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tv   Prime Interest  RT  November 6, 2013 1:29pm-2:01pm EST

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of these attorneys who are trying to get that information. nearing the end of my tour there. something is going to be done that's going to be done by me and has been have a short amount of time to do it. bob are all sense he wants the next i know where i get the next. inspect your bags they look at your things and you have something like that. they're going to prosecute you and i knew i made a list of names they're not going to let me off the howling with that. this so figured out a way you know how my going to get off the island. and that's when i decided i would minimize regular pieces of paper. and off to where i could put it in a card and mail it off the island. thinking was in when i went through the postal system was that whoever's handling that card would if it's a little bit thick would think that maybe it's photos or something inside of it.
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which is not uncommon and i just happened to be since it was january the next holiday coming up was found last day so when i went shopping at is changed my card it ended up in the be distributed chihuahua dog. and i wasn't sure i was going to do it i mean there's just something i stayed awake at night sometimes think and you know should i go through with the show now. i'm putting my own future on the line plus my wife's my daughter's the three individuals compared to five hundred fifty plus. i'm going to leave. they're going to be left behind in the maybe never have their day in court. retrieved the list put it in the card the office strolled down to the post office box. meanwhile spends his fourth year in guantanamo neither the
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german nor the turkish government have intervened on his behalf. i really saw nobody out there. and as prisoners. are going to get. they told me you will stay here forever you will never go home. for washington two thousand and four. had been along with her lawyer she drew public attention to the breach of law and her son's fate. as a housewife i was terrified of all the cameras. i'd rather not talk. to the actress vanessa redgrave told me don't be afraid where we are here. is an idea here i mean it's clearly inhumane how they treat the prisoners there
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for over a year robbie a corner rallied in vain for her son until in november two thousand and five she gained a powerful ally since she wasn't even a german citizen it was convenient to say we don't want to turn asked back that's what they stuck with but chancellor merkel disagreed with this policy and said i will put it into this and bring this young man home and then one day he finally arrived here on the plane. my family was waiting for me. i saw my mother first she locked me in her arms and wouldn't let go of me anymore. she also cried. i assume they were tears of joy. it was beautiful beyond words and i can't describe it i was detained and tortured
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as now i was a free man again. everything stayed the same except for some experiences that i don't share with my family because they don't want to hear about them. because i went to pakistan to fight the usa alongside the taliban in afghanistan and. ruby occur nurse believes that mertz new arab friends made him lose this way. he wouldn't tell me much but sound mind didn't brainwash him.
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first so i know full well that my mother told the media things the americans then used against me the most. they were unsubstantiated things she just said because she thought it would help bring me home sooner. i might have while i confronted him i said was it my fault if you were away and hand sorry yes it was. but as a mother i just wanted to bring him home he. told you later after i left it looks like many. officer was alerted there was an
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investigation and now is the focus of at. that point any ok this is not. the list that i sent this is relating to that list. when they interrogated me they proceeded to take major case prints of my fingers my hands my palms to compare it to the documents that they retrieved. and then they put me through a series of handwriting samples. so i could do the return address of good mo in writing it twenty different times. and was going to be a serious chain of events to. if i got court martialled going to impact me i'd be prosecuted but it's not going to impact. my wife my daughter. jury came back with combiner for six months. smack her dismissal and i mean it was
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clear to me ok that's it retirements gone this is a life off thing so no income. immediately after i was taken only locked up and separated from my family. went to the confinement facility. that's where they came with the waist band with the chains and the cuff my hands together for me and stay away from five am till lights out at ten pm trying to stay awake and just staring straight at the wall i mean the chipped paint and. the primer and different colored paint beneath it start taking on characters and my starts elucidating and and i think i started dreaming. now. stripped all the way down fall needed each other they can inspect my body they
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take their sweet time out it. gets part of the humiliating effect that they try to have on people. i mean i was there and recreate the wheel when it created a new and used what they typically use in prisons barbara testified as a witness for the government against matt diaz during his trial after receiving his list she had turned it over to the state authorities. thought it was a hoax. for months the u.s. government was facing relentless criticism over torture allegations at abu ghraib and guantanamo. bay decided it was time for damage control. in a carefully orchestrated press conference they aim to demonstrate that there was no connection between the abuses at abu ghraib and government policy and that the
