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wealthy british soil. is no time to. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with much stronger the no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports. hello welcome to sophie and sophie shevardnadze levanon has accepted hundreds of
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thousands of refugees from syria they come in addition to the already great number of refugees from palestine was well made remains out of sides after decades in exile but the newcomers there for the long term and will they cost the lebanese economy to crumble well lebanon be dragged deeper into its neighbors conflicts but want to beirut to talk to one of the country's most influential politicians former prime minister fouad siniora. they cross the border every day the syrian refugees escaping the chaos of war in their land. filling up homes and tent camps stranded and separated from their families lebanon promised to keep the border open for whoever runs from the war but struggles to feed and keep warm the needy while lacking a plan for their future. how strong is lebanon's helping hand how
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far will it breach how committed is beirut to its neighbor. what's in there as ink you very much for being with r.t. today thank you for coming in so we're actually witnessing a resurgence of sectarian violence here in beirut do you think that lebannon is there a chance that lebanon can remain neutral in its position towards the syrian civil war. on the. way the. resistance of the lebanese resistance. accepting that country will be dragged into any type of confrontation among the this components to the contrary i think there is a great deed of. positions among the lebanese that they want to live together they want to really carry on the dialogue there are lots of
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issues that need to be sorted out but this does not mean that they would resort to violence and trying to deal with this matter on the other hand for sure i mean to have that number it would constitute problems on the security on the security that you're saying international community has really fulfill its promises in helping us with the refugees you know that the u.n. has offered lebanon to set up refugee camps that lebanon has rejected i mean all these refugees are in free flow right now it can't be too good can it do you think by dissing the region said this is a mistake that was committed. at the present government and we have already. advised i mean we are we are part of the of of the of the opposition now for the time being and we have expressed our opinion so many times and we proposed that at the news. the net they should help in the setting up of number of.
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camps for that if you do for this unit if you g.'s near the lebanese syrian lebanese border it helps lebanon in presenting its problem to the world by showing . what it is undergoing and downs of a burden that such a number of what you say refuse it in a first time first place actually there are two reasons one is that the good it is going on time. during these past three years was very much influenced by. the syrian government and this it invasion and in this respect this invasion has been adopting the policy of denial of what's happening there were denying that there is a problem going on in syria just until recently it is thought to recognize this on the other hand it is certain let's say fear among certain components of the
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lebanese. that was made constitute later on something similar to the. few g.'s and the which they were set up camps so in fact. i don't think this is this is true but this is that is was their opinion that readers are not allowing the lebanese government to set up these protests in this these camps for these syrian refugees what are the economic implications i mean you know when it cost two billion dollars seven hundred has been report was published recently by the world bank about the konami consequences of such a massive. number of. g.'s. and then that. which is in excess of seven point five. so this is something that lebanon cannot
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really take the syrian civil war for many is really part of a larger conflict between sunni and shia muslims with saudi arabia and iran behind the scenes and pulling the strings what do you think. well i think i think this is a mystery in this moment and the misrepresentation of the facts. let's go back to what they did happen in march. and to into a long tour over two hundred off years ago. it was way of. let's say the people of that time who took the street him over to express. the feeling of lack. of dignity and lack of freedom actually. has resorted to its classical tools in trying to
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separate among the various components of the society throughout the past let's say number of the kids you can never distinguish and differentiate between the various components of the syrian society and you don't know who is doing the christian and who is the muslim who is the ilo it and who is the knight and so on that was the situation in syria the regime has resorted to these tools in order to create is addition within the country limits or no one doubts that the conflict started as a local thing that is that's a fact but i'm talking now we have as the line the iranians who are supplying arms to the assad regime and they have qatar and saudi who are arming the rebels in winter so that's a fact i'm saying right now the way things are looking at this point it seems like it's just a part of a larger conflict between iran and saudi arabia. for sure the conflict going on.
