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tv   Sophie Co  RT  October 14, 2013 5:29am-6:01am EDT

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wait and see what kind of offense this might have. but there's a good issue well heard this speech he made at the united nations and he also clearly sad in that speech said israel will stand alone against iran if it has to now considering how isolated israel is in the region now adays low limit is probably the word to describe it do you feel alone now. you know of course we don't feel alone. we've got a lot of friends and allies including the united states and many of the european nations and countries in other parts of the world you know these really prime minister made one very simple point he said that our experience with syria demonstrated that for our talks with iran to be successful two conditions must be met first we need to continue putting pressure on iran. this happens through sanctions without this pressure rouhani wouldn't have won the election without this
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pressure the iranian leadership wouldn't say they're ready for talks with the west . they wouldn't have said there are open to new ideas if there are new ideas at the second our experience with syria has made it very clear that the iranian leadership realizes that if there is no progress in talks the world will never put up with iran having nuclear weapons. neither the world no israel will ever put up with that but if there is no other solution available israel will have to act on its own and take the necessary steps to make sure your iran does not have nuclear weapons because this is what this statement was about we did it in yellow sad basically even if the world is has it and we can't afford to make a mistake here because israel is the country iran threatens to wipe out with them that the iranian leadership openly says so in this sense there is no difference
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between rouhani enough. for his visit to new york through honey publicly declared that their goal is to annihilate israel more so in this situation israel definitely cannot risk the security of its citizens and in fact the security of people living in this entire region because our neighbors but i fear iran's nuclear program just as much as we do. more than once they have told us. at an official meetings that it is iran not israel but that they regard as the greatest threat to their countries arab countries think iran is a much bigger threat than israel so quite unexpectedly that israel and a number of countries in the region share a common agenda today that well we share the same understanding that iran's nuclear program and iran's involvement in the syrian conflict poses the biggest threat to stability in the middle east conflict so instead of saying israel has isolated us. i would say that on the contrary israel managed to ted down the wall of isolation
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that traditionally has surrounded israel he gave as regards egypt we have a working relationship with the new leadership in a sense we can say that our relations approving over what we had during president morsi is time that morsi time old islamist rule in egypt. we do have some difficulties in our relationships with turkey though this is because of the guns geopolitical choice he made a decision that instead of being a part of europe turkey should become a key player in the middle east and the best way to do that is to wean allies by playing the anti israeli card. we'll have to wait and see whether this approach works generally israel is alarmed of course by the growing islamised influence in the middle east and we were one of the first countries in the world to raise the alarm and in fact russia was another country to do the same. but. israel and russia
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share the same view from the early days of the so-called arab spring. we predicted that it would turn into a severe islamic winter and this is what is happening today even though the latest developments in egypt in recent months give us hope. that maybe the tide has turned and by radical islamists all over the middle east has been stopped and we may see some reversal here. that that woman school could this will very much depend on how efficient the new gyptian letisha turns out to be sleaze and how much support it receives from other nations and whether it can demonstrate to the people of egypt that it can deal with domestic issues better than the muslim brotherhood and morsi . now nuclear iran alerts constant alert scaring israelis with this seen by some critics as an attempt to distract attention from domestic issues not to lose the euro people's confidence israel will have to strike iran at some point when will it happen in your estimation. the suit just wasn't because of it at this point
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it's hard to tell how events will unfold. this will very much depend on whether the iranian leadership really has decided to strike a deal not just some semblance of a deal in all that to continue developing its military nuclear program while at the same time making the west live the sanctions that really put pressure on the iranian economy but a real deal i mean. where iran will really make a strategic decision to terminate its military nuclear program. but you don't need do you reach your a name for a peaceful nuclear program dozens of countries all over the world would build nuclear power plants without enriching uranium themselves without building underground uranium enrichment facilities without building a petroleum reactor that all the things point to the fact that iran's nuclear program is for military purposes and this has nothing to do with the peaceful use of nuclear energy the uranium president talked about the. matter of whether the
