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yes. hundreds of people i want to. work cleaning up something quite simply a mess. the first. one. the president did not keep his promise. two years later one ton of know is still operating. could shutting the door on that detention center really and the trauma of one timeout. and can the closing of a prison really liberate those it once held captive.
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it's not that i feel lonely if i am lonely for him and who could possibly understand what i've experienced in guantanamo when i talk about it who is most. no one is able to imagine. and the flag flew over camp delta and guantanamo bay cuba where you know the detainees are housed. to honor all those service members and civilian who have lost their lives during the war on terrorism and those who continue to fan the ideals of freedom and democracy throughout the world so i really appreciate that because i very much enjoyed serving my country. it's painful and it makes me sad that there
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are those who think my service is not honorable. if anyone googles my name torture will come out because my name was put in books of all types which of course have in its title torture the torture teen the road torture the trail. tortured and all these kinds of things people think i must be the torture lady. i mean nine eleven a lot of people were killed that day i want to make sure somebody was held accountable. how dare anyone on this planet. do that. within our borders i am a i distaste prosecutor points an accusatory finger at your chest and because
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you're a criminal and tells you that you have betrayed your oath and you have betrayed your country that your d.s. disclose a list of names if i want i know better. and he has paid a terrible price. there's a lot of reasons for believe. there is no easy answer. downtown which has caused a lot of arctic for a lot of the. world
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war when a plane strikes the pentagon it tries to kill people in the pentagon it's very personal. it sounds corny to say it was my duty but i felt like i couldn't retire without at least offering to deploy oh and i found. to go anywhere. very scary that there is these people out here that just want to destroy our way of life our culture our values then and not understand why i mean how do you when hearts and minds how do you stop this if you don't understand your enemy. in autumn two thousand. and one turkish boy who grew up in germany decided to travel
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to pakistan to explore his muslim roots. work on the year two thousand and one changed my life. and i traveled to pakistan because i wanted to learn a lot about islam in a short time what. are some pakistan had always interested me. i was so also curious to see another country. and i realized the war had broken out in afghanistan. coming rates continue were all the taliban trenches north of the pakistani government i didn't really think much of it myself but i was just nineteen back them caught my eye. and didn't know much about the worlds. well i wasn't particularly interested in
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politics either. for the it was just before my return trip to germany i had bought a lot of presents to take home for a course for going on it was just before christmas. police stopped the bus came up to me and to ask questions. i presented my passport and they told me to get off the bus. that was my last time as a free man pakistani police handover the americans taken to kandahar air base for interrogation. and they wanted to turn me into a terrorist they wanted me to admit that i was a member of al qaeda and the taliban and that i fought with them who at that time i didn't even know what al qaeda is i said i'm not
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a terrorist and that is why i will not sign that and then they hung me from the ceiling by my handcuffs. they put a chain around them and pulled me up so that i was completely. i was hanging with my full body weight off the ground into a new month another man was hanging there the skin all over his body had turned blow that. he was dead and they left him hanging there. the interrogator asked me again to sign. when i said no he just gave a hand signal. and they pulled me up again. i hung like that for five days.
