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top stories this. dejected edward snowden could stay in russia for a while now a lawyer involved in the case says an intense u.s. man made the whistleblowers plans could now include russian citizenship. scaring the scots the british government goes on the p.r. offensive telling scottish voters their independence could cost them a heap of problems ranging from lower salaries to bigger phone bills. and photos of western weapons in the hands of pro or sad militias emerge online sparking fears that the us government can't control where its arms are ending up.
nine pm wednesday night here in moscow welcome to if you just joined us this is r.t. international my name is kevin now in our top story then the man who exposed america's global surveillance network may be looking to settle here in russia at least in the medium term edward snowden has been stuck at a moscow airport for three weeks now trapped in a diplomatic limbo. has got the latest on snowden's plans. we've now learned from the lawyer representing mr snowden that russia could become his permanent you home if he does receive temporary asylum it will allow him to live and work freely in russia for one year and after that we are told he might apply for russian citizenship just portions of it he told me that he's going to stay in russia and i do not rule out but he may stay here permanently and become a russian citizen with all the rights and responsibilities while the lawyer added that mr snowden has been down while he's been holed up at sheremetyevo airport over the last three weeks and was very surprised at the intensity of the manhunt but he
says that mr snowden has every chance of getting asylum and says the main reason he has asked for it is because he fears for his own life if he returns back to the u.s. . when asked by immigration service agent why he chose to prostitution in russia and why he came here who replied that he fears for his life and well being and also fears that he could face torture or execution and what he says sounds quite convincing as the u.s. still administers both capital punishment and torture. now edward snowden has also said that he would not release the documents which could damage u.s. interests while he is on russian territory in his words mr snowden has said that is something he can do it is an important point though because president putin has made this a precondition for asylum and he says that in this whole saga it has been russia's role to take a humanitarian stance and the actions it is taking should not be regarded as
hostile towards the us and you also said that mr snowden's actions were actually in defense of human rights as they should not stand up human rights work usually carry some cost for those involved when this work is done under the auspices of the united states government with its financial and political support it's quite acceptable but when someone criticizes washington the situation becomes much more complicated the incident with the bolivian president's plane illustrated this well in the coming days he should receive these documents that will allow him to go through passport control here at this airport and then come through the exit and onto russian soil proper because remember at the moment he does not have a valid passport or visa but these documents should arrive with him we understand within the next five days while his application for a temporary asylum is processed which could take up to three months the next thing is that he would require accommodation is not something he would have to look for
effectively he's probably a man feeling much more at ease this afternoon and it could be a new life and a new chapter for him here in russia. where snowden's asylum request to russia soon to be a stopgap measure if moscow does granted he'll then find himself with room to pursue longer term asylum in south america are to contribute afshin rattansi says it's been a diplomatic nightmare however for everyone involved here. he's applying for temporary asylum presumably so he can just go about his business as a normal citizen walk into the venezuelan embassy in moscow walk into the ecuadorian embassy and fill out forms and papers the obama administration was so quick to just say right we'll see him a non-citizen causing trouble in this way well they didn't just cause edward snowden drabble because most trouble because all sorts of governments trouble notably the bolivian one with of course the hijacking drama took place a few weeks ago they're going to make lots of allegations in the press and you'll
see them in lots of right wing newspaper is that the national security agency is a beacon of freedom and without their ability to surveil your skype account your outlook dot com accounts are in breach of revelations about microsoft the forces stationed in iraq and afghanistan would sustain far more casualties what rubbish we know the american government in the corporate surveillance state is desperately seeking around to prove that they need to be able to be through all of our e-mails all of our phone calls for our own security. the architect spot america's global surveillance network being called in for another round of questioning on capitol hill lawmakers say they want clear answers this time around adding that spying to vis level was never authorized by congress or the reactions than alabama's defense to call. make or break referendum next using london feverish now to try to keep britain together with an anti split campaign that sometimes verging on scaremongering reports next on what
exactly westminster is doing to persuade scots to vote. it's just a very year until scots have to answer a simple yes or no question about whether or not they want to break with the united kingdom the scottish national party says there's absolutely no doubt that scotland has the potential to be a successful independent nation with a strong economy but the british government wants scotland to stay in the united kingdom. i believe that england scotland wales northern ireland we are stronger together than we would. it is time to speak out whatever the consequences because something very special is in danger but sense of danger is one that the british government has recently been accused of playing on too heavily though in the run up to the referendum westminster has been busy publishing papers on how it believes independence will be bad for scotland the latest and most bizarre caution is about