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iranian leadership really means all those things that rouhani said in his speech and the u.n. general assembly in new york if what he wants is peaceful nuclear energy and good relations with iran's neighbors in the region and the nations of european civilization the door is open and there will be no need for israel to take any drastic measures. look at the let's say ok what if iran doesn't stop peaceful enrichment when will it throughout strike. the formula here is very simple you have to understand what happened over the past year. after the israeli prime minister showed very clearly where the red line of uranium enrichment is the line beyond which it will be impossible to stop iran's this huge of an atomic bomb because all the other parts of the project like designing a delivery vehicle or building a device capable of initiating
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a nuclear explosion and that can be carried out in secret and cannot be monitored. is a stoat is that iran has changed its strategy. instead of stockpiling in recent uranium as before crossing the red line and forcing israel to take action now uses a different approach. if they develop their technology so that when the iranian leadership decides that the time has come to run can achieve the required enrichment level very quickly with the technology available in to iran today unless all enraged uranium is removed from iran and unless the enrichment process is stopped including even three point five percent enrichment all the iranian proposals including the latest ones mean nothing iran will still have a way once the political decision has been made to get weapon grade enrich uranium in just a few weeks once they're on has all the necessary to acknowledge it to produce a delivery vehicle and an explosive device iran can get enough enrich uranium in
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a matter of weeks the only way to prevent this from happening is to stop you raining enrichment all together including even low enriched uranium and to remove the existing stockpile of interest uranium from iranian territory anything less will be a half measure that will not take us anywhere but let me ask you these you're obviously very worried about a nuclear iran but what about israel itself i mean you know that on the sidelines everyone is convinced israel has a nuclear bomb and you have the. research institute that estimates that you guys actually have eighty warheads already. i have no comment on your question all i can say is that i.a.e.a. is sponsoring talks about an international conference on nuclear disarmament in the middle east. biggest reason why this conference has not yet taken place is because arab nations that have taken a tough stance saying they're not willing to compromise. israel's position on the
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other hand is flexible but unfortunately due to the tough stance taken by the arab countries the u.s. and russia have so far been unable to organize such a conference signal that they want to see a new built so let me just speak clear you choose to stick with a deliberate ambiguity as far as the nuclear issue goes not saying yes but not saying now ever since they are sixty five. yeah i knew that was to me just put them over i'm afraid i can't tell you anything different from leigh sales usual policy on this issue but the little smiths lie hate to disappoint you but you are not getting a scoop from me at least you would all right we'll take a short break now we will be soon back exploring if a similar mentality is helpful when your top official in israel and the palestinians have a right to complain when it comes to dealing with the i.d.f. don't go.
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real damage and complexity of this oil spill was not something you can grasp just by looking at dirty birds we have between four to five million people in this directly affected area of the coast and it's pretty clear why it's not being reported because b.p. can't afford to have a reported all along the gulf coast are clean they are safe and they're open for business if b.p. is the single largest oil contributor to the pentagon the us war machine is heavily reliant upon b.p. and their oil this is a huge step backwards for the marker c. it's a step forward. carex it is toxic is a look
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play play play play play. i lose. welcome back to our topic today see israeli regional and global policies and our guest today is to countries deputy foreign ministers if you can thank you very much for being with us today once again so what future do you envision for the so-called territory of the west bank if he does not believe palestinians deserve
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a state. as you know the measure of the palestinian state is a controversial issue in israel all prime minister believes that a palestinian state could be created while some members of his party even the majority of them including me have to go about it but in order to understand this dispute you need to understand the actual situation israel has been in for the past twenty years. but this it's been twenty years since the peace process started after the oslo accords were signed and the palestinian autonomy was formed but that i'll give you a few figures for the numbers of israelis killed by palestinian terrorists over these years is fifty percent higher than the number of people will last in the forty five years prior to that. palestinian terrorists have killed two thousand and five hundred israelis since the nation of israel was founded and one thousand five hundred of them were killed in the past twenty years some even though we've been
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constantly involved in the peace process and have signed the oslo accords these numbers speak for themselves and explain why the rail is are so skeptical about making concessions again and again while all we get from the palestinians in return is the ever increasing number of terrorist attacks there is one more thing that can help us understand why a part of the israeli society is skeptical about the creation of the palestinian state some time ago we withdrew our troops from the gaza strip and went back to the internationally recognized borders but as if the palestinian dream came true we went back to the nine hundred sixty seven borders. but what came out of it is the gaza strip turned into a stronghold of radical islamic terrorism hamas took over the gaza strip in a coup and the official edition of the palestinian autonomy was expelled. the gaza strip essentially became a launching side for rocket attacks on israel so now one third an even. half of the