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almost every day and night i felt how he was being treated on that list is how i always immediately knew if he was being punished you know when he was doing fine soft even good to eat these are the intrusions of a moderate economy and he says you know. that i like cried for three days. i said i can go on like this but here's the point you may need. communism is not getting me anywhere i have to do something. big so i went to the police. his mother told us that norad had turned towards old radical islam this creates an expire first of all under four hundred to determine whether or not it's actually intended to fight the american
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officer johnson him. there was a great commotion within all the security agencies tomorrow it's become sort of especially after we learned that a group of suicide bombers in hamburg the hamburg cell had masterminded the nine eleven attacks a total. come down so we put out all our feelers. we got the intelligence that were to occur not us always come wanted to fight come and had bought a combat suit and army boots that incriminating testimony that mainly came from his mother. as he was said to have condoned the terrorist attacks on the united states. was. what kind of man. suddenly he had become the taliban from bremen and because of the name started it and wouldn't go away and everyone got worried first time burke and now we have our
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own terrorist cell. i kept seeing groups of people being taken away. they were never seen again. before they blindfolded me they said they were taking me to my execution. in february two thousand and two dianne beaver arise that guantanamo to work as a legal advisor to the camp's commanders. very strange plainclothes or detainees would show up wherever they came from there maybe these people you know whether their bodyguards of osama bin ladin are whatever their role is maybe there
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are pieces of information there are going to make a difference. and i sat in on hundreds and who knows maybe a thousand interrogations i don't know i saw so many it's a mind game it's trying to elicit information. of variety of different ways and playing on a person's ego playing on a person's love of family love of country. not to me when i arrived there i had no idea why i was it was very hot. they finally uncovered my eyes. took me to a small cage. looking like a dog cage only smaller. avan there were no toilets nothing. the lights were on twenty four seven and it wasn't you know
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a pool in the generators roared so loudly. so this and i could never really sleep slow sua it was more like fainting from exhaustion with only one month on the four movie photos. in my nurse and during my first interrogations they asked me about mohamed atta. the state from dallas for guy who flew one of the planes into the towers. minds and they said and that sure friend from hamburg was a more. you live close to hamburger white food from a morsel. of soul you probably went to the same fitness center. if you when they didn't like my answers they put me into solitary confinement.
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but. did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open process is critical to our democracy albus. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and the trust of a we've been a hydrogen lying handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once will just i'm job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem trucks rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing america if i ever feel ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture.
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are you willing to engage yourself in a debate when you would be pressing not only of war legalisation of cannabis in our land but can pay me for the abolishment of those punishments and save the united arab emirates well look we've seen what their own situation here first and to as we've seen with the country's easiest to solve well the countries that you mentioned there it's an even bigger problem and i would be opinion and of the opinion that she's actually union rights to consume what you want so long as it isn't harming older so this is actually a bigger issue and then kind of a species of. the self or in chief the. so i have over my own body.
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to do things that work is separation from your bike. and a lack of sleep. and so the detainees then becomes to rely on the interrogator and hopefully then at some point the detainees will become so compliant the detainees will tell you the things that you're asking about and you'll get the intelligence information that you need. i'm going to say i spent an entire year on my own. when you're alone for so long that i'm more. if you as a you realize how many things you could have done better in life. when we knew regret not having done them those. guns if you remember almost every person you
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treated badly. burned every heart you broke or both. as a child i wanted to be rich so i could drive fast cars. i enjoyed drinking a lot sometimes it made me violent to go through the. shop or i also took drugs. that's how i once lived. in my search for answers i turned to the koran and decided to live a religious life as. i know at least one of his interrogations and i may have seen more he wasn't an innocent guy you know i'm
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sorry you know the cover story of i just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time but i'm really this religious guy just doesn't cut it. it was a very intense time many people felt certain there would be another attack against america and so that's why the intensity of trying to work as hard as you could to do your part to save american lives. contribute. was a good chance that i could be sent to afghanistan. it was a better chance of me coming. to my family. and be a third reason would be it's a career enhancing it looks good for the record that you participated in some
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global war on terror and you got the medals to go with their ribbons to go with it and it helps you get promoted to the next pay grade. and i felt i had a role to play in that we complied with the rule of law the law of war the. question it's like if i had seen a summer bin laden. told him of course i've seen him on t.v. like everyone else. that made them. we definitely have people who know things they aren't talking they're resisting every effort we've tried the normal methods so now we need something else. in afghanistan they were doing many more severe things handcuffing someone above
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their head for hours and hours. any time you restrained somebody for long periods of time particularly over their head or your organs collapsed on each other and you eventually died because of that. and so the interrogators to get mo as well as myself are thinking oh my gosh. you know you can't you can't anyway it's a it's unprofessional to do something like that. washington demanded better results from military interrogations but interrogators that one time obey felt that they were given no proper guidelines as to what was permitted to achieve those results diane beaver was put in charge of drafting a memo on enhanced interrogation techniques. everyone understood the torture wasn't allowed and obvious forms of torture such as cutting a cutting off a finger or a letter to any of those obvious things you know you couldn't do death threats and
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things like that and so what was allowed. for example if someone said oh we have a pistol we know it's not loaded and we'll point it at somebody said no that would be illegal. but if we build a special chair. and put the detainees in a special chair what does that mean. what about stress positions what about making them bend in an awkward position and they can't get up until. i see. so. there can be a gray area. when you're being asked for legal advice and i did my best to look at the sources of the law that might apply. i certainly wasn't an expert. i had called around asking for help and no one would help me and so right away you don't have to be too clever to know no one wants to touch it. and.
