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hundreds of millions of leaders away from them for free and because of the recent bad press canada's environmental minister has responded saying that they're planning on incorporating ground water regulation into next year's law but according to canada's world wildlife fund quote it's the wild west out here in terms of groundwater the government has been saying they're going to make these changes and it just hasn't gone through yet meanwhile nestle's rebuttal was that they weren't point what means seventy five people there and we do our own internal reports on how much water we suck out of the ground so don't worry are you kidding me i wouldn't trust nestle with my life and if you wouldn't either than join me and let's break the set. a little. or anything like that. over the last week egypt has exploded in violence at least six hundred thirty eight
people have already lost their lives and thousands more have been injured and the numbers continue to rise the unrest is the result of a full blown military crackdown on supporters of deposed egyptian president mohamed morsi since the coup on the country's democratically elected leadership the egyptian military has imposed a month long state of emergency and nighttime curfew resembling martial law and now in a surprise move egypt's vice president mohamed el baradei announced his resignation this week the nobel laureate resigned in protest of the violence and that quote has become difficult for me to hold responsibility for decisions that i do not agree with whose consequences i fear and after being mostly silent on the violence president obama has finally addressed the rest lawley has condemned the egyptian military for crushing dissent so far there's been no change in policy toward egypt since the coup. america could not determine the future of egypt that's
a task for the egyptian people we don't take sides with any particular party or political figure i know it's tempting inside of egypt to blame the united states or the west or some other outside actor for what's gone wrong i want to be clear that america wants to be a partner in the egyptian people's pursuit of a better future. and we are guided by our national interest in this longstanding relationship that's right it's interests that drive us policy everywhere in the world so help me break down exactly what those guiding interests are and what effects egypt instability could have on the region at large i'm joined by brian becker national coordinator with the answer coalition thanks so much for coming out of writing so brian the muslim brotherhood is calling for more rallies of course this curfew is now implemented what is the truth what can you attribute to this eruption and violence well the military has made the decision the final decision to crush the the muslim brotherhood there have been those peaceful largely peaceful sit ins that have demonstrated that the people who are morsy supporters the
brotherhood supporters object to the military having i was did morsi held him incommunicado and basically seize power so the egyptian military has decided we will use the ultimate power of the military the gun the bullet the bayonet the tear gas in order to smash this resistance and during the two thousand and eleven revolution the military also was in control but eventually gave up its and control for the democratic process i mean do you think at the same outcome will happen now or should we be more worried at this oh i think we have to look at what actually happened yes mubarak was removed in february two thousand and eleven because of the popular uprising the people but the edifice of military control the formation the structure of it never really changed it was only in june two thousand and twelve there there was a democratic election that's when more of these forces captured the parliament but i would say right now what we can anticipate is that the egyptian military funded by the united states is in control it's
a police state and they're not going to give up power and the scene is gruesome it's a horror and it's tragic for six hundred over six hundred dead charred bodies obama and secretary kerry of course both condemned the violence but there seems to be no discussion to halt almost one point five billion dollars of military aid given to the egyptian military i mean should this be a no brainer here brian well you have. i wonder what's that aid for is it really to help egypt on the path of democracy i would say absolutely not united states gives egypt one point five billion dollars each year it goes to the military do the second largest recipient of pentagon aid the first is israel they've been giving the aid to mubarak they gave it before decide they're giving it nonstop throughout this entire tenure and they will not cut the aid now because for two reasons basically much of that money goes straight to western corporations much of it never leaves the united states much of it is for weapons that are produced by u.s. weapons manufacturers and the other money is used to keep the gyptian high command
on the u.s. payroll so that's the connection they are the pivot the way the united states maintains control in this the largest arab country well i guess the bigger question of why has egypt been such a cornerstone for u.s. foreign policy for decades well until nine hundred seventy nine the u.s. relied on the shah of iran and the eastern part of the middle east and israel as proxy or stabilizing forces sort of is the policeman for us imperialist interests in the middle east then the iranian people overthrew the shah in one thousand nine hundred nine that's when the united states moved in brokered an agreement between israel and egypt began funding the gyptian military and now uses israel and the egyptian military as the stabilisers for western interests in the middle east let's talk about obama's rhetoric he says that peace and stability in egypt is the only u.s. interest on the government has exactly played a very positive role in terms of improving democracy for the malays for the last century what interest is he really talking about let's break down exactly what
