on larry king now ron howard on his new film rush i thought was a great a great opportunity to do something that would be really fresh that by the way kind of has to be experienced on the big screen this is a labor of love movie from top to bottom why arrested development is such a phenomenon had this fanbase that would not go away would have been better on table you probably i think maybe if it had been on cable it might never even left plus when you see of the use of a say could have lived with grew up with so many times in here larry that it's sickening that's all ahead on larry king now.

great pleasure to welcome to larry king now one of my favorite folks ron howard the two time academy award winning filmmaker twenty thirteen a hall of fame inductee into the category of television arts and sciences and his current film rush opens september twenty seventh is about the heated robbery of the one nine hundred seventy s. formula one drivers two story james hunt and the cloud and i sort of abate and i got to tell you you have conquered the feel to it this is an amazing action movie. about two rivals there is both thrilling and deeply understanding of difference all thank you there it how did you come to do this is from a bonus well i'll tell you you you member frost nixon the movie i did it was written by peter morgan and he loves these stories he did the queen last king of scotland he loves these true stories about these unexpected opposing personalities going at

it in very entertaining and revealing ways well. he knew nicky loud and learned about this rivalry between he and james hahn and all the drama and all the twists and turns that went with it and so here's a guy who's not doing it because he loves the sport he's doing it because he's fascinated by those characters and while i didn't know much about the sport i love sports dramas you remember we talked about cinderella man years ago i you know i thought was a great a great opportunity to do something that would be really fresh that by the way kind of has to be experienced on the big screen. because of the intensity and the excitement of it all and yet very emotional and smart intelligent to make is still a great guy yes he is and in fact he's just sold an airline this is a very intelligent well to do guy. and in his back in formula one he's always he's always remained as a commentator for german television as you manage

a team and now he's it is one of the principles that in the mercedes race team is having a very good year and as you did thrown into the sport yeah i love the sport it's really fascinating i think it's it's so modern because of the way that it it uses absolutely you know aerospace technology basically and it's still a competition it's still a physical challenge it's still it's still a great sport and these these two things working in alignment is. you know is really really fascinating and dynamic and now and i watch a race you know i can't even get up to go to the toilet i was shooting to see. for example used to on the real from the real race well not a lot but we do the inspirations and we added some crowns you know here's how we did we used modern digital technology to do kind of what they did in forrest gump

but instead of putting tom hanks sitting next to richard nixon we put our cars into great scenes that we could find in our car in the in the in the archives the action we really had to create ourselves mostly in camera with these unbelievable precision drivers we also had these guys who actually own these cars larry these cars are worth millions of dollars and yet these guys who own them race them when i found out about that and they saw how authentic our script was they were willing for not a lot of money just sort of covering costs to be a part of it i kept that but they wouldn't let our stunt people drive their cars they had to drive them and i said wait a minute or have seen those sitting out here on the track waiting for me to sort of say you know that one didn't work out so well we need another take there's going to get they're going to get a text and realize they have a board meeting or something that you have to use like they did they were the heroes of the movie and they brought so much authenticity of everything in their home to characters whose stars it is chris hemsworth best known for thor i suppose

but soon going to be known for a lot of things he's starring in a michael mann movie right now he's a really terrific actor he's great as james hind and really won the role through this surprising audition that he did and just blew us all away daniel bruel plays niki lauda daniel as it is best known in this country probably for his role in in glory as basterds and he's just a very talented international actor he's communion like and the performance that he creates for niki lauda he had the advantage of getting to spend time with nikki that makes you such a. a wry entertaining sort of a gee character and you know daniel really created a great screen performance one of those things above because it's a great story to the rivalry and be also a fiction yeah it's dream that you great director things like that it's good to have this is a great film this was a great opportunity and when your life when you and it was also very very unique

and it's harder than ever to find something they really truly feels fresh i'm still i'm a big movie fan i wanted to see this movie and that's usually a good reason to go ahead and direct it to. you when you get to go from film to film as a directive is it hard to put one away even go to another well it's you know it's pretty exhausting working on a movie so you usually kind of glad when you can say all right i think i think we if we haven't done everything we can do we have at least reached our deadline and so we have to let this one go but all of the other beauty of the film so do come to be involved with this group to be involved with that company in this company and meant something very alive for sense because that because this was not a studio movie and this is also a new territory for me this was financed internationally it was an independent movie and we didn't have the kind of budget that we would have it was a studio movie this is a labor of love movie from top to bottom and we had academy award winning people behind the camera in just about every department because everyone saw that this was

