and essentially put his whole career on hold for his whole life on hold he's looking now if he's x. ray to the us and he's convicted here he could spend decades in prison so it's been one year since that whole fiasco went under way and i sat down with him and talked about what's happening to your son so he is in new zealand now and i know that you sort of had a visit just and you just got back and you had the opportunity to talk to him to sit down with him one on one and it turned out he had heard of aaron swartz and knew what had happened talk a little bit about this exchange and how this came up. as you know it was a frequent guest on our team was on at least a dozen times over the last year and he was on one year ago when made up load was shut down but yet he was on to talk about it and you know came recalled and was very grateful that he had you know such a such
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a genuine caring person who was so motivated by you know having an open internet that he was advocating for the release of make up logins you know talking about injustices they were a place here so you know kim in and aaron of course are both in the same industry but. kim is more of an ounce entrepreneur and now he's advocating for online freedoms but you know at one point he made his whole fortune off of being a businessman he was you know comparing himself with there and a little bit at least talking about what they were both striving for in terms of creating an open internet yeah let's hear what he had to say. but let me be clear i'm a businessman ok i started mega upload as a business to make money and i want to live the company i'm an entertainer alright i'm not an schwab's and schwab this my hero he was selfless he is completely the opposite of me but i'm a businessman i'm driven by the success of achieving something in the business
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world ok that's not a crime there's nothing wrong with that. it's a really good dot com just kind of laying it out there being very honest about the difference you know he was in it to make money and he really sees aaron swartz as somebody who was you know did this because it's what he believed in and of course another thing that we had aaron to talk about a lot was some of the cyber security legislation so by the stop by a lot of online piracy act people on the protect ip i think it's going to be really interesting to talk to watch what happens with these pieces of legislation which didn't pass the first time around but what's going to come up the next time around with this new congress we're able to talk to him about that as well yeah i mean we talked around half an hour about a lot of different if you talk about so that we talk about and we talk about mega upload we talked about the new project mego which was just launched over the weekend and you know it came with kind of all over the place and he talked about you know he did start off as a businessman but what happened was after this raid last year he found out that his
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e-mails his correspondence phone calls were all being being wiretapped by different intelligence organizations and although you know he's always been involved in the internet industry only in the past year he really started concentrating about privacy and not piracy as the u.s. government says that that's his is big business so his new project mega is a way for people to share files on line you know once again upload files into someone else but everything is incredibly very very strongly encrypted so that you know the watching eyes of big brother you know whatever government whatever i.s.p. you're send your data through can't necessarily see what. it is you want to share with other people and so jim was talking about you know once i just wanted to make some things that people be able to share files i wanted to be an innovator i wanted to find a way that would be able to get one thing from one place to another easily but over the last year over everything is having he's realized that it's not as easy as just doing that you need to actually find a way to do that securely and to protect yourself because you never know who's watching what you're doing and i think we have another part of that interview that
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we can play. the white house was supporting sopa and only when the masses came together and aaron schwartz i mean he stopped sopa with his efforts he stops when he became a target a political target ok and that's why all these things happened to him there is no reasonable. cost behind going off to young genius like that in the fashion they did it's political and are almost out of time i want to switch gears really quick kim dotcom and anonymous it's a totally different topic here in new anonymous the hacktivist group supported kim dot com for a while they're kind of mounted in these days what's going on a few years ago before megaupload was ever shut down there was a whole other case about something called ninja video is another site where people were able to share files which may or may not have been illegal copyright infringement and that the f.b.i. shut down into video and as we found out of the last couple of months we had was
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into video is operating through mega upload and so a lot of a lot of hackers hacktivists if you want to call people who are loosely with anonymous have called into question kim dotcom is affiliation with the f.b.i. so here's a guy who now is you know adamantly opposed to this whole which china over internet activist it's being launched by the obama administration but just a few years ago he was cooperating with the f.b.i. so anonymous is now calling for a boycott that was not a conference boycott of mega but you know tim was saying that he didn't do anything wrong he was operating his business and when the federal government came to him and asked him to comply with with the search warrant he always assisted the government he was always a good corporate citizen and it just came to bite him in the ass eventually i think the word a snitch is now being is a lot of questions raised a lot of really important things to keep our eyes on here are two web producer andrew blake thanks so much well it was four years ago today that president obama made this promise to the nation we will close guantanamo bay detention of jam and
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determine how to deal with those who have been killed there. well since that time president obama has not only not close guantanamo bay he has twice signed legislation he first promised to veto that makes it much more difficult now for him to ever close get money the national defense authorization act is the pentagon spending bill but it also includes a section that we're strix the executive branch's ability to transfer detainees out of guantanamo be part of that is outlined in section ten twenty eight so he signed a bill that limits his own authority to carry out a promise that he made to the american people there are also sections ten twenty one and twenty two from the two thousand and twelve version of the bill which allowed for indefinite detention of prisoners including those who have never been charged now as far as one of obey itself there are some deep detainees who are believed to be al qaeda fighters only about eight percent of them though the other ninety two percent are not and that's according to the u.s. government and eighty six of them those who have been held they have been cleared