mobile phone bills a new government paper suggests that if scotland breaks away then scots visiting the u.k. and using their phones will need to pay extortionate raving charges the scottish government has already debunked that myth saying that all roaming charges in the european union will be abolished in twenty sixteen but according to whitehall scotland might have to reapply to join the european union as well the british government has also been keen to remind that the royal mail and the post office will no longer be for scotland should they choose independence nor will the two hundred or so public bodies that deal with bureaucratic procedures such as issuing driving licenses managing roads and even broadcasting such as the b.b.c. if all that hasn't put off for any of those considering voting yes in the referendum next year well a recent think tank report has cautioned that an independent scottish army would
struggle to defend itself and what about money well the scots say they'd like to keep the pound something the u.k. chancellor george osborne has been quick to dismiss so if the scots choose independence it could be no pound no e.u. no army high phone bills and not even any royal mail to use as an alternative their piece of cautions have led to accusations that the anti independence campaign is engaging in scurrilous scaremongering what we're getting now is the kind of fear foreigners are managing you can't be part of a single currency union a sterling union if you have independent you can't have this you can't have got no these are big. substantial debating points but it shouldn't be used as a gun to the heads of scores if you vote for and eventually this is going to be a punishment scotland's first minister has already said that the british government so-called project fear isn't going to walk that we go through that to be ever be. a list of will be dismantled with
a couple of disintegrate like dracula and all how more horror film the release of course ends on obscure subjects has reportedly ankit senior figures in the u.k. government by telling on petty issues such as these many say that only giving credence so the scottish nationalists probably break a r t london. has feelings rise over independence in scotland their boiling over in northern ireland right now the police reinforcements been called in to belfast help restore control after five nights of riots across the city the violence began almost a week ago after u.k. loyalists were prevented from marching through mainly nationalist area joining me now is the island correspondent with christian science monitor jason walls hi jason should the authorities have been more prepared for this these orange or parades going every year there's generally always trouble when i called out here in rome yes and no they were. so it's number.
one on. which. was the parades commission right to stop mourners marching the republican area of belfast you think. and that's an extremely difficult question for me down sir because i'm a reporter and also because i'm a native itself myself so i might of all of my you in the states with the consensus of what you're picking up the divides is that traditionally the issue divides along . political lines with republicans agreeing to create should be self unit saying this shouldn't this time there's a lot less support on the union aside a lot of people noise with the orange order you can have so you know from all refusing to properly with. them so i think the orange order. bearing the brunt of the black will talk about the police response you mentioned the number out on the streets but you think the way they dealt with it was effective look at the figures they more than seventy offices have been hurt so far
over sixty people have been arrested that dealt with this data well it's very difficult to say i mean the police between a rock and a hard. if we show any kind of major most of the stream when the when when they're going in with ones that you know aside from the ins and the of this and what they could go on i mean what's interesting is that there was born with this writing as they do every time in our room with working on them. so that they wouldn't use either of those in the beginning because i'm twenty nine eleven right. on the other cities so i think that's an interesting comparison that really doesn't go to local press and is to blame for these riots to think again it's a million dollar question if you probably want to but what are you seeing in the media the proximate cause of this round of writing in. my opinion the orange order however there is a question of rights anyone with a liberal lights would say that the orange order surely have
a right to freedom of assembly to march somewhere even if they're not want to do this is this is the problem that the devils moving on and every year is the same where you know the conflict of rights that wonderful people want to march in another group of people one thing. the orange order marks awsome. ok thanks to talk of the christian science monitor jason was focused. now just who is behind nato hit list for suspected africa to explore that suit it may have been britain's mafia agency coming up we've got a report on an afghan man who's lost half a dozen members of his family says the agency is giving incorrect air strike coordinates interest to the live chat about coming up hopefully plus two egypt's new cabinet comes under scrutiny as it leaves out the muslim brotherhood despite its popularity among a sway the vote is just a couple of stories right after this break.
what drives american foreign policy values or merely interest washington claims it supports democracy as a universal value that makes a glaring exceptions when it suits its geo political purposes and what about the neo conservative agenda is it the genetic code the pax americana. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are.
america and europe may be squarely behind syria's rebels but large numbers of high caliber u.s. and european weapons are circulating among the other side internet images now of shiite militiamen fighting alongside president assad's troops with western arms of emerged fueling the concern that washington won't be able to control where its weapons end up as artie's ghani found. weapons don't discriminate us made arms are now showing up in the hands of iranian backed militias fighting in syria analyst philip smyth points to photos with hezbollah fighters coating us made m. sixteen s and m.