a really fresh opportunity amazing and we didn't want to let it go by and so our cinematographer our editors peter morgan the screenwriter hans zimmer the composer everybody throwing everything they had behind the movie well you comfortable as you are is say a beautiful mind i prefer i look i'm i grew up as an actor as you know i love activities i love actors so to me everything is about the performance and the characters and the action when it grows out of that well that's something that i enjoy like the boxing and cinderella man like the weightlessness in apollo thirteen or the driving in in in russian in the racing scenes. action for action sake is not as much fun for me there's frankly there's a lot of risk involved people get hurt doing this sometimes killed you have to take it very seriously really really thank god no but the last day we had we were

shooting that wet that final race in the rain we had two hydroplaning incidents where even our precision drivers went out of control and just thankfully you know there were no cameras or is it raining. yeah we made it well we were shooting in england larry so every time it rained we just said ok we're in japan now it which was you know. it was going to be a big hit it's been a real it's been really surprising screening it for people i am always rooting for every movie to you know to reach an audience but that but i think people don't know quite what to expect of rush and especially women they come out of the movie it loving it at least as much maybe even more than in the minute we like it a lot and they go in with some trepidation you know erase that movie about race drivers you know i was going to be for me and because of peter morgan's writing that of the women and the and the relationship it is a relationship story and so i think people are really responding well to it because

it delivers the race action it's authentic but it also i think as you said the human interest side because it's sort of the human i would love to have known me too i mean it was a character you know here's what here's what have i mean everybody i talked to love the guy and and he was an amazing kind of a joe nemeth type you know you very ladies' man far you know as they would say but and rock and roll sex drugs and drive sex drugs and rock'n'roll that was the time but but because i couldn't meet him i got a hold of a paragraph that he'd written a little note to somebody you know just just to a wedding couple congratulations and you know i wish you all the best and blah blah blah and i had an analyzed by an aunt a handwriting analyst and it was so interesting because james times very paradoxical kind of guy very competitive yet warm reckless crazy womanizer and yet you know a loving guy and i was trying to make these things link up in my mind so i could

pass it along to chris hemsworth and it really meant a watt to go through that know with a handwriting analyst with him and then run through. personality traits yes and and that very much suggested that this would be a guy who would be a sort of pedal to the metal you know willing to die to win kind of a guy and yet at the same time be you know ladies' man and also you know a really likable guy that everyone wanted to be around if there is a really fascinating character james time and yes i wish i could have met him i'm actually wearing his son has put out this hat it's a gray had. in his sons who who. you know he died at forty five they were very young and in some ways they told me that they really appreciate the movie because it it offers a little more understanding into their dad. i don't mean i you know i love this filmmaking thing. my kids are all grown now i have

a little more discretionary time so every once in a while now when an offer comes my way to maybe appear in a movie it's a living is it was it was an interview or. oh well i was in arrested development recently but i was playing myself barely counts. all probably t.v. movie. early eighty's and has been a long so you must think you want to do something i'd like to yet you know it would be fun would you do it just so full of would young no i'd rather work for a great director because you know we all meet each other enough i think it be fun for me to hang on the set of a you know coen brothers movie or george clooney who i think is a great director he'd be fun to act for what makes a great dearth. you know there are a lot of ways to skin the cat but i think it ultimately boils down to you know taste judgment about the best way to sort of bring a particular story to the screen whatever that story is a comedy drama the tools needed yeah it's

a director's medium and some but you don't have to be the nicest guy in the world you don't have to talk a lot. there again it's every kind of personality can make a really wonderful movie the other thing is that no matter how good you are occasionally you miss fire it's all it's a medium that cannot be mastered what did you make a movie that you thought yes it was no at the public didn't they do it the way you took ali definitely i mean i've had i've actually had a few of them disappointed well it's just that somehow i think usually the movies will screen well for an audience but then people don't sample them and that's where i feel let down what movie well cinderella man was a movie that i was very proud of the only ok and and i'm and i constantly get people coming up and talking to me about that movie frost nixon you know it was nominated for a lot of academy awards very well regarded at the box office people didn't really give it a chance and so later when they come up and talk to me about the money i'm thrilled

that they finally got around to it and liked it but i also wonder how come you didn't take a shot to go see it on the big screen which is what i needed to do or is it will be did the best. the best was probably i think. the davinci code was the best and and angels and demons and you know also very well how the grinch stole christmas very good apollo thirteen and a big surprise to me was a beautiful mind how well it did you know it's a dark dramatic story if you only want me you and russell crowe are wrong to give the would say yes of course a larry king live absolutely owes a great great great so thank you apollo thirteen difficult to shoot very difficult to shoot in fact there are a lot of parallels between apollo thirteen and rush. it because i was really trying to recreate the world with true authenticity and the only way to ultimately do it to a degree which is sort of get it into it backdraft my movie about firefighters are similar in that way. but the technical details was actually part of what made

apollo thirteen so engrossing and kind of fascinating and i found the same with formula one except there are a lot more sexy girl standing around with her in the formula one world than in the nasa world then run than i do but we'll talk about arrested development in the things after this. it was a. very hard to take i don't. want to get. to that fact with rick perry. that. it was.