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for release and yet they remain behind bars at guantanamo bay these statistics are part of the reason several hundred people showed up to protest earlier this month on the eleventh anniversary of guantanamo bay and i was there covering that protester spoke to several people there and quite a few of them said you know this is an issue that affects every single american it's international law it's your saw that we don't torture and actually many of us are it makes us less safe then we mistreat people in torture them some military people said this is a great recruiting tool for al qaeda look what they're doing most of brothers in guantanamo and really there it sits as supposed to be about human rights and justice and freedom and this is not in line with those values. so i want to talk more about this anniversary four years to the day of a promise made that so far has been unfulfilled desires about this more i was joined earlier by colonel morris davis currently a professor at howard university school of law previously chief prosecutor at
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guantanamo bay also neil mccabe a senior writer with human events now i first asked colonel morris davis why get no is still open. it's been a lack of will really on the president's part to me i think he was sincere when he took office and four years ago said we're going to close it within one year and we sit here four years later and it's still open it was mentioned yesterday during his inaugural address but just an unfortunate chapter of the just keeps going on and on and the i want to get your take i mean do you think that promise should have even been made in the first place i thought it was reckless i think that he was sort of playing to the crowd there were people who wanted to believe that it was possible to get mo had become sort of a symbol of sort of bad america and president obama always wants to be on the side of sort of nice america but these are these are irregular combatants who have been taken off the field of and they really should be considered prisoners of war you don't put prisoners of war on trial you sort of kick take them off the battlefield until the war is over but you know as we said eighty six of them have been cleared
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for release because not only are they not you know have any affiliation with al qaeda they have been you know cleared good to go and there's just issues putting them back with you know to sending them back to the country that they're from you say it's a symbol of bad america but that symbol is a recruiting tool well i think that there was going to be that recruitment anyway. the alternative really to guantanamo bay is sort of this drone war because the president doesn't want to put anyone else in get mo rather than taking you off the battlefield he'll just attack you with a drone as you're having dinner with your family so i think if the choice is between drones and get mo maybe maybe get most prefer that you know neal said that you know they were taken to guantanamo and they're really essentially prisoners of war we took them to guantanamo to avoid calling them prisoners of war you know if we pick one part of it because those outside the reach of the law we came up with these new classification of unlawful enemy combatants so that the geneva
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conventions wouldn't apply well you know colonel that is it's not so much a new distinction. because they are irregulars they haven't identified themselves as combatants their organizations haven't signed any treaties or conventions so really news are combatants outside the law and whatever we give them a good mo is basically gratis it's just out of our the kindness of our heart we owe them nothing and we'll call that one time of day a symbol of bad america it is also a symbol of a place where torture was known to have taken place now when president bush was in office and quite a bit of information came out about interrogation tactics used called waterboarding when president obama came into office he made it a priority you know to outline. practices like waterboarding i want to play something that he said really quick. under my administration the united states does not torture. so no torture going on really really interesting and this is timely
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and i want to bring it up just over the weekend a one hundred thirty nine page report came out by the united nations outlining that torture in fact does still go on in afghanistan this is a country we're trying to leave you know at the end of next year in the report one and disturbing thing i want to point out it's said many of those tortured to extract confessions were children under the age of eighteen seventy six percent of those children held in fact had reported they had experienced torture or ill treatment so even though this isn't going to happen if it's not going to happen at guantanamo bay it's still going on talk a little bit about more broadly colonel colonel davis about torture and how that is perceived well it's interesting that the theme for the inauguration yesterday was faith in america's future but you can't have faith in the future when you turn a blind eye to the past which is what we've done with torture for the last decade there's been judges have been former bush administration officials other governments that have acknowledged that we torture john mccain is waterboarding is
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torture so acknowledge that we did it we totally ignore responsibility for torture we're a signatory to the convention against torture we led the effort to pass through the convention we passed a domestic torture statute the only person we've ever prosecuted was chuckie taylor for torture he committed in liberia and we've totally ignored our passo you can't really have a future when you pretend the past exist but are any of these people first of all i'm not sure what exactly we're talking about when we talk about torture and ill treatment my guess i mean my guess is that none of these none of these children were hooked up to like electrodes you know there may be loud music it may be they've been kept awake for a long period of time i mean i mean the report outlines specific torture that was done on prisoners in general including hanging people. their wrists for hours by chains beating people on things that most people would consider torture solitary confinement for a ridiculously amount long amount of time this report so that u.s.