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population of israel wake up every morning in fear that their homes or their yards may be hit by a rocket or that their kids may go to school and be killed by a rocket on the way to school or at school so this is the situation one third to half of the population of israel has been living in since we left the gaza strip but. if it were up to leave it at that. i cannot tell you right now what should happen in the gaza strip because israel has left the gaza strip and is no longer responsible for this territory she is not sure i know exactly what should not happen there them a gaza strip should not be a launching side for rocket attacks on israeli women children and civilians palestinian leadership is responsible for this this is why israel is not willing to repeat this experiment that in judea and samaria. mr nelson however though however where do you go from here i mean the palestinians already have
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a small but still important right to self-governing what do you do that you just cancel it. but. actually in a sense the palestinians are now responsible for themselves. prime minister is ready to sign an agreement with them all he is asking is two simple things first he's asking for security guarantees in other words the treaty should not jeopardize the security off his people and second he's asking the palestinians to and the conflict but the conflict cannot end until the palestinian leaders recognize the very existence of the jewish state in this region irrespective of the borders until they do so any treaty would only fuel more conflict yes there are yasser arafat's abu mazen and other palestinian leaders openly declared that they would take one step at a time but first they take what israel is ready to give voluntarily and then the
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conflict will continue so they get more territory. so israel is not willing to be the sucker of the middle east and to make long term concessions sacrificing the security of its own citizens only to find out in the end the conflict isn't over that is going on as before except that israel is now in a much worse position and so answering your question in a sense it is now the palestinians will have to choose if they do seek self-determination and want to. become an independent state they have a real partner which is moreover a very practical one as it has the backing of both the left and part of the right but as you can see not only do they has a day to jump at this opportunity now they openly declare that they wouldn't be interested in a peaceful agreement all these real if under this agreement they have to end the conflict and put up with the existence of a jewish state in this region that the current israeli government they set to be the most pro settler one in history you yourself are
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a settler on occupied territory how is settler mentality different from the mentality of the rest of his rallies. and i don't think that the mindset of the so-called settlers is any different from that of the navy was rally people about ten percent of these rallies now leave outside the borders in nine hundred sixty seven and it is not some small group of radical people the knesset speaker who is a russian speaking politician like me to cross the border. former foreign minister avigdor lieberman true i think is our future foreign minister too lives in a settlement neighboring my place and it's not typical of israel only there are a lot of similar scenarios in other regions which do not face much opposition from the international community for some reason so let's just remember the situation in cyprus territory is controlled by turkey although the international community doesn't admit that it cooperates actively with the turkish government although this part of cyprus and invests
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a lot there including money from the european budget israeli settlers who live on the land that was inhabited by our ancestors one thousand and even a few thousand years ago the shit that there's a hill next to my house where even without digging you can find plenty of archaeological artifacts from the time when this territory was the very heart of the jewish state as i have already said we were not the reason the state of palestine wasn't established. the arabs were the ones who rejected the un's decision of nine hundred forty seven and started a war destroying israel there's a news that very same thing happened in nine hundred sixty seven this territory was captured by israel and that was not because israel took up arms but because jordan declared war on israel although israel went to great lengths to persuade jordan not to join the war of nine hundred sixty seven using all possible diplomatic means before this territory had been by the way occupied by the jordanian military so
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according to international law at least this is how many international recognized lawyers put it is really settlements on these territories do not violate any laws. you know there is an israeli organization called breaking the silence they collect and publish stories of israel defense force soldiers on their routine service in the occupied territories their accounts are pretty disturbing palestinians being harassed mistreated intimidated on a daily basis and for no reason except for you know demonstrating the i.d.f. power over them how can you expect to solve anything with palestinians with such treatment. well nigh to yap. i suggest that you should come and visit me in the so-called settlement which is located not far from the israeli military and let's just carry out an experiment we will go to a neighboring arab village and kids women or the youth if they show them coming to the settlement i live in or moving around the territory where israeli soldiers are