a pretty. people want to. pick up something that is quite simply a mess. place was no way out. clearly they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. and sold to the u.s. or turned over to the u.s. for. the sole that could be buried alive. was saved with great effort. and they want to turn me into a terrorist so it is with them they wanted me to admit that i was

a member of al qaeda the taliban but i fought with them. not about time i didn't even know what al qaeda is nevertheless there are people. brave enough to start a fight. something's going to be done it's going to be done by me and it's been a short amount of time doing it but it's going to impact me i'd be prosecuted but it's going to impact. on wife my daughter. the one time i'm a trapped monarchy. we're back with ron howard his new film rush i can say enough about alicia to tell you to rush to see it a when it come i think it a little i'm in not really you know this movie thank you they totally gross one hundred simmers music is relentlessly trying to suppress the you know hans zimmer is so brilliant because he writes great action yes the batman movies and superman

and they did the davinci code in backdraft with me but he's also very psychological and he so loved what chris hemsworth and daniel pearl were doing with those characters that it if i think it's one of the things that makes the score so surprising because it's it's got these different blend of the zero zero themes plus all the into very aware of it and. well did tell me about arrested development did it liz the only two and a half years were easier to cope it simply meant that well i'll tell you another time about well it came about because about twelve years ago i was trying to start an internet company and i wanted to sort of use the new acetic of reality t.v. to try to do a comedy i thought to be fun on the internet and at that time the broadband the downloading stuff just you know you couldn't you couldn't do it as you can today. and so we didn't get to but i still was i thought this is idea of an improvised t.v. show that was fresh that had this kind of hand-held documentary feel would be interesting

it would look like a reality show i took the idea to mitch hurwitz he had an amazing set of characters but love the idea of approaching it not in the traditional sitcom way but with this other comedic this other visual style that could be we thought more comedic you know dense or a little like the simpsons last coming at you a mile a minute in. and out of it came arrested development well arrested development was a critics' darling and had a a an amazing fan base but it was a little bit of an acquired taste shows like the office weren't on yet here modern family that sort of used a similar kind of style and the radio and the narrator and so forth and and so. you know it never really took off in the ratings finally fox kept trying to stay with it funny was cancelled but it had this fan base that would not go away and thanks to d.v.d.'s and then thanks to downloads and the internet it just kept

proving its viability and then finally for its netflix wanted to bring it back and we had been talking about trying to do a movie but. the netflix idea was so irresistible because the cast is so large and mitch didn't want to leave anybody out or give anybody short shrift in a movie. but in coming back and doing new episodes he could catch the audience up with you know this amazing amazing hilarious cast led by jason bateman would have been better on to believe probably i think maybe if it had been on cable it might never even left they do this whole digital world with they were on i think this whole internet the whole as it we were to we were too early in but but brian grazer and myself and and steven spielberg and and jeffrey katzenberg tried twelve or thirteen years ago to do a thing called pop dot com and it was basically the idea that you know people would want to get intertainment directly off their laptops we didn't know about you know

sort of cell phones and things like that then but it's always made sense to me an book i make a movie especially a thing like rush i really hope people will see it on the big screen but more than anything i care about the story and however people choose. to do the areas the story that makes me happy i may have a preference but but if they ultimately choose my story i'm grateful for that stephen your friend stephen spielberg is worried about with movies of going yeah well i understand he's talking about and because the economics of everything is you know that definitely is changing and i hope that audiences tastes won't change to the point where they won't take a risk you know they'll only go to the big screen experience if they absolutely are guaranteed then you know they're going to love it you know and it's i wouldn't like . i would like movies to become sort of like what's happened

a little bit with broadway where there are these fantastic musicals that we all love to go and see but that's the only thing that people will rush to or you know that it's harder and harder to get people to go see other kinds of stories and. so you know i understand what stephen's talking about that's one of the reasons that i fought real hard to make to make rush because you know it's a fresh unexpected kind of a movie but i think it's it's something that really ought to be experienced on the big screen i hope people sample is the total movie. well everybody on the cast loved getting together in this time mitch co directed the episodes which he'd never done before and he was brilliant at it so. and really flourished creatively is that you know as an artist so i think there's a real appetite within the group to to do more whether it's an amusing now or