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we've research it now we have to put pen to paper and so my legal staff and i were it was very little sleep over those four days but we started putting the memo together and rewriting and looking at it and weigh the references and alternately we're happy with what we came up with enough for two thousand to die and be very concludes in a classified memo that the proposed interrogation methods comply with u.s. and international law ten days later secretary of defense rumsfeld authorizes eighteen of the twenty two techniques including stress positions removal of clothing and the use of detainee phobias like fear of dogs. rumsfeld
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does not authorize some of the harshest methods that included death threats and waterboarding. ok well now we have the decisive piece of paper let's go we need to you know start up interrogations again now that we have guidance and policy guidance from the very top of the department of defense. as interrogations in guantanamo were said to be conducted according to government approved guidelines the situation in iraq deteriorated and in two thousand and four images of torture and abuse in abu ghraib leaked to the public. and believable what purpose did that serve it wasn't eliciting information. i mean you know this is sadistic in this is not the product of a professional anything the usually jovial jody rumsfeld was grim as he was sworn
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in and promptly took responsibility for what he called a catastrophe he was interrupted by a heck of a risk calling for his head. is terrible to because the army is will and has been tarnished and will be tarnished for a very long time is difficult to recover from something like this. the political upheaval didn't affect the every day life. over the course of his five year in prison meant the means of eliciting information steadily increased in intensity. for them sometimes they interrogated me for more than twenty four hours. thirty. years there were. then the americans and asked me what i had done in germany. or something. in school
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you and they inquired about phone numbers and other information the stuff that only people in germany could know about so i was convinced of the americans had been in touch with the german police and. active duty i knew it was time to get out because i'd accomplished as much as i could and i wanted to have have a dog i wanted to. have my own how those kinds of things where i didn't have to worry about would i be deployed what do do i. in the summer of that same year matt diaz was deployed for a six month tour of duty in guantanamo. because of the embarrassment at abu ghraib there was more focus on going to animal as well. my mission while i was down there
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became to make sure that another abu ghraib didn't happen. my job was to star trek or allegation of abuse going back to the beginning of the camp. no matter how they characterize the conflict. we're to treat detainees or those we detain. humane. what i observed that we were still not complying with the law of war. the name diane beaver came up because she wrote the original memo to request these enhanced interrogation techniques one of the interrogators was concerned about the techniques that were authorized and so to know what sentence for reference. people that were there clearly were not the worst the worst and not everybody should have been there clearly they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time
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. and sold to the u.s. turned over to the u.s. for about eight. or nine months was one of them. you know my job is to a comport with the law make sure my commanders my chain of command complies with the law so on that professional level of course i got to care because that's my job but on a personal level i mean i'm a human being i don't i don't get joy out of seeing other human being suffer. the more i looked into it the more i realized that it doesn't matter what you advise your commanders. those concerns are going to leave the island is not going to go up the chain. so my role to advise commanders on the proper way forward basically futile it's not going to get anywhere. that's was the moment that i decided ok that was something i had to do. there's just no way to be able to do it
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through proper channels was my thought process and to do it surreptitiously. they kept interrogating me like this for years and years so i told them i'm through with you if you want to hear it again just rewind the tapes you already have and listen to it again and nothing's changed. they punished me they barely fan me. they didn't give me water. they tried everything but i didn't say anything anymore. the deepest lake in the world. usually then no more than fifteen thousand years old
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