those role the middle east has two thirds of the world's oil the middle east is geo strategically important because it's it separates asia africa europe its resource rich and the united states as a principal part the priority of its foreign policy for more than fifty years has been to dominate this oil rich region it supports all the gulf monarchies saudi arabia kuwait. got are about to rain it supports israel as a proxy force in order to discipline or or stop the arab revolution from reclaiming oil resources united states interests or the interests of empire the interests of domination the interests of chevron and exxon mobil so the american people have to know when you talk about terrorism or the threats to security us foreign policy in the middle east which is generating so much hatred is really the foreign policy of the biggest oil companies which really just want to exploit this region hard truths brian but they are truths indeed obama also mention that it's unfair to blame the
west for what's happening in egypt right now the political instability but really is that fair to say after the us did prop up mubarak's brutal regime for over fifty years and they probably this military dictatorship as well it may be gyptian soldiers that are pulling the trigger but the guns the bullets the bombs they're paid for by the washington government with our tax dollars how much leverage does the u.s. really have and the outcome of this crisis well historically the u.s. was the dominant force in egypt and in the middle east after it took the place of british which had been the sort of semi colonial overlord of egypt the united states now is sort of managing the crisis that's why they don't want to give the control the lifeline to the egyptian military which it considers to be the anchor for western support west instability western oil and military interests they're managing the crisis they don't have this isn't completely instigated by the united states these are complex social forces at play and in struggle with each other but certainly the united states and the pentagon see the gyptian military is their ultimate card in the middle east for u.s.
interests and among everyone weighing in on the situation yemeni nobel peace prize winner tahlequah carmen said that the egyptian army is overthrow of morsi was a death knell for the arab spring revolution in terms of a democratic process kind of moving for the region do you agree. neither morsi nor the generals who overthrew morsi have a way out. gyptian crisis why is there mass poverty why is that forty million people living on two dollars a day why is there so much poverty in egypt it's because egypt is trapped by the neo liberal capitalist policies dominated by the i.m.f. the world bank wall street to be out of egypt's crisis is not with the military or with the muslim brotherhood there has to be a new leadership a leadership that says no to that kind of pro-capitalist agenda and right now the egyptian military will be the club the iron fist that will enforce western interests which are the interests of wall street banks and corporations the answer coalition organization just posted us around its web site quote the brewer
impression carried out by the state over the past six weeks and dangers the future of egypt could lead to even more tragic consequences for the egyptian people in the air people as a whole what could this violence and instability mean for the region at large well because it has the possibility of civil war in egypt which nobody wants but because of the way the military has suppressed its opposition right now with such brute force six hundred fifty maybe thousands killed in a single day there is the possibility that the struggle going from civil resistance could go to armed struggle if egypt has a civil war or nothing could be more consequential for the entire region the entire middle east of course the egyptian people first and foremost but all the people of the region and beyond for me i don't know what to think because i don't want to support one side or another of this military global chess game where people are dying what would you say to people who don't want to sponsor the violence but want to help the egyptian for the american people and first and foremost we have to go to washington we have to say to the white house cut us military aid the blood
gyptian people right now is on the hands of the u.s. government and the congress we is the american people have to say no we have to say you're not doing this with our consent even though you're doing it in our name thank you so much brian becker national organizing to answer coalition. don't go anywhere you guys will talk about the latest on bradley manning and his testimony from us. but norman solomon stick around. told me my language as well but i will only react to situations as i have read the reports so unlike the players i know i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point of the month to say that it is secure yet a car is on the docket. no more weasel words when you have a direct question be prepared for
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after three years of military detention in legal limbo u.s. private bradley manning has been convicted on nineteen charges including six counts of espionage and total the counts could still land him a lifetime in prison and yesterday he took to the standard his sentencing hearing to give one final statement he said quote i'm sorry for the unintended consequences of my actions i believed i was going to help people not hurt people i look back at my decisions and wonder how on earth i could possibly believe i could change the world for the better i understand that i must pay a price i hope you can give me the opportunity to prove that i'm a good person and i can return to a productive place in society yes it's very sad to hear these words of remorse coming from manning but i can't judge him for saying them and no one else should either wiki leaks the organization that leaked the classified documents called an unfortunate and forced apology saying that quote the only currency this military court will take is bradley manning humiliation his apology is a statement extorted from him under the overbearing weight of the u.s.