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between. them but over the years and then the reach that each but you see now we have to know how it three developed what was the mistake and particularly there was a mistake and i believe and i have communicated this several times to the russian leadership because they are the ones who had. let's say. and we always remember for the russians who supported the people throughout the past let's say the kids in the dealing with the arab world really supported the people at the same time they are the ones who had the possibility to go in between let's say the opposition and the and the uprising on the one hand and
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the regime on the other instead of taking the initiative and trying to find a solution to a problem that is growing and that really they were quite aware what can we do in terms of lead to the result to particularly in trying to assemble and to free some of the terrorists and the extremists that were present in syria and elsewhere and there were used by the syrian regime at one time to assemble them and to send them to iraq and they send them to us and lebanon the russians they have already seen what the regime can do they kept on silence and they supported that it and the regime went along in a way to carry on this process of creating this edition now where do we go from here where do we go from here something has to be done in order to bring together i
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fully agree that something has to be done and downs of let's say arranging for the geneva two conference to get together to then to that conference but on the on the on the on the proper. work plan so that. ultimately this will lead towards the let's say the that will not be there and such and such a formula because it is not possible for somebody who is a. all of the country that has suffered throughout the boss two of the half years of over one hundred twenty thousand casualties and the destruction. and the creation of his addition to combat as as he continued president in the such a gun after the break we'll see if there is any truth to claims that russia supports president assad or is it the syrian people and coolies has turning against
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in lebanon stay with us. be elusive search for justice should individuals including government officials be legally held to account for starting aggressive force like in iraq is it fair to push their officials be given immunity from prosecution if they are not held accountable in who is ultimately responsible.
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job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem. rational debate real discussion critical issues facing. you know ready to join the movement then welcome the. welcome back our guest is former lebanese prime minister fouad siniora who thinks russia is playing into president assad's hand in the ongoing syrian conflict but mr senora seems to agree that extremism is a problem here missing gresham is supporting i saw then once i thought to stay in power hit they're not supporting the regime from what i know and they just don't
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want the rebels to come in power because that would have repercussions for russia's north caucuses reassure me that and this is it's so it's important it's very important. we understand the what you call it the concerns over russia and. the extremists but we have exactly the same concerns what media expect from a show. called the moderates it's just support moderation in syria and the. what is really syria after what is going to be the we're doing to difference between the moderates and the rebels because it's so mixed up right now largely the rebels are really made up of jihadists right now no that's not true. you see what is the. is in fact the regime is trying to say is that. eighty percent
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of the syrians are. extremists that's not true now they're saying the outsiders are rebels now fighting against the syrian he's minority. in the hundreds there are not more than a hundred. syrians odd in that is union that biased people there are not really extreme as they are not everybody is so and you two of how well a terrorist was just ripping out a hired syrian person and eating it and actually told this to all. of the other day i said when i met with two months ago i said i understand president putin has mentioned this this thing. about the man who took the heart of somebody and ate it. i don't know who is he might be planted or he might be correct that he has a certain revenge or he is
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a criminal. but he did not see the man who took the throat of event if amos in syria. took his thought and he did not see as well that there are more than one hundred and twenty thousand people who were killed so that one day took his heart is something very criminal and the hundred and twenty thousand people that there is not something criminal it is high time to put an end to this tragedy that's going place this is a genocide what's happening in syria it has to be stopped and stopped now and there is and there is a duty on behalf of the russians are still russian kerry acquired what do you think of that well i believe that they put an end to the problem in syria which was really. done by the sudanese she
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is rooted to create some sort of. balance. and equivalence with israel because israel has a nuclear bomb so this at lehman that was made is fine but is that all. is it over now i mean the whole thing is that me finally we we're going to get to get let's say free from from becoming weapons what about the continued genocide that's taking place in syria you never told me what is out of a possible american local strike on syria that could still be an option if this agreement never doesn't work out let me tell you. i'm i'm i said personally i don't believe in the use of weapons and in the use of. the problem is that. whenever you. ask the.