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personnel were beating people it's that the torture is still going on in afghanistan i well i would suggest that maybe us purse if we're talking about u.s. personnel i would be shocked if that was going on in afghanistan right now i think a lot of people would be shocked and the second point though is you know these combatants or any of the members of organizations or countries that have signed these anti torture conventions the obligation is on us not on will they have if they haven't entered into that contract anything we do for them is out of the good no i fear as i think that's i think colonel davis has a good point i mean the united states every year puts out a human rights report pointing out why other countries are bad in terms of the way they treat people overall so when the u.s. whether it's here or in other places is you know going against you know putting u.s. military law there there there there is a label of irregulars or guerrillas and this goes back to not just this is you know
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goes back at least one hundred fifty years of the civil war where people who do not identify themselves as combatants who do not behave as regular combatants are not given the same protection as regular soldiers as they are given the common article three status you know the one chose kuantan a mode to totally ignore the geneva conventions and say they were coins they didn't apply they had no rights other than whatever the president chose to give them out of the goodness of his heart the supreme court stepped in and said oh contraire the law does apply and common article three is a baseline for treatment so i'm going to have as you were the chief prosecutor on time of day and you resigned and the main reason you resigned was because you really disagreed with what you were saying is that right it was my policy been for two years we would use of evidence obtained by torture and then. new officials appointed above me to say president bush said we don't torture and he said we don't then who are you to say that we do and to me that was just a line too far to to go into an american court of justice with evidence obtained by
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methods that senator mccain and others say constitutes torture and to use that to convict someone instead of some to death was a step too far for me i mean what do you think about that i mean i just i just first of all with the waterboarding and things like that the actual population of people who are physically waterboard is is very small and the second thing is that what we're calling torture people in their mind they're thinking about you know bamboo stuck under fingernails and people being electrocuted i think loud music people being kept awake i think the normal sort of sort of what we want to say enhanced interrogation but i'll just say enhanced interrogation there is a war going on and where we're trying to get information of people i certainly don't support what they say colonel west did you know pretending to shoot someone in the head for information and in fact i've interviewed a witness of that and i think that sort of obviously there are things across the line but the fact of the matter is you know if you have information in
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a military operation you're not going to decide not to use it because you didn't get it from you know a clean source what do you think looking ahead we talked about the past looking ahead i mean is there any way you think that the u.s. government would be able to eventually shut down guantanamo bay no i think that i i think it should be open forever i'd like guantanamo bay i like the idea of one hundred and i certainly prefer it to the drone war where basically you take a listen to how the president gets a list of americans that he and he basically checks off which ones he's going to attack with a drone missile i think that a lot of people who are about to get droned in the next two or three days were probably prefer to stay here guantanamo bay and what was it you said you've been to guantanamo bay what was your experience there i was in the i was in the u.s. coast guard and that's where name. evil and coast guard personnel go for training i've also very good friends with reservists who have been at guantanamo bay actually at the facility and none of them saw torture and one of them so are any of
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the crazy things i'm sure any of those things that go on probably go on in a certain part just want to put the last question to you arnold davis i mean looking ahead now i mean what would it take and what he who needs to be involved to sort of change the course here i think the president was right yesterday in his remarks he said it's up to him and up to the public a wide range of issues to do stand up and do the right thing you know you didn't talk about guantanamo in the national security issues but put that in the same category the people you know if you condone it when we do it to others then we have no right to complain when people do it so we all need to stand up in insists that we live by the rule of law which he promised yesterday in his speech that we can have security and still uphold our values and the rule of law so it's going to be more than rhetoric it's got to be reality laughing about ok these are i mean it's not like we're dealing with the really what we're talking about guantanamo bay we're not really talking about well these are small some of these people are al qaeda the majority of the great vast majority are not well for somebody who are
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picked up on the battlefield for questioning and were found i think the innocent with all due respect i think that there are countries who want no interest in these people coming back to them and basically saying do not send these people to us that's not that's not how is the situation but we do have to wrap it interesting discussion i think it is very important to get all of these opinions out here because frankly i don't think people are talking about this enough we're tired of colonel morris davis professor currently at howard university school of law also need only cave senior writer for human events thanks guys good to be with you. well there's been a lot of talk lately about big brother constantly watching your every move and there are some who are using the increased surveillance in our society as an opportunity to develop clothes and accessories to help you hide so here's one of the latest items on the market new eyeglasses that thwart facial recognition technology take a look at these glasses make it much more difficult for all those cameras that employ facial reg recognition technology to recognize you those lights you see on