whether it's more episodes i really can't i really can't say but you know if they do him in you know and they need the narrator don't try to take that microphone away from me i will be there. the broad did she do it. well as i said earlier with rush it was a movie that i really wanted to see and i think i i feel it was a bit scripts you i mean i was with him process i develop some scripts original ideas either of mine or that other writers have or the book rules and articles and things like that through imagine films brian grazer and i put our heads together and try to decide what it is we want to work on and as different as brian and i have always been whenever the two is land on the same project generally that's something worth focusing on when you see of. the use of a say i would love to get so many times a year larry that it's sickening i thought you know rush is a rivalry story and people been asking me well do you have a rival no no i am feel that way about it but i challenge myself and i i love what

i do and i want to do it well and when i see somebody do great work i don't begrudge them. i would have been this way truthfully no no no you know which is i'm a big fan i'm a good fan especially the first time through a movie not very judgmental rush will open in september then he's off to do a world of james mobile book no it's actually this is the story that inspired melville to write moby dick it really occurred and so this is based on a book called in the heart of the sea another true story a true story is from is also going to star chris hemsworth is in rush in fact he brought me this script it's a script that had been around both willing but you know about whaling and a sperm whale actually sank a ship. you know a thousand miles from the galapagos and their survival story is harrowing and heroic. and very very revealing the good issue will move we're going to shoot

a movie they have survival story at sea and an ocean movie which every director friend of mine says ron would already you know what are you doing that's the toughest thing you can you can you can shoot shooting in england and then we're shooting in the can. arlen's we have some social media questions for you sure i had but i live with my bed he wants to know what's the most interesting thing you learned about f one toto making rush this combination of science and and this and the athleticism of competition especially in modern formula one they basically have like mission control centers tracking these cars it's just stunning with a you know a one formula one that was in the road watch that's indianapolis aware of it right . i mean no who's in the leap. is that there's joe is this is someone wallow in your return oh it's the absolutely and and now on line you can actually follow a car you want to follow but the t.v. coverage has got to be so good on formula one we had to really go

a long way to put the cameras in even more intense personal interesting ways for rush and do things that shoot you know to go beyond what you can get in television because the t.v. coverage of f one racing is incredibly cool the endless love turn my five four to five six three two two would occur because money was your favorite episode of the n b griffith show. well a lot of people talk about the bird one but but i like one that was based on real life my dad actually wrote the story for it and it was it's a thing where andy is hiring and he calls opie out at home and opie sure he was safe and he's just shattered and pretty pissed off well that it happened to me when my dad called you out it called me out at home on a bridge on a ballgame that was for is on my birthday was just a pickup game but i couldn't leave he called me out and my dad thought that was hilarious that i was so upset about it and they were and we took the idea to andy and they and they and they made an episode out of

a good number which i'm going to have it was a little game word association word comes into your mind i'll say someone comes in here on splash. and daryl hannah walked into a tail underwater with no mask and we will go as the funds genius changed what he created with that character was was put all of you into the bedroom it was just drop it in mine well it was he earned it you know i mean i mean it was just i think it was a momentary it was six lines in the beginning and from the very first pilot you could just see this guy was great but he you know we immediately had he was like an older brother to me and in so many ways and has been you know he's godfather to my kids were a little of a base a great man great man george lucas said tested mentor and. in true visionary i've never seen a lateral thinker like that he just is outside the box here it is good the movie the most personal movie i ever made my kids were exactly that age at that time so were the writers dan's mendell same with brian grazer and so many of those events

came right out of our lives it's a great friend and remarkable artist who has. the elegance of kind of a joe dimaggio he makes it look so easy when you're working with a machine on stage yeah i did he was wonderful you know i am so happy for him because he has so much respect and love for the medium he's a very it's not false humility but he's just very grounded and he's he's earned every achievement given him to give the. well remarkable figure in my life he taught me among other things that creativity doesn't have to be a bomb or it doesn't it doesn't have it it's hard but yet without focus and effort you know you're you're not going to sustain that kind of connection with with with

the audience we had so many laughs around the show but it was also like there was this moment you know like magic johnson famous of her saying you know it's when in time it was a time to do the show and as loose and easy as that show was. it took a tremendous amount of discipline and he never backed off for eight full season i watched it the two hundred forty ninth episode was as important to andy as the first. you know great man what i said talk to ron howard and you will love rush you'll find those kings things on twitter. spice k two scooby snacks the insulting thing is that they actually have the nerve to call if. you smoke and chemicals you're smoking something that is laced with

your even know what they are and many many different than me i will not let it drive there is no real hold for a little. there's no f.d.a. regulations on one of the must just be smoking light would have no idea what is in that. crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want.

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