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aggressive techniques at guantanamo came from the bottom up and not the white house to prove their point they released a confidential memo that carried a single signature. of course my memo was right there clearly the intent was to shift the blame well of course i thought it was my duty and it didn't bother me at all to put in writing but then you see as it went up the chain all these other senior lawyers never put a thing in writing and so you think. ok i guess they were smart i was stupid but i never thought about any sort of political ramifications or i mean i always thought about was supporting my command but that's what put me out in the press and the critics you know the criticism and books and every torture book you can think of and every you know it's it's horrible from that standpoint that i'm taking the heat for the administration. be really me start with you did you expect that your opinion would not be the one that would be relied that. in fact one of the read oh
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sure you. start my question was. i'm sorry were you surprised that your opinion became the opinion that was relied upon to shock i never received a phone call i never received an e-mail i never received anything asking me anything like are you a lunatic what were you thinking or you know great opinion or i received nothing you come across in this is being eager to have these techniques used and it says under category two using detainees phobias such as fear of dogs. now i'm trying to figure out as a lawyer how removal of clothing and using fear of dogs does not invision naked people by the way the hoods in their two naked people having dogs ticked on them that would have never happened i mean that's just not professional that indicates something but it didn't happen it did not happen man well dogs were used with naked
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people doubt that it happened if an investigator found that it happened i not disputing that i'm just saying i was not aware of it at the time when you said this . what. i what i meant was i didn't approve anything i wrote a legal opinion so whatever the commander of approved it would be applied in a manner to prevent it from being used abusively you felt you were hung out a bit. i understood at the time i was hung out with. your understand i think i understand better than i've ever understood the role you played in this and bottom line no one made you write this memo that was your own work product it would not have been appropriate for me to simply say no legal objection or no comment and so there was no pressure for you to really go there was no pressure it was generated by me and my staff thank you do you think it's an accident that the techniques that we're talking about in guantanamo bay the wound
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up migrating to iraq. please please take me very hard to take a. look. at that that would that hurt me they're looking.
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for the political. put it on your life. face i think you know. pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. back in braman mubarak or nice finds it hard to make
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a life for himself. you armor i turn us around you. it's been years i saw you on t.v. you had a long beard of us is all it is you look kind of rough yes. so how are you doing it's been a while since then. did you ever think of changing your name. just. that i do have the right to do that. i could change the name my mother and father gave me. but i don't want to do that. you don't change it you are innocent after all and for me it's not a matter of being ashamed of it but it is hard to find a job. and if someone came to me for work i'd say ok brother i'll give you some work. but when i hear the name murat kurnaz. i would be scared.
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that's obviously since you don't know me. maybe you're being watched and then my place would be watched to my customers might be annoyed and yeah that happens to me all the time. oh. go from top to in school. i feel frozen. but in some point you do have to leave on time oh hi. what are my can do for the rest of my life i'm too young to just be retired. i knew if i owned my own business i had to do something that i would be good at that. they are too far out. there. doing it.
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well dog day care business is i had a standard operating procedure that was approximately four hundred pages long they're covered everything you could think of and i thought well this is probably meant for me because this is something i understand and also be you know a structure. when i got back from prison i was being stripped of all of my credentials as qualified lawyer. so i was no longer allowed to practice in any capacity. and to that the conviction hard to find employers that will take you in. for my colleagues there came somebody to no longer associate with. i was basically persona non-grata.
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the house has been foreclosed the car has been repossessed by. the media only today requiring. i'm getting collection calls daily. and i'm doing the best i can paying the bills that i can pay its keep me above water for now and just wait i mean i know there's family out there you know where it comes the worse in a fight you know if they have a room for me that's where they come to. i wrote. and you're right. on on. because one and. everything. what happens. there for us. on this and they
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all. i knew. if i didn't do what i did to result the condition and the loss of income and savings and all of that. only be attending college right now. with the prepaid college tuition that i had saved up for that had been used not only to get through my case but to get through the aftermath of that and continue living for as long as it could. in that end it's domino effect my ex-wife got behind in her mortgage and things went downhill for her where they're losing their houses when. within a matter of months from now could also be homeless.