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the glasses are generally only visible to cameras and confuse facial recognition systems so just to refresh your memory facial recognition technology can identify a person using an image or video and is employed by quite a few security systems even facebook to determine who you are so could these glasses distract from other eye where in development sure to make a splash google's augmented reality glasses are essentially a full blown computer that you wear over your eyes with a screen on the lenses how much information right in your face could create privacy concerns of the product is still in development so will it be a duel between the glasses they give you the power to surveil and those that undermine that power well we're going to go ahead and keep you posted on that. one as i go about a story that's making waves within the walls of a library in newark new jersey where people are looking a lot more at the walls lately and they are at the books now artist kara walker has
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often stirred the pot in the past with her frank depictions of race violence and desire throughout history walker calls this work the moral arc of history ideally bends towards justice but just as soon as not curves back around toward barbarism sadism and unrestrained chaos she says the twenty's and painting conjures up the horrors of the reconstruction and jim crow historic periods you can see there in the background the ku klux klan but it's what's in the. foreground that's creating a major controversy here if you look very closely on the right you can see a white man forcing a black woman to perform oral sex on him it is this aspect of the artwork that generated so much controversy when the work was hung up at the library back in november the painting was on loan from a private collection less than a week later some employees of the library requested that the image be covered its provocative images hidden by
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a cloth walker an african-american woman herself has faced outrage from in the past from the black community for some of her quote demeaning representations of african-americans and history this time it seems was no different and walker did respond to the newark library staff concerned she released a statement saying quote i'm sorry that the staff is so put off by the work that they feel the need to prevent others from seeing it and making their own call to look or look away i don't advocate any kind of censorship the promise of any artwork is that it can hold us viewer and maker and it conflicted or contestable space without real world injury or loss that was the artist kara walker now a month later the cloth has been removed and the artwork is back on display at the newark public library so here's a question i mean will it cause library doors to think more about the themes walker depicts interracial violence gender and an american legacy often obscure scared by print patriotism or will they look away in discomfort either way walker's work has
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fulfilled a primary function of art getting people talking. well if you turn on the television you'll hear all about you know the t.v. shows in the movies that have been nominated for awards hollywood is after all smack dab in the middle of award season but the hottest red carpet may not be in southern california pornography fans from around the world have their eyes on las vegas for the a.v.n. or adult video network awards. shows us now why they call it the oscars of porn. designer gowns flashy jewelry and exotic body art this is not your me through award show arrival we can pretty much just do whatever we want to take what they it's off who knows. i'm on the red carpet at the thirtieth annual a.b.n. awards here in las vegas nevada this event is considered to be the oscars of the
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porn industry the most popular names for our year to strut their stuff and to celebrate another year of our word who's jesse jane in our security celebrated some career highlights tonight i'm except in the hall of fame and when i started that was michael i am not only hosting the awards this year i'm nominated for eighteen different categories a.b. and was hoping to get mitt romney to show up i'd like to extend a personal invitation to whoever loses the election to come co-host the a.v.n. awards perhaps the most coveted job in the entire universe in the end the presidential runner up was a no show still politics were on the mind of some porn stars performers took advantage of their time in the limelight to advocate against new called requirements in los angeles it's about removing our liberties and that is about our constitution and you know we overturn the long we're going to stop it from being executed politics aside the weekend of flesh and sin is becoming
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a counterculture phenomenon i just. don't like to do that. based on the world but press coverage and consistent fan base this porn party has a long life ahead in las vegas remember when the r t o ramon he always gets those fun assignments all right everyone and that is going to do it for us here for now this evening but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our team america or check out our website our team dot com slash usa and if you're not already you should follow me on twitter i'm at christine for south have a great night. let me let me respond or not let me ask you a question from. here on this network is what we have in the bank we have our knives out. in the field is the scientists backstage mare's again here in the field.


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