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us to use. to i mean to and now the west to use up and does that is not going to finish the job it's going to end up in having. job done and this by itself is going to make. say victor and is going to capitalize on it and this will make this with a longer a problem while effectively effectively creating the necessary conditions by making some sort of equivalence between the opposition and the and. that will lead was going to to to the geneva and to agree with the russians that enough is enough to lead towards some sort of way. meeting
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those the putting an end to the regime and in which real democracy can lead people over there what is needed being said from now on is that we are afraid to have the fundamentalists to take over in syria i tell you if we are going to leave things as they are the chances of furthering the radicalization is going to increase while on the other hand supporting the forces of moderation supporting let's say within that region. a force in order to help syria to reconstruct itself and to rebuild itself and while at the same time creating the reconciliation along the model that i have just mentioned to you is the best solution for syria otherwise it is it has to be for continued conflict and on. then you would contain the bloodshed and continued let's say let the asian of
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forces of violence from syria into into the region what has happened in syria is something that does not does not threaten the situation of syria to continue are such it may. lead to slow many other countries and creating this if eating of of helplessness and awe and openness pnas in the region and feeding of if you could defeat just feeding in the in the region that is going to be a good of either situation if i may i just have a couple more question about within lebanon situation do you see the group of federalists long as your natural allies and you see it as a threat to lebanon. for the history. of his teens who were sent. into or seven and it took all.
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but a scene in camp in lebanon in the north and they fought the lebanese army and at that time was a prime minister and which was. really putting an end to to this to this. let's say attack that was made that lead ultimately to the destruction of the camp but it was much better than leaving this let's say. that to spread all over in the end eleven we. live in ease. and and effectively. we muslims and levon. and this for months they were they want. to live together work comp. in the country with all the little law that it's of the liberties we are against against the use
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of of religion in order to really try to defend certain principles or certain ideas and we are against the use of violence in this respect was in fact in the name of in the name of islam when the engine these people commit crimes and this is against the let's say the teachings of islam you know free syrian army is activities on lebanese soil implicate abductions and rocket attacks even though they were directed to has mullah but he was on lebanese soil do you think there should be a crackdown on free syrian army in lebanon or they should be tolerated. well i don't think. i mean here but any back that is directed from
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syria who does it whether it is the free syrian army. or anybody we are against it and we have expressed this opinion quite clearly in all of the communique that was made by the. group of of parliamentarians is that we denounce every attack that is really origin that originates from syrian territories into lebanon or any attack that is made in lebanon by any group that is said that acted towards eleven is group the syrian regime has issued a warrant arrest warrant for some of your top officials or parties officials including saad hariri saying that you guys are financing the opposition do you deny those charges our position visit. the. opposition in syria because this this thing has nothing to do with you all it i mean this once that was should has nothing to do with the with. the syrian
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uprising it was much longer before that to see what has nothing to do i mean this ones that were made against thirty thirty people december twelfth two thousand and twelve was made before and it was new that time but what i really want to say is that. the syrians in regime has been resorting to such types of of if words in order to destabilize lebanon and that's. the opposition is a v the this is the uprising. is that we have mentioned clearly is that politically we sympathize with the syrian uprising but are you financing from
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a humanitarian point of view we are helping in the receiving of that if you g.'s but we do not try nance we do not smuggle weapons or send. we do not do any of these things. this is something we disagree with and we do not really approve of anything of the sort and we cannot afford it i mean it's pretty obvious that any officials of your party are out of reach for the syrian law enforcement right now but aren't you afraid that they may become targets for hezbollah. when we have been for quite some time. our group has been targeted by. certain terrorists. this is something i don't want to leave accuse anybody because this is this is the subject matter of the international
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tribunals to. deal with this matter. for sure for sure this is this is that is there. but in this respect you only live once and you have to live in dignity and this is something that. freedom seekers and we believe that what's happening in syria is something unacceptable from from all aspects and what is happening in lebanon by the continue would. package against the states as such and the holding of weapons by a group of lebanese and that was initially was really used to. to drive these rate is out of lebanon and
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thanks for the work that they have done in this regard i mean as well was influential and in doing so the problem is that hezbollah has not directed its weapons against the chests of the innocent lebanese. and you are using this as your way to implement. a regional let's say. and. this is something unacceptable and we will continue to stand against such such plans from the day through the democratic process that. has been. bought by our constitution. and that's it for this edition hearing from what senor at lebanon's former prime minister who i met in beirut thank you for watching i'll see you next time here on self.
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