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present you will see that they don't. they're absolutely fine coming over to villages they visit our shops they work on this territory and feel completely secure and safe from harassment by the israeli soldiers you mentioned ls conduct a reverse experiment is that let's ask the israelis relieving in the settlements my children if they're ready to take the risk of going to a nearby arab village and what would happen if they did the answer would be a simple no and it's no surprise in the past such endeavors and that in lynch trials in the best case scenario these rallies who happen to venture into arab villages got captured and then freed after a lengthy and difficult negotiations in the worst case scenario they ended up dead but the most recent incident took place just several weeks ago. two young men worked in a store that which was by the way situated within the internationally recognized israeli borders the arab man invited his israeli colleague to visit his home in an
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arab village. but the end of the story is a tragic one is of such importance that these really man was killed and his arab colleagues so to speak was planning to demand the release of some palestinian prisoners in exchange for the body of a young man he had been working with for a long time and invited him to his house that i want to look at that. that's what's really happening where i live and a difference significantly from the reports made by various international organizations or mass media. please come on film this and you will see for yourselves that what we often read in the papers is a long way from reality just because it's. what's going on right now that israeli syrian border and israel accepting refugees from syria. we are very concerned with the situation on the israeli syrian border unfortunately
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the general instability in syria affects israel as well there are many militant groups active on this border now that at times the clashes between them result in israeli territory being and says accidental or deliberate fire is that i just did it israel is following a very cautious policy in trying to stay out all the syrian conflict we offer help when we can even more time for example when syrian people living near israeli border is a wounded and need medical assistance is there and they are taken to israeli hospital several issues that are currently there are a number of syrians in israeli hospitals in the north sea however as i look at israel this policy of noninterference has a certain red line is that yes that we will definitely not be idly standing by if there is a possibility of syria's chemical weapons falling into the hands of terrorists we hope that the russian american plan to destroy syria's chemical arsenal will facilitate stability in syria and in the whole region that beat us to the danger of
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terrorists or. going as asians like hezbollah or the anti assad organizations with links to al qaida hold of chemical weapons is very serious and not only for israel but the more these chemical weapons might resurface anywhere in the world the second unacceptable thing is using the situation in syria as a cover for supplying lebanon and such organizations as hezbollah it with state of the art weapons look at that we could tape of the existing balance of power it attempts to smuggle some high quality weapons made in russia or other countries from syria to lebanon have happened before. and they have something like that happens now we would be forced to take action. in other cases israel for noninterference and providing medical assistance to this severe. population of syria living close. to see if this is
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a good this is it for today my guest was israel's deputy foreign minister. shevardnadze thanks so watching we'll see you next time. actually nothing very good is happening now afghanistan the last twelve years and that's something western media and political leaders don't like to talk about anymore well there's really no actual practicing democracy to speak of in afghanistan what you have is a kleptocratic corrupt. state but we should reframe the question so i was only just stays there there will be violence there will be chaos because it's an
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occupying power it again you know the u.s. wants to keep a footprint there but the longer its footprint is there the more well with lin had to say the violence will continue because of occupation you know just the fact that the afghan government has not yet been able to convince the afghan people that it provides a better alternative. could take three. three. three. three. three. three. video for your media project. dealing with torch is on a big journey. one hundred and twenty three days. through two thousand nine hundred ton two cities of russia. relayed by fourteen thousand
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a responsibility to simply come to pay through the eyes of children if we can do it for our children love for our future. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images cobol has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operations are on the day.
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the from. another combo and causes carnage in syria killing at least a dozen people in the northwest of the country less than twenty hour hours up to twenty blast in the capital damascus. the main obstacle is still the inability of the poem is to force the syrian opposition. to come to geneva and sit down and negotiate with the government. was the decision of a case where an opposition group not to attend a russian you as a brokered peace talks on criticizes washington full failing to pressure about. the top. now of the world's largest burra days from defaulting on its debt and international lenders begin to panic about.


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