justice system as it three years and millions of dollars to extract two minutes of tactical remorse from this brave soldier we go weeks went on to say that in a just court the us government would be apologizing to manning as over one hundred thousand signatories of his nobel peace prize nomination attest bradley manning has changed the world for the better he remains a symbol of courage and humanitarian resistance all that belief in manning's impact on the world is exactly the sentiment echoed by my next guest a man who just last week presented to those one hundred thousand signatures of the nobel p. prize committee in norway to talk about the latest on manning and why he truly deserves to be a peace prize winner i'm joined by norman solomon co-founder of roots action dot org and founding director of the institute for public accuracy thanks so much going on norman pleasure so first of all i wanted to get your take on manning's apology what did you think i think it's a testament to how bradley manning like so many other people in so many ways is a casualty of war when you think of the trauma that he went through well initially
in terms of his father veteran himself by his own account pushing bradley manning to and then his own experience in the military in iraq seeing that he was ordered to send iraqi people who were simply expressing themselves to the iraqi government to the torture chambers of the u.s. supported regime in that country then his moral decision to release this information resulting in his incarceration now for more than three years including dramatic and for him terrible isolation in solitary naked at night according to u.n. inspector virtual torture and then to go through this trial and i think that sort of trauma was reflected in his statement yesterday absolutely it pains me so much to see people actually judging him and saying you know he loves big brother now and it's like you know what talk to me after your tortured in solitary. like so many
many millions of people and i would dare to say that includes one hundred thousand plus who have signed our petition for manning to get the nobel peace prize we have nothing but admiration and appreciation for bradley manning and what he's done and the fact the organization that drafted the petition said that no individual has done more to push back against what martin that their king called the madness of militarism and bradley manning elaborate on that well that phrase was used by martin luther king jr the madness of militarism when he broke explicitly with the white. denouncing in no uncertain terms the u.s. war in vietnam and martin luther king jr of course three years earlier in one thousand sixty four went to. to receive the nobel peace prize and when just a few days ago i presented huge pile of petitions including not only hundred thousand sign or names but tens of thousands of individual comments to the research director of the nobel committee i said you know we need an independent nobel peace
prize awarded by a committee that without fear or favor will stand for peace and for human rights and three years ago a chinese dissident got the prize was unable to accept it in one thousand nine hundred one some suchi from burma miramar unable to accept it those are appropriate awards but i said to very high up official nobel committee what about giving the nobel peace prize to someone who has pushed back against the biggest strongest force for perpetual war on the planet today and for many years the u.s. government what about showing independence by giving a peace prize to an individual like that no better name than bradley manning and the reply from this nobel committee official was well we gave it to martin luther king and i'm thinking yeah that was forty nine years ago what about now though there is a lot stronger a lot a lot bigger of course bradley manning did start this conversation and you know
it's a testament to how much support he really has one hundred thousand signatures do you think they'll hold any weight and getting him the award well i think the way it is not moral suasion because frankly i may have in terms of the political climate inside the nobel committee the power structure there i may as well been visiting nato headquarters. the actual political forces that do have perhaps some effect on the nobel committee despite their pretenses it is a political context they say you know we don't care about petitions or media or lobbying. anything else we do what i suppose is assumed to be or presumed to be divine wisdom they make their decisions the nobel peace prize and we know that prize has enormous effects around the planet when it's given to one individual the most prestigious prize on the planet but the media coverage matters the public upsurge matters and i was really moved by our experience in presenting this petition when i got to norway on sunday we were on both major t.v.