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the stanch will complain basically showing that the mortgage up and paid show they're trying to recover the property has basically shown if you want to get current at the bank would want is fourteen thousand two hundred seventy two dollars forty two cents. you know what school. i want to go on the money in grants and loans and what nobody else does go in that. a lot of people change saying that when he was down in guantanamo he can be classified as a terrorist for the government should hang my dead rescue said he or me wearing any
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more special memorial day parade. in the morrow day around the corner. or for the moment from a fully informed your duty is to fit but. you don't have that. because definitely a sense of shame and letting her down. that's the downside of taken actions i took for this the downside of being the raised i was in heaven the conscience i had. i am even say fear just maybe it's the fear making the wrong decision without that sort of structure to fall back on. you know it's difficult to know when.
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i know i don't know how to explain this these witch hunts that were going on in the military if a guy called you a dyke nothing was done to that person and there was no one you could say anything to and so that was it was very difficult particularly you know if you're doing better than the men. obviously an easy way to take a cheap shot at you is to question your sexual orientation and you know wear a sign that says i'm straight i'm not a homosexual and i was very lonely in the military because i was afraid of what people might say about me i let that control me for too many years of my life and just never dated a lot or perhaps being married was just not meant
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for me. so i can't explain that i'm sure there's many reasons but mr y.-o. you know you just you can't let it bother you because god has a plan for everyone and so i think. you know gay maybe that day will come for me but it hasn't come and so it bothers me but it's just something i just can't explain. i understand that i've been placed in these situations for
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a reason maybe i don't understand why perhaps it's because i have the ability to withstand what has happened i'm glad i volunteered i'm glad i was assigned to go on time no i'm sure that was part of god's plan even if. i don't always understand it and i don't always agree with the outcome. but. that's what happened and i just really have no regrets. the resigned joy and serving in the military still only job i knew the only life i knew for my entire adult life. my childhood was living in poverty. and i made a decision to join the military because otherwise i don't know what would have
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become of me. and i had a sense of why. i did everything to support the mission that. i did what they wanted me to do but that one thing that's the only thing that they disapproved of. who i'm not seeking any sympathy for them after myself never zisha but i mean that is a reality the consequence of acting on your conscience can sometimes have these types of results.
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joe and i believe in fate that god puts us to the tast. maybe guantanamo was a form of punishment. and or a way of strengthening me for the rest of my life for those cursed the systems. i would say that i didn't pass this test.
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people cannot go back to egypt will not go back due to the dark days where where we couldn't. speak up or we could not. question the leadership of our
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country great how confident are you that if we just heard the divisions we want to go backwards they don't want to go back to living under dictatorship in the first round of the egyptian revolution we saw tawi the former defense minister take over for the supreme council of armed forces we saw morsi elected and then we saw tonto we fired body morsi and put into an adversarial position afterwards in this next round we saw morsi abused his power as mubarak has abused his. what's happened is law enforcement and the national security agency has gone behind our collective backs and try to accomplish this using the courts in secret and that's truly what the issue is a broken whatever trust and violated whatever trust we may have had and that's the
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real issue and they're going to have to earn that back the hard way. the deepest lake in the world. usually then no more than fifteen thousand years old this one dates back twenty five million. spirits and buddhist gone to live you know. the pure clear water in the lake is helping scientists unravel the mysteries of the universe. i try to see by cow in its entirety. it's not that i have discovered something new here rather that i absorb everything that this place offers. the spirit.
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if you. got no opportunity. to start to construct your. bed give the want to meet gangsters in a lot of. drug dealers they don't want to blow a window the time that the kid came be we can see. you just made the boat is ours and i hope i was in the hood a.k.o. somebody with thirty round clips. but i said. i don't want to die my god is really do not want to die a young young a. exactly what happened that day i don't know but a woman i killed. years later is when i got arrested for. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about
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polygraph results. innocent people tick interest the police officers don't beat people anymore and it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is a light moment no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were often they could get what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. he'd. heard outside to the active camp at guantanamo where patients are forced that in the aftermath. our strike never turned world's attention to the place that some. of
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our time. tonight crowds in hundreds of cities across the globe have taken part in the million. against corruption greed and online privacy breach. tensions between germany and the u.k. over spying allegations grow. that of breaching international law by using its embassy as a surveillance post. reporting a deadly blast hitting the syrian capital damascus while the suicide bombing rocks a town in the south of the country this spike in terror comes as the prospect for peace talks moves away i don't know reaching for the stars the olympic torch for the winter games and. report from the launch site.


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