force fitted with laser and holographic sights as well as an two or three grenade launchers how do they go in there and if there's a will there's a way and if you want to get let's say an m. two or three grenade launcher in an employer car being they'll find a way to get it so long as you have the right amount of money and the right amount of for connections it's not clear whether the weapons were captured stolen or bought on the black market this weapon might be ended up in the hands of hezbollah from. military or lebanese army of course illegal but i don't believe that is and so our source could be the source of this weapon iraq. similar u.s. designed weapons appear in the hands of syrian rebels including fighters with all new sort of front and al-qaeda affiliate the us has designated a terrorist group it shows the alarming tendency for the weapons to change hands in unexpected ways but despite this the obama administration has decided to directly
arm the rebels in syria a move supported by washington's hawkesbury and we can give them the heavy weapons that they need who's there who's them i know them i've met them they're there unfortunately for senator mccain some of the rebels he met in syria were kidnappers and his office had to issue a statement saying the senator did not know that when he agreed to do a photo op with them but not everyone in washington thinks flooding syria with more arms is the solution a group of congressmen have introduced the legislation to block an unauthorized u.s. military aid to syrian rebels arguing that the law prohibits any military assistance to syrian opposition forces unless congress issues a formal declaration of war since our nation's security interests in syria are unclear we risk giving money and military assistance to our enemies. there's great ironies supporting the syrian rebels one will be supporting forces that are associated with al-qaeda the two thousand and one use of authorization of force
said specifically that we could go after the taliban al qaeda and associated forces we will now be one of those associated forces because we will be allied with al qaeda against assad the voice of caution comes not only from the president's opposition in congress but also from former administration officials for us to think we can influence or determine the outcome of that i think is a mistake i thought it was a mistake in libya. and i think it is a mistake in syria we overestimate our ability to determine outcomes you may think that the u.s. has learned the hard way that by arming friends you may be arming your enemy but it seems u.s. leaders yet again are ready to take that risk in washington i'm going to take on. trucking muffy or activity and drug trafficking routes that supposedly will bring the serious organized crime agency was set up to do but the unit may have gone well beyond that according to a recently filed lawsuit the agency has compiled lists of fed targeting data to
nato leading to innocent deaths live to us to these tests or so that she's got more on this story that recently broken if this is confirmed what this comes to to a major breach of the law surely. well that's what the lawyers are claiming that's what the legal challenge is all about it's being launched at the british high court on over the accusations that the serious and organized crime agency or soca had been involved in giving information to a nato six so-called kill list and the lawyers are claiming that this would go beyond the powers of the mandate of the agency as it would be it would mean if proven that directly and being involved in a military conflict that could have resulted in someone's death not the bigger case that this revolves around is the case of that afghan man who had lost five of his family members in a nato missile strike in two thousand and ten when there was a targeted strike and what they call issued forces believe that they were targeting an insurgent leader but in fact it was the family of this afghan man said that is
the bigger case that this is a revolver and this is not the first instance where an agency in the u.k. has been reportedly. looting or working with the u.s. authorities on the so-called kill list there is one also reports that british authorities colluded with the americans in obama's the obama administration's so-called disposition matrix another kill a so-called kill list of let's get more insight on this from joe glinted he's an afghan afghanistan a veteran war campaigner thanks very much for joining us today what if proven if if indeed if this is the case that soca had been involved giving information what exactly does that mean i think we have to kind of look at it in terms of a long term narrative and i think there's been since nine eleven there's been this increasing cost of in measurement of of of role between what the police in the military. think that's that's kind of indicative we have to go back we have to look
at and we have to look at terrorism and the issue of terrorism and how that should be and is in my view and i think in the legal view criminal issue not a military one. and yet we've we've seen this kind of breaking down this disintegration of the checks and balances which would normally keep these two things. why is it important to make that distinction between what is criminal a criminal charge a criminal issues and military well i think it would be easy to answer is iraq and afghanistan you can see the devastation which is being caused when when there's been this shift away from what should have been a judicial issue the previous attacks on the twin towers we should recall there was a trial that always tried he was found guilty and imprisoned they saw him it changed our thinking and turned into a military response we invaded several countries on the back of that particular attack and nine eleven became a hook to hang on. and i think when you go down that road as we've seen it's increasingly dangerous and of course it will go wrong and so on that we see here again and this is similar to what we see with the terrorism act two thousand where
police are also able to cross that line. yeah but all i was briefly held under under that very same act for being a pace activist essentially for an extended period bizarrely in a bizarre twist in a fight for speaking out against politically motivated violence i was arrested as a terrorist in effect and so yeah you start when you start to blur the divisions of people's remits it's very very dangerous territory it's very very quickly let's just start on the bigger case that this revolves around and that is possibly a case of mistaken identity how is that even allowed to happen or have a name that is put on the list that someone innocent of course i mean there are so many intelligence is always imperfect there are so many variables as well if you're going to go in and capture someone or kill someone you have to take in human failure intelligence failure technological failure all these kind of drivers i think we need to step away from from that and look at the kind of macro which is why are they doing it anyway why they're actually occupying afghanistan and we have to look at the bigger picture beyond this thank you very much for that well there
you have it the issues being raised here are that of the mixing of the role of certain police agencies and the military and resulting innocent deaths from such cases. egypt's interim president sworn in and. new cabinet dominated by liberal politicians it doesn't include anyone from the muslim brotherhood which propelled the now east of mohamed morsi to the presidency though the islamist group dismissed the cup and its formation its supporters in a pledge of mass demonstrations instead egyptian constitutional expert syed ali told me there will be no come in the country unless all parties are involved in the political process if the brotherhood doesn't participate in the transition process or the revision of the constitution what it would mean is that this new constitution that's going to come out of this process will only represent the liberal and conservative sides of society and won't represents the islamist side of the population so would mean that it won't represent a cross-section of egyptian society and therefore will last for
a long time to come and what it would mean is the wall does end up going from one crisis to another for another period of time instead of disc reforming the constitution without having the brotherhood involved what the ruling authorities should do is that they should really engage in a national dialogue to try to decide what the future of this country should look like and try to get as many major or he's involved as possible and try to get their agreement and this current trajectory will not meet in that direction which is regrettable u.s. laws of self-defense gun control and racism need revamping according to the country's attorney general thousands of rallies across america in the past few days since the quick live george zimmerman the florida man who killed black teenager trayvon martin last year it was ruled to be self-defense even though trayvon was unarmed law professor charles rolls says it's not about race but about gun control . the road to the ease with which you can not only purchase
a weapon but then use that weapon to defend yourself in the state of florida in approximately twenty other states is really what led to this tragedy not the issue of race i prefer to think that what it gets us in the united states to do is to what we as a nation of immigrants always need to do to talk about how we come together and that issue of race is an issue that's always present within the united states and it gives us an opportunity once the emotion is run itself out to talk about this in a way that can be positive for the country in the long term it was not about race it was about self-defense and who was the aggressor race had nothing to do with it but has become synonymous with racial issues within the united states and that's what something takes on a life of its own becomes very difficult to separate them back into what the objective truth is my big. complete change of subject and price now the world student games are coming to a close in the russian city of the host countries overwhelming the lead though in
the medals coachmen so what maad by criticism that moscow has been politicizing the games are to pull scots at the venue now in southern russia not going completely smoothly but overall not a bad effort one of the people. taking part had to say about it if you can hear me . you know i will the weather is done his best to dampen spirits over the last few hours ahead of the closing ceremony of the twenty seventh world university games and by far one of the largest russian estimates say that over seven hundred thousand spectators have descended on within the last fortnight and forty four thousand of them are in the stadium behind me for the closing ceremony which is being attended by prime minister the me three medvedev now the opening ceremony was all about russia and russian culture and what russia has given the world over the years whereas tonight show is a more contemporary affair earlier on today i spoke to one of the hosts about exactly what we can expect. we don't want people to be just
nereus waving hands making noise and something they will be kissing they will be hugging it's going to be a kind of a kissing cam at the same as we have. for example in basketball so it's going to be a big big think it's going to be kind of a mix of thought are neatest things with all this rock n roll stuff it's going to be kind of a big. well russia has dominated the medals table they finished with one hundred and fifty five gold medals to put that into context the nearest rivals china finished with just twenty six now they did amass some criticism from some quarters people suggesting the russians are using professional athletes up against the amateurs for their part russia saying less than ten percent of their squad was made up. by professionals and that everyone was in fact eligible one of the sports in which they dominated women men's and women's discipline was rugby sevens and in the men's discipline the bronze went to great britain. i mean
the russian you see a bit of east don't know where the people. stop in the facilities the transports. everything's been started in all foods it's been really good really impressed with . the blocks are mixed teams. so you get to speak to people in your living areas reroll and some other university courses so i can come again. well russian organizers are keen to stress that this is being used as a dress rehearsal ahead of the sochi winter olympics next year and any organizational issues that need to be addressed before then will be ironed out ahead of the time that the world next descends on russia for a multi sports event which are those winter olympics in sochi next year while the reports good pause on a plane back to london the other day and half the plane was full of these guys that had been there and that
a lot of positive things to say but if what i overheard anyway so big night tonight coming up as well thank you for the update there and. more topic of conversation coming up crosstalk scott the neo con agenda in america at its sights very much in its sights right after the break. spade blind to what is happening in their country. the american dream is disappearing. the houses with gardens are laid out the poor are left hopeless the streets are full of angry crowds fighting against. the high school who stole the american dream. speech language. news programs and documentaries in spanish