networks major coverage in norway big newspapers as well i arrived with the barrow full cart full of petitions in front of the nobel committee office and it was alive on both national t.v. networks as i pulled the wagon up to the front door that's an indicator that so many people in norway and i think across europe and the entire world have a real deep on these about what has happened with the nobel peace prize that nobel committee has a lost its moral compass because it is so subservient to the white house yes i mean it's an amazing symbolic gesture of bringing those petitions standing up to the peace prize committee which sadly as you said has become almost an echo chamber for the establishment how damaging was it to give this highly coveted award to president barack obama before he accomplished anything at all well that was a big elephant in the living room in terms of that whole discourse and while our
petition made no reference to president obama and while i didn't go to norway with the stacks of petitions to address per se award i did say to the press conference and then privately to the research director of the nobel committee that at this stage the nobel peace prize needs bradley manning more than bradley manning need to nobel peace prize because there is no question of bradley manning's dedication to human rights and peace there is a. real question to put it mildly about dedication to those goals on the part of the nobel committee because barack obama was in the first controversial race at the end of this award well more and more there's been a tilt to not be independent not to have a single standard of peacemaking or human rights for that matter from the nobel committee there's been an alignment more and more that with without
a willingness to be independent there's more and more of just. expressed affinity towards what we call the west which is often a euphemism for u.s. led forces military and political scene as what's happened to bradley manning he still could face up to a lifetime in prison with the sentencing do you think that the u.s. government succeeded and that it will deter future whistleblowers from speaking out i don't think so at all as a matter of fact that moral cat is out of the bag you cannot cork that bottle because we've had edward snowden we've had several people like william binney and thomas drake and others from the national security agency we want our civil liberties for one thing and the surveillance state and the war first they are really one in the same so if anybody in the white house or the pentagon thinks that through their terrible treatment of bradley manning and now the conclusion almost of this trial that they have put a stop the flow of whistle blowing they're sadly mistaken there is more of that to
come and i thank you so much for shedding a light on this case because the more transparency the more light we bring to these dark cases the as be an object and the you know just the prosecution of whistleblowers it will help them immensely help the cause moving forward thank you so much foreman solomon co-founder of or it's actually not organ founding director ben stupid public accuracy thank you. guys it's been an amazing year of breaking the set over the course of more than two hundred episodes i've been able to talk about a multitude of issues ranging from the through that we eat to the criminal activity being perpetrated on the world with our tax dollars a lot of the material i cover is tragic and learning about these issues sometimes brings utter despair and hopelessness and the feeling of not being able to immediately bring change i've traveled almost every continent throughout my short life i've seen indescribable
suffering and breathtaking beauty across this precious planet even while acknowledging the good it's hard to come to terms with so much bad and i think the eternal struggle for many is how to actively engage with the plight of humanity while at the same tame time maintaining stability in our own lives with this thought in mind i think of the words of the great philosopher and scientist albert einstein throughout his life einstein received letters from people asking him for advice and solutions to their problems and one day a rabbi wrote him asking how he could explain and come to terms with the untimely death of his sixteen year old daughter einstein responded by this a human being is a part of the whole called by us the universe a part limited in time and space he experiences themselves his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness this delusion is a kind of a prison restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for
a few persons nearest to us our task must be to free ourselves from this prison and we do this by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty nobody is able to achieve this completely but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security guys what einstein proposes is that it's our ego that inhibits the expansion and unity of he. anyways collective consciousness or thoughts dogmas and preconceived notions about the world whether it be rooted in religion politics or just selfishness hinders us from looking at life as it truly is any child or as we truly are. the struggles we incurred in our everyday lives can distract us for ever from reality the world in which we live the human family we all share and the earth we all inhabit this preoccupation deprives us from
experience in the interconnectedness of nature and understanding how we fit into the cycle of life. i myself struggle with this notion on a daily basis but i also understand that this job and the issues i try to bring attention to are so much bigger than myself too often we get mired down in superficial ism materialism nationalism we forget that borders are invisible labels are inventions and prejudice is learned the fight can be won by extending empathy globally and that means being the change we want to see is at the end of the day that's all we can ever do and so we have to trust and that is changing the world.
live. exactly what happened that day i don't know but a woman got killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. innocent people to confess to police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like meant no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were often they could get what they wanted they could say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. he'd.
we ought to send word ninety six further into chaos as gun battles break out in cairo dozens of deaths are reported among both the police and morsy loyalists in cities across the country. missing in china's backyard washington ups its military aid to the philippines boasting control of the oil rich south china sea but adds more fuel to the friction with beijing. plus more snooping seamus the embattled n.s.a. is revealed to have been violating u.s. surveillance rules thousands